EVO digitizer on HD2, is this possible? - HD2 General

There was some talk about the buttons on the HD2 going bad due to much use on android ROM. Was wondering if Evo digitizer will fit/work on HD2? That would get rid of the possibility of buttons going bad.

To engineer that would be SIGNIFICANTLY harder than just buying the part for the buttons on the HD2 and installing it. Phone parts are not interchangable and if you've ever opened one up you would know the answer to your own question. The talk about button problems on the HD2 is over exaggerated. First you don't know what the people are doing that are starting those discussions - how hard are they with their phones, etc. The keys in most phones are pressure contact switches - they are designed to perform for years of normal use not used by a gorilla or someone who isn't exercisiing care.
I've owned HTC phones like the TYTN I for a number of years and used the hard keys - very similar contact switches - never a problem. The same for the 2125 which was a Windows phone with hard keys only. They were very small and I used the phone for two years every day. Keys did not wear out and they felt about the same as when I bought it.
Don't worry about it for at least two years of general use. Even when using Android you can get widgets that mimic soft keys (ie. the back/windows key).

Stim, thanks for your thoughts. I purchased a HD2 with a broken digitizer and replaced it so was wondering if the digitizer on the EVO would work since they are the same size. I did get a chance yesterday to see a pic on the internet for the EVO digitizer and the ribbon on the EVO for the capacitive buttons and digitizer does not look compatible size wise on the HD2.
I've never had buttons go out on any of my phones before. With all the talk of the buttons going bad I thought maybe it was a quality issue with the HD2.

wendellc said:
There was some talk about the buttons on the HD2 going bad due to much use on android ROM. Was wondering if Evo digitizer will fit/work on HD2? That would get rid of the possibility of buttons going bad.
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I might be completely stupid here, but what does the screen/digitizer have to do with hardware buttons?
I thought the digitizer is just the touch sensor of the screen, and that the hardware buttons have their own button pads/switches (whatever they're called).
Now, if you were talking about capacitive "hardware" buttons (such as the ones found on many Android devices, like the Nexus1), I can see how the digitizer would come into play.

while on subject of digitizer of hd2, does anyone know how to replace it?
I recently dropped my phone on the ground and even though i had a scratch resistant film over it i broke the glass digitizer, phone digitizer work 100 fine but i would like to replace it, honestly i got lucky that i did not damage the lcd screen under the digitizer, i have priced replace ment part at about 60 with tools to fix it, i would just like advise to get repairs done

Actually you aren't so lucky. There are plenty of threads on this issue. Replacing the digitizer and lcd as separate components is nearly impossible without damaging the lcd. Hate to be the bearer of bad news. Separating the glass from the LCD is nearly impossible. They are glued together and air sealed. Some have tried and failed by either destroying the lcd or making the phone inoperable. HTC either heat seals the two together or uses a special adhesive. In either case unless you are working in a class clean room (no dust) getting specs, skin or hair more than likely and you will be really ticked off to find that crap in there when you go and turn the phone on. Mike Channon's website used to post official (semi) HTC maintenance guides but the HD2 hasn't been posted. There are however a couple of Russian links that go through the process. The HTC guides were much better and they listed the steps, torx settings, oven temps etc..
I've seen a few on eBay - new but there seems to be some that need to be soldered and others that don't.
My suggestion is buy a complete unit if you have to or sell it damaged on eBay and get another phone.

i can also buy a lcd and digitizer together to eliminate the hassel of having to seperate them, and install componients like that, only downer is prices avererage 100-120 dollars, would that be a good option? i have seen videos on youtube on how to go about replacement, im quite knowledgeable about wire work and sodering but do u think im getting in over my head by tring to do this repair?

i know buying a used hd2 is about 575 and it only goes up from there, i just dont have that kind of cash right now, plus my phone is unlocked, has hard spl, running nand android flashed directly to phone, with att service fully working, something very few owners have accomplished with there hd2's..

Some searches...
Digitizer:
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Digitizer-HTC-HD2-Replacement/dp/B001V7W3M4
Housing + Display + Digitizer + Battery Package
http://www.amazon.com/FACEPLATE-TOUCHSCREEN-DIGITIZER-REPLACEMENT-HTC/dp/B004FE1FLU
I notice the hardware buttons are not included. My phone is fine except the hardware buttons were scratched up after suffering a hard fall.

I don't know. I've done complete overhauls on TYTN I and TYTN II's. They didn't require heating to remove the panels - they just snapped in. Phones were very modular no work involved except screw removal. The latest phones seem to be held together with some sort of adhesive. I remember looking at how to disassemble a FUZE. Major pain to remove the screen from the keypad - required an oven to melt the glue.
Look for a complete quide that shows step by step disassembly AND assembly. Sometimes they forget the tricks to put it back together and you get messed up.
The 150 for the housing seems a little steep. But most of the LCD/DIGITIZERS are at least 100. Be careful about some of the parts they are stripped from a "working" phone - doubt it - why would someone take a perfectly good phone and break it apart for the parts? Doesn't make sense - they can get more money for the complete unit. Sounds like they were defects or seconds - screens may have dead pixels or spots. I'd look for factory fresh new stuff personally. You can buy the keypad/keys separately on eBay for next to nothing.

stim141 said:
I don't know. I've done complete overhauls on TYTN I and TYTN II's. They didn't require heating to remove the panels - they just snapped in.
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The digitizer is the glass that you touch when operating the phone. The LCD panel is the part that shows the pictures. The digitizer covers the LCD and both are sealed together. The TYTN series of phones did not have this.
The OP was concerned about replacing the digitizer without harming the LCD. I know from experience that this is very hard to do. I managed to get them apart and replaced the digitizer on my HD2, only to damage a single line in the LCD when I re-assembled the phone. It was a complete waste of time and money.
stim141 said:
The 150 for the housing seems a little steep. But most of the LCD/DIGITIZERS are at least 100. Be careful about some of the parts they are stripped from a "working" phone - doubt it - why would someone take a perfectly good phone and break it apart for the parts? Doesn't make sense - they can get more money for the complete unit. Sounds like they were defects or seconds - screens may have dead pixels or spots. I'd look for factory fresh new stuff personally. You can buy the keypad/keys separately on eBay for next to nothing.
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Actually, the housings sold 3rd party are usually factory fresh, unless specified otherwise. HTC expects to have techs replace various parts of the phones and ordered a certain percentage of these types of parts. When the initial sell drive dies down, the excess is unloaded to 3rd parties who either offer them up on sites like eBay or catalog them for companies that repair phones.

well like i was saying would it be easyer to buy both the digitizer and lcd already together and just replace the ones in my phone?

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Cost of Screen Replacement?

Hey fellas... I think this is my first post here. Been here so long I don't even remember.
Well I have a K-JAM... I made a mistake of not buying a screen protector at the shop. It's been about 3 months now and depite very careful usage, there are quite a few scratches on the screen. I was wondering how much it would cost to replace it.
Do I have to replace the entire screen or is there some kind of sheath over it that can be replaced hence minimizing the cost?
Any inputs would be appreciated.
Thanks
Do a search on Ebay, there's a few listed there. Seems that just the touchscreen (top part, the one you probably want) is around $35, touchscreen+LCD is around $130.
I did a screen replacement on my previous phone, a SonyEricsson P800. The replacement itself was fairly easy (I replaced both touchscreen+LCD since the LCD was busted), but the touchscreen and LCD on that one were glued together forming one solid piece. Although seperate touchscreens were available for the P800 as well, there would've been no way for me to seperate it from the LCD without breaking the latter. It might be the same case for the K-Jam, forcing you to opt for the more expensive option. You'll just have to check first.
Also, have a look at the Service manual for more information, also about (dis-)assembling the K-Jam.
Goodluck!
Depending upon the depth of scratch, have you tried a repair fluid and polisher?
There is a website in the UK www.mobilefun.co.uk that sell just a solution! No pun intended. For a few pounds it might be worth a try (or dollars depending on where you buy!)
Wow... thats fantastic... I hope it works... the Repair fluid that is.
@Juicey... I cheked it up.... but like most screens, this one seems to have the touchscreen sheath glued hard to it. So i guess that's out of the question.
@BMS_Ian... has anybody around here actually had any luck with these repair fluids?

Busted Outer Glass of LCD

Well I dropped my G1 the other day and it busted the outer glass part. The LCD is fine and it still works perfect. I have looked everywhere,with no luck of finding any parts for them. So I called HTC and they told me 150-250 to replace the glass!! So I was wondering if any one know anyone that does G1 Repair or if anyone know of another phone that has more ava. parts for it with a 3.17" Screen? Any help is greatly appreciated.
Nope, I got AT&T. Was thinking of taking apart the phone and getting the glass measurements and having a custom cut piece of glass.
i believe its a special type of glass
Pretty much stuck buying the glass from HTC on this one ...sorry
PS... it is glass
iphone 3g - Dream lcd
I read that the same screen is in use on the iphone 3g, I doubt its true they probably meant type or sumthin, maybe worth a check...
on the old palm pdas you could replace just the glass if the layer under it isn't damaged, this may no longer be possible with these screens, once the bigtime flashing begins there will be lots of bricks available pretty cheap, maybe you should keep an eye out for somebody who pooched the dev bootloader install then after you convince them they killed it you could buy it maybe for less than the HTC price...
gotta say, that sucks if you were a tmob customer you'd have a few options...
bhang
Hello. Don't you think It's weird that it happened to me too today?
I've never had a broke phone since my Nokia 8210.
Well, some idiot had placed out one of those kinds of plastic bands you use to seal packages with, a black one.
It was pitch dark and I fell as the plastic ring got snared around my feet. Obviously my Jabra bt3030 got pushed against the screen and it got severely cracked.
My insurance company seems to be covering the whole phone except a small sum. This was from the phone part, but I got to see if I can get something from the health insurance as I hit my head and scratched my hand (though not likely but I can always try)
The touch seems to work most of the time, though it reacts slowly but some times It's just dead.
This really sucks.
I'm dead serious when I'm talking that there was no way that the band could be seen when walking.
http://www.allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4226&view=unread
Some info there.
aad4321 said:
yeah i dont think it is really even "glass" mabye its a type of plexiglass?
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It is glass. But you can not simply cut a piece of glass to the same dimension as the touchscreen is integrated into the glass cover. So yes you will need to get a htc or aftermarket replacement part.
The interesting thing is that the repair cost you quoted is identical to the cost of the copay if you go with the Asurion device insurance T-mo offers. So device insurance would just be a waste of money at $5 a month if you end up with broken glass.
Looks like I will just have to hold onto it until aftermarket parts come out. I busted mine by letting it slip out of my hand while talking on it....then it took a 6ft fall to eventually land face first on concrete.....I didnt even wanna pick it up cause i new it was messed up and if it wasnt I was gonna call HTC and give them props! I have a ava. upgrade from AT&T Maybe get a Iphone until this one gets fixed then sale iphone on ebay for 5x wuts its worth.
The iphone's screen seems to crack pretty nice as well.
I hope changing the glass on the G1 isn't as frustrating as on the Iphone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT7wRXeYsyg
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Not directing this to the message above, just saying.
Cracked screen replacement with compatible HW from third party --when?
I cracked the LCD of my G1 after about three weeks and have noted that neither PPCTechs nor MobileKangaroo have yet acquired a source for the replacement screen.
My understanding is that HTC currently charges what one thread in another forum (http://www.allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4226) quoted as "a minimum of $238.00" to make this repair.
I expect this repair to be offered soon by third parties for about $150, likely using a non-HTC screen product to replace the damaged one.
Has anyone heard any reports about forthcoming availability of such hardware? If so, then are there any non-HTC services to make the replacement?
yeah im looking for this too...i dropped mine and then proceeded to step on it day two with the phone.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=280303279632
WooHoo 2 items left as of this copy paste. $80, not bad price.
Shaggy
They have on Ebay now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=280303279632
2 items left, $80 cost, get them b4 they gone
Shaggy
This waht i found out
so have the same issue and this is what I found out
so from my understanding there are 2 part to the lcd the outer glass touch sensor and the inner lcd. if the the screen is just cracked and you can see the image the u have to replace both. attached are the part descriptions fromt he g1 service manual. and below is a link of a site that sells them, but for some reason they sell the touch scrren with the outer bezel making it cost more. i called htc to order just the touch sensor glass but they said the dont sell replacements, they just fix em
link
Shagman68 said:
They have on Ebay now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=280303279632
2 items left, $80 cost, get them b4 they gone
Shaggy
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I contacted the seller of the screen and he/she told me that It's only the screen. If the G1 cracks It's the digitizer glass that cracks first. Then if you are unlucky the screen cracks as well. I managed to only crack the digitizer glass. The screen beneath is totally fine. Unfortunately removing the glass from the digitizer plastic was very painful and I managed to wreck the flat cable of the digitizer so that's beyond repair. Now I tried to disassemble the whole phone but I got stuck at removing the housing. First I had problems with the Torx bits. I have some Torx bits in my sets but the lowest I got was T8. I had to buy a cellphone bits set with a lot of different types of bits. It had Torx all the way down to T4. The T5 and T6 was what I needed. There are 4 T5 to remove and one T6. I have inserted the sharp plastic between the housing and the top case and released all hooks but it seems the front and back part of the housing of the phone is dead stuck.
You have to open the whole damn phone from the back to get to the inside of the screen. Why the screen housing uses standard Philips is also beyond me. I have lots of bad experience with standard Philips screws. The heads always get bad after a while of screwing. I have yet to have a problem with Torx.

[Q] how hard is a full lcd + digitizer replacement?

Hello All,
My Leo took a terrible tumble, and the digitizer is smashed. For as bad as it looks, amazingly the digitizer and lcd still work, as do all of the cell functions. The lcd is showing lots of artifacts, making it difficult but not impossible to use the Leo.
So if I want to try and repair the Leo myself I will need to purchase a full lcd + digitizer. I know it is a pain to try and replace just the digitizer, and am almost glad in a way that if I am going to repair it I'll have to buy the full lcd + digitizer.
So it is "relatively" easy to replace the full lcd + digitizer (i.e. will I have to tear it all the way down) or is the replacement less involved?
Thanks.
Yeah you'll have to tear it apart pretty good, and I've read reports of button failures, loss of wifi signal(antenna damage), and other problems after a bad lcd/digitizer replacement.
My opinion, just ship it off to one of the repair shops and have them do it. They have all the right tools, lots of experience, and if they screw up your phone, you can send it back and have them fix it as long as they're a decent shop.
But if you're feeling adventurous, go right ahead, I don't know your skill level so maybe it's not beyond your range. Just read up ALOT before you try anything. There used to be a pretty good disassembly guide somewhere in the HD2 forums, with a video and everything. Good luck and BE CAREFUL !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613954
see that thread
Dont try to replace it by your self, you will have to tear the whole phone down, and its a pain it the ass...and yes there are some button issues when connecting them again to the motherboard, flex cables in hd2 are realy in very poor condition, they are cheap, and well they just brake inside. I had 2 faulty hd 2's and assembled 1 working from them, and had button issues, when I checked flex cables with microscope well, micro teardown's in flex cable...so to fragile...you need to be very carefull...in my opinion its better to sent it to HTC and let them repair your phone...it would not be as much differece in price...just not worth to risk...
bubbashrimp said:
Hello All,
My Leo took a terrible tumble, and the digitizer is smashed. For as bad as it looks, amazingly the digitizer and lcd still work, as do all of the cell functions. The lcd is showing lots of artifacts, making it difficult but not impossible to use the Leo.
So if I want to try and repair the Leo myself I will need to purchase a full lcd + digitizer. I know it is a pain to try and replace just the digitizer, and am almost glad in a way that if I am going to repair it I'll have to buy the full lcd + digitizer.
So it is "relatively" easy to replace the full lcd + digitizer (i.e. will I have to tear it all the way down) or is the replacement less involved?
Thanks.
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Hey, its no problem. I just did it myself. The video on the Crunchgear website is soooo systematic and detailed, I had no problem at all. I watched it 4 times, and then went through the steps easy peasy. (Instead of the oven that they mention, I just put it on my radiator for 10 mins)
I would however warn you to be verrrrry (very very very) careful while removing the so called "AP FPC" ribbon cable at the bottom. That darn thing is so flimsy...
Good luck!
skister said:
Hey, its no problem. I just did it myself. The video on the Crunchgear website is soooo systematic and detailed, I had no problem at all. I watched it 4 times, and then went through the steps easy peasy. (Instead of the oven that they mention, I just put it on my radiator for 10 mins)
I would however warn you to be verrrrry (very very very) careful while removing the so called "AP FPC" ribbon cable at the bottom. That darn thing is so flimsy...
Good luck!
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Don't understand why people always make a problem about the AP FPC.
Just let it on it's place and only open the bridge.
I have repaired like 20 of those HD2's and had never a problem with the AP FPC.
Only open the bridge and remove, that's it..
I would warn you about a more darn thing, the volume fpc. If you forget it, you will never can flash you HD2 again. Yes okay, you can change, but then you have to change the whole main flex.
If you don't have the expertise to do this kind of repairs, then I would say don't do it. It cost you more then a repaircenter if you fail.
There are too much little parts that can damage or break.
But the disassembly and assembly proces is not really hard, the most time is to remove the frame from the broken LCM module, and replace it with a new LCM module. You have to use and make lots of adhesive.

Advice: Upgrade or repair

Hey guys
Ive had my nexus 4 for a while now, bought it when it came out a few years ago now. I had managed to keep it perfectly unharmed until i unfortunately dropped it the other day which cracked the screen and seemed to have killed the touchscreen.
The touchscreen now just doesn't work at all.
So my question was, do you reckon i should buy one of those screen repair kits, or something similar and attempt to fix the phone or go for an upgrade and try my luck finding a invite ticket and buying a OnePlus One? Just wondering what your opinions are.
Im stuck now with an iPhone 3gs! Tough times indeed.
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Hey guys
Ive had my nexus 4 for a while now, bought it when it came out a few years ago now. I had managed to keep it perfectly unharmed until i unfortunately dropped it the other day which cracked the screen and seemed to have killed the touchscreen.
The touchscreen now just doesn't work at all.
So my question was, do you reckon i should buy one of those screen repair kits, or something similar and attempt to fix the phone or go for an upgrade and try my luck finding a invite ticket and buying a OnePlus One? Just wondering what your opinions are.
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Replacing the screen assembly is actually relatively easy on the Nexus 4. Note that I said screen assembly, and not the digitizer. If you don't know, the glass "screen" is called the digitizer, which is glued to the LCD behind it. Now, it could be that all that actually needs replacing is the digitizer, but this is not an easy task, requires some specialist equipment, and you're still likely to screw it up. So I highly recommend going with the screen assembly, which is both the LCD and digitizer already ready to go.
You can get a new screen assembly off eBay. There are 2 different ways. One is just the screen assembly. It's cheaper, $45, but it requires that you remove the old one from the bezel, which can be a PITA. The other way is the full front assembly, which means you're getting the screen assembly already glued in to a brand new bezel. $60, a lot less hassle, and your entire front will be new and shiny and ding/scratch free again. Obviously, this is the choice I'd recommend (I've done it myself).
Might as well get a new battery while you're at it, for $20. At this point in its life, you've likely charged your phone several hundreds of times. Li-ion batteries will lose upwards of 20% of their original capacity after ~500 "cycles".
ifixit.com has some great tear-down photos, and there's a number of guides on youtube. It might sound a bit daunting, but it's a lot easier than you might think, at least with this phone.
I can't tell you whether you should just get a new phone or not - I don't know your situation, finances, urges, etc. But I will say that for a mere $80 you will practically have a new Nexus 4. Stick around, learn how to flash custom ROMs and kernels (if you don't already), and you very much will have a new phone. Or a great back-up to your new one.
Im stuck now with an iPhone 3gs! Tough times indeed.
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Ouch.
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Replacing the screen assembly is actually relatively easy on the Nexus 4. Note that I said screen assembly, and not the digitizer. If you don't know, the glass "screen" is called the digitizer, which is glued to the LCD behind it. Now, it could be that all that actually needs replacing is the digitizer, but this is not an easy task, requires some specialist equipment, and you're still likely to screw it up. So I highly recommend going with the screen assembly, which is both the LCD and digitizer already ready to go.
You can get a new screen assembly off eBay. There are 2 different ways. One is just the screen assembly. It's cheaper, $45, but it requires that you remove the old one from the bezel, which can be a PITA. The other way is the full front assembly, which means you're getting the screen assembly already glued in to a brand new bezel. $60, a lot less hassle, and your entire front will be new and shiny and ding/scratch free again. Obviously, this is the choice I'd recommend (I've done it myself).
Might as well get a new battery while you're at it, for $20. At this point in its life, you've likely charged your phone several hundreds of times. Li-ion batteries will lose upwards of 20% of their original capacity after ~500 "cycles".
ifixit.com has some great tear-down photos, and there's a number of guides on youtube. It might sound a bit daunting, but it's a lot easier than you might think, at least with this phone.
I can't tell you whether you should just get a new phone or not - I don't know your situation, finances, urges, etc. But I will say that for a mere $80 you will practically have a new Nexus 4. Stick around, learn how to flash custom ROMs and kernels (if you don't already), and you very much will have a new phone. Or a great back-up to your new one.
Ouch.
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Thanks for the great response! I think im going to revive my Nexus 4! Or at least try to It should be fun anyway taking it all apart!
Thanks for all your help!!
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Thanks for the great response! I think im going to revive my Nexus 4! Or at least try to It should be fun anyway taking it all apart!
Thanks for all your help!!
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If you need any assistance with dis/reassembly, I'm more than happy to help. I've had my Nexus 4 apart probably a few dozen times. Most important thing is to go slowly. Don't lose screws, and don't lose the tiny rubber gasket that's part off the proximity/ambient light sensor module. If, after reassembly, your screen goes black when making a call (and it's not against your ear), take it apart again and put the rubber gasket in backwards.
I had same problem. Please not that ebay china sellers are not selling oem displays and there are huge difference in terms of quality. I myself bought original oem LG from Germany, but it costed 100$
p.s. found him http://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-LG-...284?pt=DE_Handy_PDA_Akkus&hash=item35d533c834
Stickers, numbers on chasis all looked legit.

[Q] Replace digitizer or whole screen?

Long story short, I have a LG G2 VS980W with a busted digitizer and glass. The LCD screen is fine, as there is no discoloration or dead pixels.
If I get it working, it will be used as a toy. I don't want to make a huge investment in it, hence not getting it done by someone else, but I would like it to be as easy as possible. I have no issue going into the components and swapping things within the phone itself, and I have looked up a number of dissemble replacement guides and videos and deal comfortable doing it myself.I have no issue opening the phone, but I never swapped out a digitizer or screen.
Would it be better for me to try and swap out just the digitizer, or get an already assembled screen, digitizer, and glass to replace it all at once?
I'd say you should get a new screen. I got one for pretty cheap Ebay and it's working great.
The screen is pretty easy to break/crack while removing the digitizer.
I bought a Z3 to do this but the screen was shattered (my father, who did this fixes phones/laptops)
Even for experienced people, it is a tough job.
There's a high chance of cracking the glass and ending up wasting your time and money.
I am typing this as I wait for a whole LCD + digitizer assembly for the Z3 lol
Changing this kind of digitizers takes a LOT of patience, a good heater, and the correct tools.
I personally opened like 10 phones already and always perfect, thoug I know my limits and know that I don't have what it takes. ( the phone whould end up smashing the wall for sure )
Seems like spending a little more for the set is easier and safer in terms of me damaging something with this little repair.
Just ordered a replacement LCD, digitizer, glass, and frame off E-Bay for the LG G2!
It was $55, $5 more then without the frame. Having the frame not only makes installing it easier & I don't need to worry about the cracks that are on the current one!
It's coming from China, so hopefully in about two or three weeks I'll have a brand new toy!
Thanks for the input sjk971005 and Chonwey!

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