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official froyo on vibrant on dec 10!

http://mobilesyrup.com/2010/12/08/bell-samsung-galaxy-s-vibrant-upgrade-to-os-2-2-froyo-coming-december-10th/
yep, finally here, maybe its jl1, but my guess its an unleaked firmware.

NOt the same phone
Bell/Canada and they use i9000 for their vibrant
I already have 2.2 and will probably be running on 2.3 by end of next week

(sigh)....same ****......different toilet...

OP might be on Bell is is excited that he'll be getting 2.2 on his own version of the Vibrant.

I saw today that the droid x is getting a second update to 2.2.1 and the phones came out on the same day. Samsung may be slow with updates but I think t mobile makes it much worse. I expect an update this month but tell me why every other phone gets update love and we dont.
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khulsey said:
I saw today that the droid x is getting a second update to 2.2.1 and the phones came out on the same day. Samsung may be slow with updates but I think t mobile makes it much worse. I expect an update this month but tell me why every other phone gets update love and we dont.
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Popularity/sales. There's articles on it. Look at the popularity of the Evo and compare it to the updates they get all the time. Makes sense. My question is...why are you same idiots on a forum for development *****ing about stock ota updates. If you don't mod your phone, what are you wasting your time here for? Just flash a froyo ROM and shutup. If you've been reading anything, you'd know that the official froyo will most likely not offer anything more than the stuff the devs have out right now, the leaked builds are pretty much what we'll be seeing from T-Mobile.

Some people want official/supported ROMs for their contract phones.
If you don't like it you can stop responding and just STFU.
Those third-party ROMs all have issues and they are notorious for having worse battery life and stability than stock ROMs.
People like me don't wanna touch **** like that.

joe.kerwin said:
Popularity/sales. There's articles on it. Look at the popularity of the Evo and compare it to the updates they get all the time. Makes sense. My question is...why are you same idiots on a forum for development *****ing about stock ota updates. If you don't mod your phone, what are you wasting your time here for? Just flash a froyo ROM and shutup. If you've been reading anything, you'd know that the official froyo will most likely not offer anything more than the stuff the devs have out right now, the leaked builds are pretty much what we'll be seeing from T-Mobile.
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I love the custom ROMS, and the biggest no-go for me is the loss of Thinkfree Office that comes free with the stock ROM, which I use frequently for work. Of course, there is a lot of crapware that I didn't miss, but when I realized that I lost that program and would have to pay to get it on a custom ROM, that was a dealbreaker. Also, I get tired of having to reconfigure my apps, address book, and contact linking every time I flashed my phone.

Time to go work on your reading comprehension.

N8ter said:
Some people want official/supported ROMs for their contract phones.
If you don't like it you can stop responding and just STFU.
Those third-party ROMs all have issues and they are notorious for having worse battery life and stability than stock ROMs.
People like me don't wanna touch **** like that.
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Yeah so far the best battery life are the Official leaked roms, any third party rom are just less stable and waste more battery.
After trying all the custom roms for the vibrant i just had to go back to the official, sadly that wasn't the case for N1.

The custom roms are nice but I like running the stock roms and loading themes from here on top of them. But if t mobile takes their sweet ass time with 2.3 then I will be running custom.
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N8ter said:
Some people want official/supported ROMs for their contract phones.
If you don't like it you can stop responding and just STFU.
Those third-party ROMs all have issues and they are notorious for having worse battery life and stability than stock ROMs.
People like me don't wanna touch **** like that.
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You're very uniformed, the third party roms for vibrant are way more stable and bug free compared to the samsung garbage. Their programmers are terrible.

I've noticed that a lot of the bugs that come with custom roms are caused by flashing multiple roms one after another without a trip to Odin. I believe that ghosts of old roms are the reason there are huge inconsistencies in the bugs people report. I rarely have issues with TW and Eugene builds now that I revert to JFD with a repartition between flashes. Most of the issues that I do run into are caused by flaws in the leak itself (blurry mms, wifi calling app). Titanium restoring system settings, especially when moving between roms based off of different leaks, is another culprit. The main reason for the battery drains is the I9000 kernel. Once source gets dropped, kernels will be built off proper source and battery life should get better and there should be less issues. Just my 0.02. To each his own, but I still prefer the custom roms and I'm waiting for the actual update so Samsung finally has to release their source.
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Sdobron said:
You're very uniformed, the third party roms for vibrant are way more stable and bug free compared to the samsung garbage. Their programmers are terrible.
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First of all it "uninformed" not "uniformed" and these third party roms ARE NOT bug free. I have yet to find a rom where the MMS was bug free which is unbelievable to me. These developers can work magic on porting over all types of roms to these phone that technically shouldn't work on them but they can't make MMS work flawlessly. MMS is an important feature I need to work perfectly and that's one feature that has never worked (flawlessly) on any rom or any phone I have ever had. (My G1, Nexus, Vibrant, or MT4G). So now I always root my phones but keep them stock and just theme them to my liking.

Sdobron said:
You're very uniformed, the third party roms for vibrant are way more stable and bug free compared to the samsung garbage. Their programmers are terrible.
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Notwithstanding who you are quoting, you are wrong. I don't put anything worse than the official release on my phone and that's usually what I get when I flash something from the Development section. It's usually extremely tacky too

Sdobron said:
You're very uniformed, the third party roms for vibrant are way more stable and bug free compared to the samsung garbage. Their programmers are terrible.
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I have to disagree with you. Ive ran every rom from the android development and they all have bugs. Usually they start off fine but a couple days later bugs start to pop out. Most roms would be final if there were bugfree, besides app updates/tweaks.
All roms where installed after running Odin/stock
Problems I had with custom roms:
Minimum 3 freezes a day.
usually freeze during music playback
External sd card was hit or miss
Freezes during usb mount
Inconsistent battery life
custom kernels caused problems
Tons of lag on every rom/Needed lagfixes
Panic Mode(Never seen this until Customs Roms)
Odin every other day
Android Market problems
Data problems(needed to activate airplane mode on/off)
etc... Hate to admit it but my HD2 was more bugfree.
Its not the devs fault, they dont have much to work with but they are certainly not bugfree. My jk6 rom is running perfectly without the need for lagfixes or custom kernels. Only mod ive added was an accurate battery mod. I understand everyones phone is apparently different but I do suggest trying the newest one.
The only rom I could use day-to-day is TW roms.

You mean the extremely slow and bloated official releases. If you haven't noticed, a lot of the improvements made to manufacturer releases are based off custom roms here. Even Google kanged some of the stuff CM has been doing in Gingerbread?. The bugs that were squashed between Window Mobile 6.0 and 6.5 were squashed on XDA. If you like slow, stale and possibly less buggy, stick with the official releases. Many of us prefer bleeding edge enhancements
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It comes to mind that Samsung will not even consider updating the Vibrant until the Nexus S has been out for at least two weeks to a month. I believe they will just wait and try to entice more people to purchase the Nexus s (the longer the wait for 2.2 the more appealing Gingerbread is on the Nexus S.) I am not impressed with the specs on the Nexus S ( no sd card for starters). The Nexus S is due out on Dec. 16, 2010 so I am not looking for an official update to 2.2 till early next year, if then.

tenbeau said:
It comes to mind that Samsung will not even consider updating the Vibrant until the Nexus S has been out for at least two weeks to a month. I believe they will just wait and try to entice more people to purchase the Nexus s (the longer the wait for 2.2 the more appealing Gingerbread is on the Nexus S.) I am not impressed with the specs on the Nexus S ( no sd card for starters). The Nexus S is due out on Dec. 16, 2010 so I am not looking for an official update to 2.2 till early next year, if then.
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I agree a million percent. Lucky for us we have dev support and the unofficial leak to pacify our wait. At least we not stuck on 2.1. I would rather the official release which should be lag free and have gps improvements.
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khulsey said:
The custom roms are nice but I like running the stock roms and loading themes from here on top of them. But if t mobile takes their sweet ass time with 2.3 then I will be running custom.
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yea im the same way.. i appreciate all the hard work from the devs and i do try the roms, but in the end i go back to stock.

[q] update to 2.3 or 3.0

My question is when and if t mobile will roll out the update to either 2.3 or 3.0..i want the stock update..any help?:d

3.0 is not for phones.
2.3 should come in a couple months.
I'm not too sure what you're asking.

Like he said, he wants to know when or if HTC/Tmo will roll out the next update. To which the answer is a fat question mark. There are rumors about Q2 2011 but who knows. Just be thankful you are not using a Samsung device
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I HAVE EARD THAT THEY WILL HAVE 3.0 FOR PHONES..I HAVE THE G2 ..IT CAME WITH 2.2 BUT I WANT ALL I CAN GET FOR IT..

cowboyintx said:
I HAVE EARD THAT THEY WILL HAVE 3.0 FOR PHONES..I HAVE THE G2 ..IT CAME WITH 2.2 BUT I WANT ALL I CAN GET FOR IT..
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3.0 is being worked on for phones. At this point the phone version of 3.0 is not even finished with development yet, so we're going to need to wait until that's done to get it. It'll come in a few months, only time will tell exactly when.

Gwanatu said:
3.0 is being worked on for phones. At this point the phone version of 3.0 is not even finished with development yet, so we're going to need to wait until that's done to get it. It'll come in a few months, only time will tell exactly when.
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Wait what? Last I heard (last week) Google said they will not be releasing the source code - except to official major manufacturers (Samsung and HTC I believe). Part of the agreement between them is that those companies are NOT to put it on a phone unless given specific permission by Google. 3.0 is the windows/iOS version of Android. They did it for a reason, so that manufacturers wouldn't rape such a well designed os by putting their own crap on it, different UI's and launchers, and try to put it on an underpowered device.
Think about it. Some fanboy or average Joe sees 3.0 running on a base model Samsung and prior to that was considering getting an Android phone. Now they won't want to and as such, will inform everyone else (family and friends) about how much of a piece of sh!t is was. That multiplies over and over until you have thousands that think the same thing though never having actually messed with Android themselves. Marketing 050, simple and basic concept. If we see 3.0 on a phone - everyone get it because that will be the device of the year and will stay that way for a long time.

Never probably... HoneyComb is not meant for mobile phones... Google came clean just a few days ago that they are working on a new version which is capable of running on both, mobile and tablet... but not just ready yet... besides, HoneyComb itself is not 100% yet...
May be IceCream will do it...
Wait and watch... Fingers crossed...

Why would you want a stock update?
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creativedevil said:
Never probably... HoneyComb is not meant for mobile phones... Google came clean just a few days ago that they are working on a new version which is capable of running on both, mobile and tablet... but not just ready yet... besides, HoneyComb itself is not 100% yet...
May be IceCream will do it...
Wait and watch... Fingers crossed...
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Yeah that's what I read too. "... the 'I' series will be the next udate to run on mobile phones". Something to that effect is what was said.
tackleberry said:
Why would you want a stock update?
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Some people prefer stock. That's the good thing about Android - there's a flavor for everyone.

Well stock update = root gone tho right? Not saying stock is, say horrid....but it does mean horrid battery life, bloatware, etc. And when I mean stock I mean carrier stock update.
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tackleberry said:
Why would you want a stock update?
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CM7 Nightly is pretty much stock update in my opinion, unless stock means the ones directly come from manufactures, not from google. Opting for stock is a very personal preference and I prefer stock because I am not so much of a fan of manufacture skins on top of vanilla experience. Still... again, it is a personal opinion.
tackleberry said:
Well stock update = root gone tho right? Not saying stock is, say horrid....but it does mean horrid battery life, bloatware, etc. And when I mean stock I mean carrier stock update.
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Root gone, but thanks to the large dev community support for HTC devices out there, it is hardly going to be a pain. As and when new version arrives, there will be a lot of devs working on it right away... Am I right Devs???
TJBunch1228 said:
Like he said, he wants to know when or if HTC/Tmo will roll out the next update. To which the answer is a fat question mark. There are rumors about Q2 2011 but who knows. Just be thankful you are not using a Samsung device
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True. Samsung update timing is horrible.

haha, I honestly don't now, but I've been with T-Mo since my G1, which was around a year and a half ago, then I got the T-Mo G2 and I've always had such a bad time waiting for OTA updates. I'm not so patient. :S But well, it'll most likely be aired soon.

T-Mobile g2 customers don't count on 3.0 if At&t gets T-Mobile... am sure we will get 2.3
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I want the stock rom..i had an hd2 and was running 2.2 on it but wasnt perfect..i love the g2 as is just want 2.3 on it:d

tackleberry said:
Why would you want a stock update?
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Why? There are tons of reasons why I personally would want it.... here's a few:
-Fully gingerbread compatible radio to end all these gps/data problems, and probably bring some battery improovements
-NEWER KERNEL! Am I the only one that would love to be on 2.6.37 or at least 2.6.35? I mean .32 is great and all but I want more!
-newer drivers (i.e. the radio update for the nexus allowed better quality video recording
I have hopes that tmobile will be able to get out an update by summer. Don't quote me on that though.

I am willing to bet if att gets tmo then that will be it for all previous phones. They will look to the future. I am also willing to bet that stock android phones(nexus series) and almost stock like the g2 will be done for. Most of the carriers favor the majority who want pretty animations and screens. They don't care about people who want fast stable phones that do what they need to do and get right to the point. I cannot recall a phone put out by another carrier in the usa that has a stock or almost stock android phone. Tmo is the only one I think of.
That being said I believe everything pretty much from here on out will have some flavor running on top. Makes me sad. Left verizon because tmo stayed true to android for the most part. I fear those days are over. I'm already thinking of an exit strategy and I've only been a customer of tmo for a month.
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Stop spreading around the misconception that the G2 runs stock android, it does NOT. Just because it looks stock doesn't mean it is. The TMO/ATT merger will not be finalized until mid next year. Before then the G2 will definately receive at least one major OS update. And what about the OG droid? That was the first phone with stock 2.0. And as long as google keeps making android, there will always be a developer phone.
Edit: Woah! Didn't check the dev section til now! A gingerbread sense wwe ruu was just leaked

mejorguille said:
Why? There are tons of reasons why I personally would want it.... here's a few:
-Fully gingerbread compatible radio to end all these gps/data problems, and probably bring some battery improovements
-NEWER KERNEL! Am I the only one that would love to be on 2.6.37 or at least 2.6.35? I mean .32 is great and all but I want more!
-newer drivers (i.e. the radio update for the nexus allowed better quality video recording
I have hopes that tmobile will be able to get out an update by summer. Don't quote me on that though.
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Not to knock you but a carrier sent stock update means bloatware, poor battery life. Im running cm7 night 31 and gps works just fine. Remember, devs will rip it apart and fix all the crap the carrier release messed up anyways. Until i cant root a device or get rid of carrier shipped roms ill always rom it up and never take a carrier shipped rom. Im sick of wireless carriers putting their garbage on my phone. If i want it, ill download it.
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Lol I guess I should have explained myself better, I meant I wanted everything extracted from it to benefit other builds like CM. I preordered my G2 and had it since sep. 29, and I experienced the whole drama about unlocking the eMMC. I absolutely hate the stock rom lol and I don't have a car so I never really cared about GPS, I've just seen people complaining. My GPS has worked on every nightly I've tried it on, maybe I'm just lucky lol.

GPS seems to work fine for G2's on CM...it has worked for me on everything 6.1+. Its the desire z users that are having most of the issues.
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Vibrant forum dying?

Before I get to my point I want to thank all the devs for there hard work that they do in their spare time. They do it for free and hope that some of us donate to make it a little more worth their while.
Maybe it's just me or does it seem like the development thread is slowing down. I've noticed lately that most of the stuff coming in now is ports from other phones and updates for past builds. Theres not alot of new stuff rolling out. EDT seems to stay busy, but what happend to TW? I would have put money on having a stable 2.3 rom out by now to use as a daily driver. We also lost Eugene and leaked samsung builds seem to not be coming out as often.
Is our phone entering the twilight years? Are the dev's losing interest and working on other phones. I've played around with some of the new phones like the atrix and thunderbolt and i'm sure they could be a lil more interesting to build for.
I hope i'm wrong and 5 min. after I post this a new 2.3 rom comes out. It was fun when you flashed a new trigger rom and 1 day later the new bionix came out. This is a really nice phone and you have to really try hard to brick it. It's almost like Samsung designed it to be modded. Hopefully the devs can get inspired again or some new blood comes in to give us something new.

I think we need to be patient. One day there will be a leak for gb and things will fire up again.
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just relax man every phone goes through spells of development. I see you only joined in april so just wait, Whitehawkx had a mostly working gb port working minus the gps and we have CM7 and MIUI support now as well.
Be patient this phone is amazing and im certain development will continue for it for some time.
In the mean time flash a miui beta or try out the EDT roms you wont be disappointed.

Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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u guys keep us coming back for more every day and i thank you for that! great job on all this.

explodingboy70 said:
Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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Yes, but point being is that we're pretty much at the mercy of Samsung & T-Mobile to release a 2.3.
We will not have a kernel source to play with until it releases for I9K, and even then we'll have issues for a while. And we won't have one with rockin' battery life until we get a leak or source.
But yeah, there really isn't much developing coming from anyone except the guys working on kernels & people like Whitehawk, sonique, and of course Untermench who actaully modify the code. Because there's not much else to do.

Things are winding down. There are only a handful of people around who have the knowledge and inclination to roll their own ROMs.
As newer devices with more capabilities are introduced (the dual core LG G2X will be in T-mobile stores April 20th), then the older ones lose favor.
That is how it is with Android. Your 8 month old phone becomes old. After 15 months its an antique!

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Lets not forget Simply Galaxy v3 a 2.3.3 rom. Yes still developing but stable.
Once we get a proper kernel you'll see more Gingerbread roms as for right now you have a ton of quality 2.2.1 and 2.2 roms to chose from.
Of course the OP is welcome to start developing on their own and contribute.
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I actually have tried to develop a theme to post here but there is so much involved with all the editing and i simply don't have the time. I really wish I did. Trust me I have a great respect for what the dev's do once I started playing around with just a theme. I can only imagine what a rom would take. Plus I can honestly say i'm not skilled enough to put out a quality rom any time soon, if ever. I'm really not complaining about effort or quantity from the devs, i've just noticed lately there seems to be a dull in the dev section. I was just wondering why.

Eugene is back. He said on twitter that he bought a Vibrant. You can see evidence, his newest Ginger Clone version has already had 4 updates.
Sure a lot of the development is for 2.2 and 2.2.1 roms, but I'd say we're easily WAY more active than we used to be. We've now got plenty of choices of roms, kernels, and themes. We've also got new people joining the Vibe development scene. There's an experimental Gingerbread Sense that's just started testing. We are now officially supported by the MIUI team. I see new things happening every day. Development doesn't always happen overnight, but I believe we've still got lots of good things look forward to.

Slowing down? I still remember when there was only one rom in the dev section. Now there's a new one each week, and at least one update every day.

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Things are winding down. There are only a handful of people around who have the knowledge and inclination to roll their own ROMs.
As newer devices with more capabilities are introduced (the dual core LG G2X will be in T-mobile stores April 20th), then the older ones lose favor.
That is how it is with Android. Your 8 month old phone becomes old. After 15 months its an antique!
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?

dcontrol said:
Slowing down? I still remember when there was only one rom in the dev section. Now there's a new one each week, and at least one update every day.
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Haha yeah I remember that too. But ROMs every week != good. Most of them are ports and aren't stable.
I really wish we could have AOSP roms so we could have TRUE development going on. None of this hack and patch stuff.
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I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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They want CM lol (as do I)

Why do we keep having these threads. I rooted my phone late last year. I have been more then satisfied. I'm just glad to have a faster better phone than what I had originally. Just have some damn patience.
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Keep in mind the psychology at work here. Most of the people who get all angsty about this are rom comsumers, and not active dev's, themers, or kangers.
It appears that what we are experiencing now is a lot of cross development, taking existing roms from the international i9000 and porting them to our universe thanks to the availability of kernel source for 2.2. So the nature of activity has changed, but the scope has actually expanded.
This phone (thanks to dev work here @ XDA) stopped sucking ass A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Gains to be had at this point are largely cosmetic, so there is the appearance that improvements are not coming at the rate they used to. The fact of the matter is that quantitative improvements are largely unnecessary at this point.
As a "consumer" myself (I gave up on linux development a long time ago, owing to my own inherent laziness) I find the current state of affairs quite amazing. Your mileage may vary. YMMV.

What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^

masterotaku said:
Keep in mind the psychology at work here. Most of the people who get all angsty about this are rom comsumers, and not active dev's, themers, or kangers.
It appears that what we are experiencing now is a lot of cross development, taking existing roms from the international i9000 and porting them to our universe thanks to the availability of kernel source for 2.2. So the nature of activity has changed, but the scope has actually expanded.
This phone (thanks to dev work here @ XDA) stopped sucking ass A VERY LONG TIME AGO. Gains to be had at this point are largely cosmetic, so there is the appearance that improvements are not coming at the rate they used to. The fact of the matter is that quantitative improvements are largely unnecessary at this point.
As a "consumer" myself (I gave up on linux development a long time ago, owing to my own inherent laziness) I find the current state of affairs quite amazing. Your mileage may vary. YMMV.
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Well said. It's just like what happened when I had the N1, people started to complain because the roms were so stable there weren't many updates being released.

regP said:
I still dont understand what people are trippin on. We have some blazing fast 2.2.1 ROMs and a few gingerbread ROMs that are stable. What functionality are people looking for int he Vibrant that we dont have?
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i dont know either...
2.3 probably WILL be faster than 2.2 (duh) but besides the speed, we have everything else.
All thats going to be different is when you go into settings about it will say 2.3 gingerbread
instead of 2.2 or 2.2.1
the rest is good.
im on miui, and i switch between cm7 and miui once in a while
im never going back to 2.2.1

birgertime said:
What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Very true. People want updates, but they don't know why.
If its not being updated as fast as it used to, chances are it doesn't even really NEED updating.

birgertime said:
What's funny is that people much prefer a broken ROM that gets fixed rather than a fully working ROM out of the box ^_^
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Well said. Someone just asked on one of my 2.2.1 threads why it was so quiet and my only thought was because everything works. Here it is everything has been fixed there should be nothing left to discuss here flash and enjoy.
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thegreatcity said:
Very true. People want updates, but they don't know why.
If its not being updated as fast as it used to, chances are it doesn't even really NEED updating.
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That's the point for me. I stopped updating at KA6. Sure KA7 came out not long after, but why? I had been updating daily/weekly until then, always fighting some bug or flaw. With KA6, I flashed the ODIN version, removed bloatware myself, added the round battery icon, power off menu, and that was *it*. More recently I've updated the Kernel to Overstock 2.x and voodoo FS, but I'm not even sure why I need voodoo. Can't tell a difference in the real speed of the phone.
I didn't take the phone apart to add FFC like so many did (and who also never use it in most cases), so I don't need improved support for that... and themes, well... I guess there is that, not much going on in KA6 themes -- but that doesn't affect the use of the phone at all.
KA6 for me has been fast, stable, and by far the best on battery life of any I've touched yet. There are few if any programs out there that require 2.3 or higher, and until that is the case, why change?
The atmosphere is totally different than it was last fall, when the rest of the world was going 2.2 and Vibrant was stuck on 2.1. At that time, there were an increasing number of programs that simply would not work on Eclair - plus Froyo had been promised as an update. Now we have everything Samsung promised, and really if you're running a lightly modded ROM, it *is* bug-free.
So... until I am forced to consider 2.3, I'm sticking with KA6.. It is nice after years of constantly flashing upgrades on the HTC Vogue (wm6), then the G1, then flashing the MT3G constantly, then constantly flashing the Vibrant, to actually pick up my phone and have it work the same way it did yesterday.

Gingerrrbrreeaddddd??

Hi all. I was just wondering if anyone has heard or knows about the "official" release date for gingerbread. Thanks in advance.
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Herd it was summer time which is nice to think bout but gives us a 90 day period we could be lookin at based on wut we consider 'summer'
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sabeyta said:
Herd it was summer time which is nice to think bout but gives us a 90 day period we could be lookin at based on wut we consider 'summer'
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Same I also heard it was summer
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Q2 of 2011.
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Damn it. Lol I wish it was before summer. No one wants to stay inside playing on their fresh ass g2
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Just run CM7 in the mean time. There are also bone stock gingerbread roms around.

What ones? I know of no totally aosp gingerbread for g2.
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There's not one single pure stock AOSP Gingerbread based ROM for the G2. Period. Every single one of them is built off CM7, which has lots of bugs. If you don't believe me about the bugs, check them out on their site here...
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/list
There's currently 305 issues with CM7, which blows my mind. I've always loved the CM ROMs for my MyTouch3G, MyTouch4G, and 6.1.1 for the G2. However, CM7 has too many bugs for me to use as a daily driver. I prefer running either Sense or Froyo ROMs on my phone, but once the official Gingerbread source code is released and used by devs I'll probably hop on that in a second.

I obviously don't want a gingerbread based rom, especially since I asked when the official gingerbread would be released. Thanks though.
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There's not one single pure stock AOSP Gingerbread based ROM for the G2. Period. Every single one of them is built off CM7, which has lots of bugs. If you don't believe me about the bugs, check them out on their site here...
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/list
There's currently 305 issues with CM7, which blows my mind. I've always loved the CM ROMs for my MyTouch3G, MyTouch4G, and 6.1.1 for the G2. However, CM7 has too many bugs for me to use as a daily driver. I prefer running either Sense or Froyo ROMs on my phone, but once the official Gingerbread source code is released and used by devs I'll probably hop on that in a second.
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strange, I don't experience a single issue with CM7 or CM7 based roms.

Thugnificent69 said:
strange, I don't experience a single issue with CM7 or CM7 based roms.
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The only issues I ever experienced was video playback in portrait mode (which I believe has been fixed now) and the Gmail marginal issue (which is STILL broken). Other than that, it's been good to me. But, because I use Gmail religiously throughout the day, I can't use it as my daily driver.

xboarder56's stock gingerbread rom is pretty awesome. it is very stable and has enough mods that you can really tweak your phone, also it is crazy fast and he updates regularly.

On a side note since it's not really thread worthy, If I'm running stock rooted de-odexed Rom, will I be able to just upgrade to Gingerbread as if I wasn't rooted. I mean would I be able to just upgrade to it with no problems.

Not sure what"s exactly meaning of "Official", from T-mobile ? There are so many GingerBread ROM, i vapourily see a office ROM publish in forum, not quite sure.

For most devices it comes stock or has an update released. If you have a rooted device, and want it, download "ROM Manager" and download "CyanogenMod 7.0.0" and this will not give you 2.3.2. but it will give you 2.3.3! But if you want to get it through, Android Via OTA Upadate, you will need to wait til late June 2011.

If it makes anyone feel better the euro galaxy S has an official release + published kernel source, looks like moto is also rolling out GB for it's X's.

For the newly released devices it comes stock, if you want it, Via OTA Android Update, for the T-Mobile G2 you will need to wait til late June 2011. If your device is rooted and you want Gingerbread you will need to download ROM Mangaer and Flash the CyanogenMod 7.0.0 ROM.

GREAT News! Dev of Oxygen Rom (Desire) gets an SGS2!

The title says it all
The dev (AdamG) of THE BEST AOSP Rom (Oxygen) for the HTC Desire is getting an SGS2!
Expect a fast, clean, simple, feature rich and bug-free ROM for the SGS2!
http://twitter.com/#!/adamg_xda

Nice. Seems like alot of devs moving towards the SG2 in favor of the sensation and atrix(lol)
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Yeah, was quite happy to read that! Since he just got a Nexus I didn't think he would be developing for the SGS2. Let's just hope CM get AOSP working (properly) soon...

The Sensation new screen shape is horrible, remembers me of 5800!
At least the SGS2 is a real evolution in all levels (just needed better plastic) and its rooted.
The promises of CM7 and MIUI have pushed many ex-HTC devs to try the SGS2
Where are you Paul Obrien??

Whoop whoop, loved Adam's work on the Desire, can't wait for his development on the SG2....
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Adam G is one of the best rom chef on the Desire forum. It's great news that he is coming to our device

Nice! I love Oxygen on my Desire and looking forward installing it on SGS2

His last tweet: "Royal mail just delivered me an early xmas present http://bit.ly/lKaBZt ".
Sweet.
http://bit.ly/lKaBZt

It shouldnt be too hard to port Oxygen to SGS2, Im suprised there have been no other AOSP ROMs made when its been out for 2 months now.

Love Oxygen for my Desire, and can't wait to see it on my SGS2!
So happy to see so much development going on for the SGS2, looks like Samsung really have it together and understand how to please everyone. I'm sure this phone will be their best selling so far and rightfully so!
I'm not manufacturer loyal and the SGS2 is my first Samsung, but I can't really think of any reason so far why my next phone wouldn't be another Samsung.

there has been 1 attempt by ryanza

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It shouldnt be too hard to port Oxygen to SGS2, Im suprised there have been no other AOSP ROMs made when its been out for 2 months now.
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I hope thats true, i cannot stand touchwiz, currently using miui on my sgs2 but loved using aosp on my htc desire, i wish you the best of luck to get aosp working.
Andy.

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It shouldnt be too hard to port Oxygen to SGS2, Im suprised there have been no other AOSP ROMs made when its been out for 2 months now.
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Hey, good to see you here. Atinm and Codeworkx are the guys who are working hard to get AOSP working at the moment, but they're struggling with some issues. There are several threads here where they give progression updates every now and then. I know things haven't always been good between you and CM developers on the Desire, but I believe Atinm and Codeworkx are happily sharing information with other -serious- developers so it might be worth contacting them. Well, it's great to see you here and I hope you get it working soon!

What's the Oxygen rom guys?

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What's the Oxygen rom guys?
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you have to see desire thread for oxygen rom,
link--
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971904
i have used same on my desire.
but some how its battery life was not good as that of sense roms leedroid or coolexe.
also there are not more ports as we have seen in desire ,
devs have ported all most all present roms to HTC desire that was very cool.
something i am missing out here in SGS2 forum.
but hope for best future of samsung galaxy s2 will have ports like our old desire.

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What's the Oxygen rom guys?
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http://bit.ly/iNkzgV

Oxygen coming to sgs2. Most excellent. I have Oxygen on my Nexus S and love it. Looking forwards to getting the SGS2 when available plus Oxygen Rom.

Adam G is one of the best devs out there : ) not only in the desire section..... lucky galaxy 2 owner

Really great news... I was using Oxygen on my HTC Desire.

ludow said:
http://bit.ly/iNkzgV
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coooool how did you do that!