Hey guys..my friend who hooked me up with my original N1 gave me an HD2 and another N1...when I put an ATT sim in it I get the ATT logo for service and I also have 3G. My question is what model phone do I have?
thanks.
harsaphes said:
Hey guys..my friend who hooked me up with my original N1 gave me an HD2 and another N1...when I put an ATT sim in it I get the ATT logo for service and I also have 3G. My question is what model phone do I have?
thanks.
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if you get 3G with the N1 with ATT sim, then it is the ATT branded one; it wasn't made specifically for ATT (i believe it was made for one of the Canadian provider), which is compatible with the ATT 3G
btw, you have a great friend to hook you up with 2 N1 and a HD2; you should hook me up with one
thanks for the quick reply...and yes, she is a great friend.
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and yes, she is a great friend.
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Future wife
jblazea50 said:
if you get 3G with the N1 with ATT sim, then it is the ATT branded one; it wasn't made specifically for ATT (i believe it was made for one of the Canadian provider), which is compatible with the ATT 3G
btw, you have a great friend to hook you up with 2 N1 and a HD2; you should hook me up with one
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No, the N1 that works on AT&T was made specifically for AT&T.
The HD2 that works on AT&T was made for Telstra... or you are thinking of any 3G phone made for Rogers.
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if you get 3G with the N1 with ATT sim, then it is the ATT branded one; it wasn't made specifically for ATT (i believe it was made for one of the Canadian provider), which is compatible with the ATT 3G
btw, you have a great friend to hook you up with 2 N1 and a HD2; you should hook me up with one
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No, the N1 that works on AT&T was made specifically for AT&T.
The HD2 that works on AT&T was made for Telstra... or you are thinking of any 3G phone made for Rogers.
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You're both wrong? The Nexus One was made and sold unlocked, it has the bands 850/1900 which at&t and some canadian providers use, not specifically made for one carrier or another
https://www.google.com/phone/choose?hl=en&gl=US&s7e=
http://www.bing.com/search?q=nexus+one+for+at&t&src=IE-Address
How am I wrong? The AT&T compatible Nexus One was approved by the USA FCC, with the specific intent of it being sold as the AT&T compatible Nexus One. It does happen to work with other carriers, just as the T-Mobile version works with other carriers as well.
But there is no reason they would pay the money to get it approved by the USA FCC if it wasn't being sold specifically for AT&T customers.
As well, the Nexus One is made and sold unlocked with the option of T-Mobile 3G bands or AT&T 3G bands... those bands happen to work with other carriers as well, such as T-Mobile working with a Canadian carrier as well, just as AT&T works with another Canadian provider, plus both phones work with any carrier outside the North America... so was the T-Mobile version made for O2? Was it made for Vodafone? No, it was made for T-Mobile, just as the AT&T banded device was made for AT&T, and just happens to have carry over support for other carriers.
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https://www.google.com/phone/choose?hl=en&gl=US&s7e=
http://www.bing.com/search?q=nexus+one+for+at&t&src=IE-Address
How am I wrong? The AT&T compatible Nexus One was approved by the USA FCC, with the specific intent of it being sold as the AT&T compatible Nexus One. It does happen to work with other carriers, just as the T-Mobile version works with other carriers as well.
But there is no reason they would pay the money to get it approved by the USA FCC if it wasn't being sold specifically for AT&T customers.
As well, the Nexus One is made and sold unlocked with the option of T-Mobile 3G bands or AT&T 3G bands... those bands happen to work with other carriers as well, such as T-Mobile working with a Canadian carrier as well, just as AT&T works with another Canadian provider, plus both phones work with any carrier outside the North America... so was the T-Mobile version made for O2? Was it made for Vodafone? No, it was made for T-Mobile, just as the AT&T banded device was made for AT&T, and just happens to have carry over support for other carriers.
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maybe you are not aware of how the FCC testing process goes, but there are phones that are never even sold in the USA, like euro phones, or phones from the far east, that still go thru FCC testing, yet they dont even have the proper bands for the USA 3G networks.
so the nexus one was not specifically made to be released for ATT. i dont know where you're getting that info.
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https://www.google.com/phone/choose?hl=en&gl=US&s7e=
http://www.bing.com/search?q=nexus+one+for+at&t&src=IE-Address
How am I wrong? The AT&T compatible Nexus One was approved by the USA FCC, with the specific intent of it being sold as the AT&T compatible Nexus One. It does happen to work with other carriers, just as the T-Mobile version works with other carriers as well.
But there is no reason they would pay the money to get it approved by the USA FCC if it wasn't being sold specifically for AT&T customers.
As well, the Nexus One is made and sold unlocked with the option of T-Mobile 3G bands or AT&T 3G bands... those bands happen to work with other carriers as well, such as T-Mobile working with a Canadian carrier as well, just as AT&T works with another Canadian provider, plus both phones work with any carrier outside the North America... so was the T-Mobile version made for O2? Was it made for Vodafone? No, it was made for T-Mobile, just as the AT&T banded device was made for AT&T, and just happens to have carry over support for other carriers.
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You're confusing "compatible" and "designed for".
Carrier 1 uses Frequency X
Carrier 2 uses Frequency Y
Just because a phone that works with frequency X doesn't mean it was created solely for carrier 1.
GSM is an "open" network unline sprint's and verizon's CDMA networks.
Take "world phones" as an example, they work on Carrier 1 and 2, but it wasn't designed specifically for either.
There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING HW-wise in Nexus that is carrier-specific.
Nobody makes a phone for a specific carrier, carriers only brand phones. Phone is made for a range of networks, and Nexus has 2 options, basically - because it utilizes 1 of 2 chips, either QSD8650, or QSD8250, and those are adjusted for different ranges (specifically 850/1900/2100 or 900/AWS/2100). On the Google choice screen, read: "Compatible with XXXXXXXX".
There's 2100 coverage in most of the world, so both versions of Nexus can be used outside Americas and have a high probability of getting 3G signal, since they both support it. In Americas the common system appears to be 850/1900, though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UMTS_networks
I am not confusing anything. The Nexus One with AT&T 3G banding was made with the purpose of fulfilling Google's desire to have a Nexus One with AT&T 3G banding. Or, in other words, they made it to be the AT&T version of the Nexus One. Hence, there being hundreds of news articles and even threads on this very site using the termonology "AT&T version".
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=AT&T+nexus+one&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
Also, from Google's official statement on the matter:
"starting today, an additional version of the Nexus One is available from the Google web store that is compatible with AT&T's 3G network. This new model can be purchased as an unlocked device without a service plan."
http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-features/48920-google-touts-att-compatible-nexus-one
Why would they announce that they now have a version that works with AT&T 3G if it wasn't meant for AT&T?
At&t uses those bands, those bands do not belong to At&t. That's the difference.
The way to tell if your phone is the T-Mobile or AT&T version is by looking at the part number on the back of the phone.
P/N: 99HKE002-00 for the T-Mobile version
P/N: 99HKE007-01 for the AT&T version
Hope that helps!
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At&t uses those bands, those bands do not belong to At&t. That's the difference.
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I understand what you guys are saying, the Nexus One wasn't made specifically for any carrier, and that isn't what I am saying or did say. What I am saying is that they did actively think about which 3G bands were included in the device... and decided they wanted to make one with AT&T banding as well, and when they released it they announced they had just released their AT&T 3G compatible Nexus One, and thus it seems fair to say (and not a stretch of words, unless we want to be anal about it), that Google made it for AT&T... perhaps saying "Google made it for AT&T's 3G network" is more complete and better, but that is a potential meaning from my original statement and so forth.
And technically AT&T owns the rights to those bands in the United States. Since you like to be super specific and technical with your semantics, figured I would add that in.
They own their towers, they don't own the bands of gsm technology, those are licensed out to them.
Yes, google made a concious decision to make that phone compatible with at&t, but that's not the same are making the phone FOR at&t.
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I understand what you guys are saying, the Nexus One wasn't made specifically for any carrier, and that isn't what I am saying or did say. What I am saying is that they did actively think about which 3G bands were included in the device... and decided they wanted to make one with AT&T banding as well, and when they released it they announced they had just released their AT&T 3G compatible Nexus One, and thus it seems fair to say (and not a stretch of words, unless we want to be anal about it), that Google made it for AT&T... perhaps saying "Google made it for AT&T's 3G network" is more complete and better, but that is a potential meaning from my original statement and so forth.
And technically AT&T owns the rights to those bands in the United States. Since you like to be super specific and technical with your semantics, figured I would add that in.
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Well it was also made for the Canadian and some South American carriers. People in the USA will call it the AT&T version, people in Canada will call it for whatever carriers they have.
I think he is maybe not quite into the world of cell phones as some of us are, so when you look at it from that perspective you would think that Google made it "for ATT." That's not really the case though.
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They own their towers, they don't own the bands of gsm technology, those are licensed out to them.
Yes, google made a concious decision to make that phone compatible with at&t, but that's not the same are making the phone FOR at&t.
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I am just baffled... You don't think AT&T owns the rights to use the frequencies they are running on? Why does the FCC auction off frequencies then? Who are they auctioning them off to? What is being auctioned off? Nothing? Is it just a big sham?
And FYI, GSM and CDMA can run on the same frequencies, there is not point to even mentioning that they don't own those bands of gsm technology... the technology aspect is whether they decide to use gsm or cdma to broadcast over those frequencies, it has nothing to do with buying gsm specific.
Also, it is fair to say, like I already explained, that they made the AT&T banded device for AT&T in that they actively decided to make a Nexus One that works with AT&T. Sure, semantically speaking, it isn't perfect... but based off what Google themself said at the launch (We are proud to announce the AT&T compatible version of the Nexus One) it is easy to see that was their driving force, not Telstra.
Dude, I guess you're one of those that don't ever read what others write, and definitely don't open links.
Go to the previous page, open the Wiki link to the list of UMTS networks, and look carefully at the "Americas" section. What will you find there?
Ah, yes. ALMOST EVERY CARRIER IN YOUR HALF OF THE GLOBE IS USING THOSE FREQUENCIES.
Then, perhaps, you should think again, why did Google choose the frequencies as they did. Or actually, you might understand that the only thing Google chose is Qualcomm's CPU to power the phone, and this CPU just "happens" to come in 2 versions, each supporting different bands, one optimized for Americas and one for Eurasia, both including the world's most common 2100MHz band (the choice of band support can be seen in any device using Snapdragon chipset, as far as I've checked). AT&T happens to use the same bands as 80% of Americas' providers use, so?
Maybe now the "driving force" is a bit clearer.
Oh well, wasted enough time trying to explain the obvious.
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Dude, I guess you're one of those that don't ever read what others write, and definitely don't open links.
Go to the previous page, open the Wiki link to the list of UMTS networks, and look carefully at the "Americas" section. What will you find there?
Ah, yes. ALMOST EVERY CARRIER IN YOUR HALF OF THE GLOBE IS USING THOSE FREQUENCIES.
Then, perhaps, you should think again, why did Google choose the frequencies as they did. Or actually, you might understand that the only thing Google chose is Qualcomm's CPU to power the phone, and this CPU just "happens" to come in 2 versions, each supporting different bands, one optimized for Americas and one for Eurasia, both including the world's most common 2100MHz band (the choice of band support can be seen in any device using Snapdragon chipset, as far as I've checked). AT&T happens to use the same bands as 80% of Americas' providers use, so?
Maybe now the "driving force" is a bit clearer.
Oh well, wasted enough time trying to explain the obvious.
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So you think it is obvioud Google had HTC make a Nexus One with the 850/1900 3G banding because they wanted to appease Rogers and Telstra? You have got to be kidding me. What sort of business sense does that make?
Hey, forget about AT&T and its 100 million customers, and that they are located in our home market, we want to make sure we make the Canadians and their 20 million customers happy.
I bet it is real nice to be so naive and caught up in "semantics" to believe such real world flawed ideas.
http://developer.motorola.com/products/xoom-mz601/
http://developer.motorola.com/products/xoom-mz604/
http://developer.motorola.com/products/xoom/
One is WIFI only (MZ604), one has EVDO Rev A (MZ6400), and one with GPRS/EDGE (MZ601 & MZ603)
http://developer.motorola.com/products/compare/?items=17869,17987,17982
There is a version coming out for Sprint. Engadget had an article on it earlier in the day, Xoom with a Sprint logo on it. There's also a WiFi only version releasing in April.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/18/motorola-xoom-with-sprint-insignia-nexus-s-4g-logo-leak-out/
Yes, their are really 3 different versions.
WiFi Only - self explanitory
CDMA - Verizon + LTE, (Soon to be Sprint + WiMax)
GSM - Various carriers Europe, Canada, ect. HSPA Max speed~10Mbps down and ~6Mbps up
On a side note the GSM version of the XOOM does have the necessary frequencies for AT&T HSPA. I have not found any indication that that XOOM will come to AT&T, but you could in theory buy one unlocked and put a sim card in. I did email store.motorola.com to ask about buying an unlocked GSM/HSPA XOOM so I could use it with my existing AT&T account and got the following response.
Dear Customer,
Thanks for reaching out to Motorola. I’ve reviewed your e-mail and I’m ready to help.
I do apologize but we currently do not have any available information regarding the release date of the GSM version of the Motorola XOOM in the United States. I'm so sorry for that inconvenience.
Although some general time frames have been quoted in the media announcements, you can register to be notified of updates on product launches at the following link:
https://www.motorola.com/worp/campaigns/coming-soon/USA/
We hope that you find this information useful and look forward to assisting you in the future.
For information about Motorola products and services, please visit us at http://www.motorola.com/
Thank you for contacting Motorola e-mail support.
Best Regards,
XXXX
Customer By Web Form (Customer) - 03/16/2011 04:23 AM
Will the GSM/HSPA version of the XOOM be available for purchase from store.motorola.com for USA residents. I would like to buy one with out a contract and I don't want or have Verizon service. I currently have a Verizon CDMA XOOM with no service and plan on getting the wifi only XOOM when it comes out, but I would really like to get an unlocked GSM/HSPA XOOM. The CDMA/Verizon XOOM is not international friendly for business men like myself. I would be willing to pay full price $799.99 for a GSM/HSPA XOOM. I have no need for 4G LTE as it will not be fully deployed for a couple of years, and by then new devices will be on the market.
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http://briefmobile.com/galaxy-s-iii-hitting-5-u-s-carriers-starting-in-june#press-release-outside
"Samsung Mobile has just announced that Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and US Cellular will all get the Galaxy S III in June. The company adds, “Exact pricing and retail availability will be announced by each of the five carriers in the coming weeks.”‘ The company said prices will be “starting from $199,” but we are not sure if that price will hold steady on all carriers.
Samsung PR also says that the company plans on “delivering the same iconic smartphone design and premium content sharing experience with AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon Wireless and U.S. Cellular.” That would lead one to believe Samsung is delivering the same design on all carriers and not having a different variant for each."
Best news I've heard, thanks for posting this.. ill have a a verizon sgs3 in my hands no time!
Try not to open new thread every time you read an article. There is already a usa thread
I'm not the USA but I'm glad Samsung is releasing the same model everywhere (CDMA/LTE/4G aside).
So no bloat ware and faster updates. yessss
sent from a 96gb N7000
pachi72 said:
So no bloat ware and faster updates. yessss
sent from a 96gb N7000
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Of course there will be bloatware lol. It just the outside look of the phone that will remain the same
Is t-mobile getting quad?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA
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Is t-mobile getting quad?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using XDA
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Everyone will mostly get s4 dual core because of LTE. Even though tmobile is not LTE their upgraded HSPA+ 42 or whatever speed is only supported by s4. So don't expect to see exynos in any US version.
I'm going on a trip in two weeks. What's the easiest way to use a foreign SIM in a rooted Verizon S3 and back to Verizon?
You're in the wrong forum man.
Go here for the verizon S3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1712
The Verizon variants have a CDMA antenna and not a GSM antenna, so its not possible.
EDIT: The country you're visiting must have CDMA-variant verizon partners to roam, I highly doubt they will as CDMA is not widely supported unless your in the USA or China.
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The Verizon variants have a CDMA antenna and not a GSM antenna, so its not possible.
EDIT: The country you're visiting must have CDMA-variant verizon partners to roam, I highly doubt they will as CDMA is not widely supported unless your in the USA or China.
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Good news!
The good news is that owners of the Samsung Galaxy S3 through Verizon now have global roaming capabilities. The bad news is that Verizon apparently believes the "sometime after launch" promise it made equals a half-year wait.
Last June, when the Galaxy S3 was about to launch, I wrote about how Verizon promised it would allow for global roaming and using any SIM card, not just one locked to a Verizon calling plan.
source:Cnet:'After launch' update for Verizon Galaxy S3 took six months
I just purchase a Moto X Play on Swappa and it was listed in the XT1562 group but the seller had a pic of the "about phone" screen with the model #XT-1564 listed. I couldn't find any information anywhere on this specific model. I purchased it after talking with T-mobile and they Guaranteed it would work on their system with no issues...
Any ideas?
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I just purchase a Moto X Play on Swappa and it was listed in the XT1562 group but the seller had a pic of the "about phone" screen with the model #XT-1564 listed. I couldn't find any information anywhere on this specific model. I purchased it after talking with T-mobile and they Guaranteed it would work on their system with no issues...
Any ideas?
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A quick Google search and found this
Moto X Play美国LRA单卡版XT1564 Android 5.1.1全新LPD23.118-25官方底包
文件名X_Play_XT1564_LUX_LRA_5.1.1_LPD23.118-25_cid9_CFC.xml.zipMD5校验码D6BD187FD24B2D2A184D5ADD7129929B适用机型Motorola XT1564*RETLRACID区域美国 0x09Android 版本Android 5.1.1 Lollipop™Android 版本号LPD23.118-25系统版本Blur_Version.23.21.25.lux_lra.lra.en.US基带版本M8936_2020614.27.03.21.36.03RFSG版本FSG-LUX-02.43Bootloader版本80.E2GPT分区表版本02
Based on the naming of the firmware, this variant is specific to Brightpoint US. Meanwhile XT1565 is specific to Verizon aka Droid Maxx 2.
That's strange since this the Moto X Play wasn't released in the states...
Xt1564 is the variant issued to regional cdma carriers in USA partnered with Verizon under their lra (LTE in rural America) program.
I work for one of the carriers that sells this phone and it's like an unbranded Droid maxx 2 which is what the play is I think? Also the accessories we sell for the phone is branded for Droid maxx 2. We tested this phone to see if gsm unlocked with an AT&T sim and it worked fine LTE and all. Unable to verify for t mobile or band 12 support. Sorry not the best reply but hope this helps those who wonder about this variant.
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Xt1564 is the variant issued to regional cdma carriers in USA partnered with Verizon under their lra (LTE in rural America) program.
I work for one of the carriers that sells this phone and it's like an unbranded Droid maxx 2 which is what the play is I think? Also the accessories we sell for the phone is branded for Droid maxx 2. We tested this phone to see if gsm unlocked with an AT&T sim and it worked fine LTE and all. Unable to verify for t mobile or band 12 support. Sorry not the best reply but hope this helps those who wonder about this variant.
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I was told by T-Mobile this should work without an issue. I'll let you know in the next few days, mine is arriving tomorrow. I'll set it up before I leave the States and then test it in Europe.
Well, set the phone up and used it in Switzerland for a few days. Then came back to the States and have had no issues whatsoever. Great phone with incredible battery life, I would highly recommend!
Yeap device is for Rural America is the one I received here in Puerto Rico factory SIM unlocked single sim 16gb Moto X Play XT1564
I would love to see if this worked on Verizon.
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I would love to see if this worked on Verizon.
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It will, it's originally for Verizon lra partner carriers which run on same network types of Verizon itself. cdma and LTE band 13. Some features native to vzw may not work like VoLTE and stuff though.
Can you speak more on the price or how to get one of these @evilryry ?
Would love to get my hands on a non-bloated Play/Maxx if I could.
My carrier I work for sells full price for like 399, I'm not sure how people can get them outside of the carriers that offer it
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My carrier I work for sells full price for like 399, I'm not sure how people can get them outside of the carriers that offer it
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Interesting. Are you able to say the carrier or provide a website to order? Seems cheaper than a full-price Maxx.
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Interesting. Are you able to say the carrier or provide a website to order? Seems cheaper than a full-price Maxx.
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My carrier I work for, bluegrass cellular, does not sell phones to people who don't have lines of service with us. Can't speak for other carriers. This is a list of carriers partnered with Verizon under their lra partnership, who may carry this phone. Some carriers don't have it.
Bluegrass Cellular; Cross Telephone; Pioneer Cellular; Cellcom; Thumb Cellular; Strata Networks; S and R Communications;*Carolina West; Custer Telephone Cooperative; KPU Telecommunications; Chariton Valley Communication Corporation; Appalachian Wireless; Northwest Missouri Cellular; Chat Mobility; Matanuska Telephone Association; Wireless Partners; Triangle Communications; Nemont; Mid-Rivers Communications and Copper Valley Telecom.
Thanks for the lead @evilryry Looks like the prospects of buying one outright are pretty low after searching a few websites - I need to live in a service area AND sign up for service. It's no wonder they lock down what is nearly a perfect phone hardware wise to specific location services/carriers.
If you find a way to get one, please put me on the short list of people who really want one.
mtoomey79 said:
Thanks for the lead @evilryry Looks like the prospects of buying one outright are pretty low after searching a few websites - I need to live in a service area AND sign up for service. It's no wonder they lock down what is nearly a perfect phone hardware wise to specific location services/carriers.
If you find a way to get one, please put me on the short list of people who really want one.
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Not sure if allowed to post on XDA so sorry if against rules,
Found one on eBay if you were interested still.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=262275915662&alt=web
Thanks @evilryry just what I needed.
i bought a moto x play 1563 and the seller send me this phone... xt1564. any one knows the networks works? i need to know if works on 4g band4 and 3g in argentina... i dont want to open it. so i have to reurn it if not work
argertina bands
2G: 850 / 1900
3G: 850 / 1900
4G: Banda 4 (AWS, 1700) / Banda 28 (APT700, 700 MHz*)