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should I go Froyo???? with new memory

hi...
long story short...
my 8gb class 6 card was stolen.. have a 16gb class 6 coming at end of week. i was running DC2.1 last custom ROM. was also using apps2sd and it was working great!
question?
should I go ahead and get Froyo?
will its version of app2sd be as good as the 2.1 version? because with the efficient apps2sd on 2.1.. i am still pushing the limits of the memory.

who the hell steals sd cards?

Is there even a stable release of Froyo yet?

YoungSinema said:
Is there even a stable release of Froyo yet?
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Stable, yes. Final, no.
Look in the dev forum for CM6 RC1.
@OP:
Yea, get Froyo.

I came from French Toast, and I thought that was fast. Froyo, no lie is lighting quick. The Apps to SD innate seem much better at handling it too.. but that's just what I think. Plus you can see what apps are on your SD card on the phone. I recommend it. Even though it's not final. everything I use the phone for works on froyo, including camera.

I'd definitely recommend using FroYo... it's ridiculously fast, gets good battery life, and you get access to new apps like Voice Actions.

I have a 16g class 6 and i am running the current build of cm6 for the hero. I haven't had a single issue. its fast thank you devs
so yea get froyo.

thanks everyone... i guess I will give Froyo a try..
does it fix the phone lag... staring calls?

Haven't had any problems. Another bonus is that Froyo takes about half the space of 2.1 with Sense.

Is there a froyo with sense? I need it for HTC sync for use with outlook 2010. Also, why do people make up such crazy names for ROMS? I spend too much time trying to figure out what it is, and who made it, what version it is, do all the features work, what radio am I supposed to use. Isn't there a way to simplify this?

the froyo rom here is cyanogenmod6 its named after the cyanogen and is the sixth version of the multi platform android rom he and his team have put out. I do agree that some of the rom names are downright ridiculous and the word art junk I've seen for some of them just seems really lame and immature (think high school class projects with crap word art thrown in)
NO there is no sense 2.2 rom and there may or may not ever be one. Also before it gets asked in this thread, NO CM6 DOES NOT HAVE FLASH!
why are you syncing your phone to outlook? both outlook and the phone should sync to your calandar and email provider, your doing it kinda backwards. outlook is a client, and the phone is a client. why sync one client to another instead of syncing both clients directly to the service provider?
O/T but outlook is a terrible email client, bloated as hell and poorly written. I wouldn't recommend anyone use it unless they have a need to talk to an exchange server.
general_jimbo said:
Is there a froyo with sense? I need it for HTC sync for use with outlook 2010. Also, why do people make up such crazy names for ROMS? I spend too much time trying to figure out what it is, and who made it, what version it is, do all the features work, what radio am I supposed to use. Isn't there a way to simplify this?
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LanceLet said:
I came from French Toast, and I thought that was fast. Froyo, no lie is lighting quick. The Apps to SD innate seem much better at handling it too.. but that's just what I think. Plus you can see what apps are on your SD card on the phone. I recommend it. Even though it's not final. everything I use the phone for works on froyo, including camera.
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Everything works yes but it is NOT lightning quick, even with the same 730mhz. 2.1 was ALOT faster
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I'd definitely recommend using FroYo... it's ridiculously fast, gets good battery life, and you get access to new apps like Voice Actions.
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Nope along with performance my battery life is alot worse
Don't get me wrong it is VERY stable for what it is (the only issue being the LEDs being messed up which there's a fix for) but 2.1 was alot faster for me. My GBA emulator is really laggy and useless with 2.2

iviyth0s said:
Everything works yes but it is NOT lightning quick, even with the same 730mhz. 2.1 was ALOT faster
Nope along with performance my battery life is alot worse
Don't get me wrong it is VERY stable for what it is (the only issue being the LEDs being messed up which there's a fix for) but 2.1 was alot faster for me. My GBA emulator is really laggy and useless with 2.2
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Pics or GTFO.

tejasrichard said:
Pics or GTFO.
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The cm6 build is good but Ive gone back to fresh. The a2sd isnt as good imo as darks however you can integrate a2sd into cm6 and bypass the froyo version. Battery life was pretty random for me. I caibrated my battery and one use I got about 7 hours of streaming slacker over wifi and using a bluetooth headset to listen. Recharged and the next go around I gout 4 1/2 hours. personally 7 hours of that kind of use is damn good for me but 4 1/2 is a drastic drop. I didnt like the fact that it was ran at 691, I think my phone runs better running around 600. Above that and it can get a bit jumpy (oc widget and setcpu wouldnt maintain a frequency and the battery fix was too involved for my liking). Also I started getting a ton of FC's in launcherpro and the browser.
That being said, I made a nandroid so I can go back to it if I like but for now Im sticking with fresh's rom. The only feature I would like is the new google voice search but I rarely use voice functions anyways.
Edit: Scratch that, I loaded the updated nightly build and alot of my issues seem to be gone and OC Widget is holding at 576 so Im calibrating the battery and gonna test again.
I cannot believe I havent fried this phone after the amount of flashing and crap Ive done on it.

tejasrichard said:
Pics or GTFO.
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of what

ipfreelytech said:
O/T but outlook is a terrible email client, bloated as hell and poorly written. I wouldn't recommend anyone use it unless they have a need to talk to an exchange server.
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That. =P
I'm also in the process of calibrating the battery as my CM6 battery performance compared to Fresh 2.3.3 was pretty abysmal, but if it's NOT lightning quick, you're doing it wrong.
(CM6 is f-f-ffAST! Using the decad3nce #7 8/18 uncapped kernel currently, but even the included kernel was perfection)

hi all...
i tried to flash this blue rom...
it did not work.
I lost my SD card. got a replacement 16gb class6.
I also have an old 1gb class2.
i have been rooted since I got the phone in Dec and have flashed many ROMs with no issues. I was last on DC 2.1 custom Rom.
it just gets stuck in "HTC" splash screen. wait 15-30 mins. never comes out. here is what I have done...
each time i wipe the data and Dalvik.
flash the 2.2 ROM.
both from the 1gb and the 16gb.
just stuck in the black screen "htc"
what do I need to do?

[Q] Jumping over to the HD2

So I'm thinking about ditching my MyTouch Slide [Espresso] and jumping over to the HD2, since my friend did that a few months ago, and he's been experiencing nothing but good things, but I still have a few questions to ask the general Android HD2 community, since apparently the HD2 is more supported than the Nexus One.
[Sorry, TONS of questions here]
How does the battery normally hold up? I know it depends on the rom [Sense drains battery like a *****, I know from personal experience], but I'm asking about generalities here. On light usage, does your phone last for 12 hours? 10?
What is still the most generally buggy feature on the HD2, regardless of ROM? Wifi? Bluetooth? Camera? In other words, what usually doesn't work and/or is the most buggy?
Do most market apps work for the HD2? Because I know certain apps are optimized for certain phones, and I'm wondering what apps usually work/don't work.
Is the touch screen REALLY that receptive? I hear that it's one of the best on any Android-running phone.
and finally...
What is the maximum STABLE overclock you can push onto the HD2?
Sorry for the tons and tons of questions. I just want to make sure that I'm doing the right thing before dropping $250 on a phone, lol.

Ok gonna do my best here. With wifi off I easily get 10+ with medium usage. Wifi, bluetooth, all work fine, still have data freezes using ppp but they getting to be few and far between. Still have touch screen freezes occasionally but you just wait a sec and all is well again. Touch screen us very responsive.. Every app I have tried has installed with no problems. My hd2 oc's stable to 1.113 ghz which is plenty for me, some will even go to 1.28 oc, just depends in the phone. Things are getting better every week of development. So in conclusion (never used a mt slide) if you can handle a strictly touch screen phone. And like to try new builds go for it.. I'm sure you won't be disappointed
swyped from my HD2 Android

squish099 said:
Ok gonna do my best here. With wifi off I easily get 10+ with medium usage. Wifi, bluetooth, all work fine, still have data freezes using ppp but they getting to be few and far between. Still have touch screen freezes occasionally but you just wait a sec and all is well again. Touch screen us very responsive.. Every app I have tried has installed with no problems. My hd2 oc's stable to 1.113 ghz which is plenty for me, some will even go to 1.28 oc, just depends in the phone. Things are getting better every week of development. So in conclusion (never used a mt slide) if you can handle a strictly touch screen phone. And like to try new builds go for it.. I'm sure you won't be disappointed
swyped from my HD2 Android
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What rom are you running?

Android: cmy's tmous blue topia. Winmo.. I don't remember, its a full rom with cht2.0...
swyped from my HD2 Android

GoCkillaz said:
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[Sorry, TONS of questions here]
How does the battery normally hold up? I know it depends on the rom [Sense drains battery like a *****, I know from personal experience], but I'm asking about generalities here. On light usage, does your phone last for 12 hours? 10?
What is still the most generally buggy feature on the HD2, regardless of ROM? Wifi? Bluetooth? Camera? In other words, what usually doesn't work and/or is the most buggy?
Do most market apps work for the HD2? Because I know certain apps are optimized for certain phones, and I'm wondering what apps usually work/don't work.
Is the touch screen REALLY that receptive? I hear that it's one of the best on any Android-running phone.
and finally...
What is the maximum STABLE overclock you can push onto the HD2?
Sorry for the tons and tons of questions. I just want to make sure that I'm doing the right thing before dropping $250 on a phone, lol.
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Battery life for me is about 28-30 hours with average use (about an hour of calls, couple dozen emails, and an hour or so of music, 3G connected all the time, and about an hour browsing). Calibration is the key to getting good battery life. Even with heavy usage (3 hours calls, 2 hours music, Wifi connected four hours and heavy browsing and some gaming) My battery still lasts over 12 hours.
Most buggy... depends really on ROM. The build I'm using now (see sig) is [knock on wood] pretty flawless. I've not had an error in the three days I've been using it so far, but not everyone is as lucky as me. Your milage WILL vary. Some roms work perfect for some and are horrendous for others.
Again, I've not found an app that doesn't work yet. HD2 is a top of the line spec phone, so if something doesn't work on it, the app itself is usually at fault.
The touch screen is AMAZING, easily the best I've used and compares well to the Desire HD's screen.
Overclocking is pointless. End of story. You have a 1Ghz processor in the HD2, unless you're planning to take over the world why would you need anything more than that to play Angry Birds?

Reno_79 said:
Battery life for me is about 28-30 hours with average use (about an hour of calls, couple dozen emails, and an hour or so of music, 3G connected all the time, and about an hour browsing). Calibration is the key to getting good battery life. Even with heavy usage (3 hours calls, 2 hours music, Wifi connected four hours and heavy browsing and some gaming) My battery still lasts over 12 hours.
Most buggy... depends really on ROM. The build I'm using now (see sig) is [knock on wood] pretty flawless. I've not had an error in the three days I've been using it so far, but not everyone is as lucky as me. Your milage WILL vary. Some roms work perfect for some and are horrendous for others.
Again, I've not found an app that doesn't work yet. HD2 is a top of the line spec phone, so if something doesn't work on it, the app itself is usually at fault.
The touch screen is AMAZING, easily the best I've used and compares well to the Desire HD's screen.
Overclocking is pointless. End of story. You have a 1Ghz processor in the HD2, unless you're planning to take over the world why would you need anything more than that to play Angry Birds?
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Ok, this was REALLY helpful. What Quadrant score do you usually get?
Sent from a phone that's better than yo Momma's. bbq.

GoCkillaz said:
Ok, this was REALLY helpful. What Quadrant score do you usually get?
Sent from a phone that's better than yo Momma's. bbq.
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Quadrant scores are useless too. They really just measure how modified your kernel is to fit the test - it doesn't really translate to real life usage at all.
I have tried pretty much every build there is and I have settled on the CM6 builds being the most stable and smoothest. I started using Shubcraft(RMNET) in August and since then I tried out all kinds of Sense builds. After a day or two with the sense builds I always got tired of the lag that there is in sense, or other problems like the camera not working in some sense builds, or the PPP connection being so unstable.
I am now using Michyprima's daily CM6 build. It is very stable, I get through a day(8am-10pm) everyday even w/ pretty heavy use. My only complaint is that there are still TS freezes (even though I read they are supposed to be fixed), the PPP data connection freezes too frequently, and sometimes the screen takes a little while to wake up.
The phone is quite usable for day to day use, but it isn't free of bugs like your MT Slide is.

anap40 said:
Quadrant scores are useless too. They really just measure how modified your kernel is to fit the test - it doesn't really translate to real life usage at all.
I have tried pretty much every build there is and I have settled on the CM6 builds being the most stable and smoothest. I started using Shubcraft(RMNET) in August and since then I tried out all kinds of Sense builds. After a day or two with the sense builds I always got tired of the lag that there is in sense, or other problems like the camera not working in some sense builds, or the PPP connection being so unstable.
I am now using Michyprima's daily CM6 build. It is very stable, I get through a day(8am-10pm) everyday even w/ pretty heavy use. My only complaint is that there are still TS freezes (even though I read they are supposed to be fixed), the PPP data connection freezes too frequently, and sometimes the screen takes a little while to wake up.
The phone is quite usable for day to day use, but it isn't free of bugs like your MT Slide is.
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Free of bugs? Haha how funny. The Froyo Sense build I'm running has no keyboard lights, a few buttons don't work, and the browser force closes if java is enabled.
Sent from a phone that's better than yo Momma's. bbq.

lol at the above. And just to reiterate, any and all benchmark scores are ultimately pointless. It's how it actually performs which only you can judge, not be told by a bunch of numbers which can be synthetically bumped up and still produce a competely unstable heap of poo.

GoCkillaz said:
Free of bugs? Haha how funny. The Froyo Sense build I'm running has no keyboard lights, a few buttons don't work, and the browser force closes if java is enabled.
Sent from a phone that's better than yo Momma's. bbq.
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I'm just letting you know that I have used my girlfriends mt slide, and it is less buggy than Android on the HD2. If you are complaining about the bugs in that phone then android on the HD2 isn't for you.

Reno_79 said:
Overclocking is pointless. End of story. You have a 1Ghz processor in the HD2, unless you're planning to take over the world why would you need anything more than that to play Angry Birds?
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for this statement you have been awarded the "i dont know **** about technology" prize !
grats !
u can well notice the improvement in all programs that push the phone to its limits ie : gameloft games , pocket legends , browser with flash , homescreen smoothness(only with sense)
also , u know whats the difference between ati hd4870 and 4890 ? nothing , but the clockrate , try telling any1 who works with technology clockrate is pointless .. oh wait u already did

souljaboy said:
for this statement you have been awarded the "i dont know **** about technology" prize !
grats !
u can well notice the improvement in all programs that push the phone to its limits ie : gameloft games , pocket legends , browser with flash , homescreen smoothness(only with sense)
also , u know whats the difference between ati hd4870 and 4890 ? nothing , but the clockrate , try telling any1 who works with technology clockrate is pointless .. oh wait u already did
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And you've been awarded the "I don't know jack about phones" prize too. I know full well that overclocking a processor increases cycles per second and overall throughput but that means absolutely nothing unless all you care about is benchmarks. I prefer to have a stable phone that doesn't reboot on me ever, and plays EVERYTHING ON THE MARKET perfectly, thanks. Go troll elsewhere. And maybe you should listen to the kernel devs who say overclocking is NOT necessary.

CM7 vs Stock Froyo

Hi guys,
It's been a week since I installed CM7.0.3. I think I can write down pros and cons of both roms. By the way I tried dk and joker but didn't find them stable.
Here it goes;
Speed:
CM7 hands down. Butter smooth.
Stock rom isn't too bad but lags 0.2 seconds when opening stuff which is a tad annoying. Also laggy with angry birds. (i don't play games, just tried it for testing)
Stability:
CM7 is good but not as stable as stock froyo. Froyo keeps runing and running. CM7 has crashed 3 times in a week.
Battery life:
I am getting 30 hours with CM7. 55 hours with stock froyo. (same cpu speed)
Common Apps:
This is where stock rom wins as well. CM7 Gmaps and Gtalk fonts really suck.
It may not be a big deal for some users but for me it is a big problem as I use these apps at least 5 times a day.
With stock rom skype is unusable. CM7 wins here if you use hands free option.
Radio: (reception)
I can't tell the difference to be fair. wifi, gps, cell. they all feel the same. Stock gps is definitely more battery friendly.
Customization:
CM7 wins again. Stock froyo is not customizable unless you install shed loads of apps on it.
Conclusion:
CM7 is like an aston martin. If you get one you'll have a big grin on your face. On the other hand you'll spend a lot of time waiting for a recovery van on the side of a motorway.
Then stock froyo must be a good old toyota corolla. It always gets you there. Not in style though...

Haha, good comparison.
I would say battery life is pretty similar, not any significant gains over stock rom though I will tone down the cpu frequency further in standby as I have noticed CM7 is better in this aspect.
I would agree with the majority of your comparison though, nice balanced review.

I get good battery life from CM7, because I use SetCPU and smartly set profiles. (low battery=low cpu clock, screen off=low-ish cpu clock...)

nejc121 said:
I get good battery life from CM7, because I use SetCPU and smartly set profiles. (low battery=low cpu clock, screen off=low-ish cpu clock...)
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I experienced some problems with setcpu. On low cpu clock setting, when I receive a call it takes 3 rings for the phone to realize it is receiving a call. Which makes me miss lots of calls.

That's a drawback of setting the min speed too low. Which is why I keep it at 245.
BTW, it is not recommended to use SetCPU anymore, because it may clash and cause issues with the default CM Settings. Keeping the governor at Smartass under CM Settings, is equivalent to having a profile in SetCPU for Screen Off.

i like CM7 very much, but with FroYo my battery (with wifi or data on all the time, and juicedeffender) was last for 2 days... now, with wifi (not all day) its like 1 day max.... very disappointing... :\

Nice comparison, I mostly agree to this. I haven't noticed any crashes so far (been using for ~a week now) and my sd card loads faster on reboot.
I really like using CM7, and there's no going back to stock froyo.

I'm running CM7 nightly for quite some time now and I can say it works even better.
Running it overclocked at all times, lasts a day or two depending on how much I stress the phone.
As for camera I flashed the MIUI camera which is a lot better then stock CM7 one, image quality and speed of the app is marvelous.
Just like you said, it's highly customizable; I wouldn't go back to the stock one anytime soon
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

You can say what you want, but for me, even stock rom is faster than CM7, especially in settings menu (scrolling), but of course applications is a different thing (if you have enough patience to find one)..

CM7 looks dull and takes the punch out of user experience.
Battery life is not a issue if it is more than a day.
Ultimately what sells is user experience and hence hTC Sense wins.

you can't compare stock froyo with aosp gingerbread

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You can say what you want, but for me, even stock rom is faster than CM7, especially in settings menu (scrolling), but of course applications is a different thing (if you have enough patience to find one)..
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Sorry, can't agree with that at all.
You just need to run a benchmark app to see cm7 is way faster than stock even without over clocking.
Not sure what you mean by the second part of your post.

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I'm running CM7 nightly for quite some time now and I can say it works even better.
Running it overclocked at all times, lasts a day or two depending on how much I stress the phone.
As for camera I flashed the MIUI camera which is a lot better then stock CM7 one, image quality and speed of the app is marvelous.
Just like you said, it's highly customizable; I wouldn't go back to the stock one anytime soon
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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Hey could you send me the link to the camera update???? Thanks!!

I am planning of using the CM 7.0.3 Stable version. Does anyone know how the camera quality is in this version???

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I am planning of using the CM 7.0.3 Stable version. Does anyone know how the camera quality is in this version???
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In a word;
Crap
I find CM nightly builds more stable than the 7.0.3

Daily use NAND Android

Hello.
As the title says, I want a android rom that is stable, fast and holds the battery pretty good =) I work 8 hours every day, and most of them is filled with spotify, so battery is needed. Tested different roms for a while now, but non have been what i wanted
Anyone who knows any good roms i can test? =)
Thanks
HabueN

HabueN said:
Hello.
As the title says, I want a android rom that is stable, fast and holds the battery pretty good =) I work 8 hours every day, and most of them is filled with spotify, so battery is needed. Tested different roms for a while now, but non have been what i wanted
Anyone who knows any good roms i can test? =)
Thanks
HabueN
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I would recommend hyperdroid cm7 5.3.0 and nexushd2

HabueN said:
Hello.
As the title says, I want a android rom that is stable, fast and holds the battery pretty good =) I work 8 hours every day, and most of them is filled with spotify, so battery is needed. Tested different roms for a while now, but non have been what i wanted
Anyone who knows any good roms i can test? =)
Thanks
HabueN
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Almost all non GB-Sense ROMs are 100% functional and good for daily use. GB Sense ROMs are also supposedly good for daily use but I personally find them quite glitchy and slow (try them anyway, you may be able to tolerate this). I use Typhoon CM7 as it's fast, efficient, and regularly updated with the latest features.

TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 Nightly v3.7.3[2.3.7][A2SD][tytung r12.4v3]
I have been using these for my daily since around 2.4.something and love it, quick updates, fast as anything performance with pretty decent battery. I have everything turned on and am on one WiFi connection or another pretty much all day. Use it moderately for browsing, texting, phone, and gps and it lasts pretty much all day for me. Give it a shot, I bet you will be happy.
Oh yeah, I am sure you would be able to tell from the thread but there is no Sense or anything, pretty standard CM7 interface with ADWLauncher

I've tried many different ROMs over the last few weeks and finally arrived with TyphooN as well.
What I found more important is that from my experience, tytung's 12.3 (and newer) kernels are the only ones that have no or close to no audio quality issues, so I'd definitely opt for a ROM with tytung's kernel.

Check my signature. Has everything you asked for on this thread

I´m also on TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 for a long time now.
Very stable and fast, good battery live time

I am using Hd2 Ndt ginger ginger rom , its very fast and stable with go launcher
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013852
After first boot
All task killed free ram 240 - 260 mb
And quadrant benchmark score 1265
Antutu benchmark score 2561
And very good battery life
I can play 3d games .
I like it may you try

seanyuan62 said:
Check my signature. Has everything you asked for on this thread
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Hard not to see your signature. It's a full-screen advertisement.

Hyperdroid is tha bomb.

Thanks for answers
Will see what i land on finally.. I can see i have a few more to test =))

I have used TyphooN_CM7 and Desire HD Ace, these two roms on my hd2.
one is original android and one is with sense...
I think you can try these two roms,

Any flavor of Hyperdroid is tight. My best recommendation is try a few different roms out and seeing if you like one. If using it intensively is a big issue for you I would suggest that you don't install system heavy apps, i.e. Live wallpapers, crazy widgets that use system resources like weather or GPS. Keeping GPS and WIFI off until you need to access those services and changing the display brightness down a tad. There are plenty of threads on these issues and keep in mind that Android itself is a huge battery abuser, but it's so worth it. I use the above mentioned apps and still get a full day out of my phone as long as I don't spend hours at a time accessing them. Keeping a charger on hand at work also helps as well.

I´m using AmericanAndroid nand since first release and it´s very fast, good battery life 2mA in standby.

Should I get a 540 as festival phone?

Hello, I I am going to Roskilde festival in Denmark next week, and I need a copy a cheap phone, as my Galaxy Nexus is too expensive to bring :/
Would the 540 be a good choice? How is the screen, the battery time and the speed of the phone? What version of android can it be upgraded to (any stable custom Roms?). My biggest concern is the resistive screen :/ How about flash in browser? Is multi touch supported?
The other phone I am looking at is Vodafone 828

Flash? --> No.
Multi-touch?--> No.
Custom Rom?--> 2.1 , 2.2 , 2.3 , 4.0
Battery life?--> Better then the nexus for sure (even better then my sgs2)
This phone is good for calls and sms. If you are coming from a nexus browsing will be a big headache due to the shear difference in web page loading times.

It should be fine as a cheap replacement, battery life is good, phone itself is pretty solid. Resistive screen is fine unless you'll mess with custom roms as these doesn't have screen working calibration which makes operating on the device without stylus pretty difficult. Performance on on the stock 2.1 is rather decent, browsing experience is rather poor on it, gaming and system responsiveness are fine. The situation does change when you're using custom roms ( especially those with .32 and .35 kernels ) but you'll lose screen calibration. You won't notice much difference in browsing between your nexus and gt540 if you'll use .35 kernel and OC. There are two almost perfect custom roms ( with .32 and .35 kernels ) In other words gt540 may not be perfect but it will be definitely better than vodafone 858, unless you want phone only for texting and calling.

shadovraven said:
You won't notice much difference in browsing between your nexus and gt540 if you'll use .35 kernel and OC.
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You will definitely !
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if your on custom rom you'll never get perfect stabilty. from time to time it will lag a bit but for a few days a custom GT540 might be ok.
If you really choose it you will have to take your time to get it from 1.6/2.1 to e.g 2.3 with adequate kernel

Hell yeh if i ever make a vid comparing browsing speeds you will tell!

-Grift- said:
Hell yeh if i ever make a vid comparing browsing speeds you will tell!
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I had old nexus in my mind, that's why.
andreas__ said:
You will definitely !
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if your on custom rom you'll never get perfect stabilty. from time to time it will lag a bit but for a few days a custom GT540 might be ok.
If you really choose it you will have to take your time to get it from 1.6/2.1 to e.g 2.3 with adequate kernel
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I tested almost all customs roms, some of them for few months or more and i didn't experienced any lags and problems ( miroslav lewa os, sdsl v2.1 ). If you can't take care of your rom even stock rom will lag and pose problems.

sdsl 2.1 is good

shadovraven said:
If you can't take care of your rom even stock rom will lag and pose problems.
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don't you think its normal to install 10-20 apps ?

u have to re-size system partition and have a swap partition the phone will work flawlessly i get a charge of 2 days using complete WiFi

andreas__ said:
don't you think its normal to install 10-20 apps ?
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Of course it's, im having like 30 apps installed on my phone now ( SDSL v2.1 with .3 5 kernel ) and everything works fine. The problem's that most of the people doesn't even bother to resize system partition size or do a full wipe. Installed apps are not a problem, the ones that are running in the background all the time, taking cpu time, memory and killing battery ( load of various widgets and other useless stuff, launchers that are heavy on memory / cpu and such ) 90 % of people problem with certain custom roms would be solved by just reading properly, that's the truth. Unless you can explain how i managed to get SDSL v2.1 to work with .35 kernel ( and other roms as well ) while others can't. That's enough of an offtopic, i'm sure OP does know his answer now.

i know we dont need to resize system partition but i had partitioned it for miroslavs ics and kept it like that since i had 256mb swap

How is the screen to use on this phone? I have almost no nails, so I am afraid of the resitive screen :/

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How is the screen to use on this phone? I have almost no nails, so I am afraid of the resitive screen :/
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2.3 roms + new display are ok
Sent from my GT540 using xda premium

If you're afraid of the screen, you can always get some cheap stylus or make it yourself ( from a pen ) and it will be fine.

Sebz4n said:
How is the screen to use on this phone? I have almost no nails, so I am afraid of the resitive screen :/
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I think screen responsiveness it's a lot better on miroslav ICS than on previous roms. On GB I had to push very hard on the screen or it won't catch the touch.