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[DISCUSSION] ANDROID/MAEMO/LINUX on HD2 (Discussion Thread)

Okay I'm a lurker on the developer thread and I thought it best to create a separate topic where everyone can talk about it (or complain that people can't shoehorn an OS on a device fast enough for their liking despite the fact that people are doing it for free basically) without all this "DEVELOPER DISCUSSION ONLY AUGUGHGH" "but we don't know where else to post about it"-ism
so this thread is for the non-developer discussion of said project:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578575
(won't let me past "outside links"(?) cos I'm a n00b for some reason)
so there's no excuse now for anyone who posts "when is it done?" in the other thread
Also, a few pointers since some people don't get it and I'd rather save a developers/non-developers civil war thing.
How long will it take? - You're looking at about a year at least. Remember, it's installing an OS on a system that isn't meant to even have it. It's going to take a hell of a lot of time to guesswork and muck around with this stuff.
(all the people moaning on engadget re: the US HD2 launch being all "HTC release an android update right now " and then being all "OH XDA WILL SORT IT OUT" (because apparently xda is their overnight miracle machine) annoy me something chronic for this reason.)
remember too that these people are more or less doing this for free.
Can't you just install the Nexus/Supersonic/etc. rom on there? - No.
from what I understand of the whole thing (I'm not a developer so take this with a pinch of salt) there's an awful lot of different code and such on these things which means it isn't as easy to just "install" it on another OS. It's like asking why you just can't fit a jaguar engine into a VW beetle. It could work, but there'd be a lot of work and rerouting etc. to be made and even then it would need a lot of tuning and sorting out.
Is it ready yet? - No. You will know when it's ready.
What's happening at the moment? - From what I've read of the whole thing they're trying to iron out kinks with the linux Haret thing thats going to run Android. After they've got it to boot, they're going to have to try and get android working with the HD2. This is why it's taking so long.
so yeah.

hey??
yeah but..
this is the xda DEVELOPERS forum
and this is the HD2 DEVELOPEMENT section
so i guess the linux android development thread does what its supposed to !!
i know its frustrating and you like me want android on the hd2 but to be honest i i find half the fun is the bloody long wait and the small progressions that are made, thats how we learn.
=====PEACE=====
edit >> ok looks like this thread was useful after all - my wrong !! ..

**shrug**
A mod can move it elsewhere if needs be, I was just getting sick of all the feuding going on between people who wanted to talk about it and the developers yelling at the people who aren't posting about developing and thought it best to make a separate thread so non-developer people can talk about the project and developer people can drop in and give advice

yeah
actually you got a point.
theres a fair ammount of flame grill on the other thread that does get annoying
i subscribe to the other thread so i get an instant email for every post and i get my email on my hd2 just as you would a text message so it can be a pain.
=====PEACE=====

Ha finally found again this topic.
I am wishing you all my best to port Android to the HD2 because with all the **** around WinMo 7 comptability, you look the only one able to save the HD2 in the future!
I really hope everyday that Android will be working on our HD2...
Btw, the HTC Desire is going to be out soon, and it has the same specification than the HD2... Does it increase the chance got Android on our HD2?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=594
Good luck and all my best !
Zepiii

i hope we get android on our HD2's with spb mobileshell 5.0

Zepiii said:
Ha finally found again this topic.
I am wishing you all my best to port Android to the HD2 because with all the **** around WinMo 7 comptability, you look the only one able to save the HD2 in the future!
I really hope everyday that Android will be working on our HD2...
Btw, the HTC Desire is going to be out soon, and it has the same specification than the HD2... Does it increase the chance got Android on our HD2?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=594
Good luck and all my best !
Zepiii
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All about Gizmondo.com or Gizmondo.fr its bull**** !!
This web site works for Apple its sure !!
Edit : mistake but im sure about Gizmondo

Ok

Too bad we're stuck with low level developers who can't get it done. We need real developers who actually know what they are doing.

simranjits said:
Too bad we're stuck with low level developers who can't get it done. We need real developers who actually know what they are doing.
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Like Android would be wounderfull to have WebOS runing on HD2...a beautifull simbiose with outlook and Itunes integrations.....and push notifications...and light apps for everythink.
I dreaming with that.

simranjits said:
Too bad we're stuck with low level developers who can't get it done. We need real developers who actually know what they are doing.
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Careful now mate. Watch what you say!

simranjits said:
Too bad we're stuck with low level developers who can't get it done. We need real developers who actually know what they are doing.
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Why don't *YOU* take the lead then if you're so capable of passing judgement on other people; as to do that you must have some amazing development skills in getting an operating system running on unknown poorly documented hardware.
Obvioiusly everyone will bow down to your uberleet level of skill when *YOU* present all of the fine work *YOU* have done!
otherwise...
stop being so bloody rude!
Dcordes knows a fair bit more than most people about linux hacking for ppc devices, I suggest you give him the respect he and others deserve!
if this post upsets you think about what you wrote...

I'm hopeing that it will not sound total idiot, but:
why it's not possible to use NexusOne rom dump, and using it for HD2. Hardware is nearly same except buttons and screen size.
thanks

zabique said:
I'm hopeing that it will not sound total idiot, but:
why it's not possible to use NexusOne rom dump, and using it for HD2. Hardware is nearly same except buttons and screen size.
thanks
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Ooooh dear...i´m still wondering why people are that damn lazy these days, not reading just one line in threads that are having 709 posts at this moment...don´t you people think that there should be a 100 percent-likelihood (in a developers-forum!) that another big brain spits out such ideas? exactly 1.000 other so called "newbies" have mentioned this point in the past few weeks...sometimes in every third post, again and again, without having read what other people have posted one line above. This is not about beeing a newbie or not, this is just about a little respect to the developers, serving nice presents to all of us without getting paid for it. what you guys can do for them? well, the first step should be not to spam around questions that already have been answered 1000 times before...instead go and read through the replies and at the end, when you are sure that there is no answer yet (after using the search function too, of course)...THAN ask your question or type in your comments and I think everbody will thank you for your participation in this community.
Sorry zabique, of course this is not against you ...but after reading exactly the same line for the 20st time/last two weeks there was no inhibition of my fingers typing these lines possible

i have a lot of respect for those developers, i die a bit inside every time a noob asks how it is going and **** like that.. anyway its nice they are working on it and i hope they succeed! dual boot windows / android would be really cool to have! i will surely donate if its working.. but to who should i donate? maybe its an idea to make a sort of bounty (lets say i will give $20 for getting android on hd2) and someone else also $20. thats 40 in total. if that 40 is shared and given to the developers that have worked on that project it would be a stimulation for them i guess.. only i dont know what developers are working intensively..
anyway my reward will be $20
more of you are going to join?
maybe its an idea to add the totall's of the $$ and the name who gives what in the first post?

fards said:
Why don't *YOU* take the lead then if you're so capable of passing judgement on other people; as to do that you must have some amazing development skills in getting an operating system running on unknown poorly documented hardware.
Obvioiusly everyone will bow down to your uberleet level of skill when *YOU* present all of the fine work *YOU* have done!
otherwise...
stop being so bloody rude!
Dcordes knows a fair bit more than most people about linux hacking for ppc devices, I suggest you give him the respect he and others deserve!
if this post upsets you think about what you wrote...
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If i wanted to do it myself , would i be bothering myself with these amateurs. At least i know i can't do it, but these guys don't know when to stop. Like i said we need real developers. All they are doing is guesswork and their debuging techniques are crude.

simranjits said:
If i wanted to do it myself , would i be bothering myself with these amateurs. At least i know i can't do it, but these guys don't know when to stop. Like i said we need real developers. All they are doing is guesswork and their debuging techniques are crude.
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Of course with the guy who have your thinking psychologically, we have the desire to continue working.
Maybe now you know guys who are better and who are willing to take the trouble to come and work for free for fun, to the delight of members!
If this is not the case, then dont write!
I think you're not an adult, easy to dictate but to do the works is another thing.

simranjits said:
If i wanted to do it myself , would i be bothering myself with these amateurs. At least i know i can't do it, but these guys don't know when to stop. Like i said we need real developers. All they are doing is guesswork and their debuging techniques are crude.
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all you know is nothing...
so please shut up and let people who do know what they are talking about get on with it..

fards said:
all you know is nothing...
so please shut up and let people who do know what they are talking about get on with it..
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actually he is quite right. if you have any idea what developers are talking about then you can see that all they do is guess in trial and error style. but aparently you dont have any idea

From the viewpoint of a software architect, it's indeed hard to watch the other thread without crinching every once in a while. On the other hand, the plan of attack there seems to be part of a culture that has done stuff like this quite succesfully with other challenges.
So i won't be surprised if we eventually get a nice port of android running on the HD2.
Mind you, i do believe that an undertaking like this would need the infrastructure, tools and mindset like the main android project has in place at the moment. But that would require a "DEVs and Testers only" door policy.
Simply put, the other thread here lets the lesser gods put their 2 cents in too. I'm cool with that.
BTW, i do not approve of any condescending remarks about the the other thread, nor do i wish to make my own through this mail.

Petition for HTC Tattoo upgrade

petitionspot.com/petitions/htctattoo/
Let's see how many we are, and how much we want the upgrade.
Spread the word!

perozzi said:
petitionspot.com/petitions/htctattoo/
Let's see how many we are, and how much we want the upgrade.
Spread the word!
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This won't work, I promise you. I'll sign up anyway though
Also, I think this belongs in the General section.

maybe it won't work, but it's just 2 clicks.
Signed!

I know that it will hardly work, but it is just to see how many angry Tattoo owners are in my condition.
I placed the post in this forum because it is somewhat development related, however if a moderator wants to move it to the general discussion forum it is ok for me.

It wont work, but I sign it anyways, cant hurt to try

signed. another petition should be to remove HTC SenceUI

Yes! Signed!

Better spam HTC with emails.They wont care even if milion people sign it.

Im Signed to

So, let's spam them, too! We should collect a list of relevant email addresses to be contacted both from HTC (obvious) but also from Google, to inform the big brother Google that its main partner in android mobile devices is making some users very disappointed.
I've found a contact form at this address, any other contact possibility?
http://member.htc.com/CustomerService/CS_Mail.aspx

I'have done!

Signed by me, although I've already ranted at them by mail.

signed but im tired of spam them... always the same answer....
i think that dev will develop a new rom with camera before an offcial htc answer...

Maybe it would be good idea if we make some well thought out email so that the all people from this forum start sending it too them every single day.
Thats how spam works.

signed and placed the link at russian forums. We'll win!

JA_SAM said:
Maybe it would be good idea if we make some well thought out email so that the all people from this forum start sending it too them every single day.
Thats how spam works.
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I'm in! I signed the pettition already. But an well thought out email is a great idea. I would love to help, but my english isn't superb, I'm from the Netherlands. But when the email is done, I will help spaming!

to all look at it the logical way
hi
sorry to disappoint u but we are not going to get the update to 2.1
why simple business logic the wildfire is out and HTC would be more intested in selling this phone than giving us a update i also have a Win Mobile jade and never got the officiall 6.5 upgrade but due to so some greats cooks in the jade forum i have been using Wm 6.5 for a long time
im 100% sure that we will have 2.1 or 2.2 fully working rom for us very very soon pls see the development section right now 4 great cooks are doing it and it has come out very good and they are also working on the few things not working like camera and FM so guys be a little patient im sure very very soon we will have what we want
Note : i have also signed the petition
Thanks
hari

Im Signed to.

I've signed it. Hope, HTC some day will update Tatto)

ray of hope or trash
Just found out from following post
there could be an official froyo for HTC tattoo by end of september.
Will call HTC support to find out about it tomorrow
http://androidforums.com/1536486-post63.html
PS: signed the petition as well

FUNDRAISING to REPLACE DARKSTONE HTC HD2

Darkstone has a lot of bad news for us. The genius is leaving us for university and now he lost his files and his HD2. Let us get up in arms and donate to replace the genius' HD2.
OOPs! Is it against the rules of the forum?

Whoa! I really appreciate the thoughtfulness but this really isn't necessary!
I sold the HD2, it's no longer in my possession, I didn't lose it xD
I'm always keeping my eye on this forum though
And my files were lost because I got a new laptop and didn't backup the files on my old laptop before selling it
If anyone wants to donate, I highly recommend donating to the developers of the HD2 kernel!
Thanks anyway though

don know y peeps wants to make money out of this site....every devs r retiring becuz they wants to make money,,,bottom line
building a build not of a big deal but the main ingredient for hd2 on android is the haret or kernel or magdlr that made possible by cottula

Which build do you recommend to use except yours darkstone? Mdeejay ?
Is HTC Desire still the best source and will it continue to be so for the unforseen future?
(I heard you have plans of a converter, but I'd like an optimized build with user community)
Thanks btw, been enjoying your builds since day 1!

the main ingredient for ignorant trolls are ignoring and trolling. Why wont you contribute if it's so easy. It's team work that matters, not the individual apps and modules that you mentioned.
No wonder you are a Yankee, you egocentric pessimistic airhead. Because of people like you is the real reason why Devs prefer to make Paid apps instead.

shadowhacker27 said:
the main ingredient for ignorant trolls are ignoring and trolling. Why wont you contribute if it's so easy. It's team work that matters, not the individual apps and modules that you mentioned.
No wonder you are a Yankee, you egocentric pessimistic airhead. Because of people like you is the real reason why Devs prefer to make Paid apps instead.
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lol, yankee nothing. he is from bangladesh according to his profile. and the broken english speaks to that effect. though i do not agree with his comments, i appreciate the attempt at speaking english, unlike many other people on this forum........ you know who you are, so dont just sit there going 'que?'

shadowhacker27 said:
the main ingredient for ignorant trolls are ignoring and trolling. Why wont you contribute if it's so easy. It's team work that matters, not the individual apps and modules that you mentioned.
No wonder you are a Yankee, you egocentric pessimistic airhead. Because of people like you is the real reason why Devs prefer to make Paid apps instead.
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And thats y they have market,appstore n market place
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U sounds like mexicano n chino hybrid.go hybrid
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malaeus said:
lol, yankee nothing. he is from bangladesh according to his profile. and the broken english speaks to that effect. though i do not agree with his comments, i appreciate the attempt at speaking english, unlike many other people on this forum........ you know who you are, so dont just sit there going 'que?'
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U sounds like mexicano n chino hybrid.go hybrid
Maricono. thauni ma... hohoho
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ronyalam said:
don know y peeps wants to make money out of this site....every devs r retiring becuz they wants to make money,,,bottom line
building a build not of a big deal but the main ingredient for hd2 on android is the haret or kernel or magdlr that made possible by cottula
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Well, if it's not a big deal where is the link to your own build? Time is money. If the dev wastes his time to give us a cause to brag about our HD2 why is it wrong for him/her to expect support from the users who can appreciate his/her genius? You expect a dev to spend a whole day torturing his brain cells to write codes while he is feeding his belly with air?
I am not a developer. I just love technology and i am just amazed by it and those talents behind it. Take the time to appreciate the magic of what seems trivial like sending a picture wireless to a computer.That is priceless!
When I win the lottery I'll have a special fund set up just for those enthusiastic devs working for free.

Be satisfied in everchanging world
Guys,
All developers have done a great job. I am one of non-developers enjoying builds from various developers starting magician. HD2 was alone last year with hardware capabilities it has. Following recent releases of newer phone with similar or even better hardware with native android support from HTC, requirements of HD2 based android will go down and interest from developers will shift to develop based on new hardware..
Whatever developers have given so far was also beyond thoughts last year. So, I am happy and satisafied with what we have today on this forum. May be some developers are still developeing further. How far we can go? may be sucess in using fully developed Desire HD on HD2 ? Anything beyond that would be not worth waiting without returns. Develpers are entitled to earn something why not!!
Sorry for anything I may have mentioned hurting anybody. Sorry for that.
AS

without dev's hard work and effort, there is no way that your hd2 can perform so well! Originally its just so normal and not much to play with... See now, our hd2 can perform so well and even using android, i'm grateful for all their great efforts.
Fundraising? Count me in!

DarkStone1337 said:
Whoa! I really appreciate the thoughtfulness but this really isn't necessary!
I sold the HD2, it's no longer in my possession, I didn't lose it xD
I'm always keeping my eye on this forum though
And my files were lost because I got a new laptop and didn't backup the files on my old laptop before selling it
If anyone wants to donate, I highly recommend donating to the developers of the HD2 kernel!
Thanks anyway though
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As DarkStone1337 said, he did not lose the phone - he willingly sold it.
I'll close this thread for now, as it would appear it was started solely to solicit donations, despite them not being aware of this.

Project 7 Evo 4G, 7he 7rouble is 7ha7 some7imes drives fail

miphonematt said:
I think I have some sort of structure now. It's insanely buggy. It fails ALMOST immediately. At least it sort of tries to boot WP7... sort of. I still have quite a bit of research and trial and error still to come, but I believe I'm on to something where before I really felt like I was stabbing in the dark. Trap the errors, trap the errors, trap the errors and debuuuuuuuug.
I think I might be going insane haha.......I look forward to the day that I have something worth posting......so shut down....naysayers. We're still a ways from that day still unfortunately.
[.....]My apprearances may be scarce for the next 4 days.......I'll be back for certain.
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Opening up a Nexus One thread.
wow holy revers kirfing batman they beat us to it
KIRF=keeping it real fake lol
apocali3
So yeah This is the thread for the Project 7 Evo(Temp. name.) we are currently calling this a Project. We must be patient. This will take several months to complete.
so vote on the Poll what you are wanting to run on your EVO
vote this thread also to be on the front page.
Windows Phone 7 on the HTC EVO 4G, imagine the possibilities
Development so far
Myn(developer)
miphonematt (developer)
Lui22(tester[if the team agrees on it])
PEOPLE WHOM MIGHT BE A GREAT CONTRIBUTOR
Echoside(maybe)
.....
The list will grow
the bounty is
jlechner said:
Is anyone keeping a list of the "b" word? If so, put me down for $100 as well.
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aimbdd said:
yeah. for everyone in this thread we are at about 275
535 including both threads.
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Thank you aimbdd for keeping count!!!!
miphonematt said:
I'd also like to level set with all the folks that are anxious to get WP7 on their EVO. I guarantee you that this is at least 60 days out until it is safe enough for anyone other than the dev(s) to test/flash.
We should add the word "Project" to the Subject of this thread. We should also add the rule "Do Not Ask for an ETA" in Bold, All Caps, bright red text. That is by far one of The Most irritating things to a dev, and I've known it to cause devs to not post progress updates. That is the number 1 rule of etiquette for projects like this. I hope everyone in this thread can understand and respect that.
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these changes have been applied for the greater good
overground; said:
Originally Posted by overground
We allow these, but do not heavily moderate them. If things turn sour, most we're going to do is close the thread. I recently closed and subsequently reopened one of these....kinda the same policy as the MP...hands off / donator beware.
jwzg said:
Overground is also a Sr. Mod. Please do NOT report a bounty thread unless there are flames or someone has been scammed. Other than that, we'll keep a close eye on it.
Nuff said. The moderators.
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Dear Devs,
We thank you for your service. We thank you for all the new roms that make our devices unique. We thank you for the apps that you built for us, that make our phones ours not the companies. Because of you we can express our individuality.
With that being said, we ask one more thing from you. We ask you to take our devices to the next level. We ask you to push the borders once again. Let us all come together and create a TRULY COMMUNITY BUILT PORT of WP7 for our devices. A difficult feat none the less, but we can do it, TOGETHER.
Personally I think we can build this project to rival Cyanogen mod, rival not in our perice of software is better then yours but in that the amount of community members and, contributions of sofware, are friendyer and more together. Rivals and friends at the same time.
This is an open bounty for any team of developers that can get a working port of WP7 that boots and can at least have Wi-Fi working.
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Reserved for Rules
1. No negative remarks
2. Our Purpose here is to help eachother so lets do that.
3. No Gloating.
4. No saying negative remarks about other devs, or community members.
5. Pressing the "Thanks" button every time someone finds something is greatly encouraged.
6. STAY ON TOPIC!!!!
7. Only dev teams can mention anything about license.
8. DO NOT ASK FOR ETA's remember this is a project no guarentee of complete succes....., as of yet
9. Just because you can post does not mean you should do it. Post things that are of some worth to the project

it's great to see wp7 working on evo

im in to help since i know a little windows
ill be talking to people about how this needs to pan out while out to sea this week and will update this post as things come in.

thanks guys tell as many people as you can and vote for this thread!!

I PM'd an HD2 developer about what we need to make this work. I don't know what half of this stuff is.
Original Message:
Hi
First of all you will need a "magldr" for your device.
without being able to flash it it's not possible at all.
i guess you need to talk to cotulla about this.
You also need proper drivers for the hardware (this will be a problem i guess)..
i wish you good luck.
Xda-Member: hd2owner

**still ready to beta test

Hopefully this thread actually gets off the ground. I would absolutely LOVE for this to eventually be a reality.

The HTC Evo does not have a Windows Mobile license...

License?
Oh, that... it's for purely educational purposes LOL
We don't want to really run wp7... just see if it will!
Tapatalked from my SUpersonic...

I am sure Microsoft would hate if more people used windows phone 7 and purchased from their market... N2m several people pointed out in the last thread that hd2 isnt liscensed for wp7 either. Anyways I am good for 25 with working netflix :-D

derekwilkinson said:
The HTC Evo does not have a Windows Mobile license...
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hd2 doesnt have a wp7 license either.
hopefully someone will pick this up i would try out wp7.

This is going to die real fast,lol, and i dont think it should be ported even if it could, if you wanted this you should have bought a WP7 instead of evo.

ThatSmartB0y said:
This is going to die real fast,lol, and i dont think it should be ported even if it could, if you wanted this you should have bought a WP7 instead of evo.
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That's one of the most idiotic statements I've ever read. Most of us bought Evos over 7 months ago, before WP7 was even released. Now we want to be able to run WP7, just like the HD2 users can.
And I think it's ridiculous if this thread, or this whole movement is shut down by the mods. Neither the HD2 nor the Evo have Windows Phone 7 licenses. If they can do it, so can we.

bjb_nyj101 said:
That's one of the most idiotic statements I've ever heard. Most of us bought Evos over 7 months ago, before WP7 was even released. Now we want to be able to run WP7, just like the HD2 users can.
And I think it's ridiculous if this thread, or this whole movement is shut down by the mods. Neither the HD2 nor the Evo have Windows Phone 7 licenses. If they can do it, so can we.
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umm...at&t is always open to new customers...or amazon is preordering the htc arriveWP7 on sprint) for 50 bucks.

Stay on topic. Don't even respond to negative people or it'll just get deleted again.
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ThatSmartB0y said:
umm...at&t is always open to new customers...or amazon is preordering the htc arriveWP7 on sprint) for 50 bucks.
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umm that deal is for new customers if someone has an evo im guessing they have a contract with sprint already...anymore arguments?

jersey221 said:
umm that deal is for new customers if someone has an evo im guessing they have a contract with sprint already...anymore arguments?
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let me think...well theres always digging into you bank acc and ending you contract early then going to at&t

http://forum.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?p=744808#post744808
i will not host the project on this site. we do need a dev, the thread is now located here.

ThatSmartB0y said:
let me think...well theres always digging into you bank acc and ending you contract early then going to at&t
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by that post you pretty much just said you have no other valid arguments...

The HTC Developer Center

http://twitter.com/#!/htcdev
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter
I think that these developers must be able to help us! Do not know which strategy should be best to use;
-we all go and flood on Twiter
-xdadevelopers schlund, munjeni, derefas to ask specific assistance.
-all of us sent mail and ask them to sell us Android for hd mini.
...but a damned possibility must exist
We have more than enough arguments, we want Android on HTC HD Mini.
We tried alone, Microsoft has gone, as if we did not buy phones.

lol
they don't give a f***
btw this is development forum..so let's keep it clean for developers,ok?

I agree but there must be a way to change that, if we try together.
Where to write about this if not here?

bas.bas said:
I agree but there must be a way to change that, if we try together.
no..as i said is not any way,HTC is focusing on building new devices,not on porting Android on HTC HD Mini(apart from that this will be a silly request lol )
Where to write about this if not here?
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We have General Forum here

tzacapaca said:
We have General Forum here
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Now I can not change, you must contact wardfan220. If you have a solution about Thread topic would be happy to hear and if not, then nothing.
btw above you quoted me wrong.

would you contact BMW demanding technical details of non user serviceable parts because you want to install an engine that is not supported? I guess not. certain things are not supported for a reason. htc sells hd mini as wm branded phone and there is no way htc will support android on it. possibly due to licensing agreements? lol grow up. hd mini is a failed phone, most of us keep it as a spare/play phone. if you or anybody WANTS working android mobile then buy galaxy s2 or htc hd2. hd mini android development is just crazy and challenging hobby. they finish it when they have time and want it.