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Need some guidance/info.. Help!!!

I currently have a htc evo, but im thinking of getting a epic.. I just can't have a phone for 2 long..lol.. I had it since launch date.. Now I would like some info on how the dev support is over here such as the best roms and kernels and is it easy to root.. Could you please share your experience with the epic (roms/kernels) and pros and cons would be great.. Thanks..
By the way the gpu on the epic is what is really making me want to switch
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jayv1717 said:
I currently have a htc evo, but im thinking of getting a epic.. I just can't have a phone for 2 long..lol.. I had it since launch date.. Now I would like some info on how the dev support is over here such as the best roms and kernels and is it easy to root.. Could you please share your experience with the epic (roms/kernels) and pros and cons would be great.. Thanks..
By the way the gpu on the epic is what is really making me want to switch
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Rooting is extremely easy..I mean you can even use z4root app if you want to..otherwise we got 1 click root + clockwork..
As for development...its ok, no where as big as the EVO, but EVO has been out longer and people are more familiar with HTC..overall though its getting there..Cyanogen mod is in the works and some night builds are out..
We have a few roms to choose from, as for kernels..right now most of our custom kernels are for Eclair only..as we are waiting for them to release Froyo and with it comes source code (unlike HTC, Samsung releases source within a day or so)...
There are a few developments going on for building the kernel from scratch as well...
I think cyanogan team is working on making a universal kernal for all sgs devices so that we can use the other sgs stuff..(at least thats what I heard I might be mistaken)
Also we have a tool called Odin...which effectively makes our phones "almost" unbrickable...as its a tool used by Samsung themselves to flash roms..

Dev support is great. We should be getting cm6 rather soon as there are really just a few things left to fix and that will of course be the best rom. People running nightlies have been saying they're getting like 1400+ scores in quadrant so it'll be lightning fast.
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wait I forgot the epic isn't on froyo yet, but 1400+ on 2.1 is just crazy.. What setup are you guys using?
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That was just one report of someone running a nightly of cm6. I mean the raw power is there but we'll have to see.
Also I believe cm is being developed on dk28 which is a leaked froyo build
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I just put cm6 on my phone and got a 1693 in quadrant so ya. Cm6 is fast.
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I would be hesitant to move to the epic for the simple reason that samsung can't seem to get a timely update out and this limits what the developers can accomplish. At this point I wonder if samsung will release android 2.3 for the epic. With out an official release and the source code that goes with it, it is unlikely that we will see custom kernels for it.
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[Q] gingerbread?

has anyone heard any more speculation on what phones are gonna get gingerbread?

gingerbread is being skipped and is going to be 2.4 instead of 2.3. Still named gingerbread though. This is what I heard a few weeks back. It makes sense because the Nexus S is full of problems and it's mostly on the software side. Gingerbread is nothing but a themed froyo.

There are a lot less core differences between 2.2 and 2.3 than there were between 2.1 and 2.2. I would think the manufacturers would have an easier time upgrading them and the crapware on it.

Jjday7 said:
gingerbread is being skipped and is going to be 2.4 instead of 2.3. Still named gingerbread though. This is what I heard a few weeks back. It makes sense because the Nexus S is full of problems and it's mostly on the software side. Gingerbread is nothing but a themed froyo.
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Incorrect. There are other phones getting Android 2.3 besides the Nexus S; the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play is, for example. Gingerbread has made quite a few changes to the underlying code & add many nice APIs for app developers to it.

teharchitekt said:
Incorrect. There are other phones getting Android 2.3 besides the Nexus S; the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play is, for example. Gingerbread has made quite a few changes to the underlying code & add many nice APIs for app developers to it.
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True, but, don't know if you noticed that the Nexus One has yet to get an OTA Gingerbread OTA. There's a reason for that. The random rebooting issue could be to blame - but Google for Froyo (such a huge, huge change from 2.1 Eclair) pushed it out to Nexus One users like 2 weeks after announcing it. Huge. Quick.
Gingerbread will probably not come to existing devices. 2.4 (whether it is Ice Cream Sandwich or Gingerbread - who knows/cares) will probably be pushed out first. Don't expect any incremental updates to any existing device yet.
The reason the Xperia Play has 2.3 is because it's out in the AOSP and Sony Ericsson is just choosing to deploy the 2.3 code instead of 2.2. They have the right timeframe and want their device to appeal to the hardcore geeks.
Anyhow, no Gingerbread - especially not for the EVO 4G Shift anytime soon.

I'm hoping for updates to the Shift, i just got it, but i hate knowing there is a newer version somewhere lol

I hate knowing that I got gingerbread working on a 4 year old Windows Mobile phone (HTC Touch/Vogue) and yet it's not officially available for the Evo Shift. I may go AOSP in the future.
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NuAngel said:
I hate knowing that I got gingerbread working on a 4 year old Windows Mobile phone (HTC Touch/Vogue) and yet it's not officially available for the Evo Shift. I may go AOSP in the future.
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AOSP is where it's at.
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Edit: man I'm drunk. That took forever to type.

Noob question: What exactly is aosp and are there any pros as far as roms go?
Sent from my Evo Shift.

Aosp is android open source project, check out the cyanogen/evervolv roms and that's what aosp is

Waht is AOSP
bobtsunam said:
Noob question: What exactly is aosp and are there any pros as far as roms go?
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AOSP is default open source Android. Every manufacturer puts on their own overlay for HTC it is Sense and Motorola is Moto Blur. When you put an AOSP ROM on your phone it will be default android which is normally more efficient and more bare bones. For instance when you might not have all the functionality that you had with your stock setup. Personally I like how in Sense when I have my Google contacts set up in groups Sense se that and carries those groups over to my phone. When I put the evervolve or CM7 on my phone to test it out I lost that.
I don't know all the things that are different with an AOSP ROM but here are the things I have seen:
Contacts
Messaging app
Home Screen
Now I know there are more programs that are operate in the background that are included (just run titanium backup and look at all the ones that start with HTC) but I don't know what they do for the most part.
Also AOSP stands for Android Open Source Project.

I think I'll wait for a stable sense ROM to try gingerbread. I'm pretty sure I tried a bare bones ROM when I rooted my cliq and didn't like it. Definitely like having everything sync'd like contacts and such. Has anyone come up with something spectacular for a modded or themed stock ROM? Guess I could just go look...
Thanks everyone for the help. Really appreciate it.
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Gingerrrbrreeaddddd??

Hi all. I was just wondering if anyone has heard or knows about the "official" release date for gingerbread. Thanks in advance.
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Herd it was summer time which is nice to think bout but gives us a 90 day period we could be lookin at based on wut we consider 'summer'
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sabeyta said:
Herd it was summer time which is nice to think bout but gives us a 90 day period we could be lookin at based on wut we consider 'summer'
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Same I also heard it was summer
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Q2 of 2011.
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Damn it. Lol I wish it was before summer. No one wants to stay inside playing on their fresh ass g2
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Just run CM7 in the mean time. There are also bone stock gingerbread roms around.

What ones? I know of no totally aosp gingerbread for g2.
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There's not one single pure stock AOSP Gingerbread based ROM for the G2. Period. Every single one of them is built off CM7, which has lots of bugs. If you don't believe me about the bugs, check them out on their site here...
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/list
There's currently 305 issues with CM7, which blows my mind. I've always loved the CM ROMs for my MyTouch3G, MyTouch4G, and 6.1.1 for the G2. However, CM7 has too many bugs for me to use as a daily driver. I prefer running either Sense or Froyo ROMs on my phone, but once the official Gingerbread source code is released and used by devs I'll probably hop on that in a second.

I obviously don't want a gingerbread based rom, especially since I asked when the official gingerbread would be released. Thanks though.
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dustrho said:
There's not one single pure stock AOSP Gingerbread based ROM for the G2. Period. Every single one of them is built off CM7, which has lots of bugs. If you don't believe me about the bugs, check them out on their site here...
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/list
There's currently 305 issues with CM7, which blows my mind. I've always loved the CM ROMs for my MyTouch3G, MyTouch4G, and 6.1.1 for the G2. However, CM7 has too many bugs for me to use as a daily driver. I prefer running either Sense or Froyo ROMs on my phone, but once the official Gingerbread source code is released and used by devs I'll probably hop on that in a second.
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strange, I don't experience a single issue with CM7 or CM7 based roms.

Thugnificent69 said:
strange, I don't experience a single issue with CM7 or CM7 based roms.
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The only issues I ever experienced was video playback in portrait mode (which I believe has been fixed now) and the Gmail marginal issue (which is STILL broken). Other than that, it's been good to me. But, because I use Gmail religiously throughout the day, I can't use it as my daily driver.

xboarder56's stock gingerbread rom is pretty awesome. it is very stable and has enough mods that you can really tweak your phone, also it is crazy fast and he updates regularly.

On a side note since it's not really thread worthy, If I'm running stock rooted de-odexed Rom, will I be able to just upgrade to Gingerbread as if I wasn't rooted. I mean would I be able to just upgrade to it with no problems.

Not sure what"s exactly meaning of "Official", from T-mobile ? There are so many GingerBread ROM, i vapourily see a office ROM publish in forum, not quite sure.

For most devices it comes stock or has an update released. If you have a rooted device, and want it, download "ROM Manager" and download "CyanogenMod 7.0.0" and this will not give you 2.3.2. but it will give you 2.3.3! But if you want to get it through, Android Via OTA Upadate, you will need to wait til late June 2011.

If it makes anyone feel better the euro galaxy S has an official release + published kernel source, looks like moto is also rolling out GB for it's X's.

For the newly released devices it comes stock, if you want it, Via OTA Android Update, for the T-Mobile G2 you will need to wait til late June 2011. If your device is rooted and you want Gingerbread you will need to download ROM Mangaer and Flash the CyanogenMod 7.0.0 ROM.

[Poll] Whats your favorite os and why?

So we have been blessed with android for almost 3 years now. Out of all the different treats Google has cooked up for us which one has been your favorite and why? For me its kind of a hard question to answer straight forward. A few of you may say this question seems irrelevant but I have a feeling some of the answers may surprise you.
Cupcake/doughnut was my first experience and brought us by far the best battery life.
Eclair kind of began to bring some much needed aesthetics to android.
Froyo gave us the glorious flash!!!!
Gingerbread.... still trying to figure out the point of that update, or at least why its a different version name
Honeycomb could have been the ****, but imho was rushed out way to soon.​

I really liked eclair on the Droid

wheres the option for windows mobile. haha just kidding

Froyo
I started with Froyo as my first Android OS and I loved it coming from Blackberry. Well since GB came out I figured I would give it a try since i've heard alot of good things about it... I've tried it a couple of times now but in the end I always go back to Froyo (mysense).. I know alot of people say it's heavy and slow but the setup I've got thanks to the Royal team it seems no slower than any GB rom i've tried... I like GB ok, if i do decide to stick with GB as my daily driver it will probably be Royal Ginger I really like what they've done with that one...

I have to say that my favorite variant of Android is 2.3 AOSP. B L A Z I N G fast and really slim. Just gets the job done without all of the fluff and puff that others bring.
iOS is nice. I own an iPod Touch. But for a daily driver i cannot live without my Android.

I switched from blackberry and might switch back if they ever make a powerhouse phone withstand he big form factor....the bold touch that should be out soon might be it....I love android....but I love my bold's keyboard even more
MT4G + Royal MIUI + Faux's BFS LV kernel

Eclair was a HUGE improvement over 1.x. Froyo was a big improvement over Eclair. Gingerbread didn't bring significant improvements over Froyo for me that are worth dumping stable Froyo pure Sense (DHD) for funky Gingerbread Sense ports with problems. I want to be able to record videos. So, I guess it's Froyo for me.

Froyo runs the best on my phone

I like stock Froyo on the Droid Incredible 2

I had installed gingerbread on my myTouch 4G and now I have the G2x, and I must say, I miss gingerbread!

I have faux123's aosp gingerbread, its my daily driver as its fast and bloat free.
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I Really Like Gingerbread but we'll see about Ice Cream Sandwich

gbondoc said:
I Really Like Gingerbread but we'll see about Ice Cream Sandwich
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Froyo was nice, a huge update from eclair, but I like the look of gingerbread.
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cnote74 said:
I have faux123's aosp gingerbread, its my daily driver as its fast and bloat free.
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+ 1 here, CM Nexus Gingerbread by faux123 is a great clean rom.

Getting Bored with My G2

I've owned my G2 since it's been out, and I have to say that I'm starting to get bored with it. I have it rooted and I've flashed just about every ROM that's been released for it. Sadly, all the recent ROM development is for ICS, and most of those are in alpha/beta stages. I need something new, fresh and is close to 100% bug-free as possible. I've played with most of the Sense based ROMs, MIUI, and CM7 creations, but my primary DD has been CM7.1 Stable.
Just thought I'd share my thoughts here, see if I'm not alone in this, and what others have done to get out of this rut.

What phone are you thinking of switching to?

kingclo615 said:
What phone are you thinking of switching to?
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My contract won't expire for about a year, and I'll more than likely be leaving TMO as their service is horrible in my new place. That's an issue that really isn't tolerable at all, but my boredom comes from the decline in ROM development for this kick ass phone. Sure, it's an older phone, but it's still a great phone that other phones can't compete with. Also, I tried ICS and I honestly wasn't all that impressed with it. I still enjoyed running Froyo and love Gingerbread, and wish I had the skills/talent to develop updated/enhanced flavors of Sense/AOSP/MIUI based ROMs. There's many to choose out there, but as I said so many of them are in alpha/beta stages with the prevalent "camera not working" bug.
The purpose of this thread was more so to see what ROMs people were using as their DDs, but based on your question I'd be interested to hear what G2 owners have upgraded their phones to as well. I love my G2 and will be sad to part ways with it when that day comes.

I Recomand HTC one x It's the best phone I've ever .

stian230 said:
I Recomand HTC one x It's the best phone I've ever .
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That's only available for AT&T, correct? Which HTC One phone is coming out for TMO?

dustrho said:
That's only available for AT&T, correct? Which HTC One phone is coming out for TMO?
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Google was my friend, and the S is coming out for TMO and X for AT&T.

I'm getting equally bored. My contract isn't up till next jan but I'm thinking of trading in for an asus padfone. This will also replace my asus transformer. I enjoy the keyboard on the DZ but I just feel there is a drop in gingerbread development and ICS is in need of proper drivers. Maybe things will change when the DHD get official update.
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dustrho said:
Google was my friend, and the S is coming out for TMO and X for AT&T.
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Unconfirmed rumors indicate the X may be coming to T-Mobile (in addition to the S), and also coming to Sprint as the "EVO One" of "EVO HD".

stian230 said:
I Recomand HTC one x It's the best phone I've ever .
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The fact that the HTC One S has no micro sd card slot is a def deal breaker for me. I've been using miui as my daily driver. I would love to see a smooth ics miui rom released

kingclo615 said:
I've been using miui as my daily driver. I would love to see a smooth ics miui rom released
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Regardless of speed, miuiv4 doesn't have the same feel for me as gingerbread based. It just lacks the user friendly experience.
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I've been using gb miui for nearly the time I've had this phone (about 6 months). I've played with the HTC one x and galaxy note and without custom roms I don't think they are any smoother in general interface than what I have (overclock to 1.5 helps). However you are right, I've also tried nearly every rom out there and after a few hours or days running an ics rom I always come back to miui because it's bug free and fast.
Development has slowed lately, probably because they've run out of things to improve, but there are a few ics development teams improving their roms on a weekly basis so in a couple of months I'd hope for a near perfect ics version.
Saying that I'll be getting a galaxy note in a few days because I still want something new and different.
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G2 is life
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I am also extremely interested in finding out which the roms the community is using as their daily rom. Like OP I have flashed most of the roms and now am just looking for the most stable rom.

ILWT all the way!
I first flashed it in February and have come back to it every time I've flashed another ROM. That's more that can be said of any other ROM I've had.
Supersmooth performance, stable and everything works.
In regards to the phone itself; this is the first phone I've ever had where I'm actually reluctant to get another because I don't want to let it go. I bought my DZ about 14 months ago. I'm not bound to any contract so that is not why I keep it around. I'm guessing it must be true love

vicmora5 said:
I am also extremely interested in finding out which the roms the community is using as their daily rom. Like OP I have flashed most of the roms and now am just looking for the most stable rom.
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I've tried them all, literally, and I keep coming back to CM 7.1.0 Stable with it OC'd at 1200 MHz. I don't believe I've ever experienced an issue, except for the fact that TMO coverage in my area sucks ass.

vicmora5 said:
I am also extremely interested in finding out which the roms the community is using as their daily rom. Like OP I have flashed most of the roms and now am just looking for the most stable rom.
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Rocking ILWT. It's one of the best CM7 ROM's around, and my personal favourite. I also find myself coming back to it. =]

I just flashed ILWT and I'm impressed with it, although it's not very different than CM7. I do like the Aroma installer, very nice touch.

G lite all the way baby

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I am using Andromadus Audacity b2 as daily driver and it is very smooth after i understood that I should use 4ext superwipe not 3ext...