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T-mobile customers--sign the petition!

If you love TMo and want to keep it away from the Death Star, SIGN!!!!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-t-mobile-from-being-bought-by-att/

nice idea...but seriously do these things even get anywhere?

presence06 said:
nice idea...but seriously do these things even get anywhere?
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It's called slacktivism - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slacktivism
And no, it doesn't.

Waste of TIME! I personally think it would be a good thing. Bigger/Biggest network to start, not like TMO employees would go anywhere, they'd still be there except working for AT&T, might teach AT&T CSR's a thing or two. Just my opinion though, and personally I don't that petition will amount to anything other than wishful thinking. I could/may be wrong but I don't think so.

Doesn't hurt
personally, I'm so mad about this I don't want to have a phone in 12 months if att/sprint/vw are the only options. Meh, take it as you will--just re-posting jIC.

If you want a petition that actually stands a tiny chance of going somewhere, try to get Google to buy T-Mobile. AT&T doesn't give a **** what some developers on an Android forum think. Google does, since this group of people helps expand their OS.

39 million is at stake here. Think about that.
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It's better wrote to congress, you know.

I signed it. I guess I'm an optimist, but I feel like anything I can try to prevent the merger should be done. You never truly know if it will work or not, and maybe the FCC and DOJ will actually listen to the people. But obviously my opinion differs from pretty much everybody else on XDA.

I thought it was 39 billion.
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domtru said:
39 million is at stake here. Think about that.
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thats Billion.....................

found the following and it might be helpful (maybe):
http://www.cell-phone-towers.com/will-the-att-merger-with-tmobile-help-consumers.html

AT&T doesn't care about customers. Sure it will be nice to claim most wireless customers in the US, but the real reason they're buying T-Mobile is for wireless spectrum. 39B USD is a nice deal for added wireless spectrum and the added customers is a nice bonus.
Write/call your congressional representative or the FCC. It'll mean more than signing an internet petition.

would there be a way to actually get out of contract BEFORE the merger starts without paying ETF because of this move?

wrote my congressmen about this I wonder if I will get any kind of response from them about it.

i like the idea...

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wrote my congressmen about this I wonder if I will get any kind of response from them about it.
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http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?lname=AT&T+Inc&year=2010
AT&T is just a little behind Verizon in contributions.
The list of recipients for their donations is also quite long.
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/recips.php?cycle=2010&id=D000000076
And match up nicely with the House committee.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_Energy_and_Commerce

signed! screw at&t!

Million. Haha. Yeah, billion! No voice is that loud.
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/shrugs/
If AT&T/T-Mo doesn't merge Verizon will have almost a monopoly on LTE becuase they gobbled up so much spectrum and will have such big coverage.
Sprint pretty much sacked themselves with the WiMax bull****. That was a bad move and it didn't really benefit them in the long-run, IMO, since GSM networks were able to upgrade to HSPA+ so quickly and cheaply (software upgrade) and rival their WiMax speeds (which is expensive to build out, not to mention those WiMax phones have terribad battery life when using 4G).
Sprint is complaining. Verizon doesn't care.
Do I care? No. I need at least 3G where I live and no carrier has it here yet, except AT&T. They're the only ones around here who are building their network out in rural areas. T-Mobile's network is too small. It's terribad for people who travel, too.
I hope this happens sooner than later. AT&T has better phones as well. And I've never had any CS issues with them...

Dan Hess on Mad Money with Kramer on CNBC

Did anyone catch the CEO of sprint, Dan Hess on this? I was very impressed with what he had to say. He was very confident and addressed real issues that I see us sprint fanatics discuss. I'm sure it will be up in youtube shortly. He was calm and confident, he said that they investing in clearwire is going to continue even with clearwire's financial woes. Thoughts, Opinions?

I'll wait until I see improvements on the phone in my hand...
Would like to see the video, though.

Will look for it. But that Kramer guy is a total clown. Usually keeps me from ever thinking of tuning in.
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Although people are generally whiny and complain-y about Sprint, especially on these forums, Sprint has made a lot of positive improvements as of the last couple years.
Their phone line up = :thumbs up:
They need to pick a "4g" standard, continue to improve their customer service and their network and I think they're good to go.
They may never be number 1.
But honestly, I don't think I'd want them to be as it would require bending over the customer. [No really, pay attention to the "number 1" businesses across most sectors, they are usually the most greedy and rated worst for customer service]
Sprint's outlook is pretty good.
I think their number 1 priority should be to hurry up on getting that iDen network down and running LTE or Wimax or whatever through it.

I agree I have seen a lot of changes at sprint mostly for the better. Although I have seen the network speed drop so ce the evo's release. I chalk that up to the added users on smart phones. Either way 3g is plenty fine for me. 4g kills my battery and have only used it once to try it out and see what the fuss was. I will stick to 3g just get it running solid.
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Im very impressed with them bumping 4G upload speeds to 1.5mb for everyone. I guess that's a start......

The future is bright for Sprint just wait guys!
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Here's something, ermm, interesting.

Saw this as a comment on an androidcentral post about the within:
Listen up and listen good cuz I don't lie or play when it comes to this stuff... Sprint Is kicking but this year and will continue that but kicking like none of you can imagine. I am a sprint employee work at the West Hollywood Store in CA. It's the flagship store for the west coast Dan Hesse frequents our store device's come through our store sometimes up to 5 months before a rumor about it hits the internet. This is a HUGE year for sprint if you understand business in the least bit you know corporate change takes time. If you can't see the changes sprint has made and continue to make for the better than your just blind or don know what to look for. I know some of you may call me bias and your right I am. But only to one thing and that's customer experience. I love that SPRINT by maintaining is price plans is forcing AT& T and T-Mob todo stuff like the 70 dollar unlimited data even if it is capped. Yes thee above pic is the GS2 i've held it. YES it will be 4G yes we are getting a keyboard version as well as the standard GS2. Yes that phone will also be 4G and dual core not single core. The its not for certain it will be the epic2 or called epic at all. Yes the GS2 is a vicious competitor for the Evo 3D from personal experience I still think the Evo 3D is better. I prefer sense over touch anything I trust htc more than samsungs when it comes to mobile anything and the internal update system htc uses not having to wait for sprint like the last two patches they did for the 3d speaks volumes. Add htcsense.com to that and better build quality and you begin to edge out the competition. Admittedly not by much with the GS2 but still its an edge. As far as the YouTube comparisons of the GS2 to the Sensation to gauge it again the 3D, don't make me laugh the 3D itself makes the sensation look the same way. In no way am I denying the amazingness that is the GS2 I just PREFER htc that's all. Last but not least the GS2 is really really fast it was a tad and I do mean a TAD faster than my 3D but..... My Evo is jam packed 6 email accounts syncing about 80 apps 7 custom scenes setup the whole 9 and the GS2 was but naked not even signed into a gmail account. I say that today this when you watch these comparison vids take into account what may or may not be on the devices in question in terms of data info etc... Once you get these devices in hand your speed milage Will vary depending on how much you throw at your device. It's a good time to be with sprint I'm not even going to get into the improvements happening to the network ill save that for another post. And oh yeah in case you were skeptical on the matter we are absolutely getting the iphone so tell all your apple juice drinking buddies that VZ and AT&T's are numbered it'll be here before you know it. The real question is will it be 4G and honestly even I don't have that answer................ Yet. PS if your in the LA area and you want to switch to sprint I can give you 125 dollar port in credit... Yes we pay YOU 125.00 bucks to KEEP your number give me a shout PM me. Duece
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Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

Killer! jumping on that bish like no other lol

Thats a ****in huge wall of text.....but I'm excited for a keyboard galaxy S[exy] variant again and dual core....saving up my money now

Hahaha!!! That GS2 keyboard version is MINE baby the day it hits the floor with its sexy dual-core speed, and I still have my upgrade left so ill get it for the nw contract price...that's a damn beautiful thing....I can't wait to hear about official names and specs for the regular SG2 and the keyboard SG2....this exited me for the phone releases AND. For the service improvements....let's go Sprint baby....to all u otha sucka ass carriers like Gucci Mane said, "you deserve betta baby, betta baby, betta baby!)
Sent from my rooted, suited, & booted Epic 4G kno dat!

My head hurts.

GS2 with a keyboard...I'm sold
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I trust nothing of what that guy wrote. Everytime someone claims to have advanced knowledge they are wrong completely. Why the eff would sprint bring rumored phones around a retail store before they are even announced? That just makes no sense. I have dealt with enough sprint employees who "have the scoop" and turn out to be collosal nitwits before to believe that some random sprint store employee got the scoop on sprint getting the iphone.
I do think he is a sprint employee though because every sprint employee I have ever dealt with is a huge fanboy of the evo.
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I haven't heard the details he has shared, but my corp rep brought the regional network rep out who knows all the tech updates and all the phone releases. He said the biggest thing sprint has in the pipe is the network updates. Everyone is getting phones, they are rolling out new tower hardware making speeds, signal quality and increase the number of clients able to hit the servers. He told me it would be a 2 year rollout, but we had 36 tower updates last month. He said there are about 40 new devices rolling out and they would rock!
Ill buy what that guy was selling
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I don't trust anyone that doesn't know the difference between your and you're.

Winner
bigray327 said:
I don't trust anyone that doesn't know the difference between your and you're.
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bigray327 said:
I don't trust anyone that doesn't know the difference between your and you're.
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Who doesn't make that mistake every once in a while.
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AJC9000 said:
Thats a ****in huge wall of text.....but I'm excited for a keyboard galaxy S[exy] variant again and dual core....saving up my money now
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Yes!
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bigray327 said:
I don't trust anyone that doesn't know the difference between your and you're.
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of "kicking but" and "kicking butt"

"Let's eat, grandma."
"Let's eat grandma."
Punctuation saves lives.

tpike said:
I haven't heard the details he has shared, but my corp rep brought the regional network rep out who knows all the tech updates and all the phone releases. He said the biggest thing sprint has in the pipe is the network updates. Everyone is getting phones, they are rolling out new tower hardware making speeds, signal quality and increase the number of clients able to hit the servers. He told me it would be a 2 year rollout, but we had 36 tower updates last month. He said there are about 40 new devices rolling out and they would rock!
Ill buy what that guy was selling
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tpike added his credentials to that , so that is good news

The Root said:
"Let's eat, grandma."
"Let's eat grandma."
Punctuation saves lives.
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So very true.
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The Root said:
"Let's eat, grandma."
"Let's eat grandma."
Punctuation saves lives.
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"I helped my uncle jack off a horse."
"I helped my Uncle Jack off a horse."
So does capitalization.
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I work for a regional electronics and appliance chain, that is becoming a full device sprint dealer this fall. At a training event for sales reps the sprint trainer brought up an iphone 5 variant for sprint a few times. Interesting to hear it from this guy as well. Although if I had to guess, they are both misreading it, and all we are likely to see is the new prepaid iphone version coming out for virgin.
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I hate when people say the EVO 3d is a better phone than SG2 even though across the board SG2 eats 3d. Granted htc sense 3.0 is sexy, but MIUI is better

Sprint's overall phone lineup is strong with or without the iPhone. It has been for a while. The issues are that they have to quickly maintain and improve their network and hold prices and plans to the attractive level they are now. I don't believe in corporate hype, I believe in underpromising and overdelivering. Sprint did that in the years I've been with them.
Now they have to continue so they can grow and poach away customers who get sick of being robbed by Verizon and AT&T. But without the network that's going to be even harder to do. Take my neighborhood for example--coverage here is poor, Sprint probably has no customers other than people like me who figured out how to force roam, or those who have Airaves. And it's doubtful any new towers are planned, so they better get busy on these network improvement miracles, because reasonably priced unlimited 4G makes no difference to those who can't get it.

Interesting speculation. Apple buy Sprint?

http://goo.gl/M16Ct
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iphone5 only at sprint?
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/11/10/03/2114206/sprint-bets-big-on-the-iphone

I hate to say this I really do.
But they have the cash... The cash can easily be spent on making the network the fastest there is. I wish a company with the $$$ would do this.

This is the first thing that I have ever read that involves Apple that sounds like a good idea to me. If Apple does buy the network they WILL put the money into the network to make it much better. Most likely the fastest of ALL networks not just the major 4. I hate Apple, I mean I really hate Apple,but if this does happen we could have a major overhaul of our network and we would actually get great speeds as opposed to the decent speeds in some areas and terrible speeds in other areas. I say for the first time ever to Apple, GO FOR IT!

Antitrust.
KJ

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Antitrust.
KJ
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Yeah, there's just no way this would be allowed.
And to the person that thought this was a good idea... yeeaaaahhhhh not sure what you're smoking.
We think At&t and Verizon [and really the whole industry anymore] are bad with the lock downs and penny pinching?
Let Apple own a carrier.

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This is the first thing that I have ever read that involves Apple that sounds like a good idea to me. If Apple does buy the network they WILL put the money into the network to make it much better. Most likely the fastest of ALL networks not just the major 4. I hate Apple, I mean I really hate Apple,but if this does happen we could have a major overhaul of our network and we would actually get great speeds as opposed to the decent speeds in some areas and terrible speeds in other areas. I say for the first time ever to Apple, GO FOR IT!
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I agree but I also have some reservations on this, mainly pricing. Everything apple makes tends to be on the expensive side. I'm on Sprint not because it carries the phone I want or because it's got the best coverage, but because it's the cheapest carrier for high end smart phones that include everything you need. No extra charges for GPS access or unlimited texting or anything goofy like that. Point I guess is that if Apple does buy Sprint I hope the pricing stays the same. Otherwise I'll probably have to move back over to Verizon or T-Mobile.

Evo4eva said:
This is the first thing that I have ever read that involves Apple that sounds like a good idea to me. If Apple does buy the network they WILL put the money into the network to make it much better. Most likely the fastest of ALL networks not just the major 4. I hate Apple, I mean I really hate Apple,but if this does happen we could have a major overhaul of our network and we would actually get great speeds as opposed to the decent speeds in some areas and terrible speeds in other areas. I say for the first time ever to Apple, GO FOR IT!
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Yes...and a 50% hike in your bill. And data throttling. And great data plans like "2GB for 25 bucks a month," And all the crap that goes along with Apple.....
Horrible idea.

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Yes...and a 50% hike in your bill. And data throttling. And great data plans like "2GB for 25 bucks a month," And all the crap that goes along with Apple.....
Horrible idea.
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You're a moron. Apple is not the cause of the throttling.

Apple makes hardware, and they've chosen a business model to make hardware for certain carriers, either because it made sense, or because that particular carrier bought exclusive rights. Don't quote me, but I think they sell the iPhone in a lot of countries. I don't think it would make much sense for Sprint, but then again they've been doing a lot of little stuff as side-business/sub-business because there is a market for it.

^^ ^^ Apple makes software. Not hardware. They buy hardware from multitude of companies
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I don't really think that would be a good thing. If Apple buy's sprint then I think Apple will start trying to close the market off for google's Android.

Man Steve must be rolling over in his......Oh wait too soon
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I don't buy it.
As mentioned above, Apple is a software/niche hardware company. They sell an image as much as anything. They would not want to get slogged down with wires and towers and coast-to-coast utility servicing....it just isn't what they do (or would be good at).

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Antitrust.
KJ
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1st off I'll let everyone know that I'm not a complete moron. I admit I can't build my own ROM but I can't see why this would violate any antitrust laws. How would this be any different than when the iPhone was only on AT&T? If you wanted an iPhone then you basically were stuck with AT&T. Plus when you have as much cash as Apple has you can "buy" a waiver from the government. Unless I'm missing something I can't see any way Apple buying Sprint would/could harm other mobile carriers other than those carriers couldn't sell the iPhone.

Antitrust, anticompetition, and a step toward monopolizing the industry. FCC cockblocked the at&t/t-moble merge, making the mere notion of Apple owning it's own carrier ludicrous at best.
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Antitrust, anticompetition, and a step toward monopolizing the industry. FCC cockblocked the at&t/t-moble merge, making the mere notion of Apple owning it's own carrier ludicrous at best.
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shochu808 said:
Antitrust, anticompetition, and a step toward monopolizing the industry. FCC cockblocked the at&t/t-moble merge, making the mere notion of Apple owning it's own carrier ludicrous at best.
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A carrier owning their own Network is completely fine under the law. If they wanna pay for it, it's theirs to have. As long as they aren't limiting peoples choice of networks, it's all fine. Clearly Apple would not be doing this. There are other carriers, and nothing Apple can ever do will make you unable to simply switch to one of them. Even if they made future iPhones Sprint exclusives, in the eyes of the law that is their god-given right and there's nothing shady or illegal about it. You *still* have a choice of networks, no one said you have a right to buy an iPhone.
And anyway, Apple will NEVER(mark my words) make an iPhone Sprint exclusive(except maybe for a few weeks at launch). This would be a slap in the face to all the people who support them(literally EVERYONE OF THEM at this point) by buying iPhones while on other networks. Not to mention Sprint is a very small Network and will always be compared to the big two, and nothing Apple can do is gonna change that. So why would they limit themselves in that way?
But despite everything you might read, Apple likely has NO interest in buying Sprint. Why the hell would they? Give me one logical reason? It just makes no sense what-so-ever. But those of you are are using Anti-Trust Law as a reason why it wouldn't be possible really need to look up Anti-Trust in a dictionary because Apple having a foothold in 2 entirely separate but logically linked fields isn't even remotely close to a monopoly. A monopoly of what? Them owning Sprint can't effect your choice of carrier OR handsets. Them owning Apple can't either.

@ landora, in your honest opinion, do you think this would pass through the FCC?
However, I totally agree with your business angle. It would shock me if Apple ever made an attempt to either merge or takeover one of the existing carriers. Cost would make it a huge risk, and too much capital and attention would be devoted toward raising customer satisfaction levels that meet their high standards.
I never said it was against the law, I listed reasons the FCC might consider if this ever got thrown their way. If this crazy notion ever made it through...and not that it would make business sense, what's stopping them from mailing free iPhones to their competitor's customers offering them better carrier service and pricing. Owning both entities could eventually pay off. Initially take a loss on the phone, a later profit from carrier fees. Existing carriers begin to fold not able to compete as Apple gains market share.
All this said without factoring in the broadband packages they could offer if customers purchasrd their macbooks or macpros.
This analogy is extreme, but how different would this be if say British Petroleum decided to by Toyota or Ford?
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To keep it simple
Hell freaking no.
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Sprint to buy 20$ BILLION worth of iPhone in next 4 years!!!

Just read an article online & it said sprint takes big risks to buy 20 billion worth of iPhone in next 4 years but that they are going to get the iPhone 5 while At&t & Verizon get iPhone 4s then I think they get the 5 early 2012!! I think Sprint crazy to put up that much they should of did maybe 10&?$billion & use the other 10billion to build out there 4g lte to get it out to people faster!!! What you guys think
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Oh dude, people will be so pissed if this is true... most people in my area hate sprint because of how crappy the service is while I cling tightly to my unlimited data despite its constant slowness.
It makes sense as to why sprint would do this and I do see this bringing in a good rush of customers, but to bank so much money on exclusivity for a few months seems like a gamble to me.
Time will tell though, its not like we have to wait that long to find out...
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link to article please

its not going to be exclusive, that is just to get apple to join sprint, like said it will buy 20billion worth of iphones in the next 4 years so its just to get apple to get in bed with sprint, not exclusive
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/03/sprint-places-20-billion-order-for-next-iphone-hinges-company/

That a ton of mula sprint why that much? I looked online read & posted about it I think sprint should of not spent that much if apple didn't want to give them the iPhone 5 then sprint should of told them f u & spend there $ on building out there 4g LTE & Try & get the Nexus Prime as early as they could & then tell Samsung that when they make the new Galaxy S3 instead of having the. U.S.A get the phone last like we did the S2 Epic Touch . Sprint pays a little more to get it first!
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That a ton of mula sprint why that much? I looked online read & posted about it I think sprint should of not spent that much if apple didn't want to give them the iPhone 5 then sprint should of told them f u & spend there $ on building out there 4g LTE & Try & get the Nexus Prime as early as they could & then tell Samsung that when they make the new Galaxy S3 instead of having the. U.S.A get the phone last like we did the S2 Epic Touch . Sprint pays a little more to get it first!
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not like theyre giving the money away, they going to sell the phone and make a profit/add customers with this... as we've seen iphones sell... sprint wants more things that sell to make more money...

I think this would be good, in coming customers who wish to have an iphone with a network you don't have to worry about usage, whih is what a lot of new apple users are looking for. Ease of use and no issues, well I don't necessarily agree with that. but being how well apple helped verizon I think it could actually help sprint add to their network and net worth.
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I hope they sell a lot but I want the Nexus Prime to sell like 2 it 3 million more!!! I hope Sprint sells a lot I don't want them to lose $$ cuz it can hurt there biz & hurt us in long run unless Google buys them
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Hopefully, Sprint gets an exclusive on a Wimax-enabled iPhone 5 starting this month while the other carriers have to wait for an LTE-enabled iPhone 5 in early 2012.

This is great for Apple, but not so much for Sprint. Apparently they haven't seen how Android sales numbers are trending against Apple. $20BB is a lot to gamble on another company -- especially when you are hoping that every future phone the make will continue to be a hit, even with their decreasing market share.... Kinda late to be a fanboy, but oh well.

If this is true. Then many will jump to Sprint. Will the network handle it?!?
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Missing Market
Android phones are better in my option; however, there is a large number of people that need a Fisher-Price type phone. These people cannot be allowed to have unlimited options. They are people that cannot understand words like; root, rom or even kernel when applied to a cell phone. For this demographic Apple creates the best "Fisher-Price" phone. Sheepeople are told this is the way your phone works, these are your only apps and you will be happy.
Sprint should be able to greatly increase its customers with the addition of this "phone." The only downside is when you are trying to contact customer service about a real issue; you will have to wait on hold while someone is told "open the box. The box your phone came in. The black and yellow box with Sprint and iPhone on it. You have to take the phone out of the box to make a call......"

inunishi said:
Sprint should be able to greatly increase its customers with the addition of this "phone." The only downside is when you are trying to contact customer service about a real issue; you will have to wait on hold while someone is told "open the box. The box your phone came in. The black and yellow box with Sprint and iPhone on it. You have to take the phone out of the box to make a call......"
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LMFAO!!!

The way people use data on their iPhones, we're bound to be heading for tiered data plans. Seriously though Sprint with so many other places to stuff your money you choose apple? Why not invest in your ever so slow network. Especially since they aren't going to see a profit from doing this until 2013.(no exaggeration)
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How is the way people use data on I phones different from how android users use data?
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BrooklynsFinest said:
How is the way people use data on I phones different from how android users use data?
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To quote my friend " I fell asleep with pandora running on my iphone overnight now my bills gonna be huge" lol
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xopher.hunter said:
To quote my friend " I fell asleep with pandora running on my iphone overnight now my bills gonna be huge" lol
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As an irrelevant side note, pandora only uses about 30-45mb an hour to run. You could run pandora 24x7 for a week before you hit a 5gb cap.

perhaps I'm missing something, but this seems like an awful big gamble to stake on what, for all intents and purposes, has been revealed to be a 16-month old phone brought to a new carrier. I don't see enough differentiation between the 4 and the 4s to warrant the size of this investment. So, either Sprint's banking solely on the name recognition of iPhone or they anticipate a superior device being delivered sooner rather than later.

Great idea. Invest billions in the next greatest thing to hit the market. Oh wait....the iPhone has been around for years and is losing marketshare at a rapid pace and is in litigation wars with just about every other phone manufacturer. Hitching your cart to the wrong horse in my opinion.
Anyone who wants an iPhone already has one. I doubt there are that many people dying to jump on Sprint with the lack of iPhone being the only thing holding them back.

Wow... Sprint is just fail..
WTF did they do with all that money? It is not even exclusive.
What's going on????????
I was lil bit hyped possibility of owning new iPhone exclusively (note: for resell)..
Hmm... fail Sprint... fail...
p.s. also sprint was mentioned for like 2 seconds during apple presentation.