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Lets say if I theoretically shut off my vibrant and call T-Mobile and told them I lost my vibrant while shopping. Paid the insurance fee for another vibrant. Once I received my vibrant, gave my old vibrant to my girl, would she be able to use it or would T-Mobile lock the phone? And if T-Mobile would lock my original phone, is there a way to unlock it and use it? Just theoretically speaking!
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I suggest you ask T-Mobile directly....

Insurance fraud...

Theoretically you would be committing a crime. Not going to be an accessory.
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They can't"lock" it but I assume it'd be confusing if you both had the same sim card...but if she has a T-Mobile similar card of her own with data plans and etc yes it would work and T-Mobile wouldn't find out this is similar to buying the vibrant for $500 without the Contract.
So yes. Do what I said and it will work
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Your Sooooo Smart
Something to think about however. [Side note: I love how stupid criminals always post there illegal activities publicly and get caught. I will be listening for this one on my local radio station's "To stupid to live" spot in the near future.]
You post this in a VERY public VERY highly trafficed public forum frequented by both developers and T-Mobile employees. You used your normal account that already has your location (Bakersfield), 10 prior posts, and (via a warrant that you gave cause for with you original post) log files that tie you to your IP address with dates and times of every time you visit this site. Surely most if not all of those IP addresses (assuming they are dynamic and actually change) all belong to the same ISP who can easily look at there records and see which subscriber had the IP address at those times. Your ISP has your real name, address, phone number etc.
Two warrants later and the circumstantial evidence just became concrete enough to convict you.
But please, tell us more of your theoretical plan.

Nothing will happen, I done it with a few phones from tmobile. One thing though they wont send you the phone completly free, you will pay something like $50
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mikaeldalc said:
Lets say if I theoretically shut off my vibrant and call T-Mobile and told them I lost my vibrant while shopping...
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To start with this crap makes the cost of products go up for the ready off us that don't game the system...but hey, go for it, see of you get caught.
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mikaeldalc said:
Lets say if I theoretically shut off my vibrant and call T-Mobile and told them I lost my vibrant while shopping. Paid the insurance fee for another vibrant. Once I received my vibrant, gave my old vibrant to my girl, would she be able to use it or would T-Mobile lock the phone? And if T-Mobile would lock my original phone, is there a way to unlock it and use it? Just theoretically speaking!
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I hope they use your cell phone imei and prosecute you

nomadrider123 said:
I hope they use your cell phone imei and prosecute you
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Oh Snap! I totally missed the "Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App" part when I explained earlier exactly how they wold find him. The ID10T actually sent this crap from his phone!! When his girlfriend uses the "LOST" phone they can bust them both.
LOL

I wont go into a big long post about how your theory is wrong (criminal), or how you will be caught its been covered. Oh wait nobody mentioned karma. I'll just say that its people like you that make it hard for the rest of us. First you drive up prices. Second you make it so that people with legitimate claims have to jump through hoops. So go ahead on with your fraud I for one know that if you go ahead with your scheme karma will catch up.
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T313C0mun1s7 said:
Something to think about however. [Side note: I love how stupid criminals always post there illegal activities publicly and get caught. I will be listening for this one on my local radio station's "To stupid to live" spot in the near future.]
You post this in a VERY public VERY highly trafficed public forum frequented by both developers and T-Mobile employees. You used your normal account that already has your location (Bakersfield), 10 prior posts, and (via a warrant that you gave cause for with you original post) log files that tie you to your IP address with dates and times of every time you visit this site. Surely most if not all of those IP addresses (assuming they are dynamic and actually change) all belong to the same ISP who can easily look at there records and see which subscriber had the IP address at those times. Your ISP has your real name, address, phone number etc.
Two warrants later and the circumstantial evidence just became concrete enough to convict you.
But please, tell us more of your theoretical plan.
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Yeah right. Them doing any of this for one phone, highly unlikely. The legal system sucks. Sad but true.
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vetvito said:
Yeah right. Them doing any of this for one phone, highly unlikely. The legal system sucks. Sad but true.
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Don't worry, he's a wuss, that's why he came here to ask instead of just doing it. The fact that they can easily find out will be enough to scare him, doesn't matter if they actually do it.

Telanis said:
Don't worry, he's a wuss, that's why he came here to ask instead of just doing it. The fact that they can easily find out will be enough to scare him, doesn't matter if they actually do it.
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how about that lady that got taken to court for downloading songs from napster she is facing a 21k fine different I know but why take the chance

This was a hypothetical question...ammirighhtt?? Two words eye may.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.

Hey hey, this is just theoretically thinking. Why all the hate mail... u
If it happens sooner or later, it would just b coincidence........

mikaeldalc said:
Hey hey, this is just theoretically thinking. Why all the hate mail... u
If it happens sooner or later, it would just b coincidence........
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Dude, you are scum. Dispense with the humor, because no one is amused by jerkoffs like you.
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mikaeldalc said:
Lets say if I theoretically shut off my vibrant and call T-Mobile and told them I lost my vibrant while shopping. Paid the insurance fee for another vibrant. Once I received my vibrant, gave my old vibrant to my girl, would she be able to use it or would T-Mobile lock the phone? And if T-Mobile would lock my original phone, is there a way to unlock it and use it? Just theoretically speaking!
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Well just theoretically speaking you would theoretically go to jail because that is theoretically insurance fraud and T-Mobile & Asurion, the theoretical insurance company about which you theoretically speak of can theoretically track IMEI's in use, and since Asurion is the primary theoretical insurance company for every theoretical wireless carrier, they would theoretically be able to track it no matter which theoretical wireless company your theoretical girlfriend was theoretically on. Theoretically speaking, of course.

Our Fight Against Motorola & VZW

If you haven't heard all ready Verizon is tracking down root users and limiting there data or fully suspending it so watch out. But we have to fight back against them by hiding Verizon from seeing that we are proudly rooted and some people have said the would sue Verizon. Please do whatever you can to fight against this.
Also motorola and htc are going to start doing the same.

Source? Where was this announced?

PixoNova said:
Source? Where was this announced?
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http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html#post65013

I would like to know how it is even possible for them to detect root. Seems android becoming more closed to me
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Ya, the android world ain't looking too bright.
No sideloading
No tethering (for free)
No emulating
No rooting
No updating

So far the Atrix is GSM only so I'm not sure how much fervor there's going to be against VZW in this particular forum.
I'm more concerned about the messages ATT has been sending out to iphone users telling them to cease tethering or be automatically switched to a tethering plan.

Wow that's some crazy ****. Someone made a good point after the article, apple tried to fight jail breaking and lost. So why can't we fight.
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sagerox said:
Wow that's some crazy ****. Someone made a good point after the article, apple tried to fight jail breaking and lost. So why can't we fight.
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no apple did't tried to fight the jailbreak community they realized that is in their best interest if they just pretend that jailbreaking doesn't exists, like this they can keep everybody happy, regular users and jailbreakers

How the hell am I post to install my antivirus that isnt on market place if I cant side load either or even use amazon app store.
-illusion

sagerox said:
Wow that's some crazy ****. Someone made a good point after the article, apple tried to fight jail breaking and lost. So why can't we fight.
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This is actually a rather interesting situation. The DMCA and subsequent Apple lawsuit has established both the legislation and court precedent that you can unlock and jailbreak/root your mobile phone if you so wish (mobile phones only so far, tablets do not qualify under the DMCA exemption).
I believe any language in a VZW contract contradicting these consumer rights you're afforded under the law would be considered null and void. VZW limiting or terminating the data service you've paid for and signed a contract to receive just because you've rooted your phone should be considered a breach of contract by VZW and allow you to leave without ETF...
Maybe VZW's on to something! Buy phone, sign contract, root phone, get data suspended, terminate contract for breach of terms...Profit?

rboone18 said:
I would like to know how it is even possible for them to detect root. Seems android becoming more closed to me
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Motorola, HTC, and Verizon are developing a software to track us.

Kueller said:
So far the Atrix is GSM only so I'm not sure how much fervor there's going to be against VZW in this particular forum.
I'm more concerned about the messages ATT has been sending out to iphone users telling them to cease tethering or be automatically switched to a tethering plan.
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But motorola could release this in an update

Kueller said:
This is actually a rather interesting situation. The DMCA and subsequent Apple lawsuit has established both the legislation and court precedent that you can unlock and jailbreak/root your mobile phone if you so wish (mobile phones only so far, tablets do not qualify under the DMCA exemption).
I believe any language in a VZW contract contradicting these consumer rights you're afforded under the law would be considered null and void. VZW limiting or terminating the data service you've paid for and signed a contract to receive just because you've rooted your phone should be considered a breach of contract by VZW and allow you to leave without ETF...
Maybe VZW's on to something! Buy phone, sign contract, root phone, get data suspended, terminate contract for breach of terms...Profit?
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The profit part makes perfect sense.

tyvallely said:
But motorola could release this in an update
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Release an update that does what? Limit or suspend your data services? Why and How would Moto go about doing that?
If you haven't heard all ready Verizon is tracking down root users and limiting there data or fully suspending it so watch out. But we have to fight back against them by hiding Verizon from seeing that we are proudly rooted and some people have said the would sue Verizon.
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There's the Why (VZW), and also the How (also VZW). And neither the Why nor the How have anything to do with the Atrix.
Wrong forum.

Kueller said:
Release an update that does what? Limit or suspend your data services? Why and How would Moto go about doing that?
There's the Why (VZW), and also the How (also VZW). And neither the Why nor the How have anything to do with the Atrix.
Wrong forum.
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No no no no like enable the tracking feature. And no its the right forum because motorola or verizon could do it. ATT is next to do so.

what does this have to do with the Atrix?

Well if motorola releases the tracking update then its a problem for motorola devices. The last time I checked it was made by motorola. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

ChumleyEX said:
what does this have to do with the Atrix?
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Because other carriers will start doing the same thing. Classic case of monkey see, monkey do.
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At&T will just have a superuser fee, no worries, ill pay it

Why would they have to release any form of tracking software or update, they can already see what software you have loaded on your device. Any device running a program requiring root, automatically defines you as having rooted your device

Tethering On Gingerbread

Running liberty v.4 gingerbread on my dx. Yesterday I went to try and use my theathering application, and it directed me to the verizon page for 3g mobil hotspot and usb thethering. Is this a problem faced by all who use gingerbread? and if so has there been a solution posted anywhere to allow me to still be able to tether on gingerbread? I never had this issue until I went to gingerbread, and will flash back to 2.2 if I need to in order to be able to tether. Any input is always apprecitaed! thanks

Try using wireless tether from the market instead

Ive been using pdanet ever since the p3droid warning... Ive heard that people are still using the wifi tether app
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I am using wifi tether, and it works, but when I want to get back online from my phone, it kicks me over to the verizon page telling me that I have to pay to tether, and I have to restart my phone to be able to search the internet.

I'm using the market wifi tether with the tbh patcher applied. Its tricky to get started, but once I do, it stays connected.
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I've actually just been bluetooth tethering to my transformer
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i flat stayed on froyo fission 261 cause it runs fine and i dont like being screwed with by processes i cant find or not being able to delete things i want to delete from the system....

Tethering is the reason the heat is coming down on us rooters. Don't do it.

rocko73 said:
Tethering is the reason the heat is coming down on us rooters. Don't do it.
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It is ok to do it, just don't be one of those jerks who uses 200+gb a month

Jmoney47 said:
It is ok to do it, just don't be one of those jerks who uses 200+gb a month
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If you are under contract with verizon (I.E. the one or two year contract offered in order to obtain a discount on your mobile device) then rooting your phone is illegal as well as teathering with out paying the service fee! If you are not under a contract then it is leagal to do as you wish to or with your own phone, including but not limited to rooting, teathering, and cloning another device owned by you (also not under contract) for your own use and purpose!!!

First off, this thread was not started to create an argument or debate on the legalities of tethering or rooting. Now that being said, how is tethering illegal? We should be able to use our "unlimited" data package however we wish. From my understanding, there is a difference between tethering and the mobile 3g hotspot which makes the way they both go about producing the wireless internet different. Again though, this is not the point, I was simply hoping someone could help me, if i wanted to be lectured on what I was doing wrong, I would have asked "hey, is this something that is wrong or not" can we please stay on topic?

here we go....

faber78 said:
here we go....
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lol i know right... -_-
anyway...I am hoping myself to find out how I can get some tether going on my droid x with GB..Don't wanna have to SBF back 2 froyo..

smiteme said:
First off, this thread was not started to create an argument or debate on the legalities of tethering or rooting. Now that being said, how is tethering illegal? We should be able to use our "unlimited" data package however we wish. From my understanding, there is a difference between tethering and the mobile 3g hotspot which makes the way they both go about producing the wireless internet different. Again though, this is not the point, I was simply hoping someone could help me, if i wanted to be lectured on what I was doing wrong, I would have asked "hey, is this something that is wrong or not" can we please stay on topic?
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seriously I agree stop lecturing on tethering, people are going to do it regardless... go onto a different forum for its illegal and what not geez
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jalupinja said:
If you are under contract with verizon (I.E. the one or two year contract offered in order to obtain a discount on your mobile device) then rooting your phone is illegal as well as teathering with out paying the service fee! If you are not under a contract then it is leagal to do as you wish to or with your own phone, including but not limited to rooting, teathering, and cloning another device owned by you (also not under contract) for your own use and purpose!!!
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Tethering and rooting is in absolutely no way illegal and does not even go against the terms of service. If you are against rooting then you truly don't belong on a DEVELOPERS forum.
Anyway, what I would recommend is trying wireless tether, if that doesn't work, you could try a wired tethering service such as PDAnet or easytether which is what I use

yikes
Tethering doesn't work in GB? F that, I'll stay on .340.
What a bunch of big red hookers...try'n to snarf up the wifi tethers.

Jmoney47 said:
Tethering and rooting is in absolutely no way illegal and does not even go against the terms of service.
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http://tinyurl.com/vzwtos1
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jalupinja said:
If you are under contract with verizon (I.E. the one or two year contract offered in order to obtain a discount on your mobile device) then rooting your phone is illegal as well as teathering with out paying the service fee! If you are not under a contract then it is leagal to do as you wish to or with your own phone, including but not limited to rooting, teathering, and cloning another device owned by you (also not under contract) for your own use and purpose!!!
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Rooting is not illegal. What penal code refers to this? It simply voids your warranty.

jalupinja said:
If you are under contract with verizon (I.E. the one or two year contract offered in order to obtain a discount on your mobile device) then rooting your phone is illegal as well as teathering with out paying the service fee! If you are not under a contract then it is leagal to do as you wish to or with your own phone, including but not limited to rooting, teathering, and cloning another device owned by you (also not under contract) for your own use and purpose!!!
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The fifth us circuit court has deemed there is no legal basis to prevent users from gaining higher level access to their devices. As for contract obligations, there are no stipulations against rooting, rather it voids the warranty, which is acceptable. Teathering is a bit of a gray area. There are two schools of thought. You obviously highlight one, but I believe in the other. That being that I signed up for a data plan at $29.99 a month that allows for my usage of as much data as I desire. (Unlimited, as in not restricted) As teathering is a feature of the android device I purchased, I am using my unlimited data plan in a manner I see fit. And lastly, I would love a direct quote of the verizon service agreement you draw this conclusion from.
Back onto topic, the TBH patcher works with wireless teather. The trick with the patcher is to flash it in CWM a few times, reboot, start teather, then flash it a few more times. Whatever the difference was, it works well for me.
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This was enough to stop me right in my tracks:
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Tethering is the reason the heat is coming down on us rooters. Don't do it.
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I thought to myself; "self....rocko73 just gave you a direct order. you better listen up and straighten out...."
lulz....

How to get a an early upgrade ATT

I'm a relatively new att customer and the note was just annoinced and id like to get it for the contract price. Does anyone know workarounds to get it
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mariol66 said:
I'm a relatively new att customer and the note was just annoinced and id like to get it for the contract price. Does anyone know workarounds to get it
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when is your upgrade....
can do 30 days prior to your date call cs

I just got my plan in december so I'm locked in for awhile but I didn't know ajything about the note then so idk cn I claim my phone stolen?
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Hmm...for a note you'd have to get it outside att now....if you upgraded last december...
Stolen..not really...unless you have insurance and willing to pay the deductable....
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mariol66 said:
I'm a relatively new att customer and the note was just annoinced and id like to get it for the contract price. Does anyone know workarounds to get it
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My mom recently called complaining that her device was malfunctioning and they replaced her handset, she went through this process 3 times and at that point she said not to send her another phone, that she wanted a different phone. After many calls to customer service we finally got a hold of a really nice representative and she worked with her and she was able to "upgrade" to a Samsung Infuse which is MUCH nicer than the one she has now.

I had some legitimate issues with the Evo 4G, where my data connection would drop whenever I was inside a building, but as soon as I would get outside, or into the Sprint store, everything would run flawlessly. They kept telling me that there was nothing they could do because to them, it was working fine.. They told me, you can send your phone back for them to give you a new one, but that required me being without a Smart Phone for a week (which with my job, I use my Smart Phone everyday! I told them that was unacceptable) After many calls and complaints, I went into the store to get a new phone, where they informed me that there was a note on my account to let me get an early upgrade.
I think if you really want to get a different phone already, it might just be as simple as complaining that there is something wrong with your phone. However, they might want you to ship it back to have them give you a new phone of the same make (leaving you without a phone for a week or two) a few times before they even think about letting you get a different phone.
Try to find a legitimate flaw with your current phone, something that can't exactly be corrected, some seldom used feature that just doesn't work correctly, then complain like it's the end of the world

Your neighborhood Verizon Account Rep - ask me!

If anyone has any questions or concerns please feel free to ask.
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It's a trap! o>O

No its not. I work for verizon
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Okay here's a ? How can I prevent scammers from calling me without using a app? I keep getting a scam call saying that big red has awarded me soso amount off my bill and they keep changing the # and when ever I call vzw to report it they act like it's not their problem thanks
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Mhm...definitely strange. I have heard of that scenario as well from some of customers. First off if your getting a call saying that they awarded you some money of your bill thats a lie. Two...if anyone calls you saying that they can save you money on your verizon bill then that could be a local verizon account rep your speaking with. However if that turns out to be the case they will normally attempt to set up an appointment with you to come in to a local store so they can do an waa with you (wireless account analysis) to see what can be done on your account to see if they can help you save a couple bucks a month, see if you have any available upgrades and etc. Three...if they are not directing you to a local store then thats extremely fishy. 4. As far as blocking spammers from calling you without using a app would really depends o what device you currently have. I have a note 3 and it provides exellent call blocking, text blocking and etc features. Which device do you currently have?
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How can I add a line with unlimited data?
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Verizon no longer currently offers a unlimited plan to new lines of service. The only way you can have the unlimited data plan currently is by a having grandfathered in or b talking to a friend or family member who has a line that with the unlimited plan that they will be willing to give up to you through the means of assumptions of liabilites meaning if they would be willing to give up the line to you...you then can take over that line of service and put it under your name. However by doing so they will run your credit again to see if your aproved to take over that line. Also added benefit in doing so is that wherever that person left off in their contract would be where you would continue off from. By taken over the line ut does not require you to restart the contract of that new line you just took over and put underneath your name.
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Can we please keep the ability to root the device? I feel that a Locked Bootloader, even though not ideal, is okay as long as Verizon keeps the device relatively updated. (Or to put in other words, I don't think that Verizon would ever allow the bootloader to be unlocked).
But without root, there are a lot of features that Samsung have removed (such as the ability to add Widgets to the lock screen when it is locked) and wouldn't be accessible to us even though it is available to most other android devices. Same with backups.

Ive heard talks about this petition to unlock the bootloader for the note 3 but to be honest ive not heard any confirmation or caught any wind of verizon actually doing that. And yeah I see what your saying. And I can add lockscreen widgets to my note 3 without root.
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App widgets or any type of widgets to the lockscreen? Such as the clean master one touch boost widget om your lockscreen for example?
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VillaCastana321 said:
If anyone has any questions or concerns please feel free to ask.
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tell your boss to tell his boss to tell his boss to tell his boss to tell his boss to tell his boss to stop locking down F'n Verizon Phones

Lmao ill be sure to voice your input haha
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Any news on when the Pink variant might come to Verizon?

Sorry but unfortunately at this time there hasn't been any official updates as to when or if wether or not verizon will actually be offering the note 3 pink.
Verizon Account Rep - Note 3

I'm having crackling and poping sounds from my earpiece and the home button is wobbly. I am getting a certified refurbished replacement in the morning. If the replacement has issues what are the chances of getting a brand new device?? I haven't had the best luck with refurbished replacement. And are the certified refurbished replacement really refurbished?? I mean the phone hasn't been out a month yet.

I live in an area with the worst service for Verizon. I never receive calls or texts. My only option is a network extender. Is it possible to get one for free? I spent $400 on this phone and now I'm locked down for 2 years. I don't wanna spend another $300 to use the phone I just bought. -_-
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What does the new update that was just released for the Note 3 improve?
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@Southern mind im sorry about the problems your having with your find. As far ar you getting a new device your chance might be 65% id say since the device is still new. How many fully refurbished phones can corporate really have so far since the phone just came out? Its not even been a momth yet since the phone came out.
Verizon Account Rep - Note 3

And since the phone just came out that certified refurbished device may not really be one. Could be brand spanking new
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@eurofeik hey bud. And the coverage within your area is that bad? What type of device do you have by the way? Is it a 3g device or a 4g? For the price you said you spent on the phone am guessing you probably have a 4g device if so thats strabge your signal is that bad because normally with our 4g devices the technology increases in building penetration, voice quality and reception. Also what area do you live near? So I can look furthermore in to details for you? And I cant promise you that they will give you one for free but have you also tried calling customer care and seeing what they say?
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