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It may be here soon....The Note

Engadget has a great teaser up today for those of us in the US awaiting the AT&T release

I don't understand... how is this any more significant than it going through the FCC the first time (back in September)? The only difference seems to be that it now has a slightly ammended model#.

I see it as progress, that htye have renumbered it. Hopefully in the first quarter, second quarter would be ok, too.....I can wait

GTFO with that kind of news. It is depressing to read that from a T-Mobile perspective!

The 1700/2100 banding version is due out in Korea anytime no worries

Damn, looks like we'll have to wait even longer for the LTE version.

Boo... I was sick of waiting so I got the GSII. If it comes out in like 2 1/2 weeks then I will eat the 35$ restocking fee... but I dont see that happening. Oh well, guess Ill just stick with a slightly less awesome phone

Great news. And I frankly don't care if it's not LTE capable. I just hope they don't make a hardware change that affects performance.

I just wish they would put it out already and make it compatible with t-mobile. I am so sick of Samsung and their BS. Why is every US release involving them such a mess?

I was hoping this was gonna be news about ICS Oh well, I am having fun playing with my galaxy note now

A few things to note here.
1. There's no showing of this most recent version (GT-N7000B) having the 700MHz capability, which means AT&T 2G/3G only, no 4G LTE.
2. As we've seen with the GT-N7003, if/when they DO offer an LTE version it will be with a the Snapdragon 1.5GHz (8255T) chip...Which has the INFERIOR (as compared to the Mali 400MP in the Exynos version) Adreno 205 GPU!!!
I don't get the thinking with using an older generation Adreno 205 with a monstrous 5.3" 1280x800 rez phone?? That's like throwing a Ford Escort engine under the hood of a Hummer body (alright, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but still... For a screen/rez on the Note, it seems you'd want the best possible GPU driving it).
The 1700/2100 banding version is due out in Korea anytime no worries
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Huh? Am I missing something? I've been reading it's out in S. Korea in the LTE/Snapdragon flavor....Where are you hearing 1700/2100?

This is great news only if AT&T puts the Note in their system. Big question is is it a tablet or a phone AT&T must be having real problems figuring this out! What will happen if they put this in their system, will a European version then show up and be able to get an APN automatically downloaded to the phone?

I really hope they figure out how to keep the Exynos and not drop in the Snapdragon to enable LTE compatibility. The original GS2 is just so much snappier than the Snapdragon Skyrocket.

bigmout said:
Great news. And I frankly don't care if it's not LTE capable. I just hope they don't make a hardware change that affects performance.
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exactly what I was thinking

Namuna said:
Huh? Am I missing something? I've been reading it's out in S. Korea in the LTE/Snapdragon flavor....Where are you hearing 1700/2100?
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I think Korea uses CDMA 1700/2100 bands.

n25philly said:
I just wish they would put it out already and make it compatible with t-mobile. I am so sick of Samsung and their BS. Why is every US release involving them such a mess?
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Why is that necessarily Samsung's fault?
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1. There's no showing of this most recent version (GT-N7000B) having the 700MHz capability, which means AT&T 2G/3G only, no 4G LTE.
2. As we've seen with the GT-N7003, if/when they DO offer an LTE version it will be with a the Snapdragon 1.5GHz (8255T) chip...Which has the INFERIOR (as compared to the Mali 400MP in the Exynos version) Adreno 205 GPU!!!
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My fear of an eventual AT&T release being LTE (and therefore getting slower hardware) is why I went ahead and ordered an international version (before today, not realizing that AT&T would release a non LTE version). I'd love to have LTE, but not at the expense of the slower hardware.

Its AT&T, enjoy your anal plundering... and still ranked WORST of the carriers in customer satisfaction...
TMobile, or Verizon and ill Pre order the thing (oh, and sans the ****ty snapdragon)

dscline said:
Why is that necessarily Samsung's fault?
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I don't know, maybe because they make the phone? Then again going out of your way to not have customers seems to make sense in the cell phone business for some reason.

I have been perfectly happy with AT&T for many, many years (I predate the Cingular years, back to original AT&T). I don't care about 4G or LTE, I just want the Note in my hands sooner rather than later. I certainly hope they class it as a phone, if they don't, then I'll bitterly move onto the SGS II or whatever snazzy new phone is out at that time.

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I don't know, maybe because they make the phone?
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Seems to me that Tmobile would have to be interested in carrying it for Samsung to be intersted in making it. Samsung can't count on a significant number of Tmobile customers buying an already niche phone unsubsidized.

[Q] Next Freedom phone

Nexus One was appealing because it was stock and no bloatware. Now that Verizon has ruined the Nexus Galaxy, what phone should I get?
I would stick with my N1, but the touchscreen issues really slow down my typing and the light sensor has gone bad. I'm Tmobile and obviously willing to pay for unlocked phones and/or rooting to CM. Native-battery-percentage-4-life
Amaze 4g
Samsung SII

Maybe the Galaxy S2 LTE or whatever it's called?
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The Verizon one?
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hebetude said:
The Verizon one?
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Uhm, I'm really not that familiar with service operators over in the united states, seeing as I'm from beyond the ocean. Sweden, actually, if you didn't notice the flag
I've heard mostly good about T-mobile, so maybe you ought to buy one of their phones?
But I've heard rumors saying the LTE will only be released here in Europe.

hebetude said:
Nexus One was appealing because it was stock and no bloatware. Now that Verizon has ruined the Nexus Galaxy, what phone should I get?
I would stick with my N1, but the touchscreen issues really slow down my typing and the light sensor has gone bad. I'm Tmobile and obviously willing to pay for unlocked phones and/or rooting to CM. Native-battery-percentage-4-life
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Samsung SII
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Galaxy note is very tempting, that or wait until next batch of phones with quad core, GS3 or other. I am probably going to cave and just get the GS2, it is a beautiful device even with the lower resolution.

Yeah ces is next week. I think I will be waiting as well
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But I've heard rumors saying the LTE will only be released here in Europe.
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I am beyond the ocean as well, but I believe LTE versions are typically only for CDMA based phones. So Verizon in the states uses LTE. GSM phones are the more common worldwide versions.
And to the OP, you can get a non-Verizon Galaxy Nexus, as long as you import it. As far as I am still aware, there are still no GSM versions of the Galaxy Nexus available in the states (at least through any carriers, some places may have imported them from Europe).
I too am eagerly awaiting CES. I am eligible for my upgrade with T-Mobile US in February (I am in a unique situation with them with me being overseas), and I hope they get something like the Galaxy Nexus but with a sdcard slot. I don't get why they wouldn't put that in there

To make it simple for simple like the kindle and iphone
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hebetude said:
Nexus One was appealing because it was stock and no bloatware.
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Actually, I got it because I knew it would get the dev-love. I've been on custom roms since the day I got it (mostly CM). Stock Android is just as boring to me as bloatware would've been annoying to me - either way I don't have root.
Want to get a GN but are worried about bloatware? Get it and get a custom rom - it's so obvious what to do with a Nexus.

Hands on an ATT Note

I checked to see if anyone had posted this but didnt notice any other threads. A guy over at the skyrocket forum got his hands on an ATT note to take some pics and run some benchmarks. Im satisfied with the results and will be picking up on launch day. Please dont make this thread, "Oh my exynos is better than your snapdragon" yeah we know. And your house is bigger, wife is hotter, car is faster, and your... Ill stop there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462622

imitenotbecrazy said:
I checked to see if anyone had posted this but didnt notice any other threads. A guy over at the skyrocket forum got his hands on an ATT note to take some pics and run some benchmarks. Im satisfied with the results and will be picking up on launch day. Please dont make this thread, "Oh my exynos is better than your snapdragon" yeah we know. And your house is bigger, wife is hotter, car is faster, and your... Ill stop there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1462622
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Thanks for sharing this! After my experience with the whole GS2, Skyrocket arguments (I tested both well prior to release, and we all knowthe drama between the two) I didn't really want to stir anything up in here haha.
I have no first hand experience with the overseas version so I wouldn't dare to compare them.
I looked for a Att specific subforum but it seems they have not created one yet.
This guy is a good friend of mine, so if there are any other tests etc that people want me to run just let me know and I will do my best to do so.

My Exynos is better than your Snapdragon.
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And your house is bigger, wife is hotter, car is faster...
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You've met my wife? Oh, and how did you know I put a turbocharger in my car? Most people can't tell off the track (and the engine is loud enough to keep you from hearing it spin up.)
Seriously, though, I'd be more concerned about having an AT&T locked phone than the Snapdragon processor. To take the processor out the equation, compare the GSII (i9100) to the AT&T version (i777) of the same phone. Same processor in both.
The AT&T version's radio is missing an entire band, the updates from at&t/samsung are lacking, etc. The i9100 already has an announced date of ICS for Q1, while at&t/samsung might never release ICS for the i777 (of course, the community will port it over from the i9100 once the sound driver and keypad issues are resolved, but that's not the point.)
I live in the US, and my carrier is AT&T. Today, I ordered the N7000. If AT&T's version also had an exynos and was available today, I'd still have ordered the N7000. The carrier already has me in thrall for wireless service - I don't want them ruining my phone as well.
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Gary

Well said.
But isn't rooting and porting why most of us are here anyway?
Like I said above ...I have not tried to compare the two nor do I care to as I won't get either. If one does import the n7000 do they get lte in the us?
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You've met my wife? Oh, and how did you know I put a turbocharger in my car? Most people can't tell off the track (and the engine is loud enough to keep you from hearing it spin up.)
Seriously, though, I'd be more concerned about having an AT&T locked phone than the Snapdragon processor. To take the processor out the equation, compare the GSII (i9100) to the AT&T version (i777) of the same phone. Same processor in both.
The AT&T version's radio is missing an entire band, the updates from at&t/samsung are lacking, etc. The i9100 already has an announced date of ICS for Q1, while at&t/samsung might never release ICS for the i777 (of course, the community will port it over from the i9100 once the sound driver and keypad issues are resolved, but that's not the point.)
I live in the US, and my carrier is AT&T. Today, I ordered the N7000. If AT&T's version also had an exynos and was available today, I'd still have ordered the N7000. The carrier already has me in thrall for wireless service - I don't want them ruining my phone as well.
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Gary
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garyd9 said:
You've met my wife? Oh, and how did you know I put a turbocharger in my car? Most people can't tell off the track (and the engine is loud enough to keep you from hearing it spin up.)
Seriously, though, I'd be more concerned about having an AT&T locked phone than the Snapdragon processor. To take the processor out the equation, compare the GSII (i9100) to the AT&T version (i777) of the same phone. Same processor in both.
The AT&T version's radio is missing an entire band, the updates from at&t/samsung are lacking, etc. The i9100 already has an announced date of ICS for Q1, while at&t/samsung might never release ICS for the i777 (of course, the community will port it over from the i9100 once the sound driver and keypad issues are resolved, but that's not the point.)
I live in the US, and my carrier is AT&T. Today, I ordered the N7000. If AT&T's version also had an exynos and was available today, I'd still have ordered the N7000. The carrier already has me in thrall for wireless service - I don't want them ruining my phone as well.
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Gary
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Haha mmmmm turbo.
I definitely agree that the restrictions/unnecessary additions ATT puts on their phones sucks (Ive ran Rogers roms for the last couple phones I've had) it really is just more of a continence thing for me. I work for best buy so I get a pretty good discount on phones and also just trade in or have my current phone serviced so I rarely pay for a phone. I also break phones pretty often (too much partying) so having a local and reliable warranty (again best buy) is huge to me
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00mred00 said:
But isn't rooting and porting why most of us are here anyway?
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Perhaps, but the AT&T versions of phones tend to have hardware incompatibilities with other phones. For example, the sound libs on the i777 aren't compatible with the i9100. Unless AT&T decides to let samsung do an ICS version for the i777, the i777 may never have optimal audio. The folks working on porting CM9 to the i777 are basically having to start from scratch to write a new driver for the audio libs... not an easy task. Similar idea for the keypad support.
Like I said above ...I have not tried to compare the two nor do I care to as I won't get either. If one does import the n7000 do they get lte in the us?
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No. The N7000 lacks any LTE compatible radio. Of course, unless you live in one of only a dozen specific cities, you don't get LTE anyway. AT&T is pushing LTE phones for all it's worth, but doesn't seem to be putting the same effort into making LTE service available. One should also weigh the downfall of current LTE phones as well: battery life. If the AT&T variant of the note has the same size battery, expect the battery life to be somewhere between 20% (if the LTE radio is in use) and 80% (if there's no LTE signal) of the normal note. (This is purely a guess on my part based on my experience with the AT&T SII Skyrocket compared to the AT&T SII)
On the other hand, the N7000 (unlike any AT&T specific variant) will work on the other US GSM provider (tmobile.)
Yes, there are differences between the exynos and snapdragon S3. They've been beaten to death in other forums many times over. Exynos is usually faster, clock for clock, than the other currently available chips. HOWEVER, it doesn't support the newest generation of wireless radios (LTE.) It has other flaws as well (such as the long time to come out of suspend.)
I guess it comes down to this (in regards to the Note): If you use AT&T as a carrier, don't mind an AT&T hobbled phone (or can work around it) and LTE is very important (and available) to you, get the AT&T version. Otherwise, do some serious research before deciding - you might decide that spending the extra money for an unlocked phone (with no warranty) is worthwhile.
Does anyone know if AT&T has announced ICS plans for their version of the Note? (Preferably something more specific than their skyrocket announcement - which was only that the i727 would get it eventually...)
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Gary

Sorry but the Note doesn't work on T-Mobile. Unless you count awful, slow 2g.
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Hell they never give any concrete info regarding updates. The guys at Samsung here in Dallas claim it's Att and not them.
I am slightly biased on Att since I live in a strong LTE market. I was pretty certain they have been rolling out at least three cities a month since about November but I don't watch it ..I already have it haha.
I looked at the i9000 back before I even knew about the skyrocket and really regret not picking up one I found in a local resale shop...I was all set to buy the US version when I found out about the skyrocket and after testing LTE I had to have it.
It really is a case by case basis. If I didn't have LTE I really wouldn't care for the Skyrocket or any other LTE device like you pointed out.
Another bias I have is pricing. Utilizing multiple lines (6), rotating upgrades, and taking advantage of best buy's buy back program I don't actually pay anything for my phones haha
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Perhaps, but the AT&T versions of phones tend to have hardware incompatibilities with other phones. For example, the sound libs on the i777 aren't compatible with the i9100. Unless AT&T decides to let samsung do an ICS version for the i777, the i777 may never have optimal audio. The folks working on porting CM9 to the i777 are basically having to start from scratch to write a new driver for the audio libs... not an easy task. Similar idea for the keypad support.No. The N7000 lacks any LTE compatible radio. Of course, unless you live in one of only a dozen specific cities, you don't get LTE anyway. AT&T is pushing LTE phones for all it's worth, but doesn't seem to be putting the same effort into making LTE service available. One should also weigh the downfall of current LTE phones as well: battery life. If the AT&T variant of the note has the same size battery, expect the battery life to be somewhere between 20% (if the LTE radio is in use) and 80% (if there's no LTE signal) of the normal note. (This is purely a guess on my part based on my experience with the AT&T SII Skyrocket compared to the AT&T SII)
On the other hand, the N7000 (unlike any AT&T specific variant) will work on the other US GSM provider (tmobile.)
Yes, there are differences between the exynos and snapdragon S3. They've been beaten to death in other forums many times over. Exynos is usually faster, clock for clock, than the other currently available chips. HOWEVER, it doesn't support the newest generation of wireless radios (LTE.) It has other flaws as well (such as the long time to come out of suspend.)
I guess it comes down to this (in regards to the Note): If you use AT&T as a carrier, don't mind an AT&T hobbled phone (or can work around it) and LTE is very important (and available) to you, get the AT&T version. Otherwise, do some serious research before deciding - you might decide that spending the extra money for an unlocked phone (with no warranty) is worthwhile.
Does anyone know if AT&T has announced ICS plans for their version of the Note? (Preferably something more specific than their skyrocket announcement - which was only that the i727 would get it eventually...)
Take care
Gary
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What's the quadrant score on the att note?
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I did not run a quadrant no one seems to use it anymore. i will have him run one for ya though.
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What's the quadrant score on the att note?
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00mred00 said:
Hell they never give any concrete info regarding updates. The guys at Samsung here in Dallas claim it's Att and not them.
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I have to back up Samsung here. I have an International GNote with the CSC DBT, which is Germany (The first country to launch the GNote) and when I got my phone there was one update waiting as soon as I connected to wifi and I have had two others since then. I fully expect to get ICS before the ATT version. ATT is not the best with updates, that is not up for debate.

I'll be interested to see how the 'burn-in' or 'image persistence' problem will hit the Note's screen; it seems to be a pretty prevalent problem in the AMOLED screen type. Have you noticed any issues yet?

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I'll be interested to see how the 'burn-in' or 'image persistence' problem will hit the Note's screen; it seems to be a pretty prevalent problem in the AMOLED screen type. Have you noticed any issues yet?
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I have only seen this on one Samsung phone, and that was an Epic touch on display at Best Buy...
none of ours have shown any signs of this (yet)

Not to place too much emphasis on it, but the Exynos really does perform better than the Snapdragon. This isn't speculative; this is an honest side-by-side comparison. Before the Note, I had a GS-II Skyrocket; which has the same LTE-compatible 1.5GHz Snapdragon as the U.S./AT&T Note. Before I continue, I should point out that the Snapdragon actually overclocks quite well; and at 1.7GHz+, it actually outpaces the Exynos at 1.4GHz. However, the Exynos experience is better... Not faster... Better! For example, a few good Gameloft games will run effortlessly on a Snapdragon device. While others won't run at all. However, any Gameloft (or other 3D game) that won't run on an Exynos, will run on an Exynos with Chainfire and some light tweaking. On the other hand, Chainfire doesn't offer anything to Snapdragon users. It'll install... It'll run... But it won't let you play any additional games. In addition to this, there are a great deal of mods and tweaks which function across all Exynos devices. Because the Exynos is so widely used in international Samsung devices, it has a very large development community. When I had my Skyrocket (which is 99% identical to the T-Mobile GS-II), all anyone ever talked about was running T-Mobile GS-II ROMs on the Skyrocket and vice versa. Whereas Exynos development affects a good number of devices.
Again, not to overemphasize it, but the Exynos is better. When you throw in carrier branding and SIM locks, it seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Any notes on battery life?

Can anyone who has had hands-on time confirm that the ATT version has FM radio?

Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
When you throw in carrier branding and SIM locks, it seems like a no-brainer to me.
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If exynos, barrier branding and SIM locks were the only differences, it might very well be a no-brainer. There are MANY other issues, however. Including, but not limited to, LTE, carrier support and warranty, local availability (in the US), contract pricing, etc.
My personal choice is for the N7000. UPS should be delivering it "any minute now." For others, as has been expressed several times over, there are other considerations.
Sure, my exynos will be faster than their snapdragon. However, if they live in an LTE area, their data speeds will make my exynos-based phone look like an old 110 baud dial-up modem. As well, if my phone breaks, I'm going to be pressed to get it fixed/replaced. AT&T will let you bring it into a store or will cross-ship a replacement. For free.
Gary

Well, you're entitled to your opinion; but as far as network speed goes, AT&T LTE is a joke. I have used AT&T LTE & HSPA+, and HSPA+ is more consistent and more widely available; even if I got up to 20Mbps on LTE. And I average 8-10Mbps on HSPA+. You can call that slow all you want, but we all know better.
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Agreed....LTE speedtests out of this world but realworld tests are not significantly faster.
I've had my Hspa+ (mine's identified by ATT as a Skyrocket) Note (overclocked to 1600) side by side with a cache cleared LTE skyrocket, both with excellent signals, and just downloaded graphic heavy sites side by side...the difference was repeatedly literally negligable, in fact Note was faster more often.
Skyrocket kicks Notes ass on the speedtest tho.
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Well, you're entitled to your opinion; but as far as network speed goes, AT&T LTE is a joke. I have used AT&T LTE & HSPA+, and HSPA+ is more consistent and more widely available; even if I got up to 20Mbps on LTE. And I average 8-10Mbps on HSPA+. You can call that slow all you want, but we all know better.
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[OFFICIAL] SGSIII Hitting 5 US Carriers in June

http://briefmobile.com/galaxy-s-iii-hitting-5-u-s-carriers-starting-in-june#press-release-outside
"Samsung Mobile has just announced that Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and US Cellular will all get the Galaxy S III in June. The company adds, “Exact pricing and retail availability will be announced by each of the five carriers in the coming weeks.”‘ The company said prices will be “starting from $199,” but we are not sure if that price will hold steady on all carriers.
Samsung PR also says that the company plans on “delivering the same iconic smartphone design and premium content sharing experience with AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon Wireless and U.S. Cellular.” That would lead one to believe Samsung is delivering the same design on all carriers and not having a different variant for each."

Best news I've heard, thanks for posting this.. ill have a a verizon sgs3 in my hands no time!

Try not to open new thread every time you read an article. There is already a usa thread

I'm not the USA but I'm glad Samsung is releasing the same model everywhere (CDMA/LTE/4G aside).

So no bloat ware and faster updates. yessss
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pachi72 said:
So no bloat ware and faster updates. yessss
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Of course there will be bloatware lol. It just the outside look of the phone that will remain the same

Is t-mobile getting quad?
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Is t-mobile getting quad?
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Everyone will mostly get s4 dual core because of LTE. Even though tmobile is not LTE their upgraded HSPA+ 42 or whatever speed is only supported by s4. So don't expect to see exynos in any US version.

Samsung Galaxy Note II for T-Mobile

I think this deserves a topic.
According to T-Mo news, a user agent string leaked, possibly indicating that a T-Mobile version of the Note II is on it's way. The model number is SGH-T889, which would make it ten digits higher than the original Note, SGH-T879. The phone is also packing a 1280×720 resolution, and running Android 4.1.
Also, on the T-Mobile S III board here on XDA, another user noted that a minor update to the SGH-T889 is already available on Samsung-Updates website, which means the Note II could be close to launching soon. I'm guessing we'll hear more in the coming weeks.

Third Strike said:
I think this deserves a topic.
According to T-Mo news, a user agent string leaked, possibly indicating that a T-Mobile version of the Note II is on it's way. The model number is SGH-T889, which would make it ten digits higher than the original Note, SGH-T879. The phone is also packing a 1280×720 resolution, and running Android 4.1.
Also, on the T-Mobile S III board here on XDA, another user noted that a minor update to the SGH-T889 is already available on Samsung-Updates website, which means the Note II could be close to launching soon. I'm guessing we'll hear more in the coming weeks.
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Yes I am very excited for T-Mobile version, since the deal with AT&T was cancelled, Tmobile is definitely stepping up with their lines of smart phone The biggest news and rumor would be that Tmo version (I dont know about other carriers) will still carry Exonys quad core! unlike the galaxy s3 where they downgraded the CPU. Now thats very exciting news when any ETA for the galaxy note 2 for TMO? I heard lastest November but I hope they release them in October.

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Yes I am very excited for T-Mobile version, since the deal with AT&T was cancelled, Tmobile is definitely stepping up with their lines of smart phone The biggest news and rumor would be that Tmo version (I dont know about other carriers) will still carry Exonys quad core! unlike the galaxy s3 where they downgraded the CPU. Now thats very exciting news when any ETA for the galaxy note 2 for TMO? I heard lastest November but I hope they release them in October.
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Maybe a little research would tell me this but didn't they switch it in the gs3 so that the gs3 could handle 42 mbps network?
Or was that only for the gs2?
Wouldn't the cpu seeing as its same as the gs3 international one exynos still not be compatible with T-Mobile 42 mbps?
I apologize beforehand if CPUs are actually different.
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To answer a couple of the comments
Yes TMO is confirmed to have the Note2
TMobile will/ is supposed to be converted in ALL of the USA to 1900/2100 banding by 1/1/13 (4 Months) (LTE)
I confirmed that the TMO is a Quad core 2 gig ram w/ 16gig int sd +ext sd.......:fingers-crossed:

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To answer a couple of the comments
Yes TMO is confirmed to have the Note2
TMobile will/ is supposed to be converted in ALL of the USA to 1900/2100 banding by 1/1/13 (4 Months) (LTE)
I confirmed that the TMO is a Quad core 2 gig ram w/ 16gig int sd +ext sd.......:fingers-crossed:
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Do you have a possible release for the Note II, on T-Mobile? Also, assuming you have inside info, do you know if Charlotte will get LTE/1900MHz before next year?

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TMobile will/ is supposed to be converted in ALL of the USA to 1900/2100 banding by 1/1/13 (4 Months) (LTE)
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So that means I could get the International as soon as they come out, pop in my Tmo sim and in 4 months I would have LTE? Until then it would be Edge?
Any idea if it will be a mini or micro sim?

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I'll definitely be selling my s3.. I want this baby so bad..
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Can any of you smart fellas offer an educated guess on what the new line sale price will be? We (my company) will be switching to T-Mobile at the end of this week. I can buy the S3 for $125. I mentioned that I was interested in the Note 2 as well and the rep is offering to let me purchase the Note 2 at the subsidized price when it arrives. He will be getting me a "loaner" for now, if I go that route.
Just trying to weigh out the difference. I have a fairly large phone-nerd streak in me but if I am looking at an additional $250, I may have to scratch my head a bit on the decision. The S3 looks pretty sweet.
Any advice is welcome.
Thanks guys!
(Currently on the S2 on Sprint)

Is there any possiblity that the Note II could come with both HSPA+ and LTE for T-Mobile? It would be nice if it would be able to use LTE after the first of the year when TMO starts it up.

Atmazzz said:
So that means I could get the International as soon as they come out, pop in my Tmo sim and in 4 months I would have LTE? Until then it would be Edge?
Any idea if it will be a mini or micro sim?
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I know this thread has been asleep for a while, but with all the crazyness happening with HSPA+, LTE, etc. for Tmo, If it is possible to get the INT version of the n7100 and get LTE in 4-14 months, that makes an investment in the Note 2 a very wise choice....something I like to do.
But something does bother me. Although I haven't confirmed this, but I read somewhere that tmo HSPA+ is not available for the Note 2. Which seems kinda weird.
Can anyone clarify this?

vebulous said:
I know this thread has been asleep for a while, but with all the crazyness happening with HSPA+, LTE, etc. for Tmo, If it is possible to get the INT version of the n7100 and get LTE in 4-14 months, that makes an investment in the Note 2 a very wise choice....something I like to do.
But something does bother me. Although I haven't confirmed this, but I read somewhere that tmo HSPA+ is not available for the Note 2. Which seems kinda weird.
Can anyone clarify this?
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The N7100 is the international version and if you buy that for Tmobile, you won't get HSPA+ or LTE as it only has HSPA+ (for AT&T, but if T-Mobile is refarming the 1900MHz band in your area, you'll actually get HSPA+) and no LTE bands.
The T-Mobile version, coming out later this month, will support both the current HSPA+ (On T-Mobile on the 1700mhz AWS spectrum) and the LTE bands that T-Mobile plans to use for their LTE rollout.
In short, wait for the T-Mobile one, and get it.

I believe that the AT&T and T-Mobile Note II will be essentially identical. I believe that since Samsung is using the Exynos in the US versions that they're using the same Qualcomm modem in both, so on AT&T it can take advantage of LTE and on T-Mo it will allow the HSPA 42+, and then it will be able to use LTE once it starts rolling out.

takgeun68 said:
Yes I am very excited for T-Mobile version, since the deal with AT&T was cancelled, Tmobile is definitely stepping up with their lines of smart phone The biggest news and rumor would be that Tmo version (I dont know about other carriers) will still carry Exonys quad core! unlike the galaxy s3 where they downgraded the CPU. Now thats very exciting news when any ETA for the galaxy note 2 for TMO? I heard lastest November but I hope they release them in October.
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They didn't downgrade the CPU in the US Version of the GS3. The international version does have the Exonys Quad core but its the last(older) generation of that chip. The US version came with a duel core S4 chip with 2 gigs ram... which if you actually ran tests, it runs crazy fast and even faster than then Quad core Exonys. This Galaxy Note 2 has the same Exonys Quad core(older version) as the int GS3 and also 2 gigs of ram which make it crazy quick.

newageoutlaw said:
They didn't downgrade the CPU in the US Version of the GS3. The international version does have the Exonys Quad core but its the last(older) generation of that chip. The US version came with a duel core S4 chip with 2 gigs ram... which if you actually ran tests, it runs crazy fast and even faster than then Quad core Exonys. This Galaxy Note 2 has the same Exonys Quad core(older version) as the int GS3 and also 2 gigs of ram which make it crazy quick.
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What actually makes it quick is the architecture of the S4 chip itself which uses 28 nm transistors for less heat and power consumption as well as the fact that it's based off both the A9 and A15 ARM reference chips whereas the Exynos is A9 based only, so you also get the benefits of the better architecture. However, the Exynos 5 (A15 based) look to wipe the floor with anything on the market currently.
duowing said:
I believe that the AT&T and T-Mobile Note II will be essentially identical. I believe that since Samsung is using the Exynos in the US versions that they're using the same Qualcomm modem in both, so on AT&T it can take advantage of LTE and on T-Mo it will allow the HSPA 42+, and then it will be able to use LTE once it starts rolling out.
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Well, the modems/radios are pretty much band-agnostic, meaning you could probably re-program it to work with any GSM carrier around the world (as long as the chip supports it). That's why the ATT OG Galaxy Note could be reprogrammed to be used on T-Mobile