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cracked screen - what do I need?

Just cracked my screen today. I went searching on Ebay and saw LCD screens and a digitizer. What parts do I need? either or both?
Phone still works, just can't read anything on the screen. It lights up but its all messed up.
I'm in the US, anyone have a phone for parts?

If you think that you can do it yourself, you will have to order a new LCD component and - just to be on the save side - a digitizer as well. Your best source might be eBay. Other than that, the Hermes really dropped in price, so, if you want to stick with a Hermes, try to get you a new one on eBay and keep your broken one for parts.

NO!!!!!!! You just need the LCD. Make sure it has the digitizer ALREADY on it. Save some $$ and some stuffing around with a possible failure.
In Oz I can get 1 for less than $100. You should be able to get them cheaper depending where you are in the world.
When you get the LCD/digitizer combo then use the Hermes HTC Service manual to pull apart your Hermes and put back together. You'll also need a size 6 torque key, a smll flatblade screwdriver and a small philips head screwdriver.
Take the steps 1 at a time and if you don't understand something then reread until you do.
When you put back together watch out for the camera focus and the battery access latch. If you don't line up the camera focus switch with the swich on the back cover you will have problems and if you put the battery latch on the wrong way you're not gonna be able to get the battery cover off easily.
Cheers...

Thanks for the advice. I'mgoing to try to do this myself and save a few bucks. I checked local repair shops and they want $120 to repair.
I haven't seen any LCD's that mention they have the digitizer with it. Is there a way to tell? Otherwise, I'll see what I can find.

ultramag69 said:
NO!!!!!!! You just need the LCD. Make sure it has the digitizer ALREADY on it. ...
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LOL,
So, he needs the digitizer!

Yes Junner2003, but you DON'T buy it separately... That is a MAJOR pain in the neck. Its almost impossible to attach properly.
The LCD should come with the digitizer attached. Ask the seller if it is. If they say "no" then go elsewhere. There's no point in saving a few bucks on an LCD that may not be made to work properly.

Thanks for that tip. I found one with the digitizer so I'm crossing my fingers.

How to change digitizer

a few days ago my touch screen stop responding.The problem is not software.I try everything new rom old rom, new,original rom, HSPL everything that I find on internet.And I think the problem is in the Digitizer.
Can you find my some manual to tutorial how to change the digitizer ?

And I want to know how. Maybe we have luck ..

I find in youtube how to change digitizer on the iphone i think it will be the same but i am not sure.

thats bad news but honestly, how can you relate this with winmo ROM development?

I have changed it on my old diamond, but in the process I broke the lcd screen as it is so thin. So its best to get the digitizer and lcd as one unit, it makes life alot easier.
Its not so easy as there alot of tiny screws and ribbon cables etc.. its best to take pictures of the phone as you disassemble so you know what goes where when you put it back together.
I have just found a video on how to disassemble the phone: http://vimeo.com/6892707

prepare to spend a few good hours (3-4) to do a good job and not damage your hardware!
I strongly suggest you buy a factory pre-assembled Digitizer & LCD Screen, the extra cost is worth every single bit considering the layers between the parts are all glue! the moment you seperate the layers they get grit stuck on them and it goes down hill from there.
If you want to DIY repair it, I just put up this thread: Touch HD (Blackstone) Screen & touch repair, pics and tips inside!
It tells you most things the service manual does not tell you to do when you change the screen but keep the front plastic housing. without the housing the service manual is fairly comprehensive apart from not telling you to put back the camera >_>
DIY job is good to save money, just consider that the work is not easy (detaching wifi from mobo & power pcb come to mind) but can be done!

thank you very much.

EVO digitizer on HD2, is this possible?

There was some talk about the buttons on the HD2 going bad due to much use on android ROM. Was wondering if Evo digitizer will fit/work on HD2? That would get rid of the possibility of buttons going bad.

To engineer that would be SIGNIFICANTLY harder than just buying the part for the buttons on the HD2 and installing it. Phone parts are not interchangable and if you've ever opened one up you would know the answer to your own question. The talk about button problems on the HD2 is over exaggerated. First you don't know what the people are doing that are starting those discussions - how hard are they with their phones, etc. The keys in most phones are pressure contact switches - they are designed to perform for years of normal use not used by a gorilla or someone who isn't exercisiing care.
I've owned HTC phones like the TYTN I for a number of years and used the hard keys - very similar contact switches - never a problem. The same for the 2125 which was a Windows phone with hard keys only. They were very small and I used the phone for two years every day. Keys did not wear out and they felt about the same as when I bought it.
Don't worry about it for at least two years of general use. Even when using Android you can get widgets that mimic soft keys (ie. the back/windows key).

Stim, thanks for your thoughts. I purchased a HD2 with a broken digitizer and replaced it so was wondering if the digitizer on the EVO would work since they are the same size. I did get a chance yesterday to see a pic on the internet for the EVO digitizer and the ribbon on the EVO for the capacitive buttons and digitizer does not look compatible size wise on the HD2.
I've never had buttons go out on any of my phones before. With all the talk of the buttons going bad I thought maybe it was a quality issue with the HD2.

wendellc said:
There was some talk about the buttons on the HD2 going bad due to much use on android ROM. Was wondering if Evo digitizer will fit/work on HD2? That would get rid of the possibility of buttons going bad.
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I might be completely stupid here, but what does the screen/digitizer have to do with hardware buttons?
I thought the digitizer is just the touch sensor of the screen, and that the hardware buttons have their own button pads/switches (whatever they're called).
Now, if you were talking about capacitive "hardware" buttons (such as the ones found on many Android devices, like the Nexus1), I can see how the digitizer would come into play.

while on subject of digitizer of hd2, does anyone know how to replace it?
I recently dropped my phone on the ground and even though i had a scratch resistant film over it i broke the glass digitizer, phone digitizer work 100 fine but i would like to replace it, honestly i got lucky that i did not damage the lcd screen under the digitizer, i have priced replace ment part at about 60 with tools to fix it, i would just like advise to get repairs done

Actually you aren't so lucky. There are plenty of threads on this issue. Replacing the digitizer and lcd as separate components is nearly impossible without damaging the lcd. Hate to be the bearer of bad news. Separating the glass from the LCD is nearly impossible. They are glued together and air sealed. Some have tried and failed by either destroying the lcd or making the phone inoperable. HTC either heat seals the two together or uses a special adhesive. In either case unless you are working in a class clean room (no dust) getting specs, skin or hair more than likely and you will be really ticked off to find that crap in there when you go and turn the phone on. Mike Channon's website used to post official (semi) HTC maintenance guides but the HD2 hasn't been posted. There are however a couple of Russian links that go through the process. The HTC guides were much better and they listed the steps, torx settings, oven temps etc..
I've seen a few on eBay - new but there seems to be some that need to be soldered and others that don't.
My suggestion is buy a complete unit if you have to or sell it damaged on eBay and get another phone.

i can also buy a lcd and digitizer together to eliminate the hassel of having to seperate them, and install componients like that, only downer is prices avererage 100-120 dollars, would that be a good option? i have seen videos on youtube on how to go about replacement, im quite knowledgeable about wire work and sodering but do u think im getting in over my head by tring to do this repair?

i know buying a used hd2 is about 575 and it only goes up from there, i just dont have that kind of cash right now, plus my phone is unlocked, has hard spl, running nand android flashed directly to phone, with att service fully working, something very few owners have accomplished with there hd2's..

Some searches...
Digitizer:
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Digitizer-HTC-HD2-Replacement/dp/B001V7W3M4
Housing + Display + Digitizer + Battery Package
http://www.amazon.com/FACEPLATE-TOUCHSCREEN-DIGITIZER-REPLACEMENT-HTC/dp/B004FE1FLU
I notice the hardware buttons are not included. My phone is fine except the hardware buttons were scratched up after suffering a hard fall.

I don't know. I've done complete overhauls on TYTN I and TYTN II's. They didn't require heating to remove the panels - they just snapped in. Phones were very modular no work involved except screw removal. The latest phones seem to be held together with some sort of adhesive. I remember looking at how to disassemble a FUZE. Major pain to remove the screen from the keypad - required an oven to melt the glue.
Look for a complete quide that shows step by step disassembly AND assembly. Sometimes they forget the tricks to put it back together and you get messed up.
The 150 for the housing seems a little steep. But most of the LCD/DIGITIZERS are at least 100. Be careful about some of the parts they are stripped from a "working" phone - doubt it - why would someone take a perfectly good phone and break it apart for the parts? Doesn't make sense - they can get more money for the complete unit. Sounds like they were defects or seconds - screens may have dead pixels or spots. I'd look for factory fresh new stuff personally. You can buy the keypad/keys separately on eBay for next to nothing.

stim141 said:
I don't know. I've done complete overhauls on TYTN I and TYTN II's. They didn't require heating to remove the panels - they just snapped in.
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The digitizer is the glass that you touch when operating the phone. The LCD panel is the part that shows the pictures. The digitizer covers the LCD and both are sealed together. The TYTN series of phones did not have this.
The OP was concerned about replacing the digitizer without harming the LCD. I know from experience that this is very hard to do. I managed to get them apart and replaced the digitizer on my HD2, only to damage a single line in the LCD when I re-assembled the phone. It was a complete waste of time and money.
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The 150 for the housing seems a little steep. But most of the LCD/DIGITIZERS are at least 100. Be careful about some of the parts they are stripped from a "working" phone - doubt it - why would someone take a perfectly good phone and break it apart for the parts? Doesn't make sense - they can get more money for the complete unit. Sounds like they were defects or seconds - screens may have dead pixels or spots. I'd look for factory fresh new stuff personally. You can buy the keypad/keys separately on eBay for next to nothing.
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Actually, the housings sold 3rd party are usually factory fresh, unless specified otherwise. HTC expects to have techs replace various parts of the phones and ordered a certain percentage of these types of parts. When the initial sell drive dies down, the excess is unloaded to 3rd parties who either offer them up on sites like eBay or catalog them for companies that repair phones.

well like i was saying would it be easyer to buy both the digitizer and lcd already together and just replace the ones in my phone?

HD2 Digitizer+Screen

Ok i can get a hd2 for cheap £70 with pressure damage to the screen so there is a blue circle, i was wondering how hard it is to replace the screen and the digitzer? i can get them for about £55 i think but dont want to risk it if its really hard to do, i read that removing the digitizer is hard but the whole thing i cant find any info about?

I just replaced my digitizer and yes it is not easy... Most of it requires patience and right tools. I had to take mine apart twice(put keyboard in upside down lol), second time only took 30 minutes total even with readjustment of digitizer. That part is very important or the buttons feel weird and you will find gaps in top/ bottom. The htc guide on youtube is excellent, I used that, you can skip steps like disconnecting speaker cable and vibrator as you will notice if you do replace the digitizer by itself . Oh and its less expensive

I missed that you want to replace both. That is much easier. Go for it. Also search harder and look on youtube

Is there much that can go wrong replacing both? ive never opened a phone ive opened up my laptop and built pc's before though, just dont wanna pay £70 for a phone then £55+ on the screen to screw it up

Just be sure to use plastic tools, be careful, and follow guides found on these forums or on youtube. The screen is already broken so much less to worry about. I would recommend using a guitar pick (.5mm or about) when getting the main assembly out of the housing. hair dryer is a must for easy separation of the lcm module

http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked
ive watched this video, so does that mean that all i have to do is take the battery out, unscrew those 4 screws then remove the housing, thenn skip all the removing individual components and instead just remove the LCM module from the chasis?

I found it very easy to replace the digitizer, and it was my first time. But like stated before Patience is VERY IMPORTANT and also be extremely careful.

cj91legss said:
I found it very easy to replace the digitizer, and it was my first time. But like stated before Patience is VERY IMPORTANT and also be extremely careful.
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Do not do it under flying helicopter or behind running air jet plane..

I just am worried ill end up spending £70 on a phone £60 on a screen then have a phone with two broken screens lol

I could just buy the LCD screen but its even harder to seperate the digitizer and lcd screen apparently right?

Hyuukai said:
I could just buy the LCD screen but its even harder to seperate the digitizer and lcd screen apparently right?
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Need some help, dead digitizer or what??

Hey guys, I need some opinions about my problem, check my video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeApacv5_gE&feature=youtu.be
I think it's digitizer fault but before buy new one I need to be at least 90% sure its digitizer, tried to load many roms, pds fix...

Anyone? Somebody must know

Well honestly it is hard to say without actually having your phone here. But you can almost be sure of this. It is most likely either the digitizer or the multi pin socket that the digitizer plugs into. I am working on one right now that went into a swimming pool and the socket is bad. It does the exact same thing as yours with any digitizer that I try. I'm currently looking for a way to remove the corrosion from the inside of that sucker. Gotta find some kind of spray. I can't seem to get it good enough with emery cloth or scraping... On the other hand I've replaced the digitizer and fixed this same issue on my sons Atrix.
In case you decide that you want to try to replace it here are 2 on Ebay that have the frame built in. Link1 Link2 So far I've bought 3 that were assembled this way and it is so much easier than buying a ditizer alone. No messing with double sided tape or worrying about backlight bleed.
Hope you can get some relief.

Dude, I've got the same in the same places! It have to be factory defect... there is too much digitizer problems...

Yes its very good smartphone but too much bad digitizers disqualify it, so JdgM3NT4L sometimes when I squeeze frame bottom of the screen works fine but only for few moments, so there are three options: need to replace adhesive sticker, replace digitizer and pin socket. Damn even if I want sell Atrix for parts I am not sure if all of them are fine

I used to get that a lot, phantom touches that make the phone useless until I turn the screen off and back on.
Cannot say for sure but when I stopped using alcohol wipes to clean the screen and reduced the amount of static it was exposed to (keeping it polyester pant pockets seemed to make it worse believe it or not!), it seemed to pretty much stop.. now I've gone months without the issue.

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Yes its very good smartphone but too much bad digitizers disqualify it, so JdgM3NT4L sometimes when I squeeze frame bottom of the screen works fine but only for few moments, so there are three options: need to replace adhesive sticker, replace digitizer and pin socket. Damn even if I want sell Atrix for parts I am not sure if all of them are fine
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Well, the socket is on the motherboard, so no replacing that... For 30 bucks, I would try the digitizer. I should have explained the part about water damage. That's one of the few ways that the socket would have been damaged. That's kind of what I was eluding to when I mentioned not having your phone here. If I had it here I would know the history and whether or not it had water damage, etc. My apologies for not being more clear about that. I just don't want you to buy the digitizer and then be upset because I told you to leap right in. In my humble opinion. A new one will probably take care of the problem. 90% if I had to call it.
I wish you the best of luck. And if you have any problems installing it shoot me a pm and I'll be glad to Skype or email to help you get through it.

Thanks, my Atrix never saw water. I just dissasembly phone for every single part and cleaned all socket with alcohol. Put back together but no result. I'll try replace digitizer with frame from ebay, it's risky but hope it will solve the problem.

Its the digitizer I'm 99 percent sure I had an identical problem. Dead zones and the phantom touches. Replaced the digitizer and problem solved. I believe the digitzer design is bad for our phone and is prone to this kind of failure
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