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I think I bricked my N1. Please help!

So I realized this the moment after I hit the trackball to select my .zip. To make things simple: I had cyanogen 5.0.6 and I accidentally flashed 2.2 for custom bootloaders. My phone won't even turn on...AT ALL. Am I ****ed?

Can you not get in the recovery image by holding down trackball and power button?

No. I don't know what to do. I flashed the Stock image earlier and it took awhile for my phone to turn on, but it did start up after a few minutes. Also it had a Radio that it flashed. Could it have been for the Tmobile model? I am on the AT&T version. Nothing will turn on.

did you try removing the battery ?

I did. I called support and they want me to send it in. Hopefully I will be one of the lucky people that HTC takes even if there is some broken rules.

xxjoshuaaxx said:
I did. I called support and they want me to send it in. Hopefully I will be one of the lucky people that HTC takes even if there is some broken rules.
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Awwww
Best of luck!
Since its just Software related, maybe you will get lucky

Exactly why I try to avoid toying with the radio at all times..

Stupid me didn't notice the radio change. What do you think HTC will do?

xxjoshuaaxx said:
Stupid me didn't notice the radio change. What do you think HTC will do?
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Good luck. They are currently denying my warranty - even though my last Nexus went in TWICE, and they even DOA replaced it with body damage and an unlocked bootloader. Both times they just reverted the software back to locked, no questions asked. This time, after sending in the refurbed phone they gave me last month due to a faulty headphone jack, they say my "illegal software" voids my warranty - even though software can't break a headphone jack.

SANTilt said:
Good luck. They are currently denying my warranty - even though my last Nexus went in TWICE, and they even DOA replaced it with body damage and an unlocked bootloader. Both times they just reverted the software back to locked, no questions asked. This time, after sending in the refurbed phone they gave me last month due to a faulty headphone jack, they say my "illegal software" voids my warranty - even though software can't break a headphone jack.
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That could also be their way of saying we have fixed two phones of yours with unlocked (voided) warranties, we aren't doing it a third time... aka, three strikes and you are out. To be honest, I would be singing the praises of a company that warrantied a phone twice, even though I knowingly voided my warranty and agreed to a contract saying as much during the process.
OP, good luck! As this person's history shows, they are willing to go above and beyond with in reason. If I were you, before sending it in, I would try tossing it on the charger to make sure the battery isn't dead... flashing uses up a lot of juice, and messes with battery stats to an extent that can cause the phone to think a low battery is actually a dead battery, thus it doesn't power on since it doesn't want to die mid boot, which is bad.

Yeah, plug it in and see if you get the charging led, if you do let it charge for a while. Then try booting to recovery. If you cant unplug it and pull the battery. Plug it back in and hold down the power button for 15 seconds, put the battery in while still holding the power button for another 15 seconds or so. You got nothing to lose if it is bricked so give it a go. Check back if it lights off. Just a hint but I only keep whatever I'm going to flash on the root of the sd with the rest of the zips in a file. Keeps you from being where you are now.

mind keepping the battery out for a little while. i got the same problem yesterday and this solved it : i kept the battery pulled for about 1 minute before i put it back in. then the phone powered on no problems.

SANTilt said:
Good luck. They are currently denying my warranty - even though my last Nexus went in TWICE, and they even DOA replaced it with body damage and an unlocked bootloader. Both times they just reverted the software back to locked, no questions asked. This time, after sending in the refurbed phone they gave me last month due to a faulty headphone jack, they say my "illegal software" voids my warranty - even though software can't break a headphone jack.
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Rhetorical question:
What type of bad "luck" does somebody have to need a warranty replacement three times for a phone that's less than 4 months old?

xxjoshuaaxx said:
So I realized this the moment after I hit the trackball to select my .zip. To make things simple: I had cyanogen 5.0.6 and I accidentally flashed 2.2 for custom bootloaders. My phone won't even turn on...AT ALL. Am I ****ed?
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I may be stupid, but that doesn't sound like you were doing anything wrong. I think that is how many people upgraded to FroYo.
What did you do when you thought you had done the wrong thing? You say you realized the moment you hit the trackball. Did you then try to stop it by pulling the battery? If so then you may have pulled it while the radio was flashing, which would brick it for sure.

Maybe they say it's illegal because Froyo is not released yet and they saw part of it installed on your N1.
This sucks big time, I wish you best of luck and I hope they end up fixing it for you.

what happens when you hold volume down and hit power...does the bootloader come up?
I flashed 2.2 over enomther's 1.9.2 on my att frequency n1 and it is working fine, I did the radio update too and it works fine.

pjcforpres said:
That could also be their way of saying we have fixed two phones of yours with unlocked (voided) warranties, we aren't doing it a third time... aka, three strikes and you are out. To be honest, I would be singing the praises of a company that warrantied a phone twice, even though I knowingly voided my warranty and agreed to a contract saying as much during the process.
OP, good luck! As this person's history shows, they are willing to go above and beyond with in reason. If I were you, before sending it in, I would try tossing it on the charger to make sure the battery isn't dead... flashing uses up a lot of juice, and messes with battery stats to an extent that can cause the phone to think a low battery is actually a dead battery, thus it doesn't power on since it doesn't want to die mid boot, which is bad.
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Why would I sing the praises of a company that picks and chooses when it will void a warranty and when it will honor it? Furthermore, under the Manusson-Moss Warranty act of 1975, this behavior is illegal; warrantors of consumer goods cannot void a warranty due to modifications made by the consumer unless they can directly attribute the failure to the modification made. Which they have not done in my case.
Additionally, the first time it went in, was for dust under the screen - something an unlocked bootloader most definitely did not cause. The second time it went in was because they didn't fix it the first time - both times they relocked the phone. Also, the second time the phone went in, they DOA replaced it even though it had physical damage that I had previously been willing to pay for. And now, after they send me a damaged unit, they want to void my hardware warranty because the bootloader is unlocked? That just stinks of a money making scheme. I just called them, and they tell me that they cannot flash the motherboard due to the "illegal software", yet in the email they sent me it's all due to the warranty being void due to "illegal software". They're harping on a non-issue just to make money.
You can sing your praises to scheissty companies all you want - I'll stick to companies that are honest and up front in their dealings - or at least more so than HTFingC.

SANTilt said:
Why would I sing the praises of a company that picks and chooses when it will void a warranty and when it will honor it? Furthermore, under the Manusson-Moss Warranty act of 1975, this behavior is illegal; warrantors of consumer goods cannot void a warranty due to modifications made by the consumer unless they can directly attribute the failure to the modification made. Which they have not done in my case.
Additionally, the first time it went in, was for dust under the screen - something an unlocked bootloader most definitely did not cause. The second time it went in was because they didn't fix it the first time - both times they relocked the phone. Also, the second time the phone went in, they DOA replaced it even though it had physical damage that I had previously been willing to pay for. And now, after they send me a damaged unit, they want to void my hardware warranty because the bootloader is unlocked? That just stinks of a money making scheme. I just called them, and they tell me that they cannot flash the motherboard due to the "illegal software", yet in the email they sent me it's all due to the warranty being void due to "illegal software". They're harping on a non-issue just to make money.
You can sing your praises to scheissty companies all you want - I'll stick to companies that are honest and up front in their dealings - or at least more so than HTFingC.
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Dude, you're pedantic and this is pathetic. Get over yourself. If you expect consumer goods in this day and age to be perfect you need to reset your expectations. Three claims in four months? I bet HTC wishes you went and got a Motorola.

djmcnz said:
Dude, you're pedantic and this is pathetic. Get over yourself. If you expect consumer goods in this day and age to be perfect you need to reset your expectations. Three claims in four months? I bet HTC wishes you went and got a Motorola.
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Huh? Three claims? Reading comprehension much? English > you.

djmcnz said:
Dude, you're pedantic and this is pathetic. Get over yourself. If you expect consumer goods in this day and age to be perfect you need to reset your expectations. Three claims in four months? I bet HTC wishes you went and got a Motorola.
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Yeah I agree.

Bricked N1 and HTC fixed it. FREE!

So last Friday I was attempting to install Galaxy S status bar on my N1, but in the process of trying to do too much I Bricked my phone. Mind you, Im not a complete noob to the process. I've rooted mytouch, G1, and even tinkered with my Shadow, so I'm pretty familiar with the processes, but this time I finally F'd up and I knew it. Phone just flashed orange and green light top right corner. Did my research and saw other posts w/similar problems but all battery related, but I still tried their solutions to no avail. The only thing to do other than to use it as paper weight was to try my warranty, which all of us know is void after unlocking. So I Called HTC warranty hotline and explained my problem without telling them of the custom rom I installed and they gave me two options; replace w/refurb or fix mine, mine is engraved so replacement out of question. So they emailed me a overnight shipping label, I sent it to them on Monday, they received it on Tuesday, Fixed it on Thursday, and I got it back on Friday, good as new. So basically to all who dare to root and mod your phones and Brick it in the process. Try your warranty. Worse they can say is no. In my case they fixed it.

They fixed mine as well and even re-locked the bootloader. Mind you, I ended up rooting it again as soon as I got it back. HTC rocks!
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Now that's service I'm impressed. Frankly I'm impressed with Android and the community. Google knows exactly what people are doing and they go just a step shy of condoning it and now to hear the HTC does this sort of thing knowing fully well that there's a 99% chance it's bricked cause someone was nerding out it
Having come over from a 3GS just about a month ago I am really impressed with Android. The only thing now is a solid hardware platform. I love my Nexus One but there are things HTC could have done better, mainly screen related, and Motorola is etched in my brain as making the most annoying phones in history. But aside from that, I think it's Android for life for me

Are you sure your bricking related to flashing a themed bar?
I thought that bricking your phone was only possible through some low-level processes such as flashing a radio.
Either way, glad they fixed your problems.

Yea. Pretty sure I bricked it. Trying to flash the Galaxy status bar didn't brick it, but the series of mis-steps that followed did. But I got it back, re-unlocked it and happy as can be. Thanx HTC.

Hi, did HTC ask you for an reeipt or proof of warranty? I am asking cause i purchased my nexus from ebay(no receipt or warranty whatsoever) and i've read in other threads that HTC did not ask for these papers considering that the phone is less than 1 yr old.
thanks.

makes me wonder why anyone would want to root without unlocking the bootloader

deeren said:
Hi, did HTC ask you for an reeipt or proof of warranty? I am asking cause i purchased my nexus from ebay(no receipt or warranty whatsoever) and i've read in other threads that HTC did not ask for these papers considering that the phone is less than 1 yr old.
thanks.
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Nope. I bought mine off ebay as well and I even said that on the phone but the lady from HTC said that was fine. They fixed my phone no problem

I am going to attempt a replacement on mine. Except I have the unfortunate issue of the void sticker missing from the screw on the back. I'm going to send it in anyway, since I have a dust under the screen issue. Perhaps they will be nice and replace it anyway. If not, well I guess it will cost me $28 to get it back. Or maybe not that much to have them fix it..

Important Safety Tip For Hardware Locked Vibrants!

This might come off as me preaching here, but I hope I don't come across as high-handed...
If you have a hardware button sequence locked Vibrant you really need to think long and hard about whether or not you should be messing with custom firmwares, ESPECIALLY NOW.
The last few leaked firmwares (JI2, JI4, JI5) are ALL RUNNING A NEW KERNEL. One that is not compatible with JFD derived builds. Furthermore these great new custom kernels provided by our awesome dev's (Voodoo, JAC, Kingclick, etc...) are not compatible with these new leaked builds. So the likelihood of you ending up staring at a really scary screen on your phone is skyrocketing, unless you have reliable methods to deal with that scary screen.
I've ran across numerous posts here today, with all the fervor over the JI5 Kies leak, where people have Clockwork Recovered themselves into a nightmare because they simply didn't understand these points. Even simpler MOD's (like a few posts I found today where people were installing the JFD version of the MobileAP mod on JIx builds and screwing their phones up) can lead to grief if you don't do your homework.
If you cannot reliably get into recovery *AND* download mode, please please be sure you understand the risks your taking if you fail to be careful and read the information that is already here. Granted, I know few people can keep up with some of us and our ability to soak up info like a sponge. Still there is a process of risk assessment YOU MUST BE RESPONSIBLE FOR when you realize you are doing things that you probably shouldn't be.
This doesn't mean I won't continue trying to be helpful. I just want to make it clear to some of you that you really need to think things through more thoroughly before you let your excitement drive you into a corner.
I vote for the following statement to be made a sticky in this and the Q&A Forum...
"If you are updating firmware on a phone, and you've already hacked this and that, tweaked this and that, modified this and that...whatever the case may be you should be prepared to have to Odin your way back to stock.
If you are not prepared to Odin your way back to stock (don't know how, have a hardware button locked phone, etc...) then you should really be asking yourself whether or not you should be customizing your phone to the degree that you are.
It's just about risk assessment. Most risks are known, but some are not. Furthermore there can be bad synergies between multiple tweaks, mods, and/or hacks that no one can easily predict ahead of time. So it's not about anyone trying to be elitist. The best way to help people is to help them avoid making critical mistakes."

actually if u have a hardware locked phone, what you SHOULD do is call tmobile right now and complain that ur phone is defective and they'll send u a new one... keep doing this till u get a working phone, i did and i now have a phone that isn't HL'ed... only took one try

ookas said:
actually if u have a hardware locked phone, what you SHOULD do is call tmobile right now and complain that ur phone is defective and they'll send u a new one... keep doing this till u get a working phone, i did and i now have a phone that isn't HL'ed... only took one try
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Indeed!!!
The hardware locked Galaxy S thing appears to be a bootloader bug affecting more than just our Vibrants (some other batches of Galaxy S phones are affected) rather than a real hardware issue, so T-Mobile should be able to get these fixed readily. Not like we should care about T-Mobile here, but what this means also is that T-Mobile shouldn't be making a huge deal about swapping these out either.
I'd encourage everyone with a button-sequence screwed Vibrant to simply go to T-Mobile and get it replaced.

Admittedly, I was one of those fools who installed the wrong MobileAp and also tried to go back to a nandroid that didn't work (different kernel - or so I have learned.) Bricked the phone. But I wasn't hardware locked so I was able to get everything back thanks to some really helpful people here on the forum.
I agree that all hardware locked phones should be returned. If mine were locked then I'd still be staring at a dead phone.
I would like to add that I am new to the android thing. But, I am not a software noob (i did software testing for a living). The thing is that I am sometimes impulsive and that leads to mistakes. Thankfully, I have a way to get out of the mistakes (ODIN and non-hardware locked phone.) I always know the risk I am taking and take full responsibility for anything I screw up.

How can I tell if I have a hardware-locked phone, without attempting to flash a ROM, I mean?
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aad4321 said:
i have a hardware locked phone that i unlocked and have a custom recovery on. I have only accessed the recovery through rom manger. is there any other way to access it with hardware locked? If so can someone post details. it will be good to know when i mess up my phone and it dosent boot preventing me from accessing rom manager to get to the recovery
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you didn't unlock the hardware. You just simply rooted your phone. Hardware lock can not be unlocked and that's what this thread is trying to address. I have tried exchanging my phone from tmo once and the exchange phone they sent me still had the same problem, so i haven't bother with it. I wonder if i can just walk into a store and do an exchange since i got my phone from tmo online. Anyways, if you have a hardware locked phone, stick with roms that will flash through clockworks. That is the safest way, but keep in mind that there is still a slight chance of failure.

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How can I tell if I have a hardware-locked phone, without attempting to flash a ROM, I mean?
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Never mind; I figured it out.

Man, I'm glad I read your post on hardware-locked problems. I didn't even realise this was a problem until after I dicked around with my phone a bunch, and then ended up reflashing with odin back to stock. I could have messed up big time.
My problem is that I can't replace my phone at all. I purchased a T-Mobile Samsung Vibrant online, brand new, unopened and locked for use here in Canada on the Wind Mobile network.
After hearing about this defective hardware I called T-Mobile, they said I have no warranty with them since it wasn't a T-mobile store purchase. Alright I guess. So they give me the number to Samsung USA,USA transfers me to Canada, I get transferred back again and this is what I'm stuck with.
My new phone has NO warranty, in either country. Both refuse to honour any sort of warranty, and refer to the other for support. I didn't think I'd get this sort of run around from Samsung.
USA says that because I live in Canada, I voided the warranty.,
Canada says that because it's a USA device, and I didn't purchase an international warranty, they won't touch it.
I'll just have to be careful what I install on my phone, and avoid Samsung products in the future.
Thanks for the warning

I wouldn't say your lack of warranty is any surprise. I don't know about Canada, but in the US, phone warranty is normally tied to the carrier, which means if you're not an active customer using the phone on the account that it was first activated on, you will have no warranty. Nothing special about Samsung here, all brands are the same.
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cwoodworth said:
Man, I'm glad I read your post on hardware-locked problems. I didn't even realise this was a problem until after I dicked around with my phone a bunch, and then ended up reflashing with odin back to stock. I could have messed up big time.
My problem is that I can't replace my phone at all. I purchased a T-Mobile Samsung Vibrant online, brand new, unopened and locked for use here in Canada on the Wind Mobile network.
After hearing about this defective hardware I called T-Mobile, they said I have no warranty with them since it wasn't a T-mobile store purchase. Alright I guess. So they give me the number to Samsung USA,USA transfers me to Canada, I get transferred back again and this is what I'm stuck with.
My new phone has NO warranty, in either country. Both refuse to honour any sort of warranty, and refer to the other for support. I didn't think I'd get this sort of run around from Samsung.
USA says that because I live in Canada, I voided the warranty.,
Canada says that because it's a USA device, and I didn't purchase an international warranty, they won't touch it.
I'll just have to be careful what I install on my phone, and avoid Samsung products in the future.
Thanks for the warning
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Other companies will do the same thing. Warranties are country specific, no?

I don't know how it works with mobile phones, but whenever I've purchased computer parts, the country of origin has never been a problem. Maybe I've just been lucky.
Still have gripes about GPS, and lack of 2.2 though.
Don't misunderstand me though, I love this phone. Just surprised about the hardware issues.

I called Samsung today after tmobile rep gave me a number for warranty. After complaining and speaking to a supervisor, they said i could send it in and they would "fix" it. This is what they sent in the email.
Product Symptoms : Technical Inquiry/Internal Menu/Software Reflash - FOC/No fee. The Samsung Rep said a technician would look at it.
I got a shipping label and everything.
I have one question. How should i go about reflashing to stock? can i just factory reset + remove superusers. please help.

cwoodworth said:
I don't know how it works with mobile phones, but whenever I've purchased computer parts, the country of origin has never been a problem. Maybe I've just been lucky.
Still have gripes about GPS, and lack of 2.2 though.
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PC parts aren't as tightly controlled as mobile phones. That's the difference.
GPS and Froyo should be coming soon. I doubt if Samsung would let their best mobile phones fall behind by much. From the leaked firmwares popping up, it shows they're working on it.

warning: shoddy touchscreen -- phone unusable

This will be my last week with this phone, I've had it since April. Everything was fine until about a month ago when the touchscreen started to go all wonky. Actually that's not true, I'm disappointed it can't even use LWP without the whole thing studdering, or how the bootloader was locked down for half the time I've had it.
I tried flashing a new rom, wiping data, installing the 'touchscreen booster' app (which worked well for a few days, but the screen has kept deteriorating). Nothing worked. I never dropped this phone the entire time I've had it. It has a defect, and I'm not the only one that has it. Motorola's forum has a thread 10 pages long with people talking about the ****ty build on their screen.
I got this phone from the USA (I'm from Canada) at full price and unlocked it, I have no warranty -- my fault. Anyways, I'm not sure why I wrote this, but this will be my last motorola phone.
tl;dr If anybody is thinking of buying this phone, I advise you to make sure you have a warranty, or better yet, don't buy it.

get a warranty, yeah its a possibily. And yes every phone has issues. I LOVE my atrix and would not trade it for any other phone at that time. Every batch of phones are going to contain a bad set. Be happy its your motorola Atrix with its touchscreen, and not your Toyota breaks.
Ugh first world problems.

netter159 said:
get a warranty, yeah its a possibily. And yes every phone has issues. I LOVE my atrix and would not trade it for any other phone at that time. Every batch of phones are going to contain a bad set. Be happy its your motorola Atrix with its touchscreen, and not your Toyota breaks.
Ugh first world problems.
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Lmfao Toyota...
When life sucks I just enjoy the head

zeotrope said:
This will be my last week with this phone, I've had it since April. Everything was fine until about a month ago when the touchscreen started to go all wonky. Actually that's not true, I'm disappointed it can't even use LWP without the whole thing studdering, or how the bootloader was locked down for half the time I've had it.
I tried flashing a new rom, wiping data, installing the 'touchscreen booster' app (which worked well for a few days, but the screen has kept deteriorating). Nothing worked. I never dropped this phone the entire time I've had it. It has a defect, and I'm not the only one that has it. Motorola's forum has a thread 10 pages long with people talking about the ****ty build on their screen.
I got this phone from the USA (I'm from Canada) at full price and unlocked it, I have no warranty -- my fault. Anyways, I'm not sure why I wrote this, but this will be my last motorola phone.
tl;dr If anybody is thinking of buying this phone, I advise you to make sure you have a warranty, or better yet, don't buy it.
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.... you lost your warranty.... cause you unlocked it? If that's the case, you do realize that unlocking/rooting has to be proven to be the cause of the issue, right? If you rooted and unlocked your phone, and the screen has taken a crap.... then i don't see any possible way they can deny a claim. Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act. It'd be like buying a new intake for your car, your radio take a sh*t, and they'd say "Nope... you replaced your engine intake, so your warranty is void and you have to pay for the replacement". It can't be done.
As for the other things... uuh.... you knew the bootloader was locked when you bought it... and nobody ever had any word that the bootloader was going to be OFFICIALLY unlocked by anybody. As for live wallpaper... i've never had an issue with it, although i rarely use it since i don't see the point in wasting battery life to have a bit of animation to my background that, unless i'm staring at my home screens for extended periods of time, i never see.

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As for the other things... uuh.... you knew the bootloader was locked when you bought it... and nobody ever had any word that the bootloader was going to be OFFICIALLY unlocked by anybody. As for live wallpaper... i've never had an issue with it, although i rarely use it since i don't see the point in wasting battery life to have a bit of animation to my background that, unless i'm staring at my home screens for extended periods of time, i never see.
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QFT
10 char

zeotrope said:
This will be my last week with this phone, I've had it since April. Everything was fine until about a month ago when the touchscreen started to go all wonky. Actually that's not true, I'm disappointed it can't even use LWP without the whole thing studdering, or how the bootloader was locked down for half the time I've had it.
I tried flashing a new rom, wiping data, installing the 'touchscreen booster' app (which worked well for a few days, but the screen has kept deteriorating). Nothing worked. I never dropped this phone the entire time I've had it. It has a defect, and I'm not the only one that has it. Motorola's forum has a thread 10 pages long with people talking about the ****ty build on their screen.
I got this phone from the USA (I'm from Canada) at full price and unlocked it, I have no warranty -- my fault. Anyways, I'm not sure why I wrote this, but this will be my last motorola phone.
tl;dr If anybody is thinking of buying this phone, I advise you to make sure you have a warranty, or better yet, don't buy it.
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It sounds like something you flashed screwed up your PDS partition. If you have a backup of it, try restoring it.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131649

elementaldragon said:
.... you lost your warranty.... cause you unlocked it? If that's the case, you do realize that unlocking/rooting has to be proven to be the cause of the issue, right? If you rooted and unlocked your phone, and the screen has taken a crap.... then i don't see any possible way they can deny a claim. Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act. It'd be like buying a new intake for your car, your radio take a sh*t, and they'd say "Nope... you replaced your engine intake, so your warranty is void and you have to pay for the replacement". It can't be done.
As for the other things... uuh.... you knew the bootloader was locked when you bought it... and nobody ever had any word that the bootloader was going to be OFFICIALLY unlocked by anybody. As for live wallpaper... i've never had an issue with it, although i rarely use it since i don't see the point in wasting battery life to have a bit of animation to my background that, unless i'm staring at my home screens for extended periods of time, i never see.
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Can't you reflash your phone and relock it?

got it in canada before it came out from another country, called motorola and they said I have no warranty since I'm not in the country I bought it from. not related to unlocked/flashing.
I accept responsibility for not having the warranty, it's my fault. I just want to warn people that there is an issue with a (albeit probably small) subset of atrix's produced.

zeotrope said:
got it in canada before it came out from another country, called motorola and they said I have no warranty since I'm not in the country I bought it from. not related to unlocked/flashing.
I accept responsibility for not having the warranty, it's my fault. I just want to warn people that there is an issue with a (albeit probably small) subset of atrix's produced.
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Looks like it's time for a vacation to the states.

As Jotokun posted, this issue is known to be caused by the PDS partition being corrupting after flashing. Hope you made a backup of everything before you started. No? Was that the Atrix's fault too?
My cousin who bought this phone in May has no problems whatsoever. He's 100% happy with it and never stopped boasting about it until i finally bought it and was amazed by it. The funny this is that we're still on stock firmware, waiting for a stable CM7. Can't wait!

coolnow said:
As Jotokun posted, this issue is known to be caused by the PDS partition being corrupting after flashing. Hope you made a backup of everything before you started. No? Was that the Atrix's fault too?
My cousin who bought this phone in May has no problems whatsoever. He's 100% happy with it and never stopped boasting about it until i finally bought it and was amazed by it. The funny this is that we're still on stock firmware, waiting for a stable CM7. Can't wait!
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The current CM7 Beta is extremely stable - I've been running it for several weeks now and have had absolutely 0 issues. the only things not working are the fingerprint scanner and WebTop. small potatoes if you ask me... I average 2-3 days per charge on my battery on this version of CM7. I use the kernel that it comes with at 1.1Ghz - no need for anything higher than that as you will see NO real world gains - only gains you will see are in benchmark apps... who cares about that...

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The current CM7 Beta is extremely stable - I've been running it for several weeks now and have had absolutely 0 issues. the only things not working are the fingerprint scanner and WebTop. small potatoes if you ask me... I average 2-3 days per charge on my battery on this version of CM7. I use the kernel that it comes with at 1.1Ghz - no need for anything higher than that as you will see NO real world gains - only gains you will see are in benchmark apps... who cares about that...
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i use the 1.3 ghz kernel because between my 5 screens full of widgets and my live wallpaper, the 1.1 ghz kernel caused me to have a slight lag after changing screens. 1.3 ghz kernel gives me a completely smooth experience, no lag anywhere. my phone doesn't overheat either which happened in earlier versions of the kernel.

jgc121 said:
The current CM7 Beta is extremely stable - I've been running it for several weeks now and have had absolutely 0 issues. the only things not working are the fingerprint scanner and WebTop. small potatoes if you ask me... I average 2-3 days per charge on my battery on this version of CM7. I use the kernel that it comes with at 1.1Ghz - no need for anything higher than that as you will see NO real world gains - only gains you will see are in benchmark apps... who cares about that...
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Sounds great! Will probably take the plunge next week or sooner, just itching to try it! I'm used to the fingerprint unlock for ages now, don't know if it will feel the same without it (for now!) Battery life on Motoblur crap is not good for me, although it has constant 3g and Wifi at home with sync 24/7 and i do heavily use it. Actually, scratch that, the battery is still awesome for how much i use it!

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As Jotokun posted, this issue is known to be caused by the PDS partition being corrupting after flashing. Hope you made a backup of everything before you started. No? Was that the Atrix's fault too?
My cousin who bought this phone in May has no problems whatsoever. He's 100% happy with it and never stopped boasting about it until i finally bought it and was amazed by it. The funny this is that we're still on stock firmware, waiting for a stable CM7. Can't wait!
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if your cousin is happy with the phone then i'm happy for him. but i didn't have a good experience with it. all i'm doing is sharing my thoughts, no need to get defensive.
i also experienced this weird grey ring that appears about 1mm away from the screen. it has steadily gotten worse over the last 3 months.
tried the PDS partition fix, didn't do anything. thanks for the suggestion though.

zeotrope said:
This will be my last week with this phone, I've had it since April. Everything was fine until about a month ago when the touchscreen started to go all wonky. Actually that's not true, I'm disappointed it can't even use LWP without the whole thing studdering, or how the bootloader was locked down for half the time I've had it.
I tried flashing a new rom, wiping data, installing the 'touchscreen booster' app (which worked well for a few days, but the screen has kept deteriorating). Nothing worked. I never dropped this phone the entire time I've had it. It has a defect, and I'm not the only one that has it. Motorola's forum has a thread 10 pages long with people talking about the ****ty build on their screen.
I got this phone from the USA (I'm from Canada) at full price and unlocked it, I have no warranty -- my fault. Anyways, I'm not sure why I wrote this, but this will be my last motorola phone.
tl;dr If anybody is thinking of buying this phone, I advise you to make sure you have a warranty, or better yet, don't buy it.
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Nice story. Thanks for sharing.

Good bye
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ITT people who think their ego is under attack because of a phone.

zeotrope said:
ITT people who think their ego is under attack because of a phone.
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Actually it looks like you're the one whose feelings got hurt. First, your post's title "Warning: shoddy touchscreen - phone unusable"? Is this your phone or the Atrix, in general? Second, you warn who? Somebody who might buy this phone at a full price from another country and doesn't have warranty because of that?
And then you end your cry with "You better get warranty on this phone, or better not buy it" crap... because of...? From what I know any Atrix comes with 1 year full manufacturer's warranty so that shouldn't be a concern.
If you're having problems with your phone, just say it that way "my Atrix is crap". I'm perfectly fine with mine the way it came out of the box, afterall it's just a phone I'll probably change in a year or so.
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slimslim said:
Actually it looks like you're the one whose feelings got hurt. First, your post's title "Warning: shoddy touchscreen - phone unusable"? Is this your phone or the Atrix, in general? Second, you warn who? Somebody who might buy this phone at a full price from another country and doesn't have warranty because of that?
And then you end your cry with "You better get warranty on this phone, or better not buy it" crap... because of...? From what I know any Atrix comes with 1 year full manufacturer's warranty so that shouldn't be a concern.
If you're having problems with your phone, just say it that way "my Atrix is crap". I'm perfectly fine with mine the way it came out of the box, afterall it's just a phone I'll probably change in a year or so.
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no need to get so emotional. my atrix is crap. i'm letting people know that some of these phones have an issue. it's probably a small percentage, but they should be wary if they are getting it with no warranty. i'm trying to help people out.
i'm not sure why it matters so much to you. if yours works fine then i'm happy for you. but i had a lot of issues and other people have as well.

The issue with the touchscreen going wonky is caused by a corrupt PDS partition. There's a thread with a PDS image that you can fastboot over to your phone if you didn't back up your PDS partition.
Happened to me when I was jumping around from ROM to ROM constantly. Lost use of the capacitive buttons and the touchscreen was completely uncalibrated. To make your life easier, just don't sbf back and lose your software unlock. I was not able to fastboot to the PDS after sbf until I did the unlock again even though my phone was already unlocked.
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[Q] Do you care about your flash counter?

I keep seeing all these posts worrying about your flash counter. Seriously, who is actually gonna go out of their way to go into DL mode and actually look?

hkbladelawhk said:
I keep seeing all these posts worrying about your flash counter. Seriously, who is actually gonna go out of their way to go into DL mode and actually look?
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Repair depot technicians, that's who! LOL
It's funny actually, I don't even think I have a warranty on my international model, but I still haven't rooted my Note 4...

I think the bigger drawback of rooting is that OTA updates may no longer happen . Or am I confused there?

I've had two different rooted S3s replaced at Best Buy and they have never checked for anything.
EDIT: But I did revert back to the stock rom before going to BB.
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schlepprock said:
I've had two different rooted S3s replaced at Best Buy and they have never checked for anything.
EDIT: But I did revert back to the stock rom before going to BB.
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What was the reason you brought two S3's back? I'm sure if it was something that needed immediate replacement, they may not bother, but a "regular" repair might involve checking your software/counters.

I don't really care since mine is far away from Hong Kong, and I think it doesn't support warranty (not too sure). I won't wait even it does, pretty sure it will gonna take over a month to get it fix plus fees. And I always change a new phone after a year, so unless hardware failure, I'm happy to have it even it tripped the Knox~
P.S. I rooted my phone straight away after I unpack it Now counted 2 already~

Normally rooting and Xposed is the first thing I'd do but I havent done it yet as I'm nervous about the flash counter and losing OTA updates. Really need root though for Viper and Xposed.

EP2008 said:
What was the reason you brought two S3's back? I'm sure if it was something that needed immediate replacement, they may not bother, but a "regular" repair might involve checking your software/counters.
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The first time it was due to bad modem/radio( bad reception and dropping calls). The second time they couldn't have checked anyway, I destroyed it with a skid steer. But we've taken our kids S3s several times to be replaced and they didn't go into settings or anything like that so I know best Buy at least, doesn't know anything about checking for root.

On US carriers tripping Knox may be an issue with the 'Full-Price' upgrades (Next, etc.) -- That is how I picked up my N4, but if they look in detail, I would be on the hook for the remainder of the balance even though I had surrendered the phone back to them. There may be a work around / bypass eventually - there were in past phones that utilized counters. I would think there would be one if someone had the knowledge to dump everything and reload after a 'hard wipe'. They need to install them at the factory somehow. I am probably grasping at straws as my cooking experience was Windows Phones.