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I know it's not a real 4g but t-mobile uses HSPA+ 21Mbps and sell it as a 4g.
And all I know is gsm version of sgs2 comes with HSPA+ 21Mbps.
So probably verizion version would be 3g but t-mobile version would be 4g out of the box? Just out of curiosity.
Frankly no one knows, just guessing and speculation now
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I know it's just guessing and speculation now. But let's say sgs2 is already out in Europe and Korea and there is a rumor that sprint would roll out their version of sgs2 as early as end of next month. And there are news reports that samsung would roll out sgs2 lte (1.7gh snapdragon) on September in Korea. These mean if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it would be definitely 3g. And if t-mo rolls out same sgs2 around that time frame (although it's gsm) they gonna sell that same phone as 4g(also it would be a lot faster than verizon's 3g). And for at&t they could use HSPA+(not sure). So if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it cannot compete with t-mo or at&t variant. If verizon wants to compete with t-mo or at&t (probably they gonna advertise sgs2 as 4g) verizon should wait till sgs2 lte would come out.
So My guess is we gotta wait till late September or later for lte version.
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I know it's just guessing and speculation now. But let's say sgs2 is already out in Europe and Korea and there is a rumor that sprint would roll out their version of sgs2 as early as end of next month. And there are news reports that samsung would roll out sgs2 lte (1.7gh snapdragon) on September in Korea. These mean if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it would be definitely 3g. And if t-mo rolls out same sgs2 around that time frame (although it's gsm) they gonna sell that same phone as 4g(also it would be a lot faster than verizon's 3g). And for at&t they could use HSPA+(not sure). So if verizon rolls out sgs2 before September it cannot compete with t-mo or at&t variant. If verizon wants to compete with t-mo or at&t (probably they gonna advertise sgs2 as 4g) verizon should wait till sgs2 lte would come out.
So My guess is we gotta wait till late September or later for lte version.
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Until someone has the production ready device in hand and can examine the hardware, or Samsung/VZW release the product specs, there is nothing definite. Even if one could get ahold of pre-release software/firmware, there would be nothing that confirm nothing, just show you want pre-production models are using. So, if you want to continue speculation, the SGS2 will show up and make you 3 square meals a day, clean your house, teleport you to work, and shoot out rainbows and unicorns when you're feeling blue. Until actual device specs come out, it's anyone's guess as to what the SGS2 will be like on VZW.
I understand what you mean, sir.
I'm just curious. When I saw the spec of sgs2 I saw HSPA+ 21m. That means if t-mo release sgs2 now they could brand it as a 4G device. On the other hand if verizon rolls out sgs2 now they can not claim it as a 4G device. What I mean is if that is the case there should be some impact for pricing the device, especially droid charge cost $300 which isn't big difference from fascinate except samoled+ & lte modem. We'll see when it comes out.
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I understand what you mean, sir.
I'm just curious. When I saw the spec of sgs2 I saw HSPA+ 21m. That means if t-mo release sgs2 now they could brand it as a 4G device. On the other hand if verizon rolls out sgs2 now they can not claim it as a 4G device. What I mean is if that is the case there should be some impact for pricing the device, especially droid charge cost $300 which isn't big difference from fascinate except samoled+ & lte modem. We'll see when it comes out.
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VZW wouldn't be releasing the same device as T-Mobile anyways, because of GSM vs. CDMA. So who's to say that VZW wouldn't put in an LTE radio in their version now? The 10.1 Tab will be LTE on VZW in July and has the same slim form factor. I don't see why they wouldn't do the same for the SGS II
You're right. T-mo and verizon use different tech(gsm vs cdma) but when galaxy s variants came out on big 4 they all have almost identical spec. So I just guess that would happen again for sgs2. Also samsung can put lte modem for function(verizon). But news release in Korea indicate samsung release first lte version of sgs2 for Korean market on september. Even if samsung could make lte version of sgs2 before september then what about the droid charge? if verizon release function with lte within a few months it's gonna go over $350 with 2 yr contract cause charge is $300.
Anyway it's gonna be very interesting.
I would think if anything, the Charge would drop in price and the SGS II would take it's place, price-wise
Yep. That would make sense.
l just hope it would stay within price range I can afford.
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kpark67 said:
You're right. T-mo and verizon use different tech(gsm vs cdma) but when galaxy s variants came out on big 4 they all have almost identical spec.
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ummm....When Galaxy S series was released, Sprint version was the Epic4G and the only one with a slide out keyboard
Google Samsung Function. There is a speculated spec sheet right on top. Also includes pics.
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landshark68 said:
ummm....When Galaxy S series was released, Sprint version was the Epic4G and the only one with a slide out keyboard
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There were some other differences, too. The Fascinate and Epic had camera flashes while the others didn't, and the Fascinate has 25% less RAM.
The Fascinate also came out nearly 2 months after T-Mobile's Vibrant. Long story short, what other carriers do or don't do is completely irrelevant to us.
As long as I remember all 4 variants of galaxy s fo US market have 512mb ram. What I remember is system info (quadrant) on captivate shows around 340mb something which is almost same as fascinate.
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There were some other differences, too. The Fascinate and Epic had camera flashes while the others didn't, and the Fascinate has 25% less RAM.
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The Fascinate has just as much RAM as all the other SGS phones...
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The Fascinate has just as much RAM as all the other SGS phones...
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With the latest roms available I would easily be satisfied with the fascinate for another two years if only it had a little more ram. Ram is really my only complaint at all with this phone.
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At first I was thinking 3G since they couldn't fit an LTE radio. But they managed to squeeze one in the 8.6mm GTab 10.1, so maybe they can here too. Even if they have to make it 8.6mm thin, I won't care, it'll be an awesome device. Unless Verizon Bings this one.
It would be nice, but it would call for some heavy duty changes by Samsung engineering wise. Have you noticed the sheer size of the lte phones? The whole lte system doesn't have the whole system on a chip it and it requires two separate radios, which is why it allows talk and surfing. This would make the galaxy s2 pretty huge unless Samsung has created an lte system on a chip for this phone.
According to the leaked rumored spec sheet, 4G will be included. Here is the link below.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Function_id5535
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/07/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-canadian-carriers/
Update: Sure enough, Mobilicity is also onboard, which along with Wind Mobile makes it pretty clear that T-Mobile-friendly AWS frequencies are baked in.
We pretty much knew it is coming to the states. The question is when. Hopefully not much will be changed.
laztpn0i said:
We pretty much knew it is coming to the states. The question is when. Hopefully not much will be changed.
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Well now, you can get one with AWS Bands without waiting till like.... October/November on Tmo..
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We pretty much knew it is coming to the states. The question is when. Hopefully not much will be changed.
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Yup. The real question is the US gonna get the nerfed version. I want no part of that.
So is it going to be like the Galaxy Nexus where you could buy the Canadian version which was the same phone.. Will the Canadian phone be same but with the 1700 band or will there b differences?
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To each their own.
I have not read anywhere that the international version, i9300, is a pentaband HSDPA phone. Also, GSMArena has it listed as a quad band so it will not work on T-Mobiles 4G network. It looks like if/when it does come to T-Mo, it will need to be a customized version.
Prob a customized Canadian version...
The good news is that Tmo users do not need to wait another 6 months till the SGS III comes out in Tmo
Any idea on whether this will have the same processor as the international version?
I'm betting it will have a s4 processor. I hope I'm wrong....
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Mobilicity doesn't have LTE. we just have wait and see, what they do to the phone.
This just means a custom aws version will also be released. Doesn't look like the international version has T-Mobile hspa. So it will probably not come with the exynos CPU etc.
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I'm betting it will have a s4 processor. I hope I'm wrong....
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what's wrong with the S4 Qualcomn?
it;s as beefy as any of the new SOC, even faster than the nVidia Tegra
I personally would like the GSM NA variants to be as close to the international version as possible. Mostly because of the ease of porting custom ROMs. And I really do like my GT-I9100's physical home button. Hope that makes it over, but I doubt it (the NA models never had it, so getting one on the GS3 will break the design/UI continuity).
so how does one go about getting Mobilicity or wind mobile's gs3? bestbuy.ca doesnt ship outside of Canada. some carrier's website dont let you buy phone @ full price.
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so how does one go about getting Mobilicity or wind mobile's gs3? bestbuy.ca doesnt ship outside of Canada. some carrier's website dont let you buy phone @ full price.
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that's why you need contacts and/or friends in different countries to help you for these kind of stuff
also mentioned in this other topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26224887
[Official] US Cellular Samsung Galaxy S III Info/Pre-Order/Chat Thread
This thread is for all users on US Celluar.
Please post here if you are going to get it/sell your phone to purchase it?
It seems to be on the website now. Pre order starts June 12 online
Website Link: Email Signup: http://social.uscellular.com/
Online Order: http://www.uscellular.com/uscellula...ge+Hero+Slide+1-_-USCC+Home+Page+Hero+Slide+1
I will be getting it when it is released, sounds like some time in July. I hope US cellular uses similiar software as the other carriers. I have the s2 and is rooted, but not much else is compatible so hopefully the s3 will have more options once rooted as the other carriers. US cellular is the only carrier in my area with 4g service, so that is why I am staying with us cellular, why pay for a 4g phone if you cant utilize 4g I figure
US Cellular Pricing
Samsung Galaxy S® III - Blue 16GB $199.99 after $100 mail-in rebate
Samsung Galaxy S® III - White 16GB $199.99 after $100 mail-in rebate
Samsung Galaxy S® III - White 32GB $249.99 after $100 mail-in rebate
WEB-ONLY PRE-ORDER:
Pre-order the Samsung GALAXY S® III online today. This device is scheduled to ship approximately 4-6 weeks from pre-sale start date (June 12, 2012). Customer's credit card will be charged within 72 hours of customer placing the order. Completed mail-in rebate forms for Samsung GALAXY S® III pre-order customers will be honored if received by U.S. Cellular® prior to December 18, 2012.
Does that mean that only the pre-order customer will get the rebate? Six weeks from today means the phone should be shipping by July 24
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GGerk said:
I will be getting it when it is released, sounds like some time in July. I hope US cellular uses similiar software as the other carriers. I have the s2 and is rooted, but not much else is compatible so hopefully the s3 will have more options once rooted as the other carriers. US cellular is the only carrier in my area with 4g service, so that is why I am staying with us cellular, why pay for a 4g phone if you cant utilize 4g I figure
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I have researched the various carriers and offerings for a yr or so anticipating a new phone upgrade myself. US Cellualar uses CDMA technology for the service which is the lesser used of the 2 in the USA. The other is GSM, which constitutes 70% of the market here. I currently have a I Wireless Galaxy Vibrant S which is a partner of T-Mobile. This is GSM based and has had quite an extensive ROM development on xda. I have checked the CDMA US Cellular models on xda and have found none. I checked other CDMA phones and found some Sprint and Verizon phones. Their coverage lacks in my area. Do not hope for development on xda on a US Cellualar version of the SIII. I hope I'm wrong. Although, due to coverage issues, I may still be getting the US Cellualar SIII. My second choise is AT & T which also is a GSM carrier, but coverage in my 2 areas of need is worse than US cellualar. Good luck.
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I have researched the various carriers and offerings for a yr or so anticipating a new phone upgrade myself. US Cellualar uses GSM technology for the service which is the lesser used of the 2 in the USA. The other is CDMA, which constitutes 70% of the market here. I currently have a I Wireless Galaxy Vibrant S which is a partner of T-Mobile. This is CDMA based and has had quite an extensive ROM development on xda. I have checked the GSM US Cellular models on xda and have found none. I checked other GSM phones and found very few here. The market share is so small that there is little development on GSM phones save some Sprint phones (Sprint also uses GSM). Therefore, do not hope for development on xda on a US Cellualar version of the SIII. I hope I'm wrong. Due to coverage issues, I may be getting the US Cellualar SIII. My second choise is AT & T which also is a CDMA carrier, but coverage in my 2 areas of need is worse than US cellualar. Good luck.
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Are you sure that US Cellular is GSM? They are a CDMA carrier, I believe you have facts incorrect
dhonzik said:
Are you sure that US Cellular is GSM? They are a CDMA carrier, I believe you have facts incorrect
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Reverse all my comments concerning GSM and CDMA in the quoted text. I got mixed up. I edited the original post. Thanks dzonzik.
Here's the carriers and their technology types:
CDMA: Alltel, Sprint, U.S. Cellular, Verizon
GSM: AT&T, T-Mobile
iDEN: Nextel
But, xda has not been a ROM developer for US Cellular phones. Some Verizon and Sprint though.
dbethards said:
Reverse all my comments concerning GSM and CDMA in the quoted text. I got mixed up. I edited the original post. Thanks dzonzik.
Here's the carriers and their technology types:
CDMA: Alltel, Sprint, U.S. Cellular, Verizon
GSM: AT&T, T-Mobile
iDEN: Nextel
But, xda has not been a ROM developer for US Cellular phones. Some Verizon and Sprint though.
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Best place to look for android development besides here is:
http://www.rootzwiki.com
You could also check out www.teamuscellular.com.
Talked with a US Cellular store Rep and she related it should be coming out around 9 July
Well now that they have been announced I have a questions are there any differences between them ? Will they both get the same Dev support ? I made the mistake of buying the galaxy 2 from tmobile and worse decision I ever did had to get rid of it and buy a gnex since the support for the galaxy s2 was the worst and always behind..... Since I have tmobile might ass well use one of my upgrades and save some money on the lg4 just making sure I won't be stuck getting late updates or have luck of support like some people with the Verizon galaxy nexus are having but I understand why since they are using lte which changes the phone around......
thanks for all the help in advanced
There literally is no difference other than the contract you sign.
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Smokeey said:
There literally is no difference other than the contract you sign.
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thanks for the quick response.... I will go ahead and order thru tmobile since im planning to keep them anyways about time they release a phone I actually want :good::good:
gdmlaz said:
thanks for the quick response.... I will go ahead and order thru tmobile since im planning to keep them anyways about time they release a phone I actually want :good::good:
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NO! Pay $150 more to not have to worry about a contract, PLUS pay less with a Value or Pre-Paid Tmo plan.
It is too soon to tell if there will be a software difference. Anyone who says differently needs to provide a link showing proof.
The hardware will be the same.
Actually, it seems that the T-Mobile version will have 42mbps HSPA+, while the version in the google play store only goes up to 21mbps HSPA+.
Other than that, I would assume they would be identical.
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/29/t-mobile-nexus-4-price/
(Under the update at the bottom of the page)
lightninman said:
Actually, it seems that the T-Mobile version will have 42mbps HSPA+, while the version in the google play store only goes up to 21mbps HSPA+.
Other than that, I would assume they would be identical.
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/29/t-mobile-nexus-4-price/
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FFS people. There are not two versions. It has 8GB or 16GB, those are the SKUs. They're both 42mbps HSPA+.
Google's own Play Store had a typo. It's even been fixed there: https://play.google.com/store/devic...wNV9uZXh1c1VTXzFfcHJvbW9fMTM1MTUyODMyNzI1OCJd
It's DC-HSPA+ 42mbps.
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FFS people. There are not two versions. It has 8GB or 16GB, those are the SKUs. They're both 42mbps HSPA+.
Google's own Play Store had a typo. It's even been fixed there: https://play.google.com/store/devic...wNV9uZXh1c1VTXzFfcHJvbW9fMTM1MTUyODMyNzI1OCJd
It's DC-HSPA+ 42mbps.
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My bad, I saw the 21 earlier and I thought it was some deal between T-Mobile and Google. The Galaxy Nexus international and US unlocked versions were identical hardware-wise, and since there won't be a CDMA version, there shouldn't be any differences with the Nexus 4
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My bad, I saw the 21 earlier and I thought it was some deal between T-Mobile and Google. The Galaxy Nexus international and US unlocked versions were identical hardware-wise, and since there won't be a CDMA version, there shouldn't be any differences with the Nexus 4
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Not hardware-wise, but there could be software-wise.
Look at all the yakju variants, which are identical hardware, but different software.
adrynalyne said:
Not hardware-wise, but there could be software-wise.
Look at all the yakju variants, which are identical hardware, but different software.
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I'm wondering about the SW build also like with the GNex. But i'm getting the Play Store version regardless :good:
J-Hop2o6 said:
NO! Pay $150 more to not have to worry about a contract, PLUS pay less with a Value or Pre-Paid Tmo plan.
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Im on a family plan and planning to keep tmobile since I have 3 lines in this account so wasting an upgrade doesn't really bother me
No offense but I think the best place to ask this question is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1908
N9005 Int Kitkat has been leaked. If anyone wants to pull apart the rom http://mattfacts.com/N3KitKat.rar.torrent
funny
I just was reading about it here !
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/01/12...kat-test-firmware-for-galaxy-note-3-sm-n9005/
Official one is just out. XEO(Poland) region. Check sammobile or samsung-updates. I guess ATT one will be released in a month?
Radukk said:
I guess ATT one will be released in a month?
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Lol good one.
Chances are..ART won't be enabled and we'll probably not notice anything being different. Hopefully some bugs gets squashed at least
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Rippley05 said:
Chances are..ART won't be enabled and we'll probably not notice anything being different. Hopefully some bugs gets squashed at least
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We wont be able to use ART anyway since Xposed doesn't wont work with ART and most ppl who root have that installed because it adds so many possibilities. But this might help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546120
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Official one is just out. XEO(Poland) region. Check sammobile or samsung-updates. I guess ATT one will be released in a month?
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AT&T in a month?! nahhh
Radukk said:
Official one is just out. XEO(Poland) region. Check sammobile or samsung-updates. I guess ATT one will be released in a month?
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AT&T is almost always six months behind the initial release of an Android version. They take their sweet time adding all their bloat and locking it down more.
designgears said:
AT&T in a month?! nahhh
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I hope you mean sooner but I'm guessing you mean more like 3 months?
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We'll see KitKat in 2015. No doubt.
Delakit said:
We'll see KitKat in 2015. No doubt.
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Nah. More like KitKat on the Note 4. At&t wont have my money. I will never buy another At&t product.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Nah. More like KitKat on the Note 4. At&t wont have my money. I will never buy another At&t product.
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It will be coming to the Note 3 regardless. It isn't an AT&T product hence Samsung Note 3 But I'll refrain from getting any more technical.
Downloading now..I'll see what I can do about making it work for our phone.
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I hear a lot of people bashing at&t...but I've been with them for 11..When they were Cingular and my service has always been excellent. I've had Verizon and sprint and didn't care for either. At&t has always been good to me
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It will be coming to the Note 3 regardless. It isn't an AT&T product hence Samsung Note 3 But I'll refrain from getting any more technical.
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The At&t Note 3 just now (from October) has some things we can do (Safestrap, ROMS, Etc) but also has the Locked Bootloader like we all know.
If I bought a Developer Edition phone going forward, I wont have this problem. Thats why I'm choosing not to buy At&t products anymore. They will be locked. I've been with At&t for 18 years. My Father In Law retired (30 years) with them. We have two business accounts and two family plans. SO SIGN HERE BUDDY !!! >>
Please join this campaign/sign petition: http://chn.ge/192KeHy <- Paste this everywhere you leave comments...
Help blitz on AT&T's Social Media Pages on FaceBook
https://www.facebook.com/ATT
[UWe REALLY need to make our voice heard at Samsung, who, as a partner to AT&T, may have additional influence when they know that THEIR business will be affected as well.
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile[/U]
Go to these sites, and blitz the wall with this line: AT&T: Unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader! or Samsung: Please ask AT&T to Unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader!
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The At&t Note 3 just now (from October) has some things we can do (Safestrap, ROMS, Etc) but also has the Locked Bootloader like we all know.
If I bought a Developer Edition phone going forward, I wont have this problem. Thats why I'm choosing not to buy At&t products anymore. They will be locked. I've been with At&t for 18 years. My Father In Law retired (30 years) with them. We have two business accounts and two family plans. SO SIGN HERE BUDDY !!! >>
Please join this campaign/sign petition: http://chn.ge/192KeHy <- Paste this everywhere you leave comments...
Help blitz on AT&T's Social Media Pages on FaceBook
https://www.facebook.com/ATT
[UWe REALLY need to make our voice heard at Samsung, who, as a partner to AT&T, may have additional influence when they know that THEIR business will be affected as well.
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile[/U]
Go to these sites, and blitz the wall with this line: AT&T: Unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader! or Samsung: Please ask AT&T to Unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader!
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Crazy, I didn't know there was a Dev Edition for this phone yet. I'm out of the loop now that my flashaholic days have been minimal. I would've just bought the dev edition -_-
Will the leaked ver. work on my phone?
Will that leaked android 4.4 work on my at&t note 3?
No our bootloader is locked
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so i heard about our phones getting the 4.4.2 update but only out of the u.s well as i was reading this article Link for Article i begin to read in the comments someone flashing this 4.4.2 build on a tmobile variant and got it to sucessfuly work. I wonder if the same could be done for our at&t variant considering there almost identically the same. and fyi to everyone who thinks att updating is slow lol you wont know till youve been with verizon they release updates 4 month after anyone else does (us cell companies)
dxjay said:
I wonder if the same could be done for our at&t variant considering there almost identically the same. and fyi to everyone who thinks att updating is slow lol you wont know till youve been with verizon they release updates 4 month after anyone else does (us cell companies)
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It won't work. The bootloader is locked on the ATT version. That means no kernels. The kernel must be digitally signed by AT&T (or Samsung for AT&T) to work. That is why all roms for the AT&T version use the stock AT&T 4.3 kernel. If you want a freely customizable device sell the ATT version and get the Tmobile version. It works on AT&T.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464498