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Need some guidance/info.. Help!!!

I currently have a htc evo, but im thinking of getting a epic.. I just can't have a phone for 2 long..lol.. I had it since launch date.. Now I would like some info on how the dev support is over here such as the best roms and kernels and is it easy to root.. Could you please share your experience with the epic (roms/kernels) and pros and cons would be great.. Thanks..
By the way the gpu on the epic is what is really making me want to switch
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jayv1717 said:
I currently have a htc evo, but im thinking of getting a epic.. I just can't have a phone for 2 long..lol.. I had it since launch date.. Now I would like some info on how the dev support is over here such as the best roms and kernels and is it easy to root.. Could you please share your experience with the epic (roms/kernels) and pros and cons would be great.. Thanks..
By the way the gpu on the epic is what is really making me want to switch
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Rooting is extremely easy..I mean you can even use z4root app if you want to..otherwise we got 1 click root + clockwork..
As for development...its ok, no where as big as the EVO, but EVO has been out longer and people are more familiar with HTC..overall though its getting there..Cyanogen mod is in the works and some night builds are out..
We have a few roms to choose from, as for kernels..right now most of our custom kernels are for Eclair only..as we are waiting for them to release Froyo and with it comes source code (unlike HTC, Samsung releases source within a day or so)...
There are a few developments going on for building the kernel from scratch as well...
I think cyanogan team is working on making a universal kernal for all sgs devices so that we can use the other sgs stuff..(at least thats what I heard I might be mistaken)
Also we have a tool called Odin...which effectively makes our phones "almost" unbrickable...as its a tool used by Samsung themselves to flash roms..

Dev support is great. We should be getting cm6 rather soon as there are really just a few things left to fix and that will of course be the best rom. People running nightlies have been saying they're getting like 1400+ scores in quadrant so it'll be lightning fast.
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wait I forgot the epic isn't on froyo yet, but 1400+ on 2.1 is just crazy.. What setup are you guys using?
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That was just one report of someone running a nightly of cm6. I mean the raw power is there but we'll have to see.
Also I believe cm is being developed on dk28 which is a leaked froyo build
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I just put cm6 on my phone and got a 1693 in quadrant so ya. Cm6 is fast.
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I would be hesitant to move to the epic for the simple reason that samsung can't seem to get a timely update out and this limits what the developers can accomplish. At this point I wonder if samsung will release android 2.3 for the epic. With out an official release and the source code that goes with it, it is unlikely that we will see custom kernels for it.
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Just put a pure AOSP rom on my hero

K I was bored and decided to put gingerbread on my hero to see what it was like since we don't got it on the epic, and instead I found a "pure aosp" rom that the developer built from the ground up using straight google code...and it runs and looks beautiful and only has stock apps+spare parts and ran snappy on my hero runnin at 528mhz (I CBA to find an ovrclocked kernel a the time)
So I was wondering..........how hard would it b to build a pure aosp rom? Not cm...just pure aosp?
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A_Flying_Fox said:
K I was bored and decided to put gingerbread on my hero to see what it was like since we don't got it on the epic, and instead I found a "pure aosp" rom that the developer built from the ground up using straight google code...and it runs and looks beautiful and only has stock apps+spare parts and ran snappy on my hero runnin at 528mhz (I CBA to find an ovrclocked kernel a the time)
So I was wondering..........how hard would it b to build a pure aosp rom? Not cm...just pure aosp?
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It would be extremely easy to build a pure AOSP ROM for the Epic 4G.
Now, if you wanted it to work or even install, I couldn't tell you the answer.

The difficult part is reverse engineering the drivers that samsung hasn't given source for. That's what has taken them so long to port CyanogenMod. However, once they have most of the work done, it will be much easier to attempt a pure AOSP rom.

I should've mentioned it was apure 2.2 build...I didn't bother with gb because I realized I'm not getting it anytime soon so I didn't wanna tease myself...but now I'm jealous of straight up pure 2.2
The hero only had 2.1 drivers to work with and the dev built it, so shouldn't it be feasible with the epic 2.1 drivers/sauce given a devoted dev?
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I'm pretty sure there's a ROM that is a pure AOSP...I want to say the Truly Epic ROM but I'm not sure...(ill edit the post for confirmation). Also, just put a request for a FroYo theme in the themes & apps section to see if you can get something at least similar
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A_Flying_Fox said:
I should've mentioned it was apure 2.2 build...I didn't bother with gb because I realized I'm not getting it anytime soon so I didn't wanna tease myself...but now I'm jealous of straight up pure 2.2
The hero only had 2.1 drivers to work with and the dev built it, so shouldn't it be feasible with the epic 2.1 drivers/sauce given a devoted dev?
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They did it, but it took a while. The CM people are giving us a start towards AOSP, but it will take a while. The phone has only been out for 5 months.

5months is a long time when it comes to technological innovations....or at least the ones they release to the public.

acer1096xxx said:
I'm pretty sure there's a ROM that is a pure AOSP...I want to say the Truly Epic ROM but I'm not sure...(ill edit the post for confirmation). Also, just put a request for a FroYo theme in the themes & apps section to see if you can get something at least similar
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There are no roms that are pure aosp for the epic the closest thing we have is CM.I was working on a pure aosp build for a bit maybe I will pick it up again soon we'll see.

[q] update to 2.3 or 3.0

My question is when and if t mobile will roll out the update to either 2.3 or 3.0..i want the stock update..any help?:d

3.0 is not for phones.
2.3 should come in a couple months.
I'm not too sure what you're asking.

Like he said, he wants to know when or if HTC/Tmo will roll out the next update. To which the answer is a fat question mark. There are rumors about Q2 2011 but who knows. Just be thankful you are not using a Samsung device
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I HAVE EARD THAT THEY WILL HAVE 3.0 FOR PHONES..I HAVE THE G2 ..IT CAME WITH 2.2 BUT I WANT ALL I CAN GET FOR IT..

cowboyintx said:
I HAVE EARD THAT THEY WILL HAVE 3.0 FOR PHONES..I HAVE THE G2 ..IT CAME WITH 2.2 BUT I WANT ALL I CAN GET FOR IT..
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3.0 is being worked on for phones. At this point the phone version of 3.0 is not even finished with development yet, so we're going to need to wait until that's done to get it. It'll come in a few months, only time will tell exactly when.

Gwanatu said:
3.0 is being worked on for phones. At this point the phone version of 3.0 is not even finished with development yet, so we're going to need to wait until that's done to get it. It'll come in a few months, only time will tell exactly when.
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Wait what? Last I heard (last week) Google said they will not be releasing the source code - except to official major manufacturers (Samsung and HTC I believe). Part of the agreement between them is that those companies are NOT to put it on a phone unless given specific permission by Google. 3.0 is the windows/iOS version of Android. They did it for a reason, so that manufacturers wouldn't rape such a well designed os by putting their own crap on it, different UI's and launchers, and try to put it on an underpowered device.
Think about it. Some fanboy or average Joe sees 3.0 running on a base model Samsung and prior to that was considering getting an Android phone. Now they won't want to and as such, will inform everyone else (family and friends) about how much of a piece of sh!t is was. That multiplies over and over until you have thousands that think the same thing though never having actually messed with Android themselves. Marketing 050, simple and basic concept. If we see 3.0 on a phone - everyone get it because that will be the device of the year and will stay that way for a long time.

Never probably... HoneyComb is not meant for mobile phones... Google came clean just a few days ago that they are working on a new version which is capable of running on both, mobile and tablet... but not just ready yet... besides, HoneyComb itself is not 100% yet...
May be IceCream will do it...
Wait and watch... Fingers crossed...

Why would you want a stock update?
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creativedevil said:
Never probably... HoneyComb is not meant for mobile phones... Google came clean just a few days ago that they are working on a new version which is capable of running on both, mobile and tablet... but not just ready yet... besides, HoneyComb itself is not 100% yet...
May be IceCream will do it...
Wait and watch... Fingers crossed...
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Yeah that's what I read too. "... the 'I' series will be the next udate to run on mobile phones". Something to that effect is what was said.
tackleberry said:
Why would you want a stock update?
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Some people prefer stock. That's the good thing about Android - there's a flavor for everyone.

Well stock update = root gone tho right? Not saying stock is, say horrid....but it does mean horrid battery life, bloatware, etc. And when I mean stock I mean carrier stock update.
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tackleberry said:
Why would you want a stock update?
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CM7 Nightly is pretty much stock update in my opinion, unless stock means the ones directly come from manufactures, not from google. Opting for stock is a very personal preference and I prefer stock because I am not so much of a fan of manufacture skins on top of vanilla experience. Still... again, it is a personal opinion.
tackleberry said:
Well stock update = root gone tho right? Not saying stock is, say horrid....but it does mean horrid battery life, bloatware, etc. And when I mean stock I mean carrier stock update.
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Root gone, but thanks to the large dev community support for HTC devices out there, it is hardly going to be a pain. As and when new version arrives, there will be a lot of devs working on it right away... Am I right Devs???
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Like he said, he wants to know when or if HTC/Tmo will roll out the next update. To which the answer is a fat question mark. There are rumors about Q2 2011 but who knows. Just be thankful you are not using a Samsung device
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True. Samsung update timing is horrible.

haha, I honestly don't now, but I've been with T-Mo since my G1, which was around a year and a half ago, then I got the T-Mo G2 and I've always had such a bad time waiting for OTA updates. I'm not so patient. :S But well, it'll most likely be aired soon.

T-Mobile g2 customers don't count on 3.0 if At&t gets T-Mobile... am sure we will get 2.3
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I want the stock rom..i had an hd2 and was running 2.2 on it but wasnt perfect..i love the g2 as is just want 2.3 on it:d

tackleberry said:
Why would you want a stock update?
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Why? There are tons of reasons why I personally would want it.... here's a few:
-Fully gingerbread compatible radio to end all these gps/data problems, and probably bring some battery improovements
-NEWER KERNEL! Am I the only one that would love to be on 2.6.37 or at least 2.6.35? I mean .32 is great and all but I want more!
-newer drivers (i.e. the radio update for the nexus allowed better quality video recording
I have hopes that tmobile will be able to get out an update by summer. Don't quote me on that though.

I am willing to bet if att gets tmo then that will be it for all previous phones. They will look to the future. I am also willing to bet that stock android phones(nexus series) and almost stock like the g2 will be done for. Most of the carriers favor the majority who want pretty animations and screens. They don't care about people who want fast stable phones that do what they need to do and get right to the point. I cannot recall a phone put out by another carrier in the usa that has a stock or almost stock android phone. Tmo is the only one I think of.
That being said I believe everything pretty much from here on out will have some flavor running on top. Makes me sad. Left verizon because tmo stayed true to android for the most part. I fear those days are over. I'm already thinking of an exit strategy and I've only been a customer of tmo for a month.
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Stop spreading around the misconception that the G2 runs stock android, it does NOT. Just because it looks stock doesn't mean it is. The TMO/ATT merger will not be finalized until mid next year. Before then the G2 will definately receive at least one major OS update. And what about the OG droid? That was the first phone with stock 2.0. And as long as google keeps making android, there will always be a developer phone.
Edit: Woah! Didn't check the dev section til now! A gingerbread sense wwe ruu was just leaked

mejorguille said:
Why? There are tons of reasons why I personally would want it.... here's a few:
-Fully gingerbread compatible radio to end all these gps/data problems, and probably bring some battery improovements
-NEWER KERNEL! Am I the only one that would love to be on 2.6.37 or at least 2.6.35? I mean .32 is great and all but I want more!
-newer drivers (i.e. the radio update for the nexus allowed better quality video recording
I have hopes that tmobile will be able to get out an update by summer. Don't quote me on that though.
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Not to knock you but a carrier sent stock update means bloatware, poor battery life. Im running cm7 night 31 and gps works just fine. Remember, devs will rip it apart and fix all the crap the carrier release messed up anyways. Until i cant root a device or get rid of carrier shipped roms ill always rom it up and never take a carrier shipped rom. Im sick of wireless carriers putting their garbage on my phone. If i want it, ill download it.
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Lol I guess I should have explained myself better, I meant I wanted everything extracted from it to benefit other builds like CM. I preordered my G2 and had it since sep. 29, and I experienced the whole drama about unlocking the eMMC. I absolutely hate the stock rom lol and I don't have a car so I never really cared about GPS, I've just seen people complaining. My GPS has worked on every nightly I've tried it on, maybe I'm just lucky lol.

GPS seems to work fine for G2's on CM...it has worked for me on everything 6.1+. Its the desire z users that are having most of the issues.
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Desire Z Official ICS update?

Will the htc desire z get an ics update? The desire hd is gonna get it, so on guessing that the desire z will get one as well?

It was once on HTC update list, but disappeared...
and I don't think it will back on list... they got enough work on new devices...

sebastianlow said:
Will the htc desire z get an ics update? The desire hd is gonna get it, so on guessing that the desire z will get one as well?
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If you want ICS there is a rom (i assume you are rooted) out there called Virtuous Quattro. Its a full AOSP build of ICS ported to the G2/Desire Z
Here is the developers website:
http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/quattro.html
I definitely recommend it. Its kinda new, but vary stable. Especially when using the Nova Launcher.
Hope this helps

cheetodude24 said:
If you want ICS there is a rom (i assume you are rooted) out there called Virtuous Quattro. Its a full AOSP build of ICS ported to the G2/Desire Z
Here is the developers website:
http://www.virtuousrom.com/p/quattro.html
I definitely recommend it. Its kinda new, but vary stable. Especially when using the Nova Launcher.
Hope this helps
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Thats a modified rom, With Quatro features added in.
If you want a stock feel just ask HTC for it http://www.htc.com/us/about/contact-by-email

tarroyo said:
Thats a modified rom, With Quatro features added in.
If you want a stock feel just ask HTC for it http://www.htc.com/us/about/contact-by-email
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Sent them one re: DZ and Flyer.

Hopefully if we don't get an official one, someone will port the Runnymead ICS. I've tried Quattro but to be honest, I quite like sense...
The post on the front page of XDA states Desire Z is on the "expected but not officially announced"

There's also the Andromadus dev team, building what might be the start of CM9 for the Desire Z/G2.
I'm running their Alpha 11 and it's been stable and well-behaved so far.

Its capable of running it that's for sure. But I highly doubt it will be pushed to our devices. It would be nice as it would near complete the custom roms problems they are having. Since HTC doesn't want to give up things like the camera to help move it along.

Sense+ICS may be too much for the ram in our phones, but there is no reason why the G2 shouldn't get an update, 512mb of ram is plenty for stock ICS
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C.Flat said:
Sense+ICS may be too much for the ram in our phones, but there is no reason why the G2 shouldn't get an update, 512mb of ram is plenty for stock ICS
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Sure there is, the G2 has been end of lifed and has already received a major OS update. Not to mention the G2 isn't totally stock (if you tear the OS apart and look).
We will get our ICS, just in the form of CM9.

i don't think we wil get an official ics update from htc, and onestly, i don't want it, the last official update really suck compared to the unofficial roms in the dev section...
the question is...when we get official and fully working cm9 rom?

dibi91 said:
i don't think we wil get an official ics update from htc, and onestly, i don't want it, the last official update really suck compared to the unofficial roms in the dev section...
the question is...when we get official and fully working cm9 rom?
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90% of us don't want the update for a modded rom lol! We just want it to rip out the drivers so that stuff like CM9 will actually work properly. It looks like one our cousin phones (Desire HD & S) will be getting the update so we should be okay eventually as far as proper drivers go.

Getting Bored with My G2

I've owned my G2 since it's been out, and I have to say that I'm starting to get bored with it. I have it rooted and I've flashed just about every ROM that's been released for it. Sadly, all the recent ROM development is for ICS, and most of those are in alpha/beta stages. I need something new, fresh and is close to 100% bug-free as possible. I've played with most of the Sense based ROMs, MIUI, and CM7 creations, but my primary DD has been CM7.1 Stable.
Just thought I'd share my thoughts here, see if I'm not alone in this, and what others have done to get out of this rut.

What phone are you thinking of switching to?

kingclo615 said:
What phone are you thinking of switching to?
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My contract won't expire for about a year, and I'll more than likely be leaving TMO as their service is horrible in my new place. That's an issue that really isn't tolerable at all, but my boredom comes from the decline in ROM development for this kick ass phone. Sure, it's an older phone, but it's still a great phone that other phones can't compete with. Also, I tried ICS and I honestly wasn't all that impressed with it. I still enjoyed running Froyo and love Gingerbread, and wish I had the skills/talent to develop updated/enhanced flavors of Sense/AOSP/MIUI based ROMs. There's many to choose out there, but as I said so many of them are in alpha/beta stages with the prevalent "camera not working" bug.
The purpose of this thread was more so to see what ROMs people were using as their DDs, but based on your question I'd be interested to hear what G2 owners have upgraded their phones to as well. I love my G2 and will be sad to part ways with it when that day comes.

I Recomand HTC one x It's the best phone I've ever .

stian230 said:
I Recomand HTC one x It's the best phone I've ever .
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That's only available for AT&T, correct? Which HTC One phone is coming out for TMO?

dustrho said:
That's only available for AT&T, correct? Which HTC One phone is coming out for TMO?
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Google was my friend, and the S is coming out for TMO and X for AT&T.

I'm getting equally bored. My contract isn't up till next jan but I'm thinking of trading in for an asus padfone. This will also replace my asus transformer. I enjoy the keyboard on the DZ but I just feel there is a drop in gingerbread development and ICS is in need of proper drivers. Maybe things will change when the DHD get official update.
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Google was my friend, and the S is coming out for TMO and X for AT&T.
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Unconfirmed rumors indicate the X may be coming to T-Mobile (in addition to the S), and also coming to Sprint as the "EVO One" of "EVO HD".

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I Recomand HTC one x It's the best phone I've ever .
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The fact that the HTC One S has no micro sd card slot is a def deal breaker for me. I've been using miui as my daily driver. I would love to see a smooth ics miui rom released

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I've been using miui as my daily driver. I would love to see a smooth ics miui rom released
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Regardless of speed, miuiv4 doesn't have the same feel for me as gingerbread based. It just lacks the user friendly experience.
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I've been using gb miui for nearly the time I've had this phone (about 6 months). I've played with the HTC one x and galaxy note and without custom roms I don't think they are any smoother in general interface than what I have (overclock to 1.5 helps). However you are right, I've also tried nearly every rom out there and after a few hours or days running an ics rom I always come back to miui because it's bug free and fast.
Development has slowed lately, probably because they've run out of things to improve, but there are a few ics development teams improving their roms on a weekly basis so in a couple of months I'd hope for a near perfect ics version.
Saying that I'll be getting a galaxy note in a few days because I still want something new and different.
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G2 is life
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I am also extremely interested in finding out which the roms the community is using as their daily rom. Like OP I have flashed most of the roms and now am just looking for the most stable rom.

ILWT all the way!
I first flashed it in February and have come back to it every time I've flashed another ROM. That's more that can be said of any other ROM I've had.
Supersmooth performance, stable and everything works.
In regards to the phone itself; this is the first phone I've ever had where I'm actually reluctant to get another because I don't want to let it go. I bought my DZ about 14 months ago. I'm not bound to any contract so that is not why I keep it around. I'm guessing it must be true love

vicmora5 said:
I am also extremely interested in finding out which the roms the community is using as their daily rom. Like OP I have flashed most of the roms and now am just looking for the most stable rom.
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I've tried them all, literally, and I keep coming back to CM 7.1.0 Stable with it OC'd at 1200 MHz. I don't believe I've ever experienced an issue, except for the fact that TMO coverage in my area sucks ass.

vicmora5 said:
I am also extremely interested in finding out which the roms the community is using as their daily rom. Like OP I have flashed most of the roms and now am just looking for the most stable rom.
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Rocking ILWT. It's one of the best CM7 ROM's around, and my personal favourite. I also find myself coming back to it. =]

I just flashed ILWT and I'm impressed with it, although it's not very different than CM7. I do like the Aroma installer, very nice touch.

G lite all the way baby

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I am using Andromadus Audacity b2 as daily driver and it is very smooth after i understood that I should use 4ext superwipe not 3ext...