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Does anyone have an expected release date for this yet? I may be moving from the UK to the US soon so just wondering what to get and where to get it!
HTC insn't going into full scale production untill autumn.
And it's usefullness in the USA wil be somewhat limited.
It only has Tri band GSM so will be incompatible with some networks, also the 3G radio is a different standard in the USA to the Euro 3G - CDMA V W-CDMA I believe, but I'm sure someone will highlight what the acronym is. Thats why no USA networks have expressed any desire to release the Universal - maybe there will be another model bought out for the USA markets...
There will be a USA release eventually. HTC would be stupid to not make a version of the Universal that worked well in the USA.
There's lots of speculation on various message boards that HTC has already created a USA version of the Universal. Supposedly, it's being called "Apache" while it's still in testing.
There are lots of people in the USA using HTC devices right now. I can't imagine HTC deciding not to accept anymore money from those USA customers.
Pretty much everyone with an HTC device (or any other brand of Pocket PC for that matter) will give the Universal serious consideration when it's released. If HTC just ignored them, well that would not be a sound business decision.
Expect a version of the Universal to be released in the USA for use on the new EVDO networks (Sprint and Verizon).
Now Sprint and Verizon may decide not to carry the device, but I fully expect HTC to at least offer it to them.
do sprint and verizon even offer gsm(sim) cards? i bought my jam from dubai when i was over there for summer vacation and now i'm using it with cingular. and if the device is released in the US it would be a while after its released in the UK and rest of the world. If you haven't noticed USA is really behind in the cell phone market.
USA may be behind in the cell phone market, but all of the previous HTC products were released in the USA, so I don't see why the Universal would be any different.
The Wizard will be released in the USA, so why not the Universal? I could definitely see HTC ,aking a version for the USA. And probably making a CDMA version as well.
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Sorry Guys, But Cellphone Networks in USA sux! Your mobile phone carries got the "older model" planns to sell devices. Europe and Asia is at leats 5 years advanced than USA.
Here in Brazil GSM Networks are since 2002 so we got euro carriers with new terminals, 3G is already here.
HTC is preparing a special edition for you guys
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What are you talking about? USA networks may be behind, in general, but both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO networks. That is pretty up to date technology.
HTC may very well be preparing a special version, but I highly doubt Brazil is getting anyting more technically advanced than the USA (from HTC at least)...
HTC sent the same Harrier and Blue Angel to the USA that they sent everywhere else. HTC is also sending the same Wizard to the USA that they sent everywhere else. Why should the Universal be any different?
Well, it might be a little different (hopefully it will be made for CDMA/EVDO).
your carriers are well behind the uk and most of the rest of the world-maybe not 5 years though!the universal will be the same as the jam release wise-asia then europe then the us.just a shame your carriers are so slow that they cannot utilise the new technology the universal bringsand what is with using a different frequency (850) is it just to be awkward?!lol.l have no doubts the universal will be available everywhere including the us
First off, I have to say that the Apache is not a CDMA version of the universal. Rather, it is a CDMA version of the wizard.
Second, yes the USA networks are a little behind the rest of the world. It sucks that we have to wait for new devices months after they have been released to the rest of the world. However, that may be changing. Check out the last couple pages of this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22813&start=125
It is looking more and more like the new 6700 sprint will be releasing is the Apache. Right now the target release date is sometime from August to October. This would be amazing because it would be (as far as I know) the first 5.0 device released anywhere. It would be released in the US before Europe and Asia, and it would even be release before the wizard was released anywhere.
So maybe the US is catching up. Here's hoping
The USA networks are not lagging behind Europe and Asia. At least not all of them. Again, both Sprint and Verizon have EVDO networks. That is not lagging in any way. EVDO is a 3G technology, and it fully supports all the features on any of todays cell phones (even the Universal). The only thing is the networks are CDMA. But CDMA is not lagging behing the rest of the world either.
Actaully saltydawg, only verizon has EV-DO right now. Sprint won't be lauch there's till the end of the year. We should start seeing EV-DO phones coming out soon though.
As for what I said abou the USA being behind, that was mainly in reference to the delay in getting new phones to the US.
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Sprint does have EVDO right now man. Currently the only devices that officially support it are laptop data cards. People have got it working on their PPC-6600's as well though.
But yes, we should start seeing lots more EVDO devices released soon...
You have got to be kidding me if you think US networks do not lag behind European networks. By the time we get something new, Europe is already moved on to the next best thing. We are at least 2-3 if not 5-7 years behind.
SaltyDawg,
That makes more sense. I guess they just aren't really promoting that. It's pretty cool that some of the 6600s have got that to work though. There is supposed to be an official sprint update for the 6600 coming out in october I think.
Zach
We can argue all day about whether or not the US lags behind in mobile network technology. Whan I can say is that when US carriers decide to go with a technology, it does take awhile to rollout.
HOWEVER, let's think about this. All of the countries we're being compared to are approx 10% of the size of the US. Individual European countries and their respective carriers have NO IDEA what a rollout in the US takes in terms of material, resources, and most importantly, money. Even the whole of Europe doesn't compare in size to the Continental USA.
Cut us a break, guys...
GSM Technology in the US
well, you can argue all day about this but i would say that the US is way behind but we've been catching up some how ... the three main countries which keep on using CDMA is the US, Japan& Korea ... so if anybody really wants a really good phone for the verizon and sprint networks just look at what's available in japan ... they actually have 8.0Mp camera phones out ... while everybody's working on catching up here in the US ... Verizon is actually owned by VODAFONE that is why verizon was first in coming out with 3G with the help of their cousins across the pond ... which i am wondering why t-mobile doesn't use their connection being t-mobile ... the largest global wireless company (they have service in most of the countries in the industrialized world ... they even have dibs on singtel which is one of the powerful wireless carriers in asia) ...
t-mobile usa and t-mobile uk don't even work together (as per comment by one of the tech support people from t-mobile usa) ... i was trying to set up blackberry connect on my Sony Ericsson P910i which was from T-Mobile UK but our friends from T-Mobile US told me that they can't assist me ... so i ended up doing it myself ... as usual ....
hopefully the US gets hold of more phones, marketing somewhat sucks y'know ... i guess it's all about the blackberry over here in the US .... which, personally has an ugly interface and worse conventional phones which are almost as expensive as Palm, Pocket PC, and Symbian devices ...
Well the bottom line is not all USA networks a lagging way behind Europe and Asia. At least not anymore. Sprint and Verizon both have EVDO. EVDO is a 3G technology. So no way can anyone say Sprint and Verizon are lagging way behind Europe and Asia.
Now the phones they release on those networks may be a different story. But again, that has nothing to do with HTC. HTC releases the same phones in the USA that they release in Europe and Asia. So anyone saying HTC won't release the Universal in the USA is not looking at the recent history. And anyone saying all USA networks are lagging behind Europe and Asia is not looking at the present. Sprint and Verizon, with their EVDO, specifically.
UMTS in the USA
All I can say is soon, as in September/October UMTS will be deployed in 9 major cities in the US. The carrier in question already has a re-branded BlueAngel for sale. Word from marketing is that shortly after UMTS is deployed they will start carrying one of the re-branded HTC Universal devices .
I was at the AT&T store today and was talking to a sales rep. I am currently with AT&T on family plan and I told him that I was going to cancel my phone (the primary line) to T-Mobile to pick up the DVP.
Well, he told me that a Microsoft rep told him that T-Mobile had a 45 day exclusivity on the DVP starting from the launch date (11/8). Further, the DVP will be on 3 carriers once the exclusivity runs out. Now the speculation on the other two was Verizon and possibly AT&T.
He also said that the 3 WP7 phones at AT&T were under the 45 day exclusivity as well and that other carriers would be carrying the three devices currently at AT&T.
He wasn't sure if and when all this would happen but if in fact AT&T will be getting the DVP soon, I can hold out a bit longer as the only reason I was planning on switching to Tmo was for the DVP.
Don't mean to start a wild rumor thread but thought I share what I heard and would like to know if others have heard something similar.
Happy Holidays...
Thats interesting news.
I'm on AT&T too and planning to move to TMobile just for this phone. Hope you're right.
That's good news. I currently have a Focus but still miss a hardware keyboard. 45 Days would put it right after the holiday season which would allow carriers to make their money before the agreement ends. Let's hope this is true.
I hope someone will be able to enable tethering on the DVP and that will be perfect.
lies that carriers tell you to keep you. dont know for sure tho
i rather have dvp with webos or android. wp7, ill wait till 2nd or 3rd gen
c_legaspi said:
lies that carriers tell you to keep you. dont know for sure tho
i rather have dvp with webos or android. wp7, ill wait till 2nd or 3rd gen
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Agreed. I have some doubts that something like this will actuall happen. Nevertheless, I'll give it some time - until the reviews of the new and improved launched (part deux) DVPs.
I'm hoping to hear some more from folks who may knowledge or have heard something similar in the meanwhile.
Would be nice, but I wouldn't hold my breath on this one. If it were true, that would put us 2 weeks out and this would be the first real rumor I've heard. Things like this tend to get leaked in advance. Kind of telling that there hasn't been any FCC filings for the additional radio flavors either. We can still cross our fingers though.
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Would be nice, but I wouldn't hold my breath on this one. If it were true, that would put us 2 weeks out and this would be the first real rumor I've heard. Things like this tend to get leaked in advance. Kind of telling that there hasn't been any FCC filings for the additional radio flavors either. We can still cross our fingers though.
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maybe thats the Dell Venue?
the one with android and without the keyboard?
Another clue might be a statement from Greg Milligan of Microsoft Canada: “the first manufacturers are LG, Samsung, HTC, we’ll have those available here in Canada. We also see Dell coming into the market as well and some other manufacturers in 2011”. (http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/11/29/m...ices-with-hardware-keyboard-coming-to-canada/)
In Canada, AT&T frequencies are dominant right now: ever since Bell and Telus stopped expanding their CDMA network and built an all-3G UMTS/HSPA+ national network on 850/1900, pretty much all their new 3G devices are GSM. Add that to Rogers' existing 850/1900 GSM/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA+ network, and you're looking at AT&T frequency compatibility from our three biggest national carriers. They all launched AT&T-compatible Windows Phone 7 devices last month.
The new "urban" carriers - Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron - are running AWS in major cities. But none of these carriers have launched any WP7 devices.
Dell could just launch the DVP in its current configuration on Wind or Mobilicity (or both). It could also launch the DVP as an EDGE-only device on Rogers (very unlikely). Or, it could build a new DVP with 850/1900 3G support and release it on any combination of Rogers, Bell and Telus for a much larger customer base.
was planning to get the t-mobile version, but i am not sure if i should right now
i am on at&t and i dropped my phone in water last week, want a smartphone so bad right now...
Well, it would appear that HTC HD7 may be headed to AT&T. If so, perhaps this will mean that other "exclusive" phones will find it's way to other carriers. One can only hope...
If Canada gets them, I think we'd be in good shape either way. Their bands are fully compatible, so I wouldn't mind plunking down a few dollars more to get it. However, it would have to be unlocked so that might be an issue (hopefully a short one).
Can't wait!
I had my doubts about this, but it seems quite possible. The FCC has approved two models of the Dell Venue Pro:
FCC ID: E2KV03B002
(https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...me=N&application_id=218753&fcc_id='E2KV03B002')
3G band tested: AWS
FCC ID: E2KV03B001
(https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...me=N&application_id=425269&fcc_id='E2KV03B001')
3G bands tested: 850/1900
Note: as far as I can tell, these documents don't preclude the "B001" version from also supporting European 3G on 2100 MHz, since the FCC didn't test the 900/2100 euro bands on the "B002" but we know it has them anyway.
It would only make sense that this would happen.
Dell would be crazy to limit their handsets to the smallest Mobile Carrier in terms of subscribers. Giving Tmobile a leg up is okay but to give it the whole leg would be silly.
I would take the HD7 on the AT&T network as I returned by HD7 on the T-MOBILE network due to signal issues.
I would like to have it on the Sprint Network but that isn't happening anytime soon. I do not like the HD PRO they have rumored to get WP7.
The DVP or the HD7 will be my choices for now. a 4.3" S_LCD on the HD7 would be great/
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Just for the record, 45 days after the 8th of November would be December 23, 2010.
I'll be checking back on that day (and probably sooner, anyway).
I am also anticipating the DVP. :] I'll be waiting for AT&T.
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Well, given recent news of the delay yet again, I wonder if:
1) At this rate, the DVP will be available on AT&T at the same time as T-Mobile
or
2) This is vaporware and never make it to AT&T
Utterly disappointed with Dell....
Just got this link from MS
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/7/phones.aspx?cmpid=14303401#detail=1568 and was wondering if these bands will work on AT&T. Anyone know?
hmm.....
it only state UMTS 900 and 2100, which are the frequency the rest of the world use
it didn't even state AWS or 1700
interesting
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Well, three days left (actually, it may be four days, since the 23rd may be the 45th day).
Just for the record, I did a Google search to check for any updates and found this:
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Windows-Phone-7-Dell-Venue-Pro-Headed-to-ATandT-895659/
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It appears that the eweek article is a collection of blog posts on this topic.
With regards to the 45-day, I'm guessing that we won't hear anything until the new year until the holiday shopping period is over.
Amazon says the atrix can be shipped to outside the US
Does it mean it is unlocked?
No contract price is $599
Is it the same one as the $499 in the ATT Store?
(some thread says ATT's no-contract price is 499 or 399?)
Thanks
i can't find no-contract atrix on amazon.
go to amazonwireless.com and go to the atrix. It has options on the left for Phone Only no contract. Which adds it to the cart for $599.99. Since it's labeled AT&T it is the same phone in the same AT&T box. This most likely means it is locked to AT&T at the moment.
Even if you buy instore then price will $550 anyways with tax and all.
interested to know as well
the phone is locked to at&t.
Does anyone know where I can get it unlock if I buy the phone outright.
i bought it online without contract from at&t store for 531 with taxes
was it unlocked tho (can use with another sim card)
AT&T probably won't sell it unlocked out of the box, this has been discussed in many threads. You'll have to get the unlock code from a seller(online) or call up AT&T and tell them you're going to a foreign country and need an unlock code(This has apparently worked great for previous phones).
Does the Atrix 4G support WCDMA 2100 MHz?
I am located in Germany and wanna buy Atrix 4G. My friend is coming from US in March end so I can ask him to bring it for him. I am just not sure if the Atrix 4G supports the 2100 Mhz WCDMA band.
The Motorola website mentions in its technical specifications for the Atrix 4G dat it supports WCDMA 2100 Mhz. hxxp://yyy.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/ci.Motorola-ATRIX-US-EN.alt
But the same cannot be confirmed in the AT&T website and in the other online vendors as Amazon. hxxp://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B004KZP4BQ
I really wanna have this phone. But I want to have the 3G/UMTS/HSPA working here.
Thanks and Regards
Anupam
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anupash said:
I am located in Germany and wanna buy Atrix 4G. My friend is coming from US in March end so I can ask him to bring it for him. I am just not sure if the Atrix 4G supports the 2100 Mhz WCDMA band.
The Motorola website mentions in its technical specifications for the Atrix 4G dat it supports WCDMA 2100 Mhz. hxxp://yyy.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/ci.Motorola-ATRIX-US-EN.alt
But the same cannot be confirmed in the AT&T website and in the other online vendors as Amazon. hxxp://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B004KZP4BQ
I really wanna have this phone. But I want to have the 3G/UMTS/HSPA working here.
Thanks and Regards
Anupam
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i would like to know this too
I'm currently in Hong Kong and their 3G band is 2100mhz as well
GSMarena lists the Atrix 4G to have 3G 850/1900/2100
but on Walmart/Amazon it lists it only as 3G 850/1900
can anyone confirm?
if its truly a tri-band 3G phone, i would buy those phone outright from amazon right now
Thanks for any input!
Keep in mind that with an AT&T exclusive it will be monts before they offer an unlock. And even the unlocking services could not unlock the Samsung Captivate for months.
Firstly, does buying the no contract phone from Amazon, might still be not usable on other networks.
Secondly, I was digging on the AT&T website it offers a "no commitment pricing" of 499$. Should I still be worried because I wanna use the phone in Germany?
I have no idea how the US cellular plans work, so a bit of insight would be helpful.
anupash said:
Firstly, does buying the no contract phone from Amazon, might still be not usable on other networks.
Secondly, I was digging on the AT&T website it offers a "no commitment pricing" of 499$. Should I still be worried because I wanna use the phone in Germany?
I have no idea how the US cellular plans work, so a bit of insight would be helpful.
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Judging by what other people say $499 will get you the phone without any contract... you will not have to pay AT&T a monthly fee.
BUT! because this phone is currently exclusive to AT&T it will only work with their SIM cards until it is unlocked. This process took several months for the Samsung Captivate... so at the moment there is no way to guarantee that the phone you buy will be able to use your SIM card.
Does anyone know whether the 3G modem in the Xoom sold in the US uses a SIM? I can purchase one in the US with no contract & intend to use it in Australia with a local carrier's SIM.
However I can't work out whether it's SIM based?
The Xoom on Verizon cannot be used in Australia, as it is a CDMA device. The Wi-Fi Xoom presumably can, however.
(A compatible UMTS Xoom will be released somewhere soon, however)
I just read this. May be the news you're looking for.
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-and-telstra-plan-send-xoom-down-under
If its delayed you still have hope with the AT&T flavor, just passed by the FCC offices.
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/04/19/motorola-xoom-tablet-for-att-fcc-filing/
Thanks all, May is just around the corner, we have a corporate account with Telstra so I'll try & nab one as soon as they hit!
Saves a lot of stuffing around!
[Official] US Cellular Samsung Galaxy S III Info/Pre-Order/Chat Thread
This thread is for all users on US Celluar.
Please post here if you are going to get it/sell your phone to purchase it?
It seems to be on the website now. Pre order starts June 12 online
Website Link: Email Signup: http://social.uscellular.com/
Online Order: http://www.uscellular.com/uscellula...ge+Hero+Slide+1-_-USCC+Home+Page+Hero+Slide+1
I will be getting it when it is released, sounds like some time in July. I hope US cellular uses similiar software as the other carriers. I have the s2 and is rooted, but not much else is compatible so hopefully the s3 will have more options once rooted as the other carriers. US cellular is the only carrier in my area with 4g service, so that is why I am staying with us cellular, why pay for a 4g phone if you cant utilize 4g I figure
US Cellular Pricing
Samsung Galaxy S® III - Blue 16GB $199.99 after $100 mail-in rebate
Samsung Galaxy S® III - White 16GB $199.99 after $100 mail-in rebate
Samsung Galaxy S® III - White 32GB $249.99 after $100 mail-in rebate
WEB-ONLY PRE-ORDER:
Pre-order the Samsung GALAXY S® III online today. This device is scheduled to ship approximately 4-6 weeks from pre-sale start date (June 12, 2012). Customer's credit card will be charged within 72 hours of customer placing the order. Completed mail-in rebate forms for Samsung GALAXY S® III pre-order customers will be honored if received by U.S. Cellular® prior to December 18, 2012.
Does that mean that only the pre-order customer will get the rebate? Six weeks from today means the phone should be shipping by July 24
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GGerk said:
I will be getting it when it is released, sounds like some time in July. I hope US cellular uses similiar software as the other carriers. I have the s2 and is rooted, but not much else is compatible so hopefully the s3 will have more options once rooted as the other carriers. US cellular is the only carrier in my area with 4g service, so that is why I am staying with us cellular, why pay for a 4g phone if you cant utilize 4g I figure
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I have researched the various carriers and offerings for a yr or so anticipating a new phone upgrade myself. US Cellualar uses CDMA technology for the service which is the lesser used of the 2 in the USA. The other is GSM, which constitutes 70% of the market here. I currently have a I Wireless Galaxy Vibrant S which is a partner of T-Mobile. This is GSM based and has had quite an extensive ROM development on xda. I have checked the CDMA US Cellular models on xda and have found none. I checked other CDMA phones and found some Sprint and Verizon phones. Their coverage lacks in my area. Do not hope for development on xda on a US Cellualar version of the SIII. I hope I'm wrong. Although, due to coverage issues, I may still be getting the US Cellualar SIII. My second choise is AT & T which also is a GSM carrier, but coverage in my 2 areas of need is worse than US cellualar. Good luck.
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I have researched the various carriers and offerings for a yr or so anticipating a new phone upgrade myself. US Cellualar uses GSM technology for the service which is the lesser used of the 2 in the USA. The other is CDMA, which constitutes 70% of the market here. I currently have a I Wireless Galaxy Vibrant S which is a partner of T-Mobile. This is CDMA based and has had quite an extensive ROM development on xda. I have checked the GSM US Cellular models on xda and have found none. I checked other GSM phones and found very few here. The market share is so small that there is little development on GSM phones save some Sprint phones (Sprint also uses GSM). Therefore, do not hope for development on xda on a US Cellualar version of the SIII. I hope I'm wrong. Due to coverage issues, I may be getting the US Cellualar SIII. My second choise is AT & T which also is a CDMA carrier, but coverage in my 2 areas of need is worse than US cellualar. Good luck.
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Are you sure that US Cellular is GSM? They are a CDMA carrier, I believe you have facts incorrect
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Are you sure that US Cellular is GSM? They are a CDMA carrier, I believe you have facts incorrect
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Reverse all my comments concerning GSM and CDMA in the quoted text. I got mixed up. I edited the original post. Thanks dzonzik.
Here's the carriers and their technology types:
CDMA: Alltel, Sprint, U.S. Cellular, Verizon
GSM: AT&T, T-Mobile
iDEN: Nextel
But, xda has not been a ROM developer for US Cellular phones. Some Verizon and Sprint though.
dbethards said:
Reverse all my comments concerning GSM and CDMA in the quoted text. I got mixed up. I edited the original post. Thanks dzonzik.
Here's the carriers and their technology types:
CDMA: Alltel, Sprint, U.S. Cellular, Verizon
GSM: AT&T, T-Mobile
iDEN: Nextel
But, xda has not been a ROM developer for US Cellular phones. Some Verizon and Sprint though.
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Best place to look for android development besides here is:
http://www.rootzwiki.com
You could also check out www.teamuscellular.com.
Talked with a US Cellular store Rep and she related it should be coming out around 9 July