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Well the Behold II is upon and its pretty similar to the Galaxy, so can the great guys here at XDA develop some ROMs for them? We need a separate forum for these phones.
This a forum for HTC phones, so you wont see any new sections for non-hTC devices.
NM I should read.
AdrianK said:
This a forum for HTC phones, so you wont see any new sections for non-hTC devices.
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TBH The name of this forum is "Android Software Development" and whilst this is majorly a HTC forum and Samsung devices would never get their own subforum, I see no problem with Behold2/Galaxy android development going on in this forum.
brummiesteven said:
TBH The name of this forum is "Android Software Development" and whilst this is majorly a HTC forum and Samsung devices would never get their own subforum, I see no problem with Behold2/Galaxy android development going on in this forum.
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The majority of the site isnt HTC the whole site is HTC lol there mite be some off topic talk about other devices but its not officially supported by the site an never will be
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The majority of the site isnt HTC the whole site is HTC lol there mite be some off topic talk about other devices but its not officially supported by the site an never will be
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I see a xperia x1 forum...
Rcommander said:
I see a xperia x1 forum...
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Not to be a smart-arse, but the X1 is produced by HTC
brummiesteven said:
TBH The name of this forum is "Android Software Development" and whilst this is majorly a HTC forum and Samsung devices would never get their own subforum, I see no problem with Behold2/Galaxy android development going on in this forum.
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I believe that was one of the reasons for this subforum ;-)
There is also a Palm Pre sub forum and I don't believe that is made by HTC.
btmec said:
There is also a Palm Pre sub forum and I don't believe that is made by HTC.
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Hmmmmm...Don't see a Palm Pre sub-forum, maybe I am having trouble with my eyes...
If perchance you mean the Palm Treo 750, then you would be mistaken as it is in fact manufactured by HTC...as is every single device that has its own sub-forum on XDA.
I just want to see these devices rooted so we can installed the better Samsung music, video player(I think there is divx support), and if possible the camera software also.
Hey Everyone I posted a new thread with some updated information about the BH2 which may have us one step closer to perm root and recovery and custom ROMS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=597501
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The majority of the site isnt HTC the whole site is HTC lol there mite be some off topic talk about other devices but its not officially supported by the site an never will be
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Then allow me to ask an obvious question: Why would a presumably independent user-run internet forum like this one devote itself entirely and exclusively to one specific manufacturer? Assuming that HTC doesn't actually own this forum, why is such blatant favoritism/discrimination taking place? Does HTC pay some kind of fee to have XDA dedicated entirely to its devices only? I don't get it. Why the preferential treatment?
Don't be disrespectful ... READ the history of XDA and why it came about before you guys take on XDA .,.,., Instead of demanding a forum , lets see if we can get some of the devs interested in these units.... First thing first ,they need to have the phone in hand to work on them , so find one willing and lets get that dev a phone to hack...some of you guys kno how to get a second phone @ no cost (**cough**lost **cough**phone)so do it .,. lets get them hacking this beautiful unit ,.,..,
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Then allow me to ask an obvious question: Why would a presumably independent user-run internet forum like this one devote itself entirely and exclusively to one specific manufacturer? Assuming that HTC doesn't actually own this forum, why is such blatant favoritism/discrimination taking place? Does HTC pay some kind of fee to have XDA dedicated entirely to its devices only? I don't get it. Why the preferential treatment?
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That is like asking Tmonews.com why they only have T-Mobile specific forums and not AT&T and Verizon and Orange and Roger and some Japanese network. It's because it's there site and they just want to focus on one subject. If you want discussion about different phones then this is a site that is not right for you. The owner just wants HTC and he's paying the bills so he will keep it just HTC.
But this site isn't called HTC-Developers, so it isn't obvious to visitors or members where the HTC devotion/bias comes from. Most people get referred here from other forums when looking for WinMo hacks, ROMs etc, not because they were looking for something HTC-specific.
I've actually been a member and regular visitor of this forum for a couple of years I believe, and this is the first time I've ever even heard of this HTC-centricity. It always seemed more generally Windows Mobile/OS focused than manufacturer specific.
In any case I don't recall challenging the site owner's authority or right to gear the site toward whatever he/she wishes. Rather my question was WHY this is the case, as in WHY the devs are devoted to HTC over other manufacturers. There is a significant difference between asking why something is the case, and suggesting that the owner doesn't have the right to make it so. Saying "because the owner wants it that way" isn't an answer to the question "Why does the owner want it that way?".
I did read the history and realize that the site started years ago based on an early HTC device or two; what I don't understand is why it has remained that way. My first vehicle was a tricycle but that doesn't mean I've stayed a tricycle devotee and ignored bikes and cars even to this day.
Back in those days HTC was mainly just making phones for other companies , like Imate tmobile O2 etc..... and they wont branded HTC but , whatever company it was made for . This site was born based on the lack of support these companies provided, you was always redirected to HTC who inturn sent you to your carrier. It has grown since then mostly windows mobile but now has a fast growing android side . They will support HTC androids , but thankfully some of the hacks work on other android devices ... We just have to get devs intrested in these devices and they can post their work here in the android Development section ... I think this would help us a lot
Its too bad, really: the only downside I find to my current phone (Sammy Moment) is that it isn't supported by XDA. My next phone will more than likely be HTC just because I miss all the value added this community provides.
Well if Im not mistaken the moto droid is Motorola and Motorola is not htc or in any form HTC and the acer infact isnt HTC therefore this hole site isnt HTC....
WHAT IN THE WORLD!
Hey, can we get a ROM or not? I just got this Behold 2 and I know DroidDeveloper managed to flash a Galaxy ROM onto it... what is the issues here? Just post some ROMs or post something productive. This phone has been out since December. Since everybody is cheap, I'll buy a dev a Behold 2 so they can start cooking some ROMs up... come on now...
Best HD2 owner's/users/modders.
By now it should be obvious that HTC should have noticed the large amount of users the XDA forum attracts every day.
As we all get excited for each new build out there,
should'nt we just send screenshots to HTC?
Posting and spamming HTC with all the benchmarks we can get!
So that they can't deny us and make a one time effort producing a NAND rom for us!
so we can Mod it further!
Please all of you : SPAM the freaking h*ll out of htc !!!
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Best HD2 owner's/users/modders.
By now it should be obvious that HTC should have noticed the large amount of users the XDA forum attracts every day.
As we all get excited for each new build out there,
should'nt we just send screenshots to HTC?
Posting and spamming HTC with all the benchmarks we can get!
So that they can't deny us and make a one time effort producing a NAND rom for us!
so we can Mod it further!
Please all of you : SPAM the freaking h*ll out of htc !!!
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I think no one going to do that.
Also a NAND version IS coming.
Only have patience
patience is an golden word only problem is i like silver comes before gold so hurry it already haha
nah, lave htc alone lol
lets all spam microsoft with the title "Who needs Windows Phone 7?" lol
leave brittney alone!!!(cries) ... lol
kingofyo1 said:
leave brittney alone!!!(cries) ... lol
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but seriously, isnt there ANY way we can convince htc ?
topderob said:
Best HD2 owner's/users/modders.
By now it should be obvious that HTC should have noticed the large amount of users the XDA forum attracts every day.
As we all get excited for each new build out there,
should'nt we just send screenshots to HTC?
Posting and spamming HTC with all the benchmarks we can get!
So that they can't deny us and make a one time effort producing a NAND rom for us!
so we can Mod it further!
Please all of you : SPAM the freaking h*ll out of htc !!!
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There is no way, EVER, that would work. If you manage to get ANY help on android development for hd2 by htc, I will personaly come down to your place and give you all the money I have. Thats how confident I am.
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leave brittney alone!!!(cries) ... lol
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Lmao.....
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I wouldn't "spam" them. That would just irritate them and give us a bad look.
I think it's unlikely they would create and official Android for HD2, because afterall, that's not going to make them a huge amount of money. If they did do it, it would be more of a kind gesture to the community.
The best we can do is to write an open letter, explain why we believe an official Android release for the HD2 would be largely beneficial for both HTC and HD2 owners (present and future). Ensure they're aware of the current interest, and perhaps do a poll of who would buy the HD2 if Android was an official option.
It will make them more money, cos there are many people out there that are skeptical about buying an HD2 cos of its retarded OS(u know which one i mean)...tell me, doesnt an Hd2 running two official OS's sound super-tempting to you?
If someone would help us, will be Google department, giving us a free HD2 Android tree, but unofficial means, giving that to Cottula Team.....we are their embassadores....MS don't want we will be that for WM7.....and HTC don't care, just want sell hardware.....and this is not good for their business.
*** you MS and your 7s.
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If someone would help us, will be Google department, giving us a free HD2 Android tree, but unofficial means, giving that to Cottula Team.....we are their embassadores....MS don't want we will be that for WM7.....and HTC don't care, just want sell hardware.....and this is not good for their business.
*** you MS and your 7s.
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wouldt work.. for it to work, google will need to ask their coders to come up with kernels to boot up android in hd2, not give us an os build..
RJackson said:
I wouldn't "spam" them. That would just irritate them and give us a bad look.
I think it's unlikely they would create and official Android for HD2, because afterall, that's not going to make them a huge amount of money. If they did do it, it would be more of a kind gesture to the community.
The best we can do is to write an open letter, explain why we believe an official Android release for the HD2 would be largely beneficial for both HTC and HD2 owners (present and future). Ensure they're aware of the current interest, and perhaps do a poll of who would buy the HD2 if Android was an official option.
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like u say, i wouldt recommend spamming htc.. but maybe we can have an online petition and gather virtual signatures and submit it to HTC?
would that be a better idea?
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wouldt work.. for it to work, google will need to ask their coders to come up with kernels to boot up android in hd2, not give us an os build..
like u say, i wouldt recommend spamming htc.. but maybe we can have an online petition and gather virtual signatures and submit it to HTC?
would that be a better idea?
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I like that idea for a petition for Android on HD2......and make Google our aliade, they have a good relationship with HTC.
Let's do it.....I'm in!
pack21 said:
I like that idea for a petition for Android on HD2......and make Google our aliade, they have a good relationship with HTC.
Let's do it.....I'm in!
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while your all at it, 'sign' here too if you havnt already.
http://layar.uservoice.com/forums/20979-general/suggestions/313434-windows-mobile-client?ref=title
make sure google dont forget about us
I suppose one could petition for it, to show them the interest. But it's still quite unlikely. They would have to (I think) strike some deal with Microsoft to release the WinMo exclusivity with the HD2. I think they would also have a tough time selling Android-based units, purely because of the inconsistency of having a Windows button on the keypad.
I suppose a petition could convince them to get involved in the htc-linux project, ie. help the dev's out with any problems, questions, etc.
The new HTC Desire HD is almost identical (at least spec wise) to the HD2 (exept the Cam)! Why would HTC ever do an HD2 Android ROM when they are going to make an "all new" device with Android? HTC woun't care for us! We already bought the device! They need new customers to buy new devices and not having "old" ones ugraded all the time!
pack21 said:
I like that idea for a petition for Android on HD2......and make Google our aliade, they have a good relationship with HTC.
Let's do it.....I'm in!
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lets do it guys im in, lets make some noise. we buy the phone we should decide what so we want
dream on my friend.... cuz you don't have a clue how job is done in large corporations! they have licesnes, copyrights, huuuge amounts of paper for one phone, so they can't just say: "hey we can grab source, do android and make xda community happy! yay!"
they are about to release desireHD so if you want android buy that one!
only thing you will do by spamming to HTC is to attract a HUUUGE hord of lawyers that will shut down xda, htc-linux and whole thing our devs were working for.
They just look away now because "they can't be responsible for things you do with your phone" as lawsuits are often big amount of money and time spent.
if this kind of behavior continues it WILL get nasty! take conflipper as example, but you probably don't even know who that is! GROW UP CHILDREN, YOU AIN't PLAYIN' WITH LEGO ANYMORE
!! so shut down this thread and rather do a DONATION to devs, mix some air, or help older people on the street, just leave HTC and everyone else out !!!
i think that if HTC showed a little gratitute to their loyal customers it would just make them look better to the community (at least this community). without XDA htc would sell much less.. I bought HTC only because XDA exists.. and I was sure to get more value from my device this way than with any other brand.
HTC is well aware of this.. they know their business believe me...
maybe they're already helping developers undercover..hehehe.. who knows...
in this forum we all know that our next device will be android-powered anyway...
I love winmo.. i always had... but android is more advanced.. works good.. and has all the google goodies we all love...
HTC better take notice
hey there,
i was looking at windows 7 area but little confusing if those for HD2 or not? so is there any posssible way to port WM7 into USA Tmobile HD2? if is then please provide the links, files and details procedure. im a begineer person in all these stuff. need help. thanx
Ishtiak said:
hey there,
i was looking at windows 7 area but little confusing if those for HD2 or not? so is there any posssible way to port WM7 into USA Tmobile HD2? if is then please provide the links, files and details procedure. im a begineer person in all these stuff. need help. thanx
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Use search button and learn or your gonna end up bricking or soft bricking your phone .
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HD2 will fully support Windows 7. It is a supported phone and meets the requirments for buttons, resolution, memory, and speed.
T-Mobile will be releasing a free upgrade to Windows 7 later this year for the HD2. Not sure about others but I am sure the chefs will present 7.0 - I am personally not that excited about it.
free_loaderz said:
HD2 will fully support Windows 7. It is a supported phone and meets the requirments for buttons, resolution, memory, and speed.
T-Mobile will be releasing a free upgrade to Windows 7 later this year for the HD2. Not sure about others but I am sure the chefs will present 7.0 - I am personally not that excited about it.
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Really, this is the first I've heard of that. Where did you hear/read that from?
falconeyez said:
Really, this is the first I've heard of that. Where did you hear/read that from?
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It's not..... this thread should probably be closed and free_loaderz be banned...
All the information regarding Windows Phone 7 and HD2 is plastered all over the stickies in the 7 forums. You can't miss it if you know how to read.
Here
And here
Doesn't even require a search it's a sticky right on the top..... come on now.
"Windows 7" is an operating system for PCs.
What is "WM7"?
tai4de2 said:
"Windows 7" is an operating system for PCs.
What is "WM7"?
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It is actually Windows Phone 7
Just the facts folks:
T-Mobile or HTC ARE NOT RELEASING WP7 FOR THE HD2 OR ANY OTHER CURRENT DEVICE
WP7 IS being developed for the HD2....but we don't know if/or it will fully function
Asking for a WP7 ROM or release is grounds for a moderator warning
Please stop posting threads about this.
For further discussion please post in this thread.
It's real, check this out...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/06/htc-hd2-runs-windows-phone-7-makes-us-yearn-for-more-video/
It's awesome. I'm waiting new ROM's with WM7 soon for HD2
calc said:
It's not..... this thread should probably be closed and free_loaderz be banned...
All the information regarding Windows Phone 7 and HD2 is plastered all over the stickies in the 7 forums. You can't miss it if you know how to read.
Doesn't even require a search it's a sticky right on the top..... come on now.
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Yeah but you have to admit, this looks to be a marketing ploy to push people into buying the new phones rather than buying the HD2 or equivalent and installing 7 at the time of release. Eventually, basing this assumption on track records and past experience, they will probably release a downloadable installer for those who meet the minimum requirements. But saying that the phone won't see an upgraded OS because of two extra buttons sounds absurd to me.
The MS devs probably also need to focus on a certain hardware set initially and after bugs are corrected we will probably see OS upgrades available, like they were hinting at before all the hype and hoopla. I don't see why you would suggest banning someone for curiosity, sure this is probably annoying to read over and over. But people are excited and you can't blame them.
WP7 will never come to legacy devices...it's been said by HTC and Microsoft both that legacy devices will never get official WP7 upgrades. People that keep hopeing for official updates really need to embrace reality.
I hope some dev about WM7.
Sorry I see now where to post further about this topic.
you taking this way to serious its just questions. you are typing like u mad over there. WE ARE NOT ALL COMPUTER GEEKS like you. chill out and help out or just keep it to yourself really.
This question has been asked HUNDREDS of times though, thats the problem. People don't understand patience.
1000th post w00t w00t!
Darkstone has a lot of bad news for us. The genius is leaving us for university and now he lost his files and his HD2. Let us get up in arms and donate to replace the genius' HD2.
OOPs! Is it against the rules of the forum?
Whoa! I really appreciate the thoughtfulness but this really isn't necessary!
I sold the HD2, it's no longer in my possession, I didn't lose it xD
I'm always keeping my eye on this forum though
And my files were lost because I got a new laptop and didn't backup the files on my old laptop before selling it
If anyone wants to donate, I highly recommend donating to the developers of the HD2 kernel!
Thanks anyway though
don know y peeps wants to make money out of this site....every devs r retiring becuz they wants to make money,,,bottom line
building a build not of a big deal but the main ingredient for hd2 on android is the haret or kernel or magdlr that made possible by cottula
Which build do you recommend to use except yours darkstone? Mdeejay ?
Is HTC Desire still the best source and will it continue to be so for the unforseen future?
(I heard you have plans of a converter, but I'd like an optimized build with user community)
Thanks btw, been enjoying your builds since day 1!
the main ingredient for ignorant trolls are ignoring and trolling. Why wont you contribute if it's so easy. It's team work that matters, not the individual apps and modules that you mentioned.
No wonder you are a Yankee, you egocentric pessimistic airhead. Because of people like you is the real reason why Devs prefer to make Paid apps instead.
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the main ingredient for ignorant trolls are ignoring and trolling. Why wont you contribute if it's so easy. It's team work that matters, not the individual apps and modules that you mentioned.
No wonder you are a Yankee, you egocentric pessimistic airhead. Because of people like you is the real reason why Devs prefer to make Paid apps instead.
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lol, yankee nothing. he is from bangladesh according to his profile. and the broken english speaks to that effect. though i do not agree with his comments, i appreciate the attempt at speaking english, unlike many other people on this forum........ you know who you are, so dont just sit there going 'que?'
shadowhacker27 said:
the main ingredient for ignorant trolls are ignoring and trolling. Why wont you contribute if it's so easy. It's team work that matters, not the individual apps and modules that you mentioned.
No wonder you are a Yankee, you egocentric pessimistic airhead. Because of people like you is the real reason why Devs prefer to make Paid apps instead.
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And thats y they have market,appstore n market place
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U sounds like mexicano n chino hybrid.go hybrid
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malaeus said:
lol, yankee nothing. he is from bangladesh according to his profile. and the broken english speaks to that effect. though i do not agree with his comments, i appreciate the attempt at speaking english, unlike many other people on this forum........ you know who you are, so dont just sit there going 'que?'
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U sounds like mexicano n chino hybrid.go hybrid
Maricono. thauni ma... hohoho
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ronyalam said:
don know y peeps wants to make money out of this site....every devs r retiring becuz they wants to make money,,,bottom line
building a build not of a big deal but the main ingredient for hd2 on android is the haret or kernel or magdlr that made possible by cottula
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Well, if it's not a big deal where is the link to your own build? Time is money. If the dev wastes his time to give us a cause to brag about our HD2 why is it wrong for him/her to expect support from the users who can appreciate his/her genius? You expect a dev to spend a whole day torturing his brain cells to write codes while he is feeding his belly with air?
I am not a developer. I just love technology and i am just amazed by it and those talents behind it. Take the time to appreciate the magic of what seems trivial like sending a picture wireless to a computer.That is priceless!
When I win the lottery I'll have a special fund set up just for those enthusiastic devs working for free.
Be satisfied in everchanging world
Guys,
All developers have done a great job. I am one of non-developers enjoying builds from various developers starting magician. HD2 was alone last year with hardware capabilities it has. Following recent releases of newer phone with similar or even better hardware with native android support from HTC, requirements of HD2 based android will go down and interest from developers will shift to develop based on new hardware..
Whatever developers have given so far was also beyond thoughts last year. So, I am happy and satisafied with what we have today on this forum. May be some developers are still developeing further. How far we can go? may be sucess in using fully developed Desire HD on HD2 ? Anything beyond that would be not worth waiting without returns. Develpers are entitled to earn something why not!!
Sorry for anything I may have mentioned hurting anybody. Sorry for that.
AS
without dev's hard work and effort, there is no way that your hd2 can perform so well! Originally its just so normal and not much to play with... See now, our hd2 can perform so well and even using android, i'm grateful for all their great efforts.
Fundraising? Count me in!
DarkStone1337 said:
Whoa! I really appreciate the thoughtfulness but this really isn't necessary!
I sold the HD2, it's no longer in my possession, I didn't lose it xD
I'm always keeping my eye on this forum though
And my files were lost because I got a new laptop and didn't backup the files on my old laptop before selling it
If anyone wants to donate, I highly recommend donating to the developers of the HD2 kernel!
Thanks anyway though
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As DarkStone1337 said, he did not lose the phone - he willingly sold it.
I'll close this thread for now, as it would appear it was started solely to solicit donations, despite them not being aware of this.
Hi all
Is it possible to have any version of windows mobile on DHD? With or No dual boot?
Please kick,kickban,dns-ban, h*** even isp ban basically NO.
Why you ask , here is the story.
you want win , wel oke call mircosoft .
umm mircosoft can i put this on my phone.
h*** no !!
can i get the tons of G's of source code then?
ROFLMPO uuu NO!!!
Ow well tnx any way.
Dude Realy
Windows Mobile isn't open source, it's very unlikely that'll happen.
why would you want to i came from win mo and andriod drizzles all over it
I guess if you pay M$ $500000000 they will make it happen.
geez hell no!..
thats like saying...
uhhh..can u plz replace the engine of my ferrari with the engine of a toyota yaris
:cool :
And what's a HD2 compared to a DHD? Answer: a step backwards.
If you want winmo on a DHD, well... keep on dreaming because winmo is dead! Only windows (I)Phone 7 will be put on new devices.
f.
Cut the guy some slack.
I can understand the question. WM6.x is still, at the moment, THE best company mobile OS; tons of apps, legacy code, intra-infrastructure .... WP7 and Android just are not at that level of company wide mobile integration.
Plus, I have to say that programming for WM6.x is the best programming expreience I've had: visual studio, c# and pinvoke when needed make for an easy, fun programming environment. Android is tricky, WP7 is incomplete and locked down ... as a former WM6.x dev who is trying to transition to android on my new DHD, I can understand wanting to just run wm6.x and the programs I've dev'd on my DHD.
maybe he mentioned it wrong.. maybe he was intended to ask either is it possible for WP7 for Desire HD
my answer is, once WP7 is ported to any highly supported by dev phone such as the nexus one.. it might come to desire HD
though im not disagreeing with statement above the HTC desire hd and HD7 have similar spec and size it might be (not really a dev just a thought) easier to port. If im honest i would love to have windows phone on my DHD i like the idea of having 2 nandroids and swapping between them as windows phone brings some nice features and apps to the table.
name 1 app that google cant handel
hahaha...this thread is funny..
Thats like dating Diana Vickers and trading her in for Jo Brand...
Ok, let's go over the rules one more time:
No questions posting in ROM development
Respect other members
report a post if it's against the rules
So, basically, why shouldn't you all be banned?
Seriously though, thread NOT closed.
It' moved ....
Wow, I can't believe I wasted my time trying to decypher your post.
At the moment I don't believe its possible, no. If you want to play with Android and Windows Mobile 7 at the same time, get yourself a HTC HD2 for testing purposes (though I'm not even sure that WM7 roms on the HD2 are actually real)
Different thread same answer......NO
If you want MP7 buy a WP7 device, Android is Open source so you can install it on any hardware, MP7 isn't so you can't.
You're onto drugs huh?
Nice post.
Didn't I closed a thread with the same title a while ago?
I guess I'm losing my sanity Oh well....just to be polite the answer is NO...
Thread closed now.
Regards,
M_T_M
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