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Samsung Galaxy S2.. on at&t!

This just in:
Original news link:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/13/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-hits-the-fcc-potentially-ready-for-atandt-3g/
FCC Link:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...e=N&application_id=273771&fcc_id='A3LGTI9100'
I'd be really happy if it does come on at&t bands because all of Canadia works on the same bands

that doesnt mean anything.. the stock sgs ii has att bands and just becuase it is going through fcc approval doesnt mean it is att requesting the approval.. could just be samsung getting it approved as it does all its phones.

Either way he can use it just fine, so it's a lot to get excited about

he could use it without fcc's approval...
also engadget was really slow this is friday's news
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...mode_i708_prototype_hit_the_fcc-news-2412.php
what did you think? ffc doesn't work on sundays

Well I for one happy about this.
I held out for waiting for the atrix, but in the end it just wasn't enough for me. I have a captivate and have enjoyed having it rooted and running froyo way before AT&T and sammy got off their ass.

i fully expect the s2 to have all the same bands that the galaxy s1 had, and the omnia hd also had, the same quadband coverage, dont expect anything to change here. because they are the most widely used bands, perfect for an international model.

Oh man, this is getting harder and harder.
Is going to be either SGS2 or iP5.
So difficult.

i still believe S2 will be compatible to all providers, like S1,,
make the base of fight with ip5,,
using tegra2 to ensure the quantity for sale ,, which makes sense.

This was known for a while now, that the Galaxy S 2 wwould work on ATT 3G bands. What is not known is whether ATT will pick up the phone or not.
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They would be fools not to pick it up.
Phones are just bait to get and keep subscribers. The phone should be a great device.

If this is a AT&T only phone, there is no justice in the world.

The international version works on AT&T.
Even if some US Carriers carry it, it will suck in comparison. Look at the Captivate/Vibrant compared to the i9000.

Yeah, that is true.
If AT&T does get they will probably request that sammy retard the phone some how. Like taking away some of the radios or no front facing camera.
I'm hoping they wont do that this time, but they probably will find some way to screw it up.

Agreed! I won't ever buy a AT&T retarded phone again, if there is an international one available I will pay extra for it. Like the Captivate vs i9000.

lgkahn said:
that doesnt mean anything.. the stock sgs ii has att bands and just becuase it is going through fcc approval doesnt mean it is att requesting the approval.. could just be samsung getting it approved as it does all its phones.
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vista1984 said:
i still believe S2 will be compatible to all providers, like S1,,
make the base of fight with ip5,,
using tegra2 to ensure the quantity for sale ,, which makes sense.
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I completely understand if you guys didn't dig into FCC documents to read what they said, I don't blame you, but just to clarify, the device passed is an 850/1900 ONLY phone, meaning it can only be for AT&T or Canadian carriers.
Other versions will likely be released, but the version that passed FCC is not going to work on other US carriers.
MikeyMike01 said:
The international version works on AT&T.
Even if some US Carriers carry it, it will suck in comparison. Look at the Captivate/Vibrant compared to the i9000.
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We'll have to see if they strip out features again. FFC is a must, and I don't think they'll strip that out. I think they took that out last time because the network wasn't ready for video calling. They wanted HSPA+ prior to letting people use video calling. Other phones AT&T sells have an FFC now, so I don't think the SGS2 will be any different.
Other than that, what, FM radio and no HSUPA? AT&T SAYS they are going to start rolling out HSUPA, we'll see, if not I'm sure a radio swap with an international version will work again. And FM radio would be a nice addition, but I certainly won't make a decision on a phone over it. I can always use TuneIn and iheartradio if I really want to listen to my ****ty local stations. Oh, and a flash on the camera. That one actually may sway my decision to buy it if they don't include a flash. That was one of the stupidest things I've seen, but I found that I don't care about flash for pictures as much as I do for a flashlight. Most cell phone pictures taken with flash look like crap anyway.
I would go for an international version if they were at least somewhat reasonable in price, but I'm not paying $700-800+ USD for an international version.
Anyway, I hope they will hurry up. I have an upgrade that I'm itching to use!

AJerman said:
I would go for an international version if they were at least somewhat reasonable in price, but I'm not paying $700-800+ USD for an international version.
Anyway, I hope they will hurry up. I have an upgrade that I'm itching to use!
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Why not? Use your upgrade + $199 to buy an Iphone5, sell it for ~$600, pay <$300 out-of-pocket for the international version. The latest details are $700 and a May date from the other thread.

madgraph said:
Why not? Use your upgrade + $199 to buy an Iphone5, sell it for ~$600, pay <$300 out-of-pocket for the international version. The latest details are $700 and a May date from the other thread.
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Because I don't want to spend that much on a phone right now. I just bought an iPad 2 as my latest toy, so I have to limit myself. Depending on the cost on AT&T, I'm up for upgrade price plus $50 off. If it hits a $200 price point again I can probably get it for $150. We don't even know what will be different between the two yet.

AJerman said:
I just bought an iPad 2 as my latest toy,
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I'm sorry.
Sent from my Captivate

But will the international version allow us to have HSPA+ on ATT? Or just 3G?

andrew53517 said:
But will the international version allow us to have HSPA+ on ATT? Or just 3G?
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HSPA+, fully unlocked

It may be here soon....The Note

Engadget has a great teaser up today for those of us in the US awaiting the AT&T release

I don't understand... how is this any more significant than it going through the FCC the first time (back in September)? The only difference seems to be that it now has a slightly ammended model#.

I see it as progress, that htye have renumbered it. Hopefully in the first quarter, second quarter would be ok, too.....I can wait

GTFO with that kind of news. It is depressing to read that from a T-Mobile perspective!

The 1700/2100 banding version is due out in Korea anytime no worries

Damn, looks like we'll have to wait even longer for the LTE version.

Boo... I was sick of waiting so I got the GSII. If it comes out in like 2 1/2 weeks then I will eat the 35$ restocking fee... but I dont see that happening. Oh well, guess Ill just stick with a slightly less awesome phone

Great news. And I frankly don't care if it's not LTE capable. I just hope they don't make a hardware change that affects performance.

I just wish they would put it out already and make it compatible with t-mobile. I am so sick of Samsung and their BS. Why is every US release involving them such a mess?

I was hoping this was gonna be news about ICS Oh well, I am having fun playing with my galaxy note now

A few things to note here.
1. There's no showing of this most recent version (GT-N7000B) having the 700MHz capability, which means AT&T 2G/3G only, no 4G LTE.
2. As we've seen with the GT-N7003, if/when they DO offer an LTE version it will be with a the Snapdragon 1.5GHz (8255T) chip...Which has the INFERIOR (as compared to the Mali 400MP in the Exynos version) Adreno 205 GPU!!!
I don't get the thinking with using an older generation Adreno 205 with a monstrous 5.3" 1280x800 rez phone?? That's like throwing a Ford Escort engine under the hood of a Hummer body (alright, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but still... For a screen/rez on the Note, it seems you'd want the best possible GPU driving it).
The 1700/2100 banding version is due out in Korea anytime no worries
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Huh? Am I missing something? I've been reading it's out in S. Korea in the LTE/Snapdragon flavor....Where are you hearing 1700/2100?

This is great news only if AT&T puts the Note in their system. Big question is is it a tablet or a phone AT&T must be having real problems figuring this out! What will happen if they put this in their system, will a European version then show up and be able to get an APN automatically downloaded to the phone?

I really hope they figure out how to keep the Exynos and not drop in the Snapdragon to enable LTE compatibility. The original GS2 is just so much snappier than the Snapdragon Skyrocket.

bigmout said:
Great news. And I frankly don't care if it's not LTE capable. I just hope they don't make a hardware change that affects performance.
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exactly what I was thinking

Namuna said:
Huh? Am I missing something? I've been reading it's out in S. Korea in the LTE/Snapdragon flavor....Where are you hearing 1700/2100?
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I think Korea uses CDMA 1700/2100 bands.

n25philly said:
I just wish they would put it out already and make it compatible with t-mobile. I am so sick of Samsung and their BS. Why is every US release involving them such a mess?
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Why is that necessarily Samsung's fault?
Namuna said:
1. There's no showing of this most recent version (GT-N7000B) having the 700MHz capability, which means AT&T 2G/3G only, no 4G LTE.
2. As we've seen with the GT-N7003, if/when they DO offer an LTE version it will be with a the Snapdragon 1.5GHz (8255T) chip...Which has the INFERIOR (as compared to the Mali 400MP in the Exynos version) Adreno 205 GPU!!!
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My fear of an eventual AT&T release being LTE (and therefore getting slower hardware) is why I went ahead and ordered an international version (before today, not realizing that AT&T would release a non LTE version). I'd love to have LTE, but not at the expense of the slower hardware.

Its AT&T, enjoy your anal plundering... and still ranked WORST of the carriers in customer satisfaction...
TMobile, or Verizon and ill Pre order the thing (oh, and sans the ****ty snapdragon)

dscline said:
Why is that necessarily Samsung's fault?
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I don't know, maybe because they make the phone? Then again going out of your way to not have customers seems to make sense in the cell phone business for some reason.

I have been perfectly happy with AT&T for many, many years (I predate the Cingular years, back to original AT&T). I don't care about 4G or LTE, I just want the Note in my hands sooner rather than later. I certainly hope they class it as a phone, if they don't, then I'll bitterly move onto the SGS II or whatever snazzy new phone is out at that time.

n25philly said:
I don't know, maybe because they make the phone?
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Seems to me that Tmobile would have to be interested in carrying it for Samsung to be intersted in making it. Samsung can't count on a significant number of Tmobile customers buying an already niche phone unsubsidized.

Skipping LTE

Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.

well Iam planning to get the international one, cause I'm with Tmobile and i think they don't have lte yet rigth?.
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walliester said:
well Iam planning to get the international one, cause I'm with Tmobile and i think they don't have lte yet rigth?.
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That's true but Tmobile is supposed to get a non LTE version and it will be much cheaper than the international version if you buy it on contract.

It depends on your location. If you have no LTE where you live, but has 3G, then international version is good idea. Also it will inevitably gets more developers than carrier locked version and has better resale value.

eksasol said:
It depends on your location. If you have no LTE where you live, but has 3G, then international version is good idea. Also international version is pentaband so you can switch between TMO and ATT. Also it will inevitably gets more developers than carrier locked version and has better resale value.
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I do have lte in my city, but not sure if it really matters to me. There is free wifi almost everywhere these days, and I am guessing lte coverage is going to be pretty spotty since it is so new.
I guess since I upgrade my phone once a year, I would be fine without lte for another 6-12 months.

double post

International.
Philly doesn't have LTE yet, but probably soon.
I like having the physical button on front to wake the phone, us versions usually don't have that.
Less bloat.
To make up the price difference I'll probably get the iphone 5 on contract when it comes out later this year and sell it on ebay.

djsaad1 said:
Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.
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I have pre ordered mine already as I have T-Mobile wthout LTE... I will however switch my order from blue to white as soon as its an option.
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To each their own.

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eksasol said:
I need to correct myself, there is an update in spec, and it won't suport T-Mo 3G. gsmarena
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Shiiiii
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To each their own.

I am on AT&T and we are about to get LTE but I really don't care. I am a WiFi consumer 99.99999% of the time so I would rather have this phone with the hopes I will get updates to JB in the fall quicker and that the ROMS will come faster.

International.
I live in Northern part of LA, we have 4G LTE with ATT. But I always have wifi available where ever I go, even work. I'd rather have a better processor, ROM support, faster updates than 4G LTE that I'll honestly hardly ever use. I guess I'm fine with ATT FAKE 4G.

djsaad1 said:
Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.
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I already decided to skip LTE with the N7000. I don;t use enough carrier data to need it. I prefer the MediaNet $10 UL data. I barely use 1GB a month. Enough to have to pay $30 but not enough to get "value" for that money. I use WiFi almost 100% of the time. 3G+ can stream video without issues. I am ok with that.
LTE is probably great for those who have or don't want to pay for Home Intermet Service and tethers. I have no use for it at this time.
Tough to go back to carrier branded after having the more widely spread international versions.

I may get rid of my at&t Note, and use whatever funds I receive from that to get 1 of these intl versions.
Or, I might just get an intl Note instead...if the screen size and s-pen really is a good reason for why I want to stay Note.

Will the international version work with Tmobile? pros and cons?
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Who would sell the International versions to the US?
EDIT: seems like Amazon might. I wonder when they would get their hands on it.

Zabalba said:
Who would sell the International versions to the US?
EDIT: seems like Amazon might. I wonder when they would get their hands on it.
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amazon, expansys, gummobile, handtech, negri, there are a lot of stores that ship to the u.s.

Newegg might sell it too...

Do you guys think the sites above would sell the international version the 29th?

Zabalba said:
Do you guys think the sites above would sell the international version the 29th?
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negri and onthegosolutions might send it out on release date. amazon is def not one of the sites that gets the phones on release day.

US SIII Confirmation for June

Article at engadget showing information about the SIII on the US carriers. Comes with the S4 processor and 2 gigs of RAM and the standard features.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/...rier-launch-att-verizon-sprint-t-mobile-uscc/
Thoughts?

I just hope they can keep the body style that same. It really takes away from the accessory market. Having 5 variants of the same phone is silly (minus the internal differences).
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I wish they made 2 versions of the S3 just like the S2. One international-like version for people who don't even have LTE in their area and followed by the LTE version. I'd take quad core over LTE any day...
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But the S4 dual core is no sloth...its a beast! plus 2gig of ram ...the thing will fly.
its might actually be better than the international model....especially if you are in an LTE area.

More cores doesn't necessarily mean more power keep that in mind... the S4 is still quite powerful for a mobile device. I do however hope that they keep the same exterior design on the US models. I don't think it will be too much different though... At least I hope not, though it does say that the different versions are customized for each carrier. We do know that T-Mobile is keeping the original design.

Killa357 said:
We do know that T-Mobile is keeping the original design.
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How do you know that?

Because it has already been posted, unless someone faked it.
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/01/samsung-galaxy-s3-for-t-mobile-pictured-keeps-physical-home-button/
and here
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/1/3057737/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-t-mobile-usa

Killa357 said:
Because it has already been posted, unless someone faked it.
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/01/samsung-galaxy-s3-for-t-mobile-pictured-keeps-physical-home-button/
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/1/3057737/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-t-mobile-usa
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That can be easily photoshoped. However the sgs3 pics on att are more credible

Easily, Hell I could do it. Though out of the big US carriers I could see T-Mobile to be more likely to leave well enough alone than the others.

Even AT&T is using stock Samsung photos (No carrier branding.) So far only the Verizon version has been photographed.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/06/03/exclusive-photos-this-is-the-verizon-samsung-galaxy-s-iii/

most likely they will all look the same..especially with having such a close release date as the international model.
with the S2 it took like 6 months before the US model was released.

Baldilocks said:
Even AT&T is using stock Samsung photos (No carrier branding.) So far only the Verizon version has been photographed.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/06/03/exclusive-photos-this-is-the-verizon-samsung-galaxy-s-iii/
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Nice find, if they are using stock photos I think they would probably go with an unaltered device. Misled customers tend to be pissed customers.

Either way, it's the International version for me.

Tmobile lg 4 vs international lg 4

Well now that they have been announced I have a questions are there any differences between them ? Will they both get the same Dev support ? I made the mistake of buying the galaxy 2 from tmobile and worse decision I ever did had to get rid of it and buy a gnex since the support for the galaxy s2 was the worst and always behind..... Since I have tmobile might ass well use one of my upgrades and save some money on the lg4 just making sure I won't be stuck getting late updates or have luck of support like some people with the Verizon galaxy nexus are having but I understand why since they are using lte which changes the phone around......
thanks for all the help in advanced

There literally is no difference other than the contract you sign.
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Smokeey said:
There literally is no difference other than the contract you sign.
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thanks for the quick response.... I will go ahead and order thru tmobile since im planning to keep them anyways about time they release a phone I actually want :good::good:

gdmlaz said:
thanks for the quick response.... I will go ahead and order thru tmobile since im planning to keep them anyways about time they release a phone I actually want :good::good:
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NO! Pay $150 more to not have to worry about a contract, PLUS pay less with a Value or Pre-Paid Tmo plan.

It is too soon to tell if there will be a software difference. Anyone who says differently needs to provide a link showing proof.
The hardware will be the same.

Actually, it seems that the T-Mobile version will have 42mbps HSPA+, while the version in the google play store only goes up to 21mbps HSPA+.
Other than that, I would assume they would be identical.
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/29/t-mobile-nexus-4-price/
(Under the update at the bottom of the page)

lightninman said:
Actually, it seems that the T-Mobile version will have 42mbps HSPA+, while the version in the google play store only goes up to 21mbps HSPA+.
Other than that, I would assume they would be identical.
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/29/t-mobile-nexus-4-price/
(Under the update at the bottom of the page)
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FFS people. There are not two versions. It has 8GB or 16GB, those are the SKUs. They're both 42mbps HSPA+.
Google's own Play Store had a typo. It's even been fixed there: https://play.google.com/store/devic...wNV9uZXh1c1VTXzFfcHJvbW9fMTM1MTUyODMyNzI1OCJd
It's DC-HSPA+ 42mbps.

martonikaj said:
FFS people. There are not two versions. It has 8GB or 16GB, those are the SKUs. They're both 42mbps HSPA+.
Google's own Play Store had a typo. It's even been fixed there: https://play.google.com/store/devic...wNV9uZXh1c1VTXzFfcHJvbW9fMTM1MTUyODMyNzI1OCJd
It's DC-HSPA+ 42mbps.
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My bad, I saw the 21 earlier and I thought it was some deal between T-Mobile and Google. The Galaxy Nexus international and US unlocked versions were identical hardware-wise, and since there won't be a CDMA version, there shouldn't be any differences with the Nexus 4

lightninman said:
My bad, I saw the 21 earlier and I thought it was some deal between T-Mobile and Google. The Galaxy Nexus international and US unlocked versions were identical hardware-wise, and since there won't be a CDMA version, there shouldn't be any differences with the Nexus 4
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Not hardware-wise, but there could be software-wise.
Look at all the yakju variants, which are identical hardware, but different software.

adrynalyne said:
Not hardware-wise, but there could be software-wise.
Look at all the yakju variants, which are identical hardware, but different software.
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I'm wondering about the SW build also like with the GNex. But i'm getting the Play Store version regardless :good:

J-Hop2o6 said:
NO! Pay $150 more to not have to worry about a contract, PLUS pay less with a Value or Pre-Paid Tmo plan.
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Im on a family plan and planning to keep tmobile since I have 3 lines in this account so wasting an upgrade doesn't really bother me

No offense but I think the best place to ask this question is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1908