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Disgruntled Evo owners

Have a super 4g phone but no 4g? Please give me a break! You knew 4g was limited when you bought you're phone. http://defraudedconsumer.com/Sprint4G/
What will they think of next? Hell they even have fruit roll-ups on the chopping block
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This **** here is starting to work my nerves. I wish these cheap mofos would just go buy a damn flip phone or something and stop complaining. I REALLY could think of a ton of other things to do with my time than focus on this. People really need lives.

For me I love my Evo wouldn't have it any other way just sharing with the community on current news about what's going on with our phone.
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I knew my area was limited on 4G and I still bought the Evo 4G.
I have patience to wait for 4G in my area, this isn't "defrauding". Some people just have way too much flipping time on their hands and want to cause rukus whenever they find a chance to.
Losers.
I love my Evo 3G!!!

I think the fee is alright if there is 4g in the future, but seriously I'm in detroit and nothing on the horizon so far....they are throwing 4g in these podunk towns and ignoring major metropolitan areas....what gives?

Dear Bailey Perrin Bailey:
Go get yourselves coited. You bought the EVO knowing that there were limited areas that 4G was working, and you were free to look up those areas on Sprint's site anytime. You bought the EVO knowing that there would be a $10 premium data charge whether or not you had access to a 4G network.
You made choices using the information available and now you must deal with them.
Angrily Yours,
ZachPA
Dear Sprint:
I believe you are about to be a defendant in a class action suit. It seems that this suit is based on laws that revolve around what a reasonable person might be able to ascertain based on facts available.
In other words, I am a reasonable person, and I knew both that 4G wasn't available at my home or office, and that I would still be paying $10 extra per month for premium data. What's more, I am perfectly happy with my decision.
If you need someone to testify on your behalf, call me.
Love,
ZachPA

^ WHS.
(Love the use of "coit yourself"!)

Ya thought that was pretty funny myself
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ZachPA said:
Dear Bailey Perrin Bailey:
Go get yourselves coited. You bought the EVO knowing that there were limited areas that 4G was working, and you were free to look up those areas on Sprint's site anytime. You bought the EVO knowing that there would be a $10 premium data charge whether or not you had access to a 4G network.
You made choices using the information available and now you must deal with them.
Angrily Yours,
ZachPA
Dear Sprint:
I believe you are about to be a defendant in a class action suit. It seems that this suit is based on laws that revolve around what a reasonable person might be able to ascertain based on facts available.
In other words, I am a reasonable person, and I knew both that 4G wasn't available at my home or office, and that I would still be paying $10 extra per month for premium data. What's more, I am perfectly happy with my decision.
If you need someone to testify on your behalf, call me.
Love,
ZachPA
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That is the best.

oh, well I guess that means I can sue microsoft since they told me I would have internet access on my computer but I don't get internet at my house =/.

Dear Sprint:
I believe you are about to be a defendant in a class action suit. It seems that this suit is based on laws that revolve around what a reasonable person might be able to ascertain based on facts available.
In other words, I am a reasonable person, and I knew both that 4G wasn't available at my home or office, and that I would still be paying $10 extra per month for premium data. What's more, I am perfectly happy with my decision.
If you need someone to testify on your behalf, call me.
Love,
ZachPA
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/signed
10char

I'm going to be the plaintiff of record in a class action suit against McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, Hardee's, Carl's Jr., Jack-in-the-Box, and every other fast food restaurant chain.
The suit will seek damages of over 99 Billion for failing to serve food that looked exactly like the photographs on the menu boards and in television commercials. Despite the fact that we voluntarily ate the food in question, we believe we have been defauded of our money because the food wasn't quite as appealing as we were led to believe.

lol
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I honestly think people ***** too much for some sort of subliminal negative reflection on there purchase. Nobody put a gun to your head to make such a purchase. I'm sure some of you know how to read the small print before you buy right? If not I'm saddened how ignorant some people are. Big company's are shady as ****, that's why they are loaded. No such thing as a legit salesman. Everyone in general and will ALWAYS look out for themselves first. So the people mad about some bull**** 4g excuse and you hate your EVO, need to stick with cheaper phones.

Customer: "Um, i'd like to return this steak....i ordered it medium rare...this was medium."
Waiter: "Well....did u really have to EAT it all before complaining?"

This **** will never end.... Cheap bastards
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this thread is just as bad. posting in it makes me just as guilty...
lets complain about complaining...

Yupp I agree people are to much its still just a phone but an amazing phone and as for 4g its in development people knew this I'm in ny I purchased my phone before 4g launched and even thou it has I get it weak I'm probably the few people who r fine with ny 3g lol well either way I love my phone and service
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hahaha
i knew 4g wasnt in my area and would not be for some time and i still got my evo . a class action lawsuit is LoL at best sad part is sprint will settle out of court just to be done with it
people who filed this are morons

What lawsuit would they file? All the tools available for a customer to check if "4g" is available are at their disposal. A judge would laugh at them if this somehow made it to a court, which it won't. Just like my customer today who said she is recording me to place me on the news, I sincerely told her I gave her no permission to record and hung up.... idiots.
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farewell Nexus S General

i will have plenty of time to handle, talk about, and play with the Nexus S at work. I will not settle for T-Mobile quality coverage so I will not own it.
Unless the AT&T variant drops right away as well...which is nowhere in sight. If it drops 3 months later like i had to wait for N1...i will be abandoning the Nexus line and will replace with my N1 with something else....in 3 months an AT&T Nexus S will be a waste.
color me disappointed. maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you, t-mobile just isnt quality at all around here, in a major city market., you only have it if you cant get approved for a big carrier)

cpcrazyfly said:
maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you, t-mobile just isnt quality at all around here, in a major city market., you only have it if you cant get approved for a big carrier)
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That is the most ignorant statement I have heard all day. I can understand and respect if T-Mobile service is not good where you are and hence you don't want it, but to assume only people with credit issues use T-Mobile reflects very poorly on the person making such a statement.

so basically this whole post is to just call T-Mobile crap? okay.
Well at least on T-Mobile i can make phone calls which is more than anyone can say about AssT&T

At&t is way overrated. I feel lucky to be where I am at.
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When I heard the news my parents were switching to tmobile I was ecstatic for two reasons. Nexus s just got announced and no more of at&t and their nuthugging of apple.
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cpcrazyfly said:
color me disappointed. maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you,
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LOL people like you amaze me
BTW this nexus s section isn't even a week old why even post a farewell

demo23019 said:
LOL people like you amaze me
BTW this nexus section isn't even a week old why even post a farewell
EDIT
ADMIN need to move thank you button i want to quote and now im always hitting this new thanks button
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I don't see "thanks" button because I use classic theme (I don't want to see the online members' list occupy half of the page).
I guess OP wanted to insult T-Mobile by complaining NS doesn't have 850/1900 UMTS this time.
Back to pre-2009 before N900 came to market, many T-Mobile users *****ed like crazy for no unlocked phones with AWS 3G support.

Wasn't AT&T JUST rated the WORST carrier in the country?

uansari1 said:
Wasn't AT&T JUST rated the WORST carrier in the country?
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yup! AssT&T wins again. and by win i mean lose.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704156304576003423395003238.html
I may hate the iPhone, but i can't wait till it leaves AT&T and goes to Verizon. Watch AT&T lose 30 Million subscribers in a day.

don't let the door hit you on the way out champ. And don't bother making a thread when you do come back either.

cpcrazyfly said:
i will have plenty of time to handle, talk about, and play with the Nexus S at work. I will not settle for T-Mobile quality coverage so I will not own it.
Unless the AT&T variant drops right away as well...which is nowhere in sight. If it drops 3 months later like i had to wait for N1...i will be abandoning the Nexus line and will replace with my N1 with something else....in 3 months an AT&T Nexus S will be a waste.
color me disappointed. maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you, t-mobile just isnt quality at all around here, in a major city market., you only have it if you cant get approved for a big carrier)
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There's always the best Galaxy s phone, the Epic, on sprint

Working for Best Buy Mobile, I deal with costumers from all providers. And I must say AT&T is making harder on themselves. Their customer support has gotten worse, their policies are more strict. They are losing customers left and right. And many of them are ready to jump to VRZ, not just because of the iPhone either. I have T-Mobile, never had a dropped call. I had Cingular/ATT before, and it was drop call after drop call. I live in Philadelphia, and around it's suburbs. AT&T better fix their act. Even Virgin Mobile's 25$ 300minutes with unlimited text/web is looking better now. And they are getting Android phones now too Not to mention ATT's phone lineup is based around the iPhone to reign supreme.

Excellent statement. Totally agree with you.
AVonGauss said:
That is the most ignorant statement I have heard all day. I can understand and respect if T-Mobile service is not good where you are and hence you don't want it, but to assume only people with credit issues use T-Mobile reflects very poorly on the person making such a statement.
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Just another example of XDA troll's that pop along and make a statement and dont even hang around to back it up. I live in London and even here we know about AT&T's terrible service in the states....
Im with T-Mobile in the UK and i must say they are fantastic, easily the best UK carrier by a mile)
So its a shame you had to breathe to say farewell, wait.... It was a shame you breathed at all, lol
Now don't come back ya'hear;P
Go buy an iPhone and live in blissful ignorance
JD

JupiterDroid said:
Just another example of XDA troll's that pop along and make a statement and dont even hang around to back it up. I live in London and even here we know about AT&T's terrible service in the states....
Im with T-Mobile in the UK and i must say they are fantastic, easily the best UK carrier by a mile)
So its a shame you had to breathe to say farewell, wait.... It was a shame you breathed at all, lol
Now don't come back ya'hear;P
Go buy an iPhone and live in blissful ignorance
JD
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T-Mobile is fast and reliable in NYC though my daily experience of voice and internet.

mingkee said:
T-Mobile is fast and reliable in NYC though my daily experience of voice and internet.
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There is no better choice in NYC. Great voice quality and a solid reliable data network that handles peak usage times and locations better then any of the competition. (VZW also handles them well, but with slower data)

cpcrazyfly said:
maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you, t-mobile just isnt quality at all around here, in a major city market., you only have it if you cant get approved for a big carrier)
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As a (presumed) Best Buy employee, I'm sure you are exactly the kind of ambassador the company wants providing representation of them, here at XDA.
Nice job disparaging both your customers AND T-Mobile, all in a single lame post! ...... Classy!!!
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The guy is a total lameo, he comes on here, says something completely idiotic and runs off. Like a total pranny.
I would have had more respect for the **** if he hung around and backed up his claims with hard evidence and a thought provoking argument. But alas, i think this dude needs to go back to pre school and learn how to communicate.
JD

Nexus S confirmed for all Canadian carriers

Sweet?
Do it is confirmed that Google Nexus S is confirmed for all canadian carriers.
Mobilicity will have it by march.
But I would akl like to have tegra2 based phone
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If u want tegra 2 then look elsewhere. Maybe nexus s 2? Nexus R?
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robstunner said:
If u want tegra 2 then look elsewhere. Maybe nexus s 2? Nexus R?
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Maybe a Nexus M.
I'm sure google wouldn't let moto put encrypted bootloader on it.

insanemachine said:
Maybe a Nexus M.
I'm sure google wouldn't let moto put encrypted bootloader on it.
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Given their stance on rooting phones you're most likely right. My guess is that HTC (what with their ever harder to unlock bootloaders ala the newest G2s and the Evo Shift 4G) fought it and that Sammy did too. Why they hate rooting and roming so much, I just cannot for the life of me fathom. If they just embraced the dev community (maybe even hired from it) they could increase the performance and desirability of their phones exponentially.

They might be afraid of "loosing control" of their device. Or not getting as much profit from it since software updates would keep it current for longer.

It's purely about profits. It costs money to support a device. Lock the boot loader and you can cancel support when you want and force your user base to a new device. Then you make further profit from device sales, rinse, and repeat. So it's not hard to understand.
Leave the phone open and people don't have to upgrade so soon because communities such as xda keep the device alive.
I don't agree with it but that's the reality. That's why you should stick with the Nexus line.

jivemaster said:
It's purely about profits. It costs money to support a device. Lock the boot loader and you can cancel support when you want and force your user base to a new device. Then you make further profit from device sales, rinse, and repeat. So it's not hard to understand.
Leave the phone open and people don't have to upgrade so soon because communities such as xda keep the device alive.
I don't agree with it but that's the reality. That's why you should stick with the Nexus line.
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I suppose I knew this I just didn't want to believe it lol
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jivemaster said:
It's purely about profits. It costs money to support a device. Lock the boot loader and you can cancel support when you want and force your user base to a new device. Then you make further profit from device sales, rinse, and repeat. So it's not hard to understand.
Leave the phone open and people don't have to upgrade so soon because communities such as xda keep the device alive.
I don't agree with it but that's the reality. That's why you should stick with the Nexus line.
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This. Look at the HD2, or the G1, for example. The HD2 is what, at least two years old? And just look at it, it's got the latest versions of every mobile os out there(other than iOS) on it.
I've got a huge example right here, Samsung's galaxy s line. It took them 7 months to update my version to froyo, and I can pretty much guarantee that I won't get gingerbread till after summer, if at all.
(oh, and the reason I'm posting here is because I'm thinking of dropping my Captivate and going for a nexus when the canadian one comes out in march.)
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TheEscapist said:
(oh, and the reason I'm posting here is because I'm thinking of dropping my Captivate and going for a nexus when the canadian one comes out in march.)
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are you planning to switch to MobilityCity?
they are the only ones getting it in March (probably locked too)
don't get your hopes up, if you plan to remain in Rogers

AllGamer said:
are you planning to switch to MobilityCity?
they are the only ones getting it in March (probably locked too)
don't get your hopes up, if you plan to remain in Rogers
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Just heads up Mobilicity in Ottawa SUCKS. They are crooks that tried to overcharge my "wallet" as they call it and reception on the Nexus S was horrible unless i was under plain blue sky. Just saying.

Google was more than disappointed with the results of the nexus s. However the phone was scheduled to launch and it was time to make money. Inside sources have made it rather clear samsung won't be getting another chance with a nexus phone once all build versions of this one are completed. Look for htc to get it back.
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I'm not switching carriers, if it comes out with the proper bands, I may buy it.
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vapor311 said:
Google was more than disappointed with the results of the nexus s. However the phone was scheduled to launch and it was time to make money. Inside sources have made it rather clear samsung won't be getting another chance with a nexus phone once all build versions of this one are completed. Look for htc to get it back.
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Sources for this fascinating information?

shrivelfig said:
Sources for this fascinating information?
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Quoted for double the fascination.
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robstunner said:
Quoted for double the fascination.
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looking forward to read the full article where that came from

Arun sanker
Business executive
[email protected]
Sorry I just remember the dudes name and email cant remember where I read it.
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ranxoren said:
Just heads up Mobilicity in Ottawa SUCKS. They are crooks that tried to overcharge my "wallet" as they call it and reception on the Nexus S was horrible unless i was under plain blue sky. Just saying.
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Just another quick heads up, between Wind and Mobilicity in the city of Toronto Mobilicity wins hands down, call quality and data stability are 10X better. With Wind any attempts at streaming netflix while tethered fail and stop, same with file downloads greater than 25MB, even Youtube HQ on device > 5 minutes stop completely. Wind has better coverage but the network is half a$$ed. At present time if you have a high use data device like the Nexus S Wind is a fail in Toronto. Just sayin' Switching to Mobilicity saved my Nexus.

I've noticed this lately too, wind sucks balls with data. The coverage is alright but I can't get push notifications on time. How is mobilicity's coverage in the downtown core?
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Just another quick heads up, between Wind and Mobilicity in the city of Toronto Mobilicity wins hands down, call quality and data stability are 10X better. With Wind any attempts at streaming netflix while tethered fail and stop, same with file downloads greater than 25MB, even Youtube HQ on device > 5 minutes stop completely. Wind has better coverage but the network is half a$$ed. At present time if you have a high use data device like the Nexus S Wind is a fail in Toronto. Just sayin' Switching to Mobilicity saved my Nexus.
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Wind and Mobilicity should just merge or share their towers... I tried Wind and I don't get reception at home and the entire street. I live in Toronto.

NexusDro said:
Wind and Mobilicity should just merge or share their towers... I tried Wind and I don't get reception at home and the entire street. I live in Toronto.
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that's odd
i'm in Toronto too
and i get good reception pretty much everywhere
except inside some buildings (warehouse style buildings like huge walmart super centres cotsco home depots)
of course no reception under the path and subway (rather obvious)

ATT warranty exchanging my atrix

So I called to complain that I only usually get <1Mb download on my "4G" Atrix in NYC, having already updated, hard reset, and gotten a "4G" SIM card, they're sending a replacement one. I really think this is gonna work......................................................................................................................................... *cough*
On the bright side, after talking to many ppl in service I finally spoke to someone who didn't sound like a zombie and actually said that the speeds I am getting weren't the H+ speeds, even said it wasn't even 3G speed.

I *****ed a little, and after a few new phones they decided to let me keep an additional phone and give me a laptop dock for free.
Turns out that one of the errors on their side was they never changed what type of phone I had in their system, therefore disabling my HSDPA.

iceman4357 said:
I *****ed a little, and after a few new phones they decided to let me keep an additional phone and give me a laptop dock for free.
Turns out that one of the errors on their side was they never changed what type of phone I had in their system, therefore disabling my HSDPA.
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Did you ask for the laptop dock or did they offer it?

iceman4357 said:
I *****ed a little, and after a few new phones they decided to let me keep an additional phone and give me a laptop dock for free.
Turns out that one of the errors on their side was they never changed what type of phone I had in their system, therefore disabling my HSDPA.
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What what what...? Lol
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What what what...? Lol
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Me thinks its time for another ***** session with the AT&T csrs

well when I most likely going to have to call again, Im gonna make sure to get the same guy I talked to last time. Pretty nice they gave a dock and two phones. I would sell all that and get the Infuse and maybe buy a tablet with the profit.

AT&T rep said this about teathering :

he asked what app i used ( i said none of course) and when in reality i didn't hit "hide on PDA net" but he asked if i used MIFI.
( i got out of this by saying i put my sim into another phone and it must have done something odd because the phone was an OLD phone that was having issues)

Was there a point? What did the rep say about tethering?
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Makes no sense...what are u trying to say?

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Thread moved. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.

I was just saying what the rep said. I don't know much about it but people seem to be collecting these experiences on xda from what IV been reading about so I figured I'd add my 2¢
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I still have no clue what you're talking about. Your first post is confusing,and your second doesn't clarify anything.
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Sorry,what im I'm trying to say is that there asking about it in depth now and automatically assuming you'r trying to do wrong. I'm only informing anyone who wanted to read what I was told.
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??? looks like a "bad trip" post to me... ???
Give him some credit... at least he came here instead of wandering through a forest while he was on that trip.

"Bad trip" post? What does that mean?
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ianwardell said:
"Bad trip" post? What does that mean?
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As in it looks like you ate a bag of mushrooms soaked in LSD and posted your thoughts on XDA.
And I'm an AT&T employee if you have any questions about Tethering.
And no, that doesn't mean I understand your first post.

ianwardell said:
"Bad trip" post? What does that mean?
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he's talking about you being on drugs. havent you ever seen Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?

Most employees of carriers don't really care about you tethering. Sometimes they will tell you to get the sale. Sometimes even if they tell you, the end user is not able to perform the task.
Really, we don't care. Do it if you want. We're not reporting you or notating on your account that you are tethering for free.
This is like the carry threads on CC/OC forums. Like children saying, I open carried today. This guy stared at me and a kid asked if I was a cop. TEHE.
But really, I don't work for ATT. I work for another carrier. Reps would rather earn your trust for you to keep coming back to them. There's a internal war going on with Store Sales Reps and Customer Care / Over the Phone Reps. We'd rather have you deal with us in the store.

chrischoi said:
Most employees of carriers don't really care about you tethering. Sometimes they will tell you to get the sale. Sometimes even if they tell you, the end user is not able to perform the task.
Really, we don't care. Do it if you want. We're not reporting you or notating on your account that you are tethering for free.
This is like the carry threads on CC/OC forums. Like children saying, I open carried today. This guy stared at me and a kid asked if I was a cop. TEHE.
But really, I don't work for ATT. I work for another carrier. Reps would rather earn your trust for you to keep coming back to them. There's a internal war going on with Store Sales Reps and Customer Care / Over the Phone Reps. We'd rather have you deal with us in the store.
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You have no idea how many customers come in trying to hide the fact that they rooted / jailbroke / have installed tethering apps on their phones.
We really do not care. At all. It's your computer, you know the TOS, do what you want to do.
It only bothers me when they directly lie about it to me and I have to call them out on it....

Ahaha oh I get it now. Yah i posted this when I got home from a physics midterm so that was most likely why. And I actually do have a question every rep i have spoken to Gave me a different answer to this: what does teathering actually cover. Is phone to car Bluetooth teathering? One rep said yes another said no. Would plugging the Asus padphone into its dock (basicly just a bigger screen n battery) be teathering like on he atrix ?)
I even asked my friends mom who works in the corporate part she had almost no idea and said the obvious hotspot answer.
(Sorry for errors still getting used to the prime keybored)
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ianwardell said:
Ahaha oh I get it now. Yah i posted this when I got home from a physics midterm so that was most likely why. And I actually do have a question every rep i have spoken to Gave me a different answer to this: what does teathering actually cover. Is phone to car Bluetooth teathering? One rep said yes another said no. Would plugging the Asus padphone into its dock (basicly just a bigger screen n battery) be teathering like on he atrix ?)
I even asked my friends mom who works in the corporate part she had almost no idea and said the obvious hotspot answer.
(Sorry for errors still getting used to the prime keybored)
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I guess we will see. If AT&T sells the setup, then I would have a hard time imagining us calling that tethering.
But most likely in our system it would be detected as tethering.
We'll see!

How would that be detected? Wouldn't the data be ending at the device? ( I very much dislike what companys have done to data plans) it is still a confusing topic.
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ianwardell said:
How would that be detected? Wouldn't the data be ending at the device? ( I very much dislike what companys have done to data plans) it is still a confusing topic.
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one way it can be detected are through packet headers. when you're tethering, all your device is doing is acting as a router. it doesnt modify anything (although i'm sure there's an app for that).

Pdanet? Doesn't it have a hide function? I have heard of that. I do think that u.s carriers are going to start going overboard with this though.
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Maroon Mushroom said:
And I'm an AT&T employee if you have any questions about Tethering.
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So the other day I was told that ATT could see your tethering through the Wifi Tether app (one that isn't supposed to use standard tethering protocols) is this true?

You guys should shop around with T-Mobile if you are that concerned about tethering. I was offered a plan that was $5 cheaper than the one I'm on two days ago. The new plan would have been unlimited voice/text and 10GB/month data with unlimited tethering. It was offered by the phone CS rep. The price was $55/month. I didn't take it since I don't want to be on contract. He said the normal price of the plan was $65. All I was calling for was to ask when I originally signed up with T-Mobile, since it's been so long that I forgot.
Also, my current plan is 1000 minutes, unlimited text, and unlimited data with tethering for $60/month.
Just food for thought. T-Mobile reps, like any other carrier, could care less whether or not you tether.