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When the heck will Canada get ICS for their GT-P7500R?

Enough already.....when is this thing gonna be released?

Probably sometime after they are done with the U.S. Be patient.

BretonGirl said:
Probably sometime after they are done with the U.S. Be patient.
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Ha, that's just plain funny. Back in May when Mobile Syrup (quite wrongly) announced Canada was getting the ics update for the gtab 10.1 by the end of the week, there were literally pages of Americans *****ing and complaining about how it was unfair that Canada should get it first.
As per normal, you got it first and are telling a Canuck to be patient!!!!!! LOL!!!
p.s with a name like BretonGirl are you originally from Cape Breton?
Edit. Love your reply in the jb thread too!
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When Rogers gets off their ass and start their "tests".
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nxdark said:
When Rogers gets off their ass and start their "tests".
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Telus is the same - they need to go through all of this "internal testing". Man I'm on AOSP Jellybean and am so happy I'm almost not caring when and if it comes out. I might flash back to my stock unrooted Nandroid just to do the update for experience's sake when it does happen.

jmitr said:
Ha, that's just plain funny. Back in May when Mobile Syrup (quite wrongly) announced Canada was getting the ics update for the gtab 10.1 by the end of the week, there were literally pages of Americans *****ing and complaining about how it was unfair that Canada should get it first.
As per normal, you got it first and are telling a Canuck to be patient!!!!!! LOL!!!
p.s with a name like BretonGirl are you originally from Cape Breton?
Edit. Love your reply in the jb thread too!
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I hold dual Canadian/US citizenship and my family is from Cape Breton, yes. We had to be patient too while Europe and the UK got it first. I never complained. I suggest complaining to your carrier. I bet they are busy shoving as much of their crapware into it as possible. Most carriers love doing that.

Just install the uk one, it works perfect with rogers
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Yep, what dishme said.
dishme said:
Just install the uk one, it works perfect with rogers
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BretonGirl said:
I hold dual Canadian/US citizenship and my family is from Cape Breton, yes. We had to be patient too while Europe and the UK got it first. I never complained. I suggest complaining to your carrier. I bet they are busy shoving as much of their crapware into it as possible. Most carriers love doing that.
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Cool,
I am actually very happy with my tablet as is, much better than my Wife's ipad2. I am looking forward to better app compatability, configurable screenshot button, editable mini app tray etc....but that can wait.
I have the wifi version so no carrier to complain to, not that I would anyways my post was meant as laughing at others been impatient (Yanks and Canucks).
Cape Breton is awesome, I used to fly for Air Nova and was based in Halifax with tonnes (or metric fucton????) of Sydney overnights.
Take care,
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Roger/Telus/Fido
nxdark said:
When Rogers gets off their ass and start their "tests".
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djmatt604 said:
Telus is the same - they need to go through all of this "internal testing". Man I'm on AOSP Jellybean and am so happy I'm almost not caring when and if it comes out. I might flash back to my stock unrooted Nandroid just to do the update for experience's sake when it does happen.
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They are all one big happy company....Rogers owns both Telus and Fido....Which is why you can switch from one to another just by swapping Sim cards on a carrier sim locked device. Found that out when I was unlocking my G1 got an old telus Sim and try to use an unlock code , it was already unlocked for telus, and fido. but the At&t sim from ebay forced the unlocke pin query.
You'll get ICS/JB on an update from rogers when you fork over anonter couple hundred$$$$$ for new hardware.
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P.S if it sounds like I'm anti Rogers ....you should stand way back when I talk about Bell..

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tommygHTCdream said:
They are all one big happy company....Rogers owns both Telus and Fido.....
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I'm pretty sure that Bell owns Telus. I know that Telus uses Bell towers for its signal. Your correct that Rogers owns Fido.
I have Rogers for my cell and Telus for my 3g tab 10.1. I can have no signal on my Rogers phone but have 3 bars on my Tab so they are definitely on different towers.
Telus keeps saying they are going to upgrade the Tab and then pushing the date back.
I think developers had forgotten about Honeycomb on Tablets and I wanted to be back on the main path of Android so I thought I would try rooting.
Now on the CM10 experiment by Pershoot and its great. Exactly the reason I will continue to buy Android products. I don't have to rely on some big stupid corporation, I can go to the great developer community and find all kinds of awesome stuff to run on my devices.
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Android 4.1.1 Jelly Bean
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 GT-P7500D on Telus
Pershoot CM10 JB preview build 0811
Gapps-jb-20120729
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1787399

tommygHTCdream said:
They are all one big happy company....Rogers owns both Telus and Fido....Which is why you can switch from one to another just by swapping Sim cards on a carrier sim locked device. Found that out when I was unlocking my G1 got an old telus Sim and try to use an unlock code , it was already unlocked for telus, and fido. but the At&t sim from ebay forced the unlocke pin query.
You'll get ICS/JB on an update from rogers when you fork over anonter couple hundred$$$$$ for new hardware.
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P.S if it sounds like I'm anti Rogers ....you should stand way back when I talk about Bell..
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Rogers does own fido however they do not own Telus. Nor does Bell own Telus. However Bell and Telus have an agreement where out west Bell uses Telus towers and out east Telus uses Bell towers.
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Telus
Well call me stupid ( should use Google search more), Telus is indeed a separate company not associated with Bell or Rogers.
Though I do remember an article 5-6 years back about Rogers buying a portion of Telus. That may have just been an investment by the financial arm of Rogers( diversity is a good thing).
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They're all bullcrap. They all need to push updates sooner.

nxdark said:
Rogers does own fido however they do not own Telus. Nor does Bell own Telus. However Bell and Telus have an agreement where out west Bell uses Telus towers and out east Telus uses Bell towers.
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Well, someone got it correct!
Bell and Telus used to be cdma carriers, when they wanted to launch their hspa network a few years ago they agreed to share the cost by building a network together, hence the "Bellus" term! But.....they are two very separate companies and are going their separate ways with lte.
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Rogers announced an update schedule. On there it says that the tab 10.1 and tab 8.9 would be updated in september.
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Canadian s4 bootloader locked?

Has anyone from Canadian, bell or rogers carrier checked to see if their s4 are bootloader locked? Real curious on this thanks
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In the Official Canadian thread here there was a poster whose wife got her hand on a GS4 and he said he'd get back to us sometime today about the bootloader. Until Rogers gets itself together and sends us our phones checking back there is our best bet.

I'm eagerly awaiting this info too. I'm spot #775 in line with Rogers and if it is locked I'll cancel my order before it ships.
If it is not locked, there is a chance we can flash I9505 ROMs.

Im verry curious also

As I confirmed in the Canadian thread, the Rogers/Fido version is BL locked

Lol... glad I didnt buy it.....better not happen on note 3

mickliq said:
As I confirmed in the Canadian thread, the Rogers/Fido version is BL locked
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No, the 0x30 string turned out to NOT be the indicator.
You have to try the CF-Auto-root to see if it's bootloader locked (and even that may not work despite an unlocked bootloader depending on your firmware version). There's no confirmation yet at the moment.

twanskys204 said:
Lol... glad I didnt buy it.....better not happen on note 3
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It will be locked. As with all other devices from now on most likely.

geoldr said:
It will be locked. As with all other devices from now on most likely.
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That's just a random guess.
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tietherope said:
That's just a random guess.
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Sure. But its certainly a growing trend. Carriers dont want people to tether without paying for it. So they lock the bootloader. Thats why we have XDA and other forums.
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You can tether without paying in Canada just turn on your wireless hotspot.

geoldr said:
Sure. But its certainly a growing trend. Carriers dont want people to tether without paying for it. So they lock the bootloader. Thats why we have XDA and other forums.
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We don't pay for tethering in Canada. We just get 3 year contracts instead of 2. I personally prefer free tethering and 3 year contracts, because after 2 years, we can usually work out a deal with our carriers for a subsidy if we resign.

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We don't pay for tethering in Canada. We just get 3 year contracts instead of 2. I personally prefer free tethering and 3 year contracts, because after 2 years, we can usually work out a deal with our carriers for a subsidy if we resign.
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A three year contract for a phone seems very crazy to me. But then again I dont like to have the latest gadget every year. But even for the general consumer I feel bad for signing a three year contract. 3 years between a new device is a long time.

geoldr said:
A three year contract for a phone seems very crazy to me. But then again I dont like to have the latest gadget every year. But even for the general consumer I feel bad for signing a three year contract. 3 years between a new device is a long time.
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It doesn't end up being a full 3 years per device though, we can work out deals after 2 years, although, most probably don't know that.

just answering the op the bootloader on any canadian i337m is unlocked...
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The SGH-I337M is the same hardware as the SGH-I337 but has different QFuses configuration (Most likely FORCE_TRUSTED_BOOT not blown and a different RSA2048 PUB key set for the kernel checks, as I somewhat doubt Rogers and Telecel somewhat have a copy of AT&T's private RSA key, and obviously the base model name)

I have a Bell S4 and the bootloader is locked.

raviluke said:
I have a Bell S4 and the bootloader is locked.
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Wait what? As far as I know, all Canadian variants are bootloader unlocked. My Bell S4's bootloader is unlocked, I've got TWRP installed and so on.
I even sim unlocked it!

fortesquieu said:
Wait what? As far as I know, all Canadian variants are bootloader unlocked. My Bell S4's bootloader is unlocked, I've got TWRP installed and so on.
I even sim unlocked it!
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When I go in "ODIN" mode, it says in grey colour: WRITE PROTECTION: ENABLE
I had installed TWRP as well, but when I flashed a custom rom, the phone wouldn't boot up.
I had to download official ROM from samfirmware and flash it through ODIN and phone booted up.

raviluke said:
When I go in "ODIN" mode, it says in grey colour: WRITE PROTECTION: ENABLE
I had installed TWRP as well, but when I flashed a custom rom, the phone wouldn't boot up.
I had to download official ROM from samfirmware and flash it through ODIN and phone booted up.
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Which ROM did you flash? CM10.1?
*IF you can install TWRP, that means your bootloader is unlocked.

[Q] AT&T S4... Switch to T-mobile S4

I Have the AT&T S4... should I switch to T-mobile S4? (bootloader issues)... I want to make the move before I can no longer return my AT&T S4... any thoughts? I know the AT&T S4 would tend to have more going on in terms of roms and development, but even well known devs are saying stay away from this version... seems like they dont think it's gonna happen soon at all.

From what I read on the T-Mobile forums they are still trying to figure out if the bootloader is locked like ours
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t2abousa said:
I Have the AT&T S4... should I switch to T-mobile S4? (bootloader issues)... I want to make the move before I can no longer return my AT&T S4... any thoughts? I know the AT&T S4 would tend to have more going on in terms of roms and development, but even well known devs are saying stay away from this version... seems like they dont think it's gonna happen soon at all.
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right there with you, i've got 13 more days to return-no-questions-asked, just a little butt-hurt i already traded my lovely GS2 in :crying: should have kept that little sucker around until all this washed over. I would go over to HTC One, as it is developer-friendly, but i just can't bring myself to a non-reparable design as these USB ports at the bottom go after time, no swapable batt, and missing micro SD card (love having my pics there in case phone dies, while it's not the ultimate in security, it's at least a small form of backup). Also, the added screen real estate i think is the perfect phone size.
Really hoping the TMob version can be SIM swapped, might not make it to my return date to get confirmation on this....boo

I am thinking of going HTC one. Cant afford to wait a year for potential screw up where Samsung releases an unlock. There will be no unlock for boot loader u less Samsung or somebody working there leaks it.
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Can anyone link me to the tmobile forum for this phone? Can't seem to find it lol

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Apparently the t-mobile bootloader is unlocked, read the third paragraph
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/official-and-confirmed-att-galaxy-s-4-is-bootloader-locked/

crt60 said:
Apparently the t-mobile bootloader is unlocked, read the third paragraph
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/official-and-confirmed-att-galaxy-s-4-is-bootloader-locked/
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Figures... now to see if I can buy the T-mobile version without having a t-mobile line. At&T and Verizon dont allow it. Anyone know if they will let you?

t2abousa said:
Figures... now to see if I can buy the T-mobile version without having a t-mobile line. At&T and Verizon dont allow it. Anyone know if they will let you?
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This site claims to have the unlocked US T-Mobile S4 available for pre-order. I have no experience with them, but they are mentioned several times in the S4 forums.
http://negrielectronics.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=s4#.UYDASknD_IU
...and for $70 cheaper than the AT&T unlocked S4!

scott14719 said:
This site claims to have the unlocked US T-Mobile S4 available for pre-order. I have no experience with them, but they are mentioned several times in the S4 forums.
http://negrielectronics.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=s4#.UYDASknD_IU
...and for $70 cheaper than the AT&T unlocked S4!
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Nice, thanks! My concern is that they are probably talking about sim unlock which is possible on At&T already, I wish we had someone who owns a t-mobile S4 and can confirm an unlocked or unlockable bootloader.
EDIT: Looks like according to the t-mobile forum theirs is unlocked bootloader. Im hoping we can just get the bootloader unlocked by then but if not.. plan B!

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Nice, thanks! My concern is that they are probably talking about sim unlock which is possible on At&T already, I wish we had someone who owns a t-mobile S4 and can confirm an unlocked or unlockable bootloader.
EDIT: Looks like according to the t-mobile forum theirs is unlocked bootloader. Im hoping we can just get the bootloader unlocked by then but if not.. plan B!
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Wasn't your original question about where to buy a T-Mobile S4 without having a T-Mobile line? If so, that site claims to have them. If you are planning on using the T-Mobile S4 on AT&T networks it will need to be sim unlocked. Otherwise, I'm not sure why you are looking to buy a T-Mobile S4 without having a T-Mobile line. As far as the bootloader goes, AT&T is locked, T-Mobile is not, but that has nothing to do with a T-Mobile phone on an AT&T line? Maybe I am just not understanding what you are looking for?

Coming from Sprint Note 2, what will be different?

Hello all. I've been running a Note 2 on Sprint for the last 14 months and I've enjoyed the experience. I am probably switching to VZW here in a month or so and will probably get a Note 3.
I've been reading on this forum here and there and am curious what types of things will be different with having a locked bootloader. I read the entire BL unlocked thread, which apparently was a scam, unfortunate.
It is my intention to only run TW Roms, AOSP has it's place but I prefer tweaked TW. What won't I be able to do with the locked BL that I could with it gone?
Thanks for your time.

MeetFace said:
Hello all. I've been running a Note 2 on Sprint for the last 14 months and I've enjoyed the experience. I am probably switching to VZW here in a month or so and will probably get a Note 3.
I've been reading on this forum here and there and am curious what types of things will be different with having a locked bootloader. I read the entire BL unlocked thread, which apparently was a scam, unfortunate.
It is my intention to only run TW Roms, AOSP has it's place but I prefer tweaked TW. What won't I be able to do with the locked BL that I could with it gone?
Thanks for your time.
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Install safestrap and start flashing roms, you just cant do kernels. Im sure there some others, but thats a biggie.

xBryan said:
Install safestrap and start flashing roms, you just cant do kernels. Im sure there some others, but thats a biggie.
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Very good, what about things like ViperAudio (http://vipersaudio.com/blog/?page_id=25)? This would help not having kernels with audio enhancements
Thanks!

MeetFace said:
Very good, what about things like ViperAudio (http://vipersaudio.com/blog/?page_id=25)? This would help not having kernels with audio enhancements
Thanks!
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Viper works fine

If you have the money get the dev version because the bootloader is locked on the retail version
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mexiking713 said:
If you have the money get the dev version because the bootloader is locked on the retail version
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I get that, but to you, why is this so important? Just looking for opinions.
Also, if I'm right, there are no discounts on VZW for having your own phone. That makes the phone a LOT more expensive.
Thanks!

Just wait for the galaxy S5 that should be coming out in mid March. They are going to announce it the 24th of this month.
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BA0714 said:
Just wait for the galaxy S5 that should be coming out in mid March. They are going to announce it the 24th of this month.
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I'm waiting for the announcement, but I have to switch by March 11, Sprint is tired of my crappy reception and roaming :/ I doubt I can get the phone before then, a few weeks after the announcement.
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If you keep waiting on the next best phone then you're gonna keep waiting. Get the Note 3. I myself came from the Sprint Note 2 and the note 3 is definitely a decent upgrade. My next phone will be a Note 4 but there is still a way to go for that.

MeetFace said:
I get that, but to you, why is this so important? Just looking for opinions.
Also, if I'm right, there are no discounts on VZW for having your own phone. That makes the phone a LOT more expensive.
Thanks!
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Verizon has something called "Verizon Edge" It allows you to upgrade your phone whenever you want. So I think you get a discount for having your own phone. I'd look into that.
By the way, Verizon has the best 4G coverage BY FAR. You'll be happy with the speed and coverage. It will just suck to have limited data. Luckily I'm still grandfathered into my unlimited data plan running the Galaxy Note 3.

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Verizon has something called "Verizon Edge" It allows you to upgrade your phone whenever you want. So I think you get a discount for having your own phone. I'd look into that.
By the way, Verizon has the best 4G coverage BY FAR. You'll be happy with the speed and coverage. It will just suck to have limited data. Luckily I'm still grandfathered into my unlimited data plan running the Galaxy Note 3.
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Yeah, where I live VZW is king.
For comparison, Sprint just unveiled their new shiny 4G LTE network here. I'm currently roaming 3G on VZW and my data speeds beat Sprint's new LTE garbage. Not to mention signal penetration, at work I can hardly even talk on the phone unless I'm roaming on VZW.
So, solely for reception purposes I'm going VZW, it's pretty much a necessity.
I will ask about the Edge when I sign up, thanks for the heads up!

[Q] when 4.4.4 release for note 3 n9005

Hi my friends ...
when 4.4.4 release for note 3 n9005 ?

Miss like if than when
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When released.
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It rolled out to Sprint's Note 3 three days ago.
It's been rolled out to the S4 and S5 by Verizon and T-mobile USA too.
Be patient.
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ShadowLea said:
It rolled out to Sprint's Note 3 three days ago.
It's been rolled out to the S4 and S5 by Verizon and T-mobile USA too.
Be patient.
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So Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile devices got the update before international devices? Not that I really care abou the update, but this is...it's odd.

Samsung roll out update according to sales precepts, USA iPhone release make Samsung to release update before international phone, in my country U.A.E they release update if no new device being launched, after few updates for new device they forget about updates, if delay in update due to carriers approval how Samsung can relies update for newer devices along with other countries? Samsung don't care customers Simple.
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nitrous² said:
So Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile devices got the update before international devices? Not that I really care abou the update, but this is...it's odd.
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Not really. US providers have a tendency to pay money for these sorts of things.
Don't get the point from a marketing perspective because US citizens cant get unbranded devices without a hassle anyway, and it won't make the EU users buy US devices either.
Sony has a habit of doing this, too, but on a larger scale. They tend to pay Google so they can put the competition on hold for 3 months. Bit awful that Google goes along with it, it's not as if they need the money...
Look on the bright side. The US users get to be guinea-pigs and pick out all the fatal flaws for us. Saves us the trouble.
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iPhone release make Samsung to release update before international phone,
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No. But the Note 4 release, which comes with 4.4.4,does. As it always has, as Ive been telling people for months. (every year... )
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