Sweet?
Do it is confirmed that Google Nexus S is confirmed for all canadian carriers.
Mobilicity will have it by march.
But I would akl like to have tegra2 based phone
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If u want tegra 2 then look elsewhere. Maybe nexus s 2? Nexus R?
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If u want tegra 2 then look elsewhere. Maybe nexus s 2? Nexus R?
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Maybe a Nexus M.
I'm sure google wouldn't let moto put encrypted bootloader on it.
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Maybe a Nexus M.
I'm sure google wouldn't let moto put encrypted bootloader on it.
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Given their stance on rooting phones you're most likely right. My guess is that HTC (what with their ever harder to unlock bootloaders ala the newest G2s and the Evo Shift 4G) fought it and that Sammy did too. Why they hate rooting and roming so much, I just cannot for the life of me fathom. If they just embraced the dev community (maybe even hired from it) they could increase the performance and desirability of their phones exponentially.
They might be afraid of "loosing control" of their device. Or not getting as much profit from it since software updates would keep it current for longer.
It's purely about profits. It costs money to support a device. Lock the boot loader and you can cancel support when you want and force your user base to a new device. Then you make further profit from device sales, rinse, and repeat. So it's not hard to understand.
Leave the phone open and people don't have to upgrade so soon because communities such as xda keep the device alive.
I don't agree with it but that's the reality. That's why you should stick with the Nexus line.
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It's purely about profits. It costs money to support a device. Lock the boot loader and you can cancel support when you want and force your user base to a new device. Then you make further profit from device sales, rinse, and repeat. So it's not hard to understand.
Leave the phone open and people don't have to upgrade so soon because communities such as xda keep the device alive.
I don't agree with it but that's the reality. That's why you should stick with the Nexus line.
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I suppose I knew this I just didn't want to believe it lol
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It's purely about profits. It costs money to support a device. Lock the boot loader and you can cancel support when you want and force your user base to a new device. Then you make further profit from device sales, rinse, and repeat. So it's not hard to understand.
Leave the phone open and people don't have to upgrade so soon because communities such as xda keep the device alive.
I don't agree with it but that's the reality. That's why you should stick with the Nexus line.
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This. Look at the HD2, or the G1, for example. The HD2 is what, at least two years old? And just look at it, it's got the latest versions of every mobile os out there(other than iOS) on it.
I've got a huge example right here, Samsung's galaxy s line. It took them 7 months to update my version to froyo, and I can pretty much guarantee that I won't get gingerbread till after summer, if at all.
(oh, and the reason I'm posting here is because I'm thinking of dropping my Captivate and going for a nexus when the canadian one comes out in march.)
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(oh, and the reason I'm posting here is because I'm thinking of dropping my Captivate and going for a nexus when the canadian one comes out in march.)
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are you planning to switch to MobilityCity?
they are the only ones getting it in March (probably locked too)
don't get your hopes up, if you plan to remain in Rogers
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are you planning to switch to MobilityCity?
they are the only ones getting it in March (probably locked too)
don't get your hopes up, if you plan to remain in Rogers
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Just heads up Mobilicity in Ottawa SUCKS. They are crooks that tried to overcharge my "wallet" as they call it and reception on the Nexus S was horrible unless i was under plain blue sky. Just saying.
Google was more than disappointed with the results of the nexus s. However the phone was scheduled to launch and it was time to make money. Inside sources have made it rather clear samsung won't be getting another chance with a nexus phone once all build versions of this one are completed. Look for htc to get it back.
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I'm not switching carriers, if it comes out with the proper bands, I may buy it.
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Google was more than disappointed with the results of the nexus s. However the phone was scheduled to launch and it was time to make money. Inside sources have made it rather clear samsung won't be getting another chance with a nexus phone once all build versions of this one are completed. Look for htc to get it back.
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Sources for this fascinating information?
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Sources for this fascinating information?
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Quoted for double the fascination.
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Quoted for double the fascination.
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looking forward to read the full article where that came from
Arun sanker
Business executive
[email protected]
Sorry I just remember the dudes name and email cant remember where I read it.
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Just heads up Mobilicity in Ottawa SUCKS. They are crooks that tried to overcharge my "wallet" as they call it and reception on the Nexus S was horrible unless i was under plain blue sky. Just saying.
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Just another quick heads up, between Wind and Mobilicity in the city of Toronto Mobilicity wins hands down, call quality and data stability are 10X better. With Wind any attempts at streaming netflix while tethered fail and stop, same with file downloads greater than 25MB, even Youtube HQ on device > 5 minutes stop completely. Wind has better coverage but the network is half a$$ed. At present time if you have a high use data device like the Nexus S Wind is a fail in Toronto. Just sayin' Switching to Mobilicity saved my Nexus.
I've noticed this lately too, wind sucks balls with data. The coverage is alright but I can't get push notifications on time. How is mobilicity's coverage in the downtown core?
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Just another quick heads up, between Wind and Mobilicity in the city of Toronto Mobilicity wins hands down, call quality and data stability are 10X better. With Wind any attempts at streaming netflix while tethered fail and stop, same with file downloads greater than 25MB, even Youtube HQ on device > 5 minutes stop completely. Wind has better coverage but the network is half a$$ed. At present time if you have a high use data device like the Nexus S Wind is a fail in Toronto. Just sayin' Switching to Mobilicity saved my Nexus.
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Wind and Mobilicity should just merge or share their towers... I tried Wind and I don't get reception at home and the entire street. I live in Toronto.
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Wind and Mobilicity should just merge or share their towers... I tried Wind and I don't get reception at home and the entire street. I live in Toronto.
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that's odd
i'm in Toronto too
and i get good reception pretty much everywhere
except inside some buildings (warehouse style buildings like huge walmart super centres cotsco home depots)
of course no reception under the path and subway (rather obvious)
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i will have plenty of time to handle, talk about, and play with the Nexus S at work. I will not settle for T-Mobile quality coverage so I will not own it.
Unless the AT&T variant drops right away as well...which is nowhere in sight. If it drops 3 months later like i had to wait for N1...i will be abandoning the Nexus line and will replace with my N1 with something else....in 3 months an AT&T Nexus S will be a waste.
color me disappointed. maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you, t-mobile just isnt quality at all around here, in a major city market., you only have it if you cant get approved for a big carrier)
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maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you, t-mobile just isnt quality at all around here, in a major city market., you only have it if you cant get approved for a big carrier)
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That is the most ignorant statement I have heard all day. I can understand and respect if T-Mobile service is not good where you are and hence you don't want it, but to assume only people with credit issues use T-Mobile reflects very poorly on the person making such a statement.
so basically this whole post is to just call T-Mobile crap? okay.
Well at least on T-Mobile i can make phone calls which is more than anyone can say about AssT&T
At&t is way overrated. I feel lucky to be where I am at.
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When I heard the news my parents were switching to tmobile I was ecstatic for two reasons. Nexus s just got announced and no more of at&t and their nuthugging of apple.
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color me disappointed. maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you,
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LOL people like you amaze me
BTW this nexus s section isn't even a week old why even post a farewell
demo23019 said:
LOL people like you amaze me
BTW this nexus section isn't even a week old why even post a farewell
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ADMIN need to move thank you button i want to quote and now im always hitting this new thanks button
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I don't see "thanks" button because I use classic theme (I don't want to see the online members' list occupy half of the page).
I guess OP wanted to insult T-Mobile by complaining NS doesn't have 850/1900 UMTS this time.
Back to pre-2009 before N900 came to market, many T-Mobile users *****ed like crazy for no unlocked phones with AWS 3G support.
Wasn't AT&T JUST rated the WORST carrier in the country?
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Wasn't AT&T JUST rated the WORST carrier in the country?
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yup! AssT&T wins again. and by win i mean lose.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704156304576003423395003238.html
I may hate the iPhone, but i can't wait till it leaves AT&T and goes to Verizon. Watch AT&T lose 30 Million subscribers in a day.
don't let the door hit you on the way out champ. And don't bother making a thread when you do come back either.
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i will have plenty of time to handle, talk about, and play with the Nexus S at work. I will not settle for T-Mobile quality coverage so I will not own it.
Unless the AT&T variant drops right away as well...which is nowhere in sight. If it drops 3 months later like i had to wait for N1...i will be abandoning the Nexus line and will replace with my N1 with something else....in 3 months an AT&T Nexus S will be a waste.
color me disappointed. maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you, t-mobile just isnt quality at all around here, in a major city market., you only have it if you cant get approved for a big carrier)
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There's always the best Galaxy s phone, the Epic, on sprint
Working for Best Buy Mobile, I deal with costumers from all providers. And I must say AT&T is making harder on themselves. Their customer support has gotten worse, their policies are more strict. They are losing customers left and right. And many of them are ready to jump to VRZ, not just because of the iPhone either. I have T-Mobile, never had a dropped call. I had Cingular/ATT before, and it was drop call after drop call. I live in Philadelphia, and around it's suburbs. AT&T better fix their act. Even Virgin Mobile's 25$ 300minutes with unlimited text/web is looking better now. And they are getting Android phones now too Not to mention ATT's phone lineup is based around the iPhone to reign supreme.
Excellent statement. Totally agree with you.
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That is the most ignorant statement I have heard all day. I can understand and respect if T-Mobile service is not good where you are and hence you don't want it, but to assume only people with credit issues use T-Mobile reflects very poorly on the person making such a statement.
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Just another example of XDA troll's that pop along and make a statement and dont even hang around to back it up. I live in London and even here we know about AT&T's terrible service in the states....
Im with T-Mobile in the UK and i must say they are fantastic, easily the best UK carrier by a mile)
So its a shame you had to breathe to say farewell, wait.... It was a shame you breathed at all, lol
Now don't come back ya'hear;P
Go buy an iPhone and live in blissful ignorance
JD
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Just another example of XDA troll's that pop along and make a statement and dont even hang around to back it up. I live in London and even here we know about AT&T's terrible service in the states....
Im with T-Mobile in the UK and i must say they are fantastic, easily the best UK carrier by a mile)
So its a shame you had to breathe to say farewell, wait.... It was a shame you breathed at all, lol
Now don't come back ya'hear;P
Go buy an iPhone and live in blissful ignorance
JD
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T-Mobile is fast and reliable in NYC though my daily experience of voice and internet.
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T-Mobile is fast and reliable in NYC though my daily experience of voice and internet.
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There is no better choice in NYC. Great voice quality and a solid reliable data network that handles peak usage times and locations better then any of the competition. (VZW also handles them well, but with slower data)
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maybe if i was credit challenged i could have a T-Mobile Nexus S. (not a shot at any of you, t-mobile just isnt quality at all around here, in a major city market., you only have it if you cant get approved for a big carrier)
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As a (presumed) Best Buy employee, I'm sure you are exactly the kind of ambassador the company wants providing representation of them, here at XDA.
Nice job disparaging both your customers AND T-Mobile, all in a single lame post! ...... Classy!!!
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The guy is a total lameo, he comes on here, says something completely idiotic and runs off. Like a total pranny.
I would have had more respect for the **** if he hung around and backed up his claims with hard evidence and a thought provoking argument. But alas, i think this dude needs to go back to pre school and learn how to communicate.
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Lots of people got their dreams come true on the nexus S with 4g anyone gonna get it? I sure am
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/06/sprint-announcing-nexus-s-4g-evo-3d-and-evo-view-tablet-at-cti/ I'm going to update this post now and then btw
-Update- Seems like it isn't a rumor afterall http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/06/sprints-nexus-website-is-coming-soon/
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seems like what engadget said was right try it out http://now.sprint.com/nexus/
I don't really get people who are saying this isn't a "pure google experience" just because they dont get 4g, if you ask me the best part about the phone is the updates it get a official gingerbread and how easy it is to root this phone
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http://forum.androidcentral.com/rumored-devices/65910-http-now-sprint-com-nexus.html
-Extra Update(nothing to do with this, ok maybe a bit)-
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/08/deutsche-telekom-thinking-of-selling-t-mobile-usa-to-sprint/(T-mobile+Sprint)
-Big Update 3/10/11-
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20041727-251.html
Well seems the Nexus S 3G is going cheap.... is it a cowincedence? http://www.androidcentral.com/grab-nexus-s-best-buy-benjamin
Well its official by Sprint http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/21/nexus-s-4g-confirmed-by-sprints-own-website-first-fully-integ/
Official Releasehttp://www.engadget.com/2011/03/21/google-nexus-s-4g-with-wimax-announced-for-sprint/
T-mobile and AT&T http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/atandt-agrees-to-buy-t-mobile-from-deutsche-telekom/ Thinking of switching to Sprint eh?
Its gonna have touchwiz that sucks. The original will be better.
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It seems this one could be either the SPH-D600 or SPH-D720, both of which have recently received certification from the Wi-Fi Alliance, though the SPH-D720 is more likely; the D600 shows WPS support, which is available in TouchWiz-skinned devices but not in stock Gingerbread.
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No TouchWiz. Shame on Engadget for putting together such a confusing description.
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No TouchWiz. Shame on Engadget for putting together such a confusing description.
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so touch wiz or no?
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No TouchWiz. Shame on Engadget for putting together such a confusing description.
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Not really, had to read it again, but they are assuming the Nexus S model number is most likely SPH-D720, since the D600 has WPS support which is only available for Touchwiz devices (WPS is not available for stock Gingerbread devices). That's what I got from reading that sentence.
So it has to be stock Gingerbread. Nexus named phones has been branded to be stock devices. So if they did put customized Android versions on a Nexus named device, then they will probably get a bad backlash from the community for it.
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That is ****ed up. Wait a few months and release a 4g version when ours should have had 4g? That is ****ing disgraceful. Its expected from Samsung but Google allowing that bull****? **** this.
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Don't get too upset. A) it'll be on Sprint/NASCAR, and B) will require two radios to use the WiMAX. So if you thought your battery life was poor on your NS now, just you wait!
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Don't get too upset. A) it'll be on Sprint/NASCAR, and B) will require two radios to use the WiMAX. So if you thought your battery life was poor on your NS now, just you wait!
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Im looking for something to replace this phone with anyway. Either a iphone or the optimus
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Don't get too upset. A) it'll be on Sprint/NASCAR, and B) will require two radios to use the WiMAX. So if you thought your battery life was poor on your NS now, just you wait!
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1) Nexus line doesn't get carrier bloatware. And sprint football is actually a great app.
2) I used a sprint wimax phone for 6 months. I don't care that its on sprint I care that Google is allowing our device to be superseded months after its release. We all know our phone should have had 4g to start with and u bought it as the premiere Google device under the impression that I wouldn't be ****ed by Samsung releasing a new version a few months later. Its ****ing pathetic.
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Hopefully they take the time to add a second noise canceling microphone. Because the voice quality of the original nexus s was atrocious compared to the nexus one.
Pretty disappointing.. However, I remember reading a few weeks back when people were mad about the fact the original Samsung Vibrant was 3g and then they were releasing the 4g.. Samsung said that the original Vibrant was fully capable of 4g speeds.. So i'm wondering if its the difference of a radio ? I really dont know much about the technical aspects, im just repeating what I read.. I think it was on BGR.com..
Its funny though, I haven't purchased a samsung phone in years, then this came out and I jumped on it.. If this is the game google is going to play, iPhone 5 is going to be looking VERRRRRY attractive to alot of people, with polished build quality and little to no bugs.. Easy decision if you ask me.
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Pretty disappointing.. However, I remember reading a few weeks back when people were mad about the fact the original Samsung Vibrant was 3g and then they were releasing the 4g.. Samsung said that the original Vibrant was fully capable of 4g speeds.. So i'm wondering if its the difference of a radio ? I really dont know much about the technical aspects, im just repeating what I read.. I think it was on BGR.com..
Its funny though, I haven't purchased a samsung phone in years, then this came out and I jumped on it.. If this is the game google is going to play, iPhone 5 is going to be looking VERRRRRY attractive to alot of people, with polished build quality and little to no bugs.. Easy decision if you ask me.
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You're exactly right. I played this game with Samsung on my Epic 4G and I bought a Nexus S because I wanted to feel like my phone was top of the line for more than a week and that was true of the Nexus One for a long time. It was stupid to release the Nexus S without HSPA+ support given that it the technology was more than available. I've been an Android guy from the beginning. I never wanted an iPhone but you know what? I'm starting to like the way regular updates and support for later iterations. You know what Apple does for people who purchase a current iteration of a phone close to when they announce a new one? They give them money back. What did Samsung do for Vibrant owners when they released the Galaxy S 4G (C'mon its a Vibrant 4G)? Nothing. They left them to twist in the wind and if Google is allowing that to happen to Nexus users here, I'm pretty done with the platform. I'm not paying money to a company that stopped caring about their current devices 10 minutes before they came off the line.
Its pathetic.
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You're exactly right. I played this game with Samsung on my Epic 4G and I bought a Nexus S because I wanted to feel like my phone was top of the line for more than a week and that was true of the Nexus One for a long time. It was stupid to release the Nexus S without HSPA+ support given that it the technology was more than available. I've been an Android guy from the beginning. I never wanted an iPhone but you know what? I'm starting to like the way regular updates and support for later iterations. You know what Apple does for people who purchase a current iteration of a phone close to when they announce a new one? They give them money back. What did Samsung do for Vibrant owners when they released the Galaxy S 4G (C'mon its a Vibrant 4G)? Nothing. They left them to twist in the wind and if Google is allowing that to happen to Nexus users here, I'm pretty done with the platform. I'm not paying money to a company that stopped caring about their current devices 10 minutes before they came off the line.
Its pathetic.
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Iphone it is.
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$80 per month on sprint or $50 on T-Mobile. I think I'll stick with T-Mobile. I quit sprint for this phone anyway, haha.
Also, I'd rather have T-Mobile 3g than wimax/cdma. Better battery life all around. And really guys, do you really need to download anything on a phone faster than 5-7 mbp/s?
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$80 per month on sprint or $50 on T-Mobile. I think I'll stick with T-Mobile. I quit sprint for this phone anyway, haha.
Also, I'd rather have T-Mobile 3g than wimax/cdma. Better battery life all around. And really guys, do you really need to download anything on a phone faster than 5-7 mbp/s?
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To me its not about the download speeds or the money. I too came from Sprint to get this phone. Its a matter of moral standards and care for your customer base, which this move shows that Google cares about neither.
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1) Nexus line doesn't get carrier bloatware. And sprint football is actually a great app.
2) I used a sprint wimax phone for 6 months. I don't care that its on sprint I care that Google is allowing our device to be superseded months after its release. We all know our phone should have had 4g to start with and u bought it as the premiere Google device under the impression that I wouldn't be ****ed by Samsung releasing a new version a few months later. Its ****ing pathetic.
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You can’t stop, you can’t stop progress. You can't stop, you can’t stop, no, no, no.
(nor do I think we should).. Sorry man, I'm on google's side here. Can't stop trying to raise the bar just because someone that didn't think their phone would see faster ones released after it would be butthurt.
Tmo ns still rocks, regardless.
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You can’t stop, you can’t stop progress. You can't stop, you can’t stop, no, no, no.
(nor should I think we should).. Sorry man, I'm on google's side here. Can't stop trying to raise the bar just because someone that didn't think their phone would see faster ones released after it would be butthurt.
Tmo ns still rocks, regardless.
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I can't figure out wth you're trying to say in that first line but I assume its something to the effect of you can't stop progress and I'm not asking that. I'm asking that they not release a phone with certain features and with certain features lacking then release the same phone with the features it lacked a few months later. There is no "progress" progress here. Sprint's first WiMax phone was released in July of last year; 9 months ago. Tmobile's first "4G" phone? November 2010; 5 months ago. Verizon was behind the curve but they are using completely different technology. When the Nexus S was announced there was already one semi-4G phone (T-Mobile G2) and one full 4G phone (T-Mobile MyTouch 4G). Where is the "progress" in releasing the same phone with a feature that already existed. If they released a Nexus 3 with dual core, sure I'd be angry that they announced it a mere 2.5 months after the previous iteration was announced but it would be a different phone. This is the exact same phone with feature that should have been released with the original added in for ****s and giggles. Its not "butthurt", its moral indignation. The same moral indignation I'm sure Vibrant owners felt because that was just as bull**** a move.
And how is this a faster phone? Its literally the exact same phone? Am I "butthurt" it didn't come with a dual core? No. I think its a little silly but I still love my phone, or loved I should say. Am I "butthurt" that the Galaxy S 2 does have a dual core? Or that the G2X is dual core? **** no. I chose this phone because I thought it would be supported for at least 6 or 7 months and this is a pretty ****ing clear indication that Google doesn't give a flying **** about the current user base.
Oh, and WiMax sucks. Its by far the worst implementation of "4G" and the company pushing it out (Clearwire)is in pretty significant financial trouble as is the company paying for the services (Sprint). Verizon and T-Mobile have much better existing coverage for their "4G" and have higher speed potential with existing hardware. There is no progress here, its just shafting a bunch of users for a feature that should have been included to begin with.
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I can't figure out wth you're trying to say in that first line but I assume its something to the effect of you can't stop progress and I'm not asking that. I'm asking that they not release a phone with certain features and with certain features lacking then release the same phone with the features it lacked a few months later. There is no "progress" progress here. Sprint's first WiMax phone was released in July of last year; 9 months ago. Tmobile's first "4G" phone? November 2010; 5 months ago. Verizon was behind the curve but they are using completely different technology. When the Nexus S was announced there was already one semi-4G phone (T-Mobile G2) and one full 4G phone (T-Mobile MyTouch 4G). Where is the "progress" in releasing the same phone with a feature that already existed. If they released a Nexus 3 with dual core, sure I'd be angry that they announced it a mere 2.5 months after the previous iteration was announced but it would be a different phone. This is the exact same phone with feature that should have been released with the original added in for ****s and giggles. Its not "butthurt", its moral indignation. The same moral indignation I'm sure Vibrant owners felt because that was just as bull**** a move.
And how is this a faster phone? Its literally the exact same phone? Am I "butthurt" it didn't come with a dual core? No. I think its a little silly but I still love my phone, or loved I should say. Am I "butthurt" that the Galaxy S 2 does have a dual core? Or that the G2X is dual core? **** no. I chose this phone because I thought it would be supported for at least 6 or 7 months and this is a pretty ****ing clear indication that Google doesn't give a flying **** about the current user base.
Oh, and WiMax sucks. Its by far the worst implementation of "4G" and the company pushing it out (Clearwire)is in pretty significant financial trouble as is the company paying for the services (Sprint). Verizon and T-Mobile have much better existing coverage for their "4G" and have higher speed potential with existing hardware. There is no progress here, its just shafting a bunch of users for a feature that should have been included to begin with.
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Get over it man. It's not a big deal, even in principe. I've bought 3 phones in a year (n1, g2, ns) so I am definitely not one to sit idly while my phone ages and be complacent with it. I just like gadgets. But this is just the way this industry works. I personally don't care if my ns supports hspa or hspa+. You'll never notice the difference in day to day unless you download gigabytes of data a day. Tmo supposedly caps you after 5 anyway. (i usually only use about 300M/mo because I jump on wifi every chance I can.
Also, google isn't dropping 'support' for this phone just because sprint us getting a 4g version. On the contrary the 'platform' is widening. Did the at&t version that passed fcc have hspa+?
Those were Clutch lyrics. One of my favorite bands.
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Glad to see people are realizing what terrible customer service Google has. They just don't care. They're concerned with getting Android on as many devices as they can so they can rake in the ad revenue. They're just happy releasing stuff in perpetual Beta
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Get over it man. It's not a big deal, even in principe. I've bought 3 phones in a year (n1, g2, ns) so I am definitely not one to sit idly while my phone ages and be complacent with it. I just like gadgets. But this is just the way this industry works. I personally don't care if my ns supports hspa or hspa+. You'll never notice the difference in day to day unless you download gigabytes of data a day. Tmo supposedly caps you after 5 anyway. (i usually only use about 300M/mo because I jump on wifi every chance I can.
Those were Clutch lyrics. One of my favorite bands.
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I've owned four phones in the last 6 months (MT3G, Epic 4G, Evo 4G, NS all of them bought in the last year the last three in the last 6 months). You'll never see the difference between 3-5MBps and 20+MBps in daily use? Really? Typically, it takes my laptop (on comcast cable) less than a second to load the Engadget website whereas my phone takes 5, sometimes 10 seconds to load the same page on 3G. On WiMax (with a theoretical topspeed of 20MBps but it runs more frequently around 10MBps) it loads around the same time. On T-Mobile's HSPDA? It would be faster than on my computer. Sure, I'm on WiFi a good portion of the time but when I'm not it is often painfully slow trying to do anything.
For example, the other day my wife was getting fed up with Swype while she we were both at work. She wanted to use the keyboard I use (a modified gingerbread keyboard) so I tried to email it to her but the 5.25MB file just sat in my phones outbox for 20 minutes. So I decided to upload it to my dropbox which took an astonishing 7 minutes. I know the area I was in had 4G coverage and I know if I could have been on 4G it would have been almost instant. Its not progress its just bull****. Sell them a phone without a feature they want then release it again with the new feature and get them to buy it again. Its ethically wrong.
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Glad to see people are realizing what terrible customer service Google has. They just don't care. They're concerned with getting Android on as many devices as they can so they can rake in the ad revenue. They're just happy releasing stuff in perpetual Beta
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You mean they are a corporation trying to make money and not spending millions to give the world a big gift? If you ask me, no android is not prefect, what is? Nothing. It's better than the alternatives for my needs and tastes. If google has an agenda to try to turn a profit with it, they are no different than any of they other companies.
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Just read an article online & it said sprint takes big risks to buy 20 billion worth of iPhone in next 4 years but that they are going to get the iPhone 5 while At&t & Verizon get iPhone 4s then I think they get the 5 early 2012!! I think Sprint crazy to put up that much they should of did maybe 10&?$billion & use the other 10billion to build out there 4g lte to get it out to people faster!!! What you guys think
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Oh dude, people will be so pissed if this is true... most people in my area hate sprint because of how crappy the service is while I cling tightly to my unlimited data despite its constant slowness.
It makes sense as to why sprint would do this and I do see this bringing in a good rush of customers, but to bank so much money on exclusivity for a few months seems like a gamble to me.
Time will tell though, its not like we have to wait that long to find out...
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its not going to be exclusive, that is just to get apple to join sprint, like said it will buy 20billion worth of iphones in the next 4 years so its just to get apple to get in bed with sprint, not exclusive
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/03/sprint-places-20-billion-order-for-next-iphone-hinges-company/
That a ton of mula sprint why that much? I looked online read & posted about it I think sprint should of not spent that much if apple didn't want to give them the iPhone 5 then sprint should of told them f u & spend there $ on building out there 4g LTE & Try & get the Nexus Prime as early as they could & then tell Samsung that when they make the new Galaxy S3 instead of having the. U.S.A get the phone last like we did the S2 Epic Touch . Sprint pays a little more to get it first!
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That a ton of mula sprint why that much? I looked online read & posted about it I think sprint should of not spent that much if apple didn't want to give them the iPhone 5 then sprint should of told them f u & spend there $ on building out there 4g LTE & Try & get the Nexus Prime as early as they could & then tell Samsung that when they make the new Galaxy S3 instead of having the. U.S.A get the phone last like we did the S2 Epic Touch . Sprint pays a little more to get it first!
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not like theyre giving the money away, they going to sell the phone and make a profit/add customers with this... as we've seen iphones sell... sprint wants more things that sell to make more money...
I think this would be good, in coming customers who wish to have an iphone with a network you don't have to worry about usage, whih is what a lot of new apple users are looking for. Ease of use and no issues, well I don't necessarily agree with that. but being how well apple helped verizon I think it could actually help sprint add to their network and net worth.
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I hope they sell a lot but I want the Nexus Prime to sell like 2 it 3 million more!!! I hope Sprint sells a lot I don't want them to lose $$ cuz it can hurt there biz & hurt us in long run unless Google buys them
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Hopefully, Sprint gets an exclusive on a Wimax-enabled iPhone 5 starting this month while the other carriers have to wait for an LTE-enabled iPhone 5 in early 2012.
This is great for Apple, but not so much for Sprint. Apparently they haven't seen how Android sales numbers are trending against Apple. $20BB is a lot to gamble on another company -- especially when you are hoping that every future phone the make will continue to be a hit, even with their decreasing market share.... Kinda late to be a fanboy, but oh well.
If this is true. Then many will jump to Sprint. Will the network handle it?!?
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Android phones are better in my option; however, there is a large number of people that need a Fisher-Price type phone. These people cannot be allowed to have unlimited options. They are people that cannot understand words like; root, rom or even kernel when applied to a cell phone. For this demographic Apple creates the best "Fisher-Price" phone. Sheepeople are told this is the way your phone works, these are your only apps and you will be happy.
Sprint should be able to greatly increase its customers with the addition of this "phone." The only downside is when you are trying to contact customer service about a real issue; you will have to wait on hold while someone is told "open the box. The box your phone came in. The black and yellow box with Sprint and iPhone on it. You have to take the phone out of the box to make a call......"
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Sprint should be able to greatly increase its customers with the addition of this "phone." The only downside is when you are trying to contact customer service about a real issue; you will have to wait on hold while someone is told "open the box. The box your phone came in. The black and yellow box with Sprint and iPhone on it. You have to take the phone out of the box to make a call......"
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LMFAO!!!
The way people use data on their iPhones, we're bound to be heading for tiered data plans. Seriously though Sprint with so many other places to stuff your money you choose apple? Why not invest in your ever so slow network. Especially since they aren't going to see a profit from doing this until 2013.(no exaggeration)
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How is the way people use data on I phones different from how android users use data?
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How is the way people use data on I phones different from how android users use data?
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To quote my friend " I fell asleep with pandora running on my iphone overnight now my bills gonna be huge" lol
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To quote my friend " I fell asleep with pandora running on my iphone overnight now my bills gonna be huge" lol
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As an irrelevant side note, pandora only uses about 30-45mb an hour to run. You could run pandora 24x7 for a week before you hit a 5gb cap.
perhaps I'm missing something, but this seems like an awful big gamble to stake on what, for all intents and purposes, has been revealed to be a 16-month old phone brought to a new carrier. I don't see enough differentiation between the 4 and the 4s to warrant the size of this investment. So, either Sprint's banking solely on the name recognition of iPhone or they anticipate a superior device being delivered sooner rather than later.
Great idea. Invest billions in the next greatest thing to hit the market. Oh wait....the iPhone has been around for years and is losing marketshare at a rapid pace and is in litigation wars with just about every other phone manufacturer. Hitching your cart to the wrong horse in my opinion.
Anyone who wants an iPhone already has one. I doubt there are that many people dying to jump on Sprint with the lack of iPhone being the only thing holding them back.
Wow... Sprint is just fail..
WTF did they do with all that money? It is not even exclusive.
What's going on????????
I was lil bit hyped possibility of owning new iPhone exclusively (note: for resell)..
Hmm... fail Sprint... fail...
p.s. also sprint was mentioned for like 2 seconds during apple presentation.
Wow.. it's actually true.. I am going to get sad..
Unlike a forum for a certain car, like My old Mustang or M3, I know this will be a forever goodbye as I will never get another EVO..
I'm leaving..
After enough BS with Sprint, the promises of 4G, I'm done..
T-mobile, which is lightning fast for my area (down load speeds of 9-12 are not un common)
is having a sale this weekend.. Free phones.. any of them..
i'm getting the GSII
and pretty excited.
But I realized.. For over a year I've been modding and theming, roming, kerneling and radioing with you guys..
Now, its over..
It sucks because there is almost no development for the GSII on T-mobile..
I was gonna wait for the Nexus that Sprint said was going to come this month, now they say mid 2012..
Plus, ZERO LTE.. I don't trust them..
Either way.. I'm out..
thanks for all the help and to dev's you guys are awesome..
P.S. selling my EVO for 50 bucks..
Good luck and totally understand why you're doing this. What I find truly sad is that an awesome phone like the Evo sells for $50, yet an outdated POS like iPhone 3G still sells for $200+ on craigslist.
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Good luck and totally understand why you're doing this. What I find truly sad is that an awesome phone like the Evo sells for $50, yet an outdated POS like iPhone 3G still sells for $200+ on craigslist.
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So true...
SO DAMN TRUE..
Damn, 50$? That's a steal. If I weren't in such dire straits right now I'd love to relieve you of it. I'm sure its kinda sad to ho. I've been a member/participant of the Evo forum since before it was even available. Its been a great ride. Enjoy your Sammy (I wish you a better experience than I or my family and friends have had with Sammy phones)
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yeah its crazy what sprint's doing (nothing). I moved to a new town, a few towns over from where I was living, and last year it was great, the data speeds. A few months ago, garbage. Still, garbage. I've been with sprint for 12 years...and i'm considering moving to another carrier. I feel like gsm will be my next step. i'm so pissed that they're running this company into the ground. wimax was such a bad idea.. i'm just gonna smoke a bowl and try to forget that it takes 10 minutes for my phone to download a facebook update, and google music barely ever streams properly.. yo at least the call quality is still superb though.
Not ALL the TMobile phones are free. The G SII is 229.00, according to their website
Totally understand the need for speed. Here in eastern NC, we're never gonna get 4G of any kind, so I'll stick with Sprint, as their service in this area is second to none and their prices are outstanding.
Gikd luck with the move. If you still feel the need I'm willing to take that evo off your hands. I can help you out with that. Let me know so sorryy to see you go. pm me.
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yeah its crazy what sprint's doing (nothing). I moved to a new town, a few towns over from where I was living, and last year it was great, the data speeds. A few months ago, garbage. Still, garbage. I've been with sprint for 12 years...and i'm considering moving to another carrier. I feel like gsm will be my next step. i'm so pissed that they're running this company into the ground. wimax was such a bad idea.. i'm just gonna smoke a bowl and try to forget that it takes 10 minutes for my phone to download a facebook update, and google music barely ever streams properly.. yo at least the call quality is still superb though.
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Me too.. was with Sprint for 11 years..
I was suckered into the EVO.. Promised (by not only the sales guy but customer service too) that 4G would be in my area within month..
I was asked to pay 10 bucks more a month.... Call it what you want, it was for the 4G!!!
I was going to wait and get the Nexus as I was told its coming this month, I was even told LTE is going to be spread like a wild fire and by the end of 2012 it will be all over the united states..
Then go look at their site, they show a video of where LTE will be installed.. not even in my state..
I got this phone today.. Its sexy as hell.. My download speeds which I've done about 30 now, lol, vary from 22 down 5 up to the lowest of , 6 down 1.5 up..
It's unreal!!
Netflix,Slingplayer,HBO GO, everything is un real fast...
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Not ALL the TMobile phones are free. The G SII is 229.00, according to their website
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It's free today only.. Any phone in their store..
2 year contract, you do have to pay for it upfront, (figured that) and rebate it back..
Just like the damn EVO..
Either way.. this phone is sick!
Good luck with the switch, in your galaxy, far, far away.
pics of said evo's condition...please and thank you!
NetworkVision is going to make some huge improvements in 99% of places guys. Leaving sprint now is like leaving at the absolute worst of times and you'll miss out on the great times in the near future.
LTE will spread like wild fire and be complete by next years end.
Now if you have no problem going and paying more elsewhere and having data caps/throttling then more power to ya.
A site for some very solid sprint network info that I've run across is "s4grub.com" as there is a wealth of detailed information there, most of which you couldn't even get from sprint themselves.
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NetworkVision is going to make some huge improvements in 99% of places guys. Leaving sprint now is like leaving at the absolute worst of times and you'll miss out on the great times in the near future.
LTE will spread like wild fire and be complete by next years end.
Now if you have no problem going and paying more elsewhere and having data caps/throttling then more power to ya.
A site for some very solid sprint network info that I've run across is "s4grub.com" as there is a wealth of detailed information there, most of which you couldn't even get from sprint themselves.
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I sure hope they do complete it that fast.
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NetworkVision is going to make some huge improvements in 99% of places guys. Leaving sprint now is like leaving at the absolute worst of times and you'll miss out on the great times in the near future.
LTE will spread like wild fire and be complete by next years end.
Now if you have no problem going and paying more elsewhere and having data caps/throttling then more power to ya.
A site for some very solid sprint network info that I've run across is "s4grub.com" as there is a wealth of detailed information there, most of which you couldn't even get from sprint themselves.
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I get nothing at that website.
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Wow, I have 5 lines with Sprint and was looking to change over. Just will cost me a few hundred to get out of 3 of the lines. Good luck!!
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I get nothing at that website.
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Ha my bad misstyped it. There no b in the address LOL.
S4gru.com
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LTE will spread like wild fire and be complete by next years end.
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Been hearing the same **** about "plain old" 4G for the last 3 years. Now miraculously Sprint is going to be "complete" with ANYTHING?
I won't hold my breath.
Or maybe I will at least until May when my Sprint contract is up....
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Been hearing the same **** about "plain old" 4G for the last 3 years. Now miraculously Sprint is going to be "complete" with ANYTHING?
I won't hold my breath.
Or maybe I will at least until May when my Sprint contract is up....
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Go to the site I linked and read up this is completely different than Wimax by far.
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If you have not sold your EVO, I'll give you $50. Call me @319-337-9842
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Just wondering what you guys are gonna do with your beloved evo after you have upgraded?
at the moment im looking into switching carriers to to lack of any cdma (at that sprint) towers in my area so my evo will be demoted to a voip phone using grooveip (actually it already has been so i can still use to to make calls) and keep my google voice intergration to have texts still come through. and other than that it will be a glorified mp3 player with its 32gb of storage .
so is it gonna be a paper weight or how are you gonna repurpose it
I will put it in a frame and hang it up in the living room LOL
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donate it to a dev in EVO forum.
I will be adopting mine into a new and loving family, where I believe it will continue a long and happy life, flashing and re-flashing and getting new mods... *sigh* they grow up so fast...
Since my wife will continue to use her OG, I'll be keeping mine as a backup.
In fact, I probably won't even be using my new LTE device at all until after LTE rolls out in my area. Since I have such good 4G where I live and travel, I think I'll just continue to keep my OG activated, and use the LTEVO as a Wi-Fi only device until I can get LTE on it. And hopefully, until it's fully unlockable.
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Just wondering what you guys are gonna do with your beloved evo after you have upgraded?
at the moment im looking into switching carriers to to lack of any cdma (at that sprint) towers in my area so my evo will be demoted to a voip phone using grooveip (actually it already has been so i can still use to to make calls) and keep my google voice intergration to have texts still come through. and other than that it will be a glorified mp3 player with its 32gb of storage .
so is it gonna be a paper weight or how are you gonna repurpose it
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I'm actually looking at doing the same thing since i'm going to be moving back to an area that sprint basically doesn't exist.I have been checking out Verizon phones but haven't found one that I would be 100% happy with. So idk what i'm going to do. And the Evo will still be used to flash roms and a media player (32GB SD FTW!)
Grooveip has been a savior lol sucks to be with out data when I'm out and about
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I've never tried GrooveIP is that like Google Voice? Google Voice has saved me alot of times haha. Comes in handy when flashing roms too never have to back text or voicemail.
Keeping it Just like I kept my G1 It is hiding around somewhere in this house
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Just wondering what you guys are gonna do with your beloved evo after you have upgraded?
at the moment im looking into switching carriers to to lack of any cdma (at that sprint) towers in my area so my evo will be demoted to a voip phone using grooveip (actually it already has been so i can still use to to make calls) and keep my google voice intergration to have texts still come through. and other than that it will be a glorified mp3 player with its 32gb of storage .
so is it gonna be a paper weight or how are you gonna repurpose it
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I had considered trading it in, but I decided I'm going to keep it for development purposes. I'm moving on to the LTEvo but can't imagine not having a ROM in the works for the OG. I think we are far from maxing out the potential of this device and it will remain a proving ground for up and coming developers.
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I've never tried GrooveIP is that like Google Voice? Google Voice has saved me alot of times haha. Comes in handy when flashing roms too never have to back text or voicemail.
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groove ip uses your google voice number as a real phone number. such as i have set up the full voice intergration with my number so as long as i have a data connection or roaming data when im out i will get a phone call and of course if i turn data off it will just revert back to the standard method of phone calls but as i said i have zero signal at the house so it allows calls over wifi like some gsm carriers can do and other things like skype and what not but without having to give a diff number out.
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I had considered trading it in, but I decided I'm going to keep it for development purposes. I'm moving on to the LTEvo but can't imagine not having a ROM in the works for the OG. I think we are far from maxing out the potential of this device and it will remain a proving ground for up and coming developers.
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and thank god my evo loves your roms lol
Well since I'm the most poorest guy on this site, it will take me 1yr to save up 300bucks for a new phone. I have no contract since my phone is og evo with boost mobile network. But if I have an upgrade I'll say use this as a play phone so I can still show off my phone.
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Well since I'm the most poorest guy on this site, it will take me 1yr to save up 300bucks for a new phone. I have no contract since my phone is og evo with boost mobile network. But if I have an upgrade I'll say use this as a play phone so I can still show off my phone.
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stop wasting your money on weed ^_^
Hahahaha. Was thinking exactly the same type comment lol
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I'll be donating it to my twin girls after flashing an inverted pink mikg theme on it
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I'll make it my new home phone thanks to my Google number
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we have three evo s in the house. two are used as phones and the other is a rescue from the drink a few months back. Its currently living on as my XBMC remote and a back up if ever one of the other two goes down.
these phones rock and have the specs to stay in use for years to come.
oodork123 said:
Well since I'm the most poorest guy on this site, it will take me 1yr to save up 300bucks for a new phone. I have no contract since my phone is og evo with boost mobile network. But if I have an upgrade I'll say use this as a play phone so I can still show off my phone.
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im in the same boat as u....i love my og and will continue to let it roll with boost till it gives up.....when u come from an i870 to the og i feel like a very lucky man..as we say in the south crappin in high cotton...lol
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I'll make it my new home phone thanks to my Google number
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I still haven't messed with Google voice. Can you just make up a number, leave wifi on use it for home phone? What's your plan?
Thanks
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Mine will probably just go back in the box, like all of my other phones that have been retired. I am thinking about keeping it out just to try out the new roms that come out in the future.