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[POLL] What ROM are you using?

Just a basic poll to get some idea of what ROMs seem to be the popular ones here. I also feel that this poll can help those wanting to dive into the world of ROMs in choosing the right direction.
Aside from voting on what ROM you're currently using, why don't you tell us about it...
Most importantly are what kind of battery life you're getting for how much you use.
What is the performance like?
What you feel this ROM offers that others don't.
How can this ROM be better?
Thanks guys!

So, um...where's the poll? I'm using CM6 myself.
It's the first ROM I've used on my device. It's very quick as compared to the stock 1.47 build (of course). Seeing FPS of 52 on my HW002 Novatek. Confirmed that I have 5-pt multitouch (though already knew from the ADB command before I flashed). Linpack consistently at 39/40 (not overclocked).
Battery life so far seems pretty good, on par with stock, though I've been on a couple of phone calls this morning which is atypical for me (I don't really use my phone as a phone I mostly text/web/e-mail etc. - I *might* use 150min a month of calling).
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Ah ha! There it is.
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1236 in Quadrant (again, no overclock, no special performance tweaking of any kind)

Fresh 1.0.1.
Getting about 20-22 hours with moderate use (2-3 hours voice calls).
Super fast! Getting about 52FPS with Netarchy's kernel (no overclocking) with my 003 Nova.
Aside from the badass FRESH boot up screen? I like how dedicated Flipz is to his work and how bugs gets squashed right away. It's stable and everything works.
Could use Froyo and I would like to use launcher Pro rather than Sense with it.

Using DC v3.2.3
With the stock kernel and SetCPU profiles set up I was getting pretty close to 20 hours out of my battery with moderate use.
The performance is great. Very quick with few lags. Couldn't ask for much more.
The one main tool that this ROM offers that others don't is DConfig. Having the ability to easily set up profiles to optimize the phones performance and battery is a valuable tool.
Can't wait for DC Froyo!

So for the ones I like the best are Cyanogen,Fresh, and EVO-OLOGY ROM. Using CyanogenMod 6 right now seems a little buggy, but so far i like it the best.

You need to add Yay for Juggs Rom up there. I am using his FrEak RoM, with ADW launcher and a mixture of Google apps and sense things. Very solid and zero issues.
I been following the 2.2 roms, betting waiting on V10, but I have the files for CM6. I may slap that one on for the weekend after I backup my current Rom.

Baked SNacks 9.7 with launcher pro +
battery life is GREAT ! 19 + hours per charge ( with OC )
everything works simple great !
i do have the CM nightly in nano to do some testing

Baked snacks 9.7 with netarchy kernel 3.7.3c I think. this is smoother than damage and battery life is great!

Really? In development? How about general or Q&A?
Buuuutttt: I'm using Fresh 1.0.1. WiMax is keeping me from switching to CM6.

CM6 but...
I'm using CM6 myself and being an Android n00b in general I still love it so much more than the stock experience. Coming from webOS I was excited at the idea of using custom roms and it hasn't let me down.
Currently I'm noticing the incredible performance increase of CM6 just in terms of smoothness and app loading times. Battery life seems fine to me (unplugged from charger at 830am and will need to charge around 430pm. My only complaints would be the lack of some quality email/calendar/feed widgets that come pre-loaded. Also I've flashed an updated version of the rom twice now and each time the cameras work great upon first use but then next time I try to use they "cannot connect."
WiMax is no big deal b/c I have Wi-Fi at my office and apartment. Would be nice to have in downtown Houston but can wait.
Would be willing to try DamageControl but wasn't sure if it's running of Froyo and has any speed issues. We'll see...

I'm using Fresh Evo 1.0.1 with netarchy kernel 3.7.3c. Waiting with baited breath for CM6 official release.

tayhimself said:
WiMax is no big deal b/c I have Wi-Fi at my office and apartment. Would be nice to have in downtown Houston but can...
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Hows your 4g, I only get more than 1 bar in the heights.

Snacks 9.6
Easily 40+ hours per charge, with 2 hours of surfing, 30 minutes of voice, 30 minutes of GPS.
I'm waiting for BuglessPete v0.5 or CM6 RC release.

Cyanogen to date...
Cyanogen - snappy little rom with great battery life and nightly builds! This combined with Rom Manager Premium, I have the option to locate, download, backup, flash and do a/b comparisons in minutes, with disaster recovery for the nOOb I am. DC comes in second but no technical "reports", just "seat-o-the-pants" kinda usage/feel...

I am running Cyanogen till DC 3.5 is released.
Sprint is 2 weeks out from Froyo on EVO.

I just rooted last night, started with the rooted stock ROM, then flashed Fresh, then DC, then CM6. Now I'm back on Fresh as I want to start simple before I jump away from all my HTC apps.

chandlerw88 said:
Hows your 4g, I only get more than 1 bar in the heights.
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I'll sometimes get 2 bars at my apartment off Wash ave. and then I also get 2 down at the Flying Saucer.

tayhimself said:
I'll sometimes get 2 bars at my apartment off Wash ave. and then I also get 2 down at the Flying Saucer.
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tayhimself said:
I'll sometimes get 2 bars at my apartment off Wash ave. and then I also get 2 down at the Flying Saucer.
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Nice, beer goddesses and 4g speed
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1.47 Rooted! Beat that! W00t!!
Seriously though, I'm using this one because I just got a Airave (50% off) and I could not connect to it using CM6, Fresh, or BakedSnack. I couldn't connect using any rom to be exact.
On another thread here, there was talk about changing the EVRC and roaming settings to get better call quality. Beware! Screwing with these will leave you with no connection to the Airave.
Back to the topic. I plan on trying out the latest CM6 tonight, but the stock root is working well for me.

I'm currently using Cyanogen's Nightly Builds of CM6 for the EVO. It's not perfect but I've gotten it customized to where it's everyday-kind-of-usable to me. I imagine as they move forward the it gets optimized, my gripes will go away (like the mising market apps, the slower than stock speeds, etc). I'm okay with it for now.
Before that, I had just begun using Fresh 1.0.1. Very stable and feature-rich... no problems with it at all. Memory management could have been better. This has been the only ROM where I've seen my memory dip below 70MB.
And before Fresh, I'd been using DamageControl 3.2.3. This was for me, the ROM to beat. Best battery life, snappy responsive system, great memory management, great support, nice features. I did find a couple of bugs (with Handcent) and it sure could have used one or two os Fresh's features (like the 270 rotation) but it was still the ROM to beat.

Tell us your (real) reasons staying on a Froyo ROM or moving to a GB ROM.

Ok people, like the tittle says, state your reasons.This is for current ROMs we have available at the moment and also lets put in perspective that we will never get a official GB source for our Vibrants. I feel this will help any newb in deciding what he/she would like to flash on his/her Vibrant and also those of us who will not succumb to ads telling you your phone is old as **** and you NEED to buy a new one or else you will never be cool again and will live the rest of your life as a looser with hairy palms.
Tell us what ROM you're on. Try to be professional when stating your reasons. Give us your opinion on other ROMs you were on or tried but DO NOT flame the ROM cuz we all know Devs work really hard to give us (for FREE) these masterpieces for us to enjoy or else we could be stuck on stock and there ain't nothing worse than that. NO FLAMING other people's opinion also, that's why they are called opinions (and just like assholes) we all have one. Fire away..

Staying with Froyo 2.2.1. Reason
- GPS
- Battery life
- Overall smoothness and ZERO bugs
- Netflix now on Froyo
- Great FFC support in most apps
- Dont use skype video chat much (thats actually the only one app I miss a little bit being on froyo)

The absolute ONLY reason to use froyo is for gps support. That said, the gps on this phone is crap anyway so there is really no reason for froyo. Gingerbread has been faster, smoother, and more stable for me.

I'm one of those that will keep using my Vibrant as long as possible. I'm currently on Bionix 1.3.1. Battery and GPS (the two biggest issues regarding the Vibrant) work great for me. I tried CM7 on my other Vibrant and I got to tell you its pretty smooth, responsive and stable but it did not beat my other Vibrant with Bionix on a overnight battery standby test. I made sure for both of them to have running just the necessary system apps for the test. CM7 GPS does work it seems but it took forever to lock inside my house compared to my Bionix with the s.gps.2 installed (5 sec.). I did not do a Navigation test on both so I can't call this a complete test. I will stay on Bionix because I need a ROM that is as close to 100% in stability and functionality and I feels it (Bionix) gives it to me.

On 2.3:
CRT Animation
Speed
Battery life is improving (almost on par with Froyo)
Overglow effect
Look
Customization (on MIUI or CM7)

duboi97 said:
On 2.3:
Overglow effect
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The one thing that I'm jealous about 2.3.

My reasons for moving to CM7:
- Much smoother than even some of the nicer FY roms I used
- Little Details (battery graph, customization options, etc)
My reasons for moving back to Froyo from CM7:
- Battery life
- GPS
- Battery life
- Seriously: battery life (even with Bali's kernel, I'd have to charge at least 2x a day)
CM7 is ready for primetime. However, the Vibrant is not ready for CM7. The devs don't have source and don't (and IMHO, won't ever) have GPS drivers.

Speed and overall smoothness of whole phone an battery is ok an sometime excellent 12hrs is good enough really customization of themes
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@Mindaika try Neo redux 9 much better battery an GPS idk cuz I never used it since got phone
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I moved to cm7 cause of the mindblowing performance difference... just no lag or instability and i have desktop class browsing when i overclock thats even faster than the pentium 1.6ghz laptop i used to use o.o
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cm7, reasons (in no order):
i like having the newest version of android (fragmentation? i was running 2.3.5 like the day it came out), gps works (i ran it before gps worked, though because it is worth it) and gets to ~3m accuracy when the best i got on froyo was ~6m, crt effect, overall better performance, i've ran cm7 on other devices and it's always been good to me and provides a consistent experience.
basically, with the gps being fixed, the oc/uv built into the stock kernel (providing pretty good battery life even at 1.3Ghz), and it being extremely easy to flash i don't see why anyone would still be running froyo.

2.2 (Bionix NextGen V2)
Stability
Better GPS
Better Battery
No Random reboots
Swype (it does not work in Simply Honey but does work in CWM)
Faster with OC than 2.3.4
Better 3D rendering
Even with all this, It is very likely that I will move back to 2.3.x again if the GPS reboot issues are fixed. For those unknowing, The GPS works in 2.3.x but if you turn the radio off, it will not work again until you reboot the phone. This is the biggest issue for me.

Just flashed Biffmod 1.3 (GB 2.3.5) last Thursday and was actually very surprised at how well it runs.
-Battery life is actually better on this ROM than what it was on Bionix 1.3.1
-GPS is on par with what I had on froyo
-Runs smoother than a baby's bottom
-Web browsing is more responsive
All-in-all, I'm happy using this as my DD. Everything works as well, if not better than on bionix. But we all know, YMMV.

I tried MIUI and Simply Honey 5.0
Both were awesome and looked awesome.
However since then I have switched back to Trigger 3.2
The biggest reason for me is battery life.
Even though some of the stuff (battery graph, new market, animations) aren't as good as the GB roms it has great battery life.
I'll probably give it a couple months and try the GB roms again..
T-mobile screwed us over so we'll probably never get the source code for GB.
If the GB leak came out the GB Roms would take leaps over the FROYO roms.

i havent used froyo as my main rom for a few months the reason i changed to cm7: much more smoother for me
i prefer the newest
gps is not a must for me
great themes
good battery life

Miui 2.3.5 GB
Gingerbread performance
Stable & Smooth
Battery "Decent"
UI and Theme Customization
Weekly updates that improve overall user experience
and Honestly it's just a gorgeous UI.

rakeshchn said:
Staying with Froyo 2.2.1. Reason
- GPS
- Battery life
- Overall smoothness and ZERO bugs
- Netflix now on Froyo
- Great FFC support in most apps
- Dont use skype video chat much (thats actually the only one app I miss a little bit being on froyo)
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So it seems alot of you prefered moving up to a GB ROM. I tried CM7 and MIUI looks to iPhonish to me which is not bad but I dont want launcher icons on my screens (beside what is on my dock) which also brings the issue of it not having an app drawer and thats what I liked from Android when I moved from the Iphone. So besides those two which is the most stable GB ROM out there so I could install it on my second Vibrant?
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2 words.
TV out.
Other than that, gb is fantastic.
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Raistline said:
Even with all this, It is very likely that I will move back to 2.3.x again if the GPS reboot issues are fixed. For those unknowing, The GPS works in 2.3.x but if you turn the radio off, it will not work again until you reboot the phone. This is the biggest issue for me.
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i'm using cm7 with the newer gpsd file (i don't know if it's now included in cm7 or not, but it's pretty easy to find) and i just turned gps off then back on, then turned airplane mode on then back off and then opened gps status without rebooting and locked 10/11 sats with a 6m error and i'm inside.

Samsung's Gingerbread vs CyanogenMod7

While I was on CM7 I kept asking myself whether the time was right to switch to "stock" gingerbread in order to get rid of the few CM7 nasties (such as battery life, FM radio, lack of BLN support,...) without giving up too many of the goodies (performance, performance, performance). I hoped there was some insight into objective comparisons, i.e. people who had tested both and could give some "neutral" feedback. Well, I couldn't find it.
So I now find myself on samsung's gingerbread for the first time and these are my findings*:
Performance**:
CM7
The best I've tried so far. No doubt.
Number of installed apps does not affect performance.
JVR
Acceptable, but after getting used to CM7 there is noticeable lag (lapse between gesture and screen reaction) and hiccups when scrolling down menus. Tested with rfs and ext4 ("lagfix"). All in all, performance is noticeably worse than CM7.
Battery***:
CM7
Improves greatly with GB bootloaders [BL] (custom kernel has to support it) but it only affects standby drain (lowers to about 1~3 %/hr).
Usage drain is ridiculous (20~50 %/hr depending on type of use and connectivity).
Typical average battery life has been about 10~24hrs.
JVR
Standby drain is about the same as with CM7 & GB BL (about 1~3 %/hr).
Usage drain is about 10~30% (general feeling about half as draining).
Typical average battery life is being about 15~36hrs.
Android system process shoots CPU usage up to 99.9% while charging (reboot fixes this). Not sure if this is actually a bug.
Miscellaneous:
CM7
No BLN support (as of custom kernels on Aug 15th). No blinking led notification support.
No FM radio (as of #80)
Voodoo sound/color support is kernel dependent
Minor BT car system (A2DP) bugs. Not reproducible with BT dongle.
Horrible Wifi reception and timeouts with WPA2 + hidden SSID (might be custom kernels).
No TV-out support.
No 720p recording (?)
JVR
BLN support is kernel dependent
Voodoo sound/color support is kernel dependent
I might have overseen a bug or been inaccurate at some point. Please feel free to fill the voids or correct any imprecisions.
*I was on CM7 #80 with Zach's Neo kernel v16 r2 (GB BL!). Have also tried Glitch's.
I am now on JVR Simplicity v0.31 (Semaphore kernel 1.5).
**No OC/UV for the sake of fairness of this test (improves performance about 30~50%).
***Battery findings are merely subjective appreciations I have made on a daily usage basis. No scientific mA/h tests or benchmarks have been made. I apologize for that...
This thread should serve for everyone who has tried both ROMs to give their feedback and for those weighing to make the switch to ask questions and have more info.
Cheers!

Nice job on writing this up.
For me CM7 on the SGS is out of the question, because battery and BLN are two of my most importing things that I need daily.
I even went as far as getting the Samsung Armani Battery 1650Mah battery (same physical size as the stock battery) to give me the extra battery life I need.
As for CM7, I may throw that on my Atrix down the road. Some people that have used the beta of it say they think battery life is better than stock. Time will tell, but battery life is an absolute must on my phones which sadly rules CM7 out for me at least on the SGS...

Problems I have with CM7:
* Battery drain (obviously), but since #86 I usually get through the day without recharging.
* Random reboots
* sometimes suddenly loses reception (comes back after some time)
* broken 2g/3g-toggle (don't know if it's fixed yet, didn't dare to try)
Problems I have with stock-ROMs:
* often Launcher-redraws
* no USB-tethering on Linux
Problems I have with all GB ROMs:
* GPS-performance is bad. It's usable after applying hardware fix, but when comparing with Froyo ROMs (e.g. Darky 9.5), they always win.

You can get led notifications with Neo's kernel, v17r5 currently. No need for BLN app. :]
Otherwise, CM7 is just smoking the stock ROM, specially if many apps are installed. I can compare the phone to AOSP Desire experience, before I exchanged it for SGS a month ago.
Btw, Green battery saver app helps alot, it turns off wifi/mobile for specified intervals, so less drain when idle and you don't need to manually toggle it. Same **** as iPhone does.

I have messed both with CM7 #80 and JVR. Now I am back to stock JVR because CM7:
- does not support 720p recording
- I had a lot of issues with calling, the other person couldn't hear me. This seems to happen randomly to many users and makes it for me unusable.

There's HD recording @ 30fps on 2 recent nightlies I tried.
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I was wondering, in CM7 does flash performance is still as low as in stock roms ? Most of the video websites I visit work awfull on JVR.

alinescoo said:
I was wondering, in CM7 does flash performance is still as low as in stock roms ? Most of the video websites I visit work awfull on JVR.
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In my experience there is a great improvement in flash performance in cm7 (and decline in samsung's gb). Especially in flash video playback. Beware though not to expect anything similar to computer-like performance in this field.

You want a fast, smooth UI and not expect a drawback in battery use? There has got to be a sacrificial lamb in there. The fact that idle drain is already comparable with stock roms means there is no more "battery drain" issue in CM7.

I left CM7 with fugumod kernel overnight, I lost 2% battery in 9 hours.
I left Simplicity overnight. I lost 10% in 9 hours.
Just my findings off of one test

Nice Job
Thank you for your interesting info

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In my experience there is a great improvement in flash performance in cm7 (and decline in samsung's gb). Especially in flash video playback. Beware though not to expect anything similar to computer-like performance in this field.
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I was wondering, in CM7 does flash performance is still as low as in stock roms ? Most of the video websites I visit work awfull on JVR.
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for me, flash is crazy good since jvq and flash update. 720p fluid in the browser. silky smooth scrolling, gpu helps a lot.

Quite accurate but:
-wifi for me is horrible on stock and cm7...compared the galaxy s my old iphone 3gs was much better.
-battery when phone is on use is same on cm7 and stock... 'till you use data connection. When using 2g/3g on cm7, battery goes down like a hell.
This because samsung driver are closed source i suppose.
Imho Gingebread is not a great update respect froyo.

Just switched back to stock rom from cm7 nightly. I really liked cm's features but after a while the battery drain was too much.
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I was just about to post a thread like this! The last samsung rom i tried, jvq, was for lack of a better word, **** compared to CM7. I wondered if JVR was better but its probably not much better than jvq. For me, i think i can live with the 'drawbacks' of CM7 as it just makes the phone as good as it should be - fast as hell.
Interestingly enough, as you can see from my sig im posting from a galaxy tab. The stock sammy firmware on this is much better on this than most stock sgs roms.
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I was just about to post a thread like this! The last samsung rom i tried, jvq, was for lack of a better word, **** compared to CM7. I wondered if JVR was better but its probably not much better than jvq. For me, i think i can live with the 'drawbacks' of CM7 as it just makes the phone as good as it should be - fast as hell.
Interestingly enough, as you can see from my sig im posting from a galaxy tab. The stock sammy firmware on this is much better on this than most stock sgs roms.
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I have to say that I was the same (and I still like to switch roms) but JVR is like from a different dev team at Samsung. I am talking about stock JVR. Give it a try and you will see that it is the perfect stock rom.
My issue with CM7 are the colours. Both on stock and Voodoo. There is something about it that I can't get right even after following a few guides here.
Having said that, CM7 is a very good, features rich, fast rom. I don't think any stock rom would get to that speed due to the filesystem difference.
K.

It's interesting that nobody mentions the problem during calls. Is this an isolated problem, happening to only a few of us ?

I am very very impatient when it comes to responsiveness so I'm on CM7 for a while. Hoever, most likely, I will go back to stock because of:
-problems during calls (other person can't hear me - hold-unhold call sometimes fixes this, sometimes not)
- headset controlls not working (can't answer calls, can't control music); very annoying, this was introduced when a fix for FM radio was tried. FM radio still does not work but it managed to screw up the headset controls
- no 720p recording - well, you CAN record but the frames skip a lot and audio is not synced
- when using 3g/h battery goes down REALLY fast and phone heats up a LOT
- last but not least devs are concentrating on SGS2, so any fixes will probably take a long while to be implemented (if there's gonna be any fixes); the development has slowed a lot (still, my thank to the devs for their hard work)

The grass is always greener on the other side, is it? I love CM for its pure android experience, its speed and the control. But yes, there are bugs and that's to be expected if you have to work with closed source blob's and pretty weird hardware (search for atinm's post in the CM7 thread). I'm willing to live with the remaining bugs because the advantages of CM7 are just to big. But my next phone is going to be a Nexus one for sure. That's the only way I'm guaranteed a real android phone without any of the OEM crap.

Jvr odexed with a few fixes is best for me. Camera, colours, no radio and battery drain just not good enough on cm7 for my needs.
Stock Samsung jvr is better than my cm7 2.2.4 nexus one.
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short [REVIEW] CM 7.1 RC1 vs Stock 2.3.4 regarding performance and battery life

So, I'm toying with the idea of flashing CM7.1 RC1 to my i9020t
currently it's on stock 2.3.4 + netarchy stable, it runs very smooth like silk after some manual optimization.
most games runs really nice, but there are still a few that are laggy, so i was planning to check out CM7.1 RC1 to see if it runs any better.
However, there were old reports of issues with the CM7 and missing features, etc, etc, or some other that reported CM7 being even slower than 2.3.4 stock, so i'm not so sure if i want to spend all that time flashing stuff around
I only flash stable version of ROMs as i have limited free time, and can't really afford to be jumping back and forth between versions, as the little mods and tweaks, and customization takes several hours most of the time, and it's very time consuming, yet not something i can afford in a busy day.
It just happens today is a nice day to flash a ROM
anyways... here goes nothing...
starting with a Nandroid Backup before I mess around with CM7.1

the stability is not at the same level. With CM7, my phone would reboot on it's own every other day. Car home would lock the screen rotation, requiring a reboot. some of the features are nice, like the per permission restricting of apps. The debug code being enabled will cause (for me anyways) a heavier battery drain. I prefer stock with root.
I'm retesting CM7 because of the failure of 2.3.6 to fix a major bug and in the process introduce more issues. I'll probably role back to 2.3.4.
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i finally got time to flash it today, so i'll keep an eye on it for the next few days, to see how stable or unstable it is
CM 7.1 RC1 + netarchy 1.3.7 cfs @ 1300
and also i'll have to keep an eye on the battery drain
the stock 2.3.4 + netarchy was very good

REVIEW conclussion
so far only 1 non-random reboot, it was actually caused by an app, that was force closed.
however performance wise, as i feared, CM7.1 RC1 is quite a bit slower than stock 2.3.4
Games laggs way more in CM7.1 RC1 than on stock, even with all the CM7.1 eye candies and customization disabled / enabled it was the same result.
Also battery life was extremely bad!, as in you can actually see the % numbers drop in front of your eyes, as you run Apps / Games on the phone even with the charger plugged in!
on stock the numbers will go up, not down, when the charger is plugged.
yes, this pretty much means, i'll be going back to stock sometimes later today when i get some time to re-flash the whole thing again.
I'll be looking forward to try CM7.1 final / stable when and if all the CM team have settle up with their daily life to go back to normal and make the project go forward again, until then, i'm not planning to waste more time with CM7.1

Don't give up until you've run it with the Trinity TUV10 kernel.

hmm... it's worth a shot
heck might as well, lets see how the CM7.1 RC1 + Trinity plays together.
according to what i read already on the topic, seems like it'll be a disaster for battery life
but if performance is good and fluid, i think i can over look that.

Trinity Kernel conclussion
well CM7.1 RC1 + Trinity TUV10 certainly makes a much better combo than Netarchy
using Trinity, even the heaviest of games runs smooth without jitters (very important for racing games, or shooting games)
the most impressive thing is that it's doing all that at stock clock speed of 1 Ghz while Netarchy at 1.3 Ghz was struggling.
Unfortunately on the Battery side of things, it's still just as power hungry as any other custom ROMs, although not as bad as Netarchy.
well... i guess i'll be hanging on to CM7 RC1 for a while longer, at least things are playable now

Poor battery life is a common complain after flashing a new ROM (and wiping 9 months of battery stats). Give it a few days to rebuild the battery history, and see if it's more to your liking.

I would try one of the newer nigthlies they are quite better than rc1
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the nightlies are better than RC1, that is for sure. a lot more work has been done since RC1. also, i recommend the latest Trinity TEUV kernel--> http://goo.gl/roLqV its at 880mhz, feels like 1.2ghz, its gpu is overclocked to 240mhz, and its undervolted. so its very fast and its great on your battery life. and it goes well with the latest cm

If you like the almost stock stable and fast try GPA 17 by peteralfonso.
Not much in the customization department but a great rom
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Kraenesk said:
If you like the almost stock stable and fast try GPA 17 by peteralfonso.
Not much in the customization department but a great rom
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Yes sir! The best there is.
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Kraenesk said:
If you like the almost stock stable and fast try GPA 17 by peteralfonso.
Not much in the customization department but a great rom
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Link please?

Question, if I install a CM7 nightlies ROM or a different ROM and wanna install a kernel like Trinity and then do a nandroid backup after that I'd be able to do it even if I installed a ROM besides CM7 like NSCollab or SuperCM7 right? And how would the order go, wipe > flash rom > flash kernel > do nandroid backup before restarting the phone? Thanks.

In my experience the RC version of. M7 is much less buggier than nightlies. I'd get random reboots, apps freaking out and BA battery life. Been on cm7 RC for 3 days now with not a single reboot. I'm also using the stock kernel that comes with it.
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And I do feel like CM7 RC1 on my Nexus S is slower than CM7 on my MT4G for whatever reason...I honestly just don't get that and friggin why...it's the friggin S and a Hummingbird in there, it can't be that much worse if it is then the 2nd gen 1ghz Snapdragon in the MT4G. My MT4G was blazing fast and had nice battery life in regards to an Android phone...but ugh CM7 on my S is kinda laggy sometimes and battery life is a disaster. I need a reccomendation for a really fast vanilla ROM to flash. Always loved CM and it's never disappointed me until now. I just don't get it, I mean I thought the battery life on my Nexus One was terrible but it's draining even faster on my S.

marik1234 said:
And I do feel like CM7 RC1 on my Nexus S is slower than CM7 on my MT4G for whatever reason...I honestly just don't get that and friggin why...it's the friggin S and a Hummingbird in there, it can't be that much worse if it is then the 2nd gen 1ghz Snapdragon in the MT4G. My MT4G was blazing fast and had nice battery life in regards to an Android phone...but ugh CM7 on my S is kinda laggy sometimes and battery life is a disaster. I need a reccomendation for a really fast vanilla ROM to flash. Always loved CM and it's never disappointed me until now. I just don't get it, I mean I thought the battery life on my Nexus One was terrible but it's draining even faster on my S.
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RC1 is super outdated..... try the latest nightly.
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Kraenesk said:
If you like the almost stock stable and fast try GPA 17 by peteralfonso.
Not much in the customization department but a great rom
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+1
The most stable out there .. not on the performance side or customization but smooth and stable as hell

Going back to Gingerbread - my experiences

So a few days ago I realized I just can't use JB as a daily driver. I *love* 4.x and am a big fan of almost every change introduced, so I've been using ICS and later JB builds as soon as builds were available (thanks, devs!). But on the DZ it just ain't cutting it. I haven't had a single day without freezes, spontaneous reboots, unbearable slowdowns, graphic glitches etc.
Well I'm back to ILWT CM7, which I haven't used for about 11 months. I've frozen almost every stock app, and have found a usable Holo-style replacement for almost all of them, except for the Browser and the hideous pre-ICS Calendar (any suggestions?). Also every 3rd party SMS app is so bloated.
So far, what I miss:
- I really miss pulling down the status bar in the lockscreen! But that requires a 3rd-party lockscreen replacement which is a huge PITA. Also no 4.x unified lockscreen music controls.
- 4.x Rich Notifications. I added music controls in the CM7 notification power widget, but it's a pretty crappy solution (reminds me of iOS)
- JB makes scrolling in apps (among other things) smoother, and some things were considerably more "fluid". JB wasn't *that* smooth anyhow, at least on the DZ.
- 2.x interface is hideous, "fixed" with ICS Mixer theme, Holo-styled apps and a font change.
- Overall UI polish degradations and papercuts, like the power menu, the loss of holo action bar and the ugly old icons of app menu options.
- Some newer apps don't support 2.x which sucks.
- Tons of 4.x improvements I didn't mention. ICS and JB are such vast improvements from GB. JB is so much more consistent, and it sucks that htc are assholes and dropped support for DZ and DHD.
What's better:
- Much more stable.
- Faster!
- Can actually multitask now because there's no need for the OS to constantly kill things in the background. lol at Titanium constantly getting killed in the background on JB.
- Better battery life.
- The proper drivers mean some apps work here but not in 4.x. For example, any app that uses the phone as a webcam.
So anyone else back on Gingerbread and can share their experience?

Most of the time im running a gingerbread rom. Never get the freezes you are talking about on any 4.x rom in 6 months or so, are you sure you had all partitions in ext4?
I do agree battery life is much lower than in 2.3.x and thats one of the main reasons i tend to stick with them. The ui is much better with 4.x but id rather have an ugly ui then a phone that isnt 100%
Overall ics and somewhat jb has been proven to be running almost perfect on the vision and right now im on an ics (a sense rom which i usualy hate!) But there are just too many things dragging me back to gingerbread, battery life being the biggest issue as im a heavy user
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demkantor said:
Most of the time im running a gingerbread rom. Never get the freezes you are talking about on any 4.x rom in 6 months or so, are you sure you had all partitions in ext4?
I do agree battery life is much lower than in 2.3.x and thats one of the main reasons i tend to stick with them. The ui is much better with 4.x but id rather have an ugly ui then a phone that isnt 100%
Overall ics and somewhat jb has been proven to be running almost perfect on the vision and right now im on an ics (a sense rom which i usualy hate!) But there are just too many things dragging me back to gingerbread, battery life being the biggest issue as im a heavy user
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I have to say the battery life on the newest Andromadous JB test builds are amazing and much better than GB. I even have the CPU governor set the minimum to 800 MHz with maximum to 1500 Mhz and I can still run a full day without recharging (I do quite a bit of web browsing on my G2 and occasional calls).

Possibly between some gb roms it is better but the best battery life that i consistantly get is with elitemodcm7 and ilwtcm7, with heavy use i can get through a full day 18+ hours every time. If i use a little less on some of the ics roms i can get close but not always (elitemod cm9 kernel with mimicry seems to be the best battery life) i poor life on old jb test builds that slowy got a little better, have tried a build since around 90 something but im sure ill test again soon.
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demkantor said:
Possibly between some gb roms it is better but the best battery life that i consistantly get is with elitemodcm7 and ilwtcm7, with heavy use i can get through a full day 18+ hours every time. If i use a little less on some of the ics roms i can get close but not always (elitemod cm9 kernel with mimicry seems to be the best battery life) i poor life on old jb test builds that slowy got a little better, have tried a build since around 90 something but im sure ill test again soon.
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Yeah, definitely try the new test builds, I was really amazed at the big difference in battery life in the newest builds.

euhh, its not beacause of your DZ.
- On the galaxy sII, MOST of the ICS and JB roms are not smooth at all. Lot of crashes , etc. Even on the official update.
- on galaxy note, same thing. Looks like stock JB run better anyway, good thing.
- on nexus S it is the worst since the last JB update.
- on desire ( one of the most supported device) , lot of crashes with ICS.
- And I dont tell you about the milestone (very old device)...
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All the phones mentionned above, are running GB right now.
They not all mine, most of them are my friends phone, they ask me to root it to try new roms. All of them complaining about ICS/JB stability.
I didnt try the big ass phones like the sIII, but they are so powerfull that you can't feel any slowdown.

Thanks for that info, overdose. I've been wondering how other phones with more dev support were handling JB. Here's hoping with the new Nexus phones soon we can finally have a device that handles stock Android decently.
I've ran into an old CM7 bug with the Lense lockscreen... basically what happens is that, for some reason, the software thinks pulling down the Lense should launch a custom app instead of unlocking the device. Since I didn't have any custom app defined, pulling down does nothing and there is no way to unlock the device
So I have to fix it with adb which is pretty pathetic. Ironically I'm typing this from a restored Jelly Bean ROM.
edit: I got it fixed, and in the process dropped my phone and severely cracked the screen. Hahaha. Oh well DZ we had a good run.

Pickx said:
Thanks for that info, overdose. I've been wondering how other phones with more dev support were handling JB. Here's hoping with the new Nexus phones soon we can finally have a device that handles stock Android decently.
I've ran into an old CM7 bug with the Lense lockscreen... basically what happens is that, for some reason, the software thinks pulling down the Lense should launch a custom app instead of unlocking the device. Since I didn't have any custom app defined, pulling down does nothing and there is no way to unlock the device
So I have to fix it with adb which is pretty pathetic. Ironically I'm typing this from a restored Jelly Bean ROM.
edit: I got it fixed, and in the process dropped my phone and severely cracked the screen. Hahaha. Oh well DZ we had a good run.
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DZ screen are cheap.
I have 2 in stock just in case, with the HTC logo. I paid them 30 $ ea. a year ago .

I don't have a desire z but a nexus one and did have 2 regular desires before (my ex gf had ICS spazedog ROM - working pretty good) now I'm running spazedog jellybean rom on the n1 and its smooth than cm was maybe a bit slower to open apps but no real lag or freeze or reboots after a couple weeks. Only problem is no video camera and had to install an app from play store to take pictures without a soft reboot and still the pictures don't look great. That and can't play YouTube videos in app or browser or its reboots. Other than that its pretty reliable and the desire z should be a slightly better phone. Maybe something else causing the issues?
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@createpassword...
Everyone use their phone differently, I agree with much of what you are saying but I highly disagree with bettery battery life on 4.x compared with 2.x, no matter how much you tweak or change things the best roms (for battery life) on 4.x have never been able to compete with the best 2.x in that regard. I will say that the improvment have been incredible over the past 6 months or so, but I'm a heavy user, and maybe its the way I use my phone that runs the battery fast but I easily can get a day with 2.x (about 6hours screen on) and I'm always struggling even with the best 4.x to do the same, (max maybe 4~4.5hrs screen up)
But again, we all use our phones differently. Right now I'm on an ics Rom, about 6hours up, 56% left of battery with just under 2hrs screen on. Granted this is not the best ics rom for battery life but let's I was using say mimicry or elitemod ics, I would be @ maybe 65 @ most, with certain 2.x is be well over 70 right now
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Fair enough, but like I said we all use phones differently, and I will disagree that screen on time is meaningless being the most power is being used when screen is on. I'm sure I could have my phone on, with screen off, put it in airplane mode and let it sit for 3days to see it still has 30% (or whatever) juice left, no matter the os. But that dosent matter to me as I want my phone to last when I'm using it
Listen, you may get the best life out of ics or jb on your phone, I get better life on 2.x, I'm not saying these newer roms are inferior, I'm saying that one of the most important features is battery life to me and I have always gotten the best life in older operating systems. Having said that, I'm a flashaholic and I try nearly every Rom available for any phone I have. Mimicry is amazing, fast, stable, and pretty good battery life. If I absolutely need to be sure I have power left by the end of the day I'm not running mimicry (im a heavy user and the ways I use my phone it just isn't going to happen) and don't say I have bad apps with memory leaks and wake locks because I've been around long enough to know to test for all this. I don't use Many different apps and the ones I do use I know are good (and the same ones I use not matter the os)
Let's just agree you have different experiences with your phone as I have with mine, I'm not steering anyone away from using
Ics or jb, and ill continue to use thenm too. But I (not you) get bettery life with 2.x
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demkantor said:
Fair enough, but like I said we all use phones differently, and I will disagree that screen on time is meaningless being the most power is being used when screen is on. I'm sure I could have my phone on, with screen off, put it in airplane mode and let it sit for 3days to see it still has 30% (or whatever) juice left, no matter the os. But that dosent matter to me as I want my phone to last when I'm using it
Listen, you may get the best life out of ics or jb on your phone, I get better life on 2.x, I'm not saying these newer roms are inferior, I'm saying that one of the most important features is battery life to me and I have always gotten the best life in older operating systems. Having said that, I'm a flashaholic and I try nearly every Rom available for any phone I have. Mimicry is amazing, fast, stable, and pretty good battery life. If I absolutely need to be sure I have power left by the end of the day I'm not running mimicry (im a heavy user and the ways I use my phone it just isn't going to happen) and don't say I have bad apps with memory leaks and wake locks because I've been around long enough to know to test for all this. I don't use Many different apps and the ones I do use I know are good (and the same ones I use not matter the os)
Let's just agree you have different experiences with your phone as I have with mine, I'm not steering anyone away from using
Ics or jb, and ill continue to use thenm too. But I (not you) get bettery life with 2.x
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Obviously battery life varies with the way you use your phone. If you're ever interested in trying JB again, definitely give the test builds a shot. Remember to do a full wipe though, I assume you do anyways. I was shocked at how much the JB test builds improved battery life and responsiveness compared to the Virtuous G-lite I was using for a while.

well thats somewhat a relative point. you see when i consistently get (im picking #s here) 24hrs of battery use with 6 of those hours being screen on time with 2.x. then i compare the use of 4.x where i consistently get 18hrs of use with 4hrs screen on.
this compares not only the screen on time but also the overall time the phone lasts between charges. i feel most people comparing batteries understand that this is over a course of time and that the first day they flash a new rom will not give the best overall picture of what the battery consumption level is.
true the most power consumption is happening when the screen is on, but noting the amount of screen on time along with how long the battery lasts (consistently) will give anyone a good idea of whats going on. see if there is a day that i use my phone less, the battery tends to last longer (you get that) noting how long screen on time is gives a general picture of how frequently the phone is used that day.
also comparing what operating systems do in deep sleep is useful, again that hopefully is not the best way in determining battery life as you are lacking realworld use of the phone. yes its important to note, but like i said if i stuck the phone in a sock drawer for three days with the sim pulled and wifi off, i couldnt care much the results because my use of my phone will never be compared to it sitting in a sock drawer for any period of time.
so one of us is not getting the other, or there is some **** comparing going on over battery life testing. either way i say its best not to waste time and electronic ink over this. lets just say your right for the sake of i dont really care.

I've been in somewhat the same boat having gone back to CM7 many times for speed and stability. Mimicry was very nice but Skype would crash in it and it was an app that I always used. Now that Skype has made some major updates, I'm considering either installing Mimicry again or Jelly Baby. The latter is going to be updated soon from what I've been reading so I'll likely wait and try that.

rizzers said:
I've been in somewhat the same boat having gone back to CM7 many times for speed and stability. Mimicry was very nice but Skype would crash in it and it was an app that I always used. Now that Skype has made some major updates, I'm considering either installing Mimicry again or Jelly Baby. The latter is going to be updated soon from what I've been reading so I'll likely wait and try that.
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Honestly scrolling in cm7 looks laggish to me compared to flinnys don't know why . how is jelly baby compared to flinnys in terms of performance?
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Just my 2 pence but, frankly, any and every CM9.x/CM10.x rom I've ever tried on my DZ has been laggy/buggy after some time. On the other hand, the AOSP counterparts have ALWAYS been faster in general and didn't slow down, unlike CM. Hell, it was the same even with CM7 (with some exceptions, primarily ILWT CM7). This is obviously logical since CM has more things going on unlike AOSP which is pretty light on the feature side (nothing you can't take care of with a couple of apps, mind you). From my experience, CM9+ roms just don't work on the DZ. Whatever I do, they always end up slowing down to the point where I can't even use the phone. As for battery life...I don't have much to say in particular, it has always been below average whatever rom I was running (again with a few exceptions, like G-Lite).
Just as I said though, just my opinion so don't take my word for it.