Need some guidance/info.. Help!!! - Epic 4G General

I currently have a htc evo, but im thinking of getting a epic.. I just can't have a phone for 2 long..lol.. I had it since launch date.. Now I would like some info on how the dev support is over here such as the best roms and kernels and is it easy to root.. Could you please share your experience with the epic (roms/kernels) and pros and cons would be great.. Thanks..
By the way the gpu on the epic is what is really making me want to switch
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jayv1717 said:
I currently have a htc evo, but im thinking of getting a epic.. I just can't have a phone for 2 long..lol.. I had it since launch date.. Now I would like some info on how the dev support is over here such as the best roms and kernels and is it easy to root.. Could you please share your experience with the epic (roms/kernels) and pros and cons would be great.. Thanks..
By the way the gpu on the epic is what is really making me want to switch
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Rooting is extremely easy..I mean you can even use z4root app if you want to..otherwise we got 1 click root + clockwork..
As for development...its ok, no where as big as the EVO, but EVO has been out longer and people are more familiar with HTC..overall though its getting there..Cyanogen mod is in the works and some night builds are out..
We have a few roms to choose from, as for kernels..right now most of our custom kernels are for Eclair only..as we are waiting for them to release Froyo and with it comes source code (unlike HTC, Samsung releases source within a day or so)...
There are a few developments going on for building the kernel from scratch as well...
I think cyanogan team is working on making a universal kernal for all sgs devices so that we can use the other sgs stuff..(at least thats what I heard I might be mistaken)
Also we have a tool called Odin...which effectively makes our phones "almost" unbrickable...as its a tool used by Samsung themselves to flash roms..

Dev support is great. We should be getting cm6 rather soon as there are really just a few things left to fix and that will of course be the best rom. People running nightlies have been saying they're getting like 1400+ scores in quadrant so it'll be lightning fast.
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wait I forgot the epic isn't on froyo yet, but 1400+ on 2.1 is just crazy.. What setup are you guys using?
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That was just one report of someone running a nightly of cm6. I mean the raw power is there but we'll have to see.
Also I believe cm is being developed on dk28 which is a leaked froyo build
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I just put cm6 on my phone and got a 1693 in quadrant so ya. Cm6 is fast.
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I would be hesitant to move to the epic for the simple reason that samsung can't seem to get a timely update out and this limits what the developers can accomplish. At this point I wonder if samsung will release android 2.3 for the epic. With out an official release and the source code that goes with it, it is unlikely that we will see custom kernels for it.
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Just put a pure AOSP rom on my hero

K I was bored and decided to put gingerbread on my hero to see what it was like since we don't got it on the epic, and instead I found a "pure aosp" rom that the developer built from the ground up using straight google code...and it runs and looks beautiful and only has stock apps+spare parts and ran snappy on my hero runnin at 528mhz (I CBA to find an ovrclocked kernel a the time)
So I was wondering..........how hard would it b to build a pure aosp rom? Not cm...just pure aosp?
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A_Flying_Fox said:
K I was bored and decided to put gingerbread on my hero to see what it was like since we don't got it on the epic, and instead I found a "pure aosp" rom that the developer built from the ground up using straight google code...and it runs and looks beautiful and only has stock apps+spare parts and ran snappy on my hero runnin at 528mhz (I CBA to find an ovrclocked kernel a the time)
So I was wondering..........how hard would it b to build a pure aosp rom? Not cm...just pure aosp?
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It would be extremely easy to build a pure AOSP ROM for the Epic 4G.
Now, if you wanted it to work or even install, I couldn't tell you the answer.
The difficult part is reverse engineering the drivers that samsung hasn't given source for. That's what has taken them so long to port CyanogenMod. However, once they have most of the work done, it will be much easier to attempt a pure AOSP rom.
I should've mentioned it was apure 2.2 build...I didn't bother with gb because I realized I'm not getting it anytime soon so I didn't wanna tease myself...but now I'm jealous of straight up pure 2.2
The hero only had 2.1 drivers to work with and the dev built it, so shouldn't it be feasible with the epic 2.1 drivers/sauce given a devoted dev?
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I'm pretty sure there's a ROM that is a pure AOSP...I want to say the Truly Epic ROM but I'm not sure...(ill edit the post for confirmation). Also, just put a request for a FroYo theme in the themes & apps section to see if you can get something at least similar
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A_Flying_Fox said:
I should've mentioned it was apure 2.2 build...I didn't bother with gb because I realized I'm not getting it anytime soon so I didn't wanna tease myself...but now I'm jealous of straight up pure 2.2
The hero only had 2.1 drivers to work with and the dev built it, so shouldn't it be feasible with the epic 2.1 drivers/sauce given a devoted dev?
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They did it, but it took a while. The CM people are giving us a start towards AOSP, but it will take a while. The phone has only been out for 5 months.
5months is a long time when it comes to technological innovations....or at least the ones they release to the public.
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I'm pretty sure there's a ROM that is a pure AOSP...I want to say the Truly Epic ROM but I'm not sure...(ill edit the post for confirmation). Also, just put a request for a FroYo theme in the themes & apps section to see if you can get something at least similar
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There are no roms that are pure aosp for the epic the closest thing we have is CM.I was working on a pure aosp build for a bit maybe I will pick it up again soon we'll see.

Gingerrrbrreeaddddd??

Hi all. I was just wondering if anyone has heard or knows about the "official" release date for gingerbread. Thanks in advance.
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Herd it was summer time which is nice to think bout but gives us a 90 day period we could be lookin at based on wut we consider 'summer'
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Herd it was summer time which is nice to think bout but gives us a 90 day period we could be lookin at based on wut we consider 'summer'
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Same I also heard it was summer
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Q2 of 2011.
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Damn it. Lol I wish it was before summer. No one wants to stay inside playing on their fresh ass g2
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Just run CM7 in the mean time. There are also bone stock gingerbread roms around.
What ones? I know of no totally aosp gingerbread for g2.
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There's not one single pure stock AOSP Gingerbread based ROM for the G2. Period. Every single one of them is built off CM7, which has lots of bugs. If you don't believe me about the bugs, check them out on their site here...
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/list
There's currently 305 issues with CM7, which blows my mind. I've always loved the CM ROMs for my MyTouch3G, MyTouch4G, and 6.1.1 for the G2. However, CM7 has too many bugs for me to use as a daily driver. I prefer running either Sense or Froyo ROMs on my phone, but once the official Gingerbread source code is released and used by devs I'll probably hop on that in a second.
I obviously don't want a gingerbread based rom, especially since I asked when the official gingerbread would be released. Thanks though.
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There's not one single pure stock AOSP Gingerbread based ROM for the G2. Period. Every single one of them is built off CM7, which has lots of bugs. If you don't believe me about the bugs, check them out on their site here...
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/list
There's currently 305 issues with CM7, which blows my mind. I've always loved the CM ROMs for my MyTouch3G, MyTouch4G, and 6.1.1 for the G2. However, CM7 has too many bugs for me to use as a daily driver. I prefer running either Sense or Froyo ROMs on my phone, but once the official Gingerbread source code is released and used by devs I'll probably hop on that in a second.
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strange, I don't experience a single issue with CM7 or CM7 based roms.
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strange, I don't experience a single issue with CM7 or CM7 based roms.
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The only issues I ever experienced was video playback in portrait mode (which I believe has been fixed now) and the Gmail marginal issue (which is STILL broken). Other than that, it's been good to me. But, because I use Gmail religiously throughout the day, I can't use it as my daily driver.
xboarder56's stock gingerbread rom is pretty awesome. it is very stable and has enough mods that you can really tweak your phone, also it is crazy fast and he updates regularly.
On a side note since it's not really thread worthy, If I'm running stock rooted de-odexed Rom, will I be able to just upgrade to Gingerbread as if I wasn't rooted. I mean would I be able to just upgrade to it with no problems.
Not sure what"s exactly meaning of "Official", from T-mobile ? There are so many GingerBread ROM, i vapourily see a office ROM publish in forum, not quite sure.
For most devices it comes stock or has an update released. If you have a rooted device, and want it, download "ROM Manager" and download "CyanogenMod 7.0.0" and this will not give you 2.3.2. but it will give you 2.3.3! But if you want to get it through, Android Via OTA Upadate, you will need to wait til late June 2011.
If it makes anyone feel better the euro galaxy S has an official release + published kernel source, looks like moto is also rolling out GB for it's X's.
For the newly released devices it comes stock, if you want it, Via OTA Android Update, for the T-Mobile G2 you will need to wait til late June 2011. If your device is rooted and you want Gingerbread you will need to download ROM Mangaer and Flash the CyanogenMod 7.0.0 ROM.

[Poll] Whats your favorite os and why?

So we have been blessed with android for almost 3 years now. Out of all the different treats Google has cooked up for us which one has been your favorite and why? For me its kind of a hard question to answer straight forward. A few of you may say this question seems irrelevant but I have a feeling some of the answers may surprise you.
Cupcake/doughnut was my first experience and brought us by far the best battery life.
Eclair kind of began to bring some much needed aesthetics to android.
Froyo gave us the glorious flash!!!!
Gingerbread.... still trying to figure out the point of that update, or at least why its a different version name
Honeycomb could have been the ****, but imho was rushed out way to soon.​
I really liked eclair on the Droid
wheres the option for windows mobile. haha just kidding
Froyo
I started with Froyo as my first Android OS and I loved it coming from Blackberry. Well since GB came out I figured I would give it a try since i've heard alot of good things about it... I've tried it a couple of times now but in the end I always go back to Froyo (mysense).. I know alot of people say it's heavy and slow but the setup I've got thanks to the Royal team it seems no slower than any GB rom i've tried... I like GB ok, if i do decide to stick with GB as my daily driver it will probably be Royal Ginger I really like what they've done with that one...
I have to say that my favorite variant of Android is 2.3 AOSP. B L A Z I N G fast and really slim. Just gets the job done without all of the fluff and puff that others bring.
iOS is nice. I own an iPod Touch. But for a daily driver i cannot live without my Android.
I switched from blackberry and might switch back if they ever make a powerhouse phone withstand he big form factor....the bold touch that should be out soon might be it....I love android....but I love my bold's keyboard even more
MT4G + Royal MIUI + Faux's BFS LV kernel
Eclair was a HUGE improvement over 1.x. Froyo was a big improvement over Eclair. Gingerbread didn't bring significant improvements over Froyo for me that are worth dumping stable Froyo pure Sense (DHD) for funky Gingerbread Sense ports with problems. I want to be able to record videos. So, I guess it's Froyo for me.
Froyo runs the best on my phone
I like stock Froyo on the Droid Incredible 2
I had installed gingerbread on my myTouch 4G and now I have the G2x, and I must say, I miss gingerbread!
I have faux123's aosp gingerbread, its my daily driver as its fast and bloat free.
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I Really Like Gingerbread but we'll see about Ice Cream Sandwich
gbondoc said:
I Really Like Gingerbread but we'll see about Ice Cream Sandwich
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Froyo was nice, a huge update from eclair, but I like the look of gingerbread.
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cnote74 said:
I have faux123's aosp gingerbread, its my daily driver as its fast and bloat free.
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+ 1 here, CM Nexus Gingerbread by faux123 is a great clean rom.

CM7 The Only Hope For Epic 4G?

As this community slowly declines one can't help but think, is CM7 the only thing we have left to look forward to?
I don't know if we can or not. We managed to troll/eta ourselves into getting the thread closed.
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Not really i mean we've got ACS... Bonsai ...MidNight.... Nebula (hopefully)... MIUI .... all this should kick off shortly.
but i mean after gingerbread... then what ? Gingerbread is already pretty old so i mean...
I don't know guys, maybe samsprint will surprise us.
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As much a my phone would love some ice cream sandwich, I highly doubt samsprint will officially support it for the epic. While gingerbread was a nice treat (pun intended). I beielve this will be the last official update. But hey hopefully the devs can work some magic...if there are ay left by then!
From cellblock D
Reaction to Official GB will Reveal All
I suspect the reaction to the official gingerbread release will tell us. I suspect we'll see a flurry of the standard players after the GB release, Bonsai (my favorite), ACS, etc. However, they will quickly reach the point where they have done all they can do, (i.e. applied all the currently known tweaks/patches).
After that, it's really CM. CM7 development (based on commits) seems to have slowed a bit after a flurrish at the end of May. If the CM7 team is able to get it stable based on the official GB source, the Epic can then ride the CM train for a while. If that doesn't happen, I expect 1-2 revisions of tweeked ROMs based on GB from each team, particularly Bonsai and ACS and then development on the Epic will be done.
More tasty deserts with CM7.
gdbassett said:
I suspect the reaction to the official gingerbread release will tell us. I suspect we'll see a flurry of the standard players after the GB release, Bonsai (my favorite), ACS, etc. However, they will quickly reach the point where they have done all they can do, (i.e. applied all the currently known tweaks/patches).
After that, it's really CM. CM7 development (based on commits) seems to have slowed a bit after a flurrish at the end of May. If the CM7 team is able to get it stable based on the official GB source, the Epic can then ride the CM train for a while. If that doesn't happen, I expect 1-2 revisions of tweeked ROMs based on GB from each team, particularly Bonsai and ACS and then development on the Epic will be done.
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I agree if we are lucky we may get an ice cream sammich. With CM7 we can get timely upgrades of more tasty deserts like jelly beans, kiwi pudding, lemon meringue pie, etc, etc....
Not even looking at icecream sandwitch, if we get to CM7, we will not just get major updates, but we'll get regular, minor releases as well. Those can provide additional featuers. (I'd personally LOVE to get the granular permissions control thats being added to CM7.) If we don't get to CM7, we can dream about ICS, but in reality, we're unlikely to get features and instead only get ROM tweeks (and kernel modules).
Also we will have continued development and not have development stop because of lack of source code. That is what I hate most about not being on cyanogenmod. With the lawsuit with apple Samsung should seriously consider working more with cyanogenmod and just dump touch wiz all together. In my opinion touch wiz is not all that impressive and serious limits the phone's compatibility.
jamice4u said:
I agree if we are lucky we may get an ice cream sammich. With CM7 we can get timely upgrades of more tasty deserts like jelly beans, kiwi pudding, lemon meringue pie, etc, etc....
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+1 charrrrrrr LMMMMAO!!!!!!!!
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jamice4u said:
Also we will have continued development and not have development stop because of lack of source code. That is what I hate most about not being on cyanogenmod. With the lawsuit with apple Samsung should seriously consider working more with cyanogenmod and just dump touch wiz all together. In my opinion touch wiz is not all that impressive and serious limits the phone's compatibility.
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To the consumer touchwiz may not seem much. But to sammy it is. There's always some in depth agenda the consumer has no clue about.
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I believe that after GB we have no other updates coming for the Epic (official at least). But we manage to get CM, that would change the appeal of the phone, and would be a retention factor for many.
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I believe that after GB we have no other updates coming for the Epic (official at least). But we manage to get CM, that would change the appeal of the phone, and would be a retention factor for many.
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I believe something of a sort aswell my friend. But the CM7 team will have a fully functional release by the end of the summer. I'm positive. Then will have a lot more activity going on with the epic community once again. Just have patience and encourage our developers. Donate. And keep the hype going. Believe it or not the people are the devs source of encouragment.
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Cm 7 is not the problem.. The nexus kernel will be our only hope.
Custodian said:
To the consumer touchwiz may not seem much. But to sammy it is. There's always some in depth agenda the consumer has no clue about.
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Does that agenda have to do with $$$? Besides it should not be a problem with them people like us only account for less than 5% of the market share anyways.
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Does that agenda have to do with $$$? Besides it should not be a problem with them people like us only account for less than 5% of the market share anyways.
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Its always about money.
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I don't use touchwiz as my launcher but I've come to really appreciate the other small enhancements touchwiz brings.
I might be the only one but I really cannot stand sense.
This phone works great - I don't think it really needs that many more updates.
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I want miui
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ya im really hopin once 2.3 comes out the CM7 team will get everything on track. i agree with the fact CM7 will more than likely be our last hope after 2.3 comes out, atleast for those who want to stay up to date with an older handset which has great hardware regardless. single core or not, epic has been a dream phone to me, especialy coming from the moment(touch pro 2, touch pro, mogul and ppc 6700 before that. i wont ever go all touch, KB is too important for me). the devs on here are great and keep guys like us loving our phones but i also dont forsee ICS coming to the Epic, even though google made an announcement that android phones will be updated to new software at minimum of 18months AFTER release, although that announcment was made more than 6 months after the epic came out. sucks that this phone hasnt even hit the 1 year mark yet and we are already at EOL even on firmware side. hopefully google puts the pressure on the manufacturers AND service providers for these updates regardless of when they announced that. only time will tell guys but regardless i wont buy a phone without a KB. at this point im so satisfied with my epic i can see myself rockin this bad boy for another 3+ years if need be, does what i want, when i want and has one of the best 5-row KB ive ever used. only thing missin on my EE03 is for impaler to make a keyboard fix for these dropped keys lol i miss my speed demon patch, BIG life saver for me. i type as fast if not at times faster on my epic than i do on a regular PC keyboard =P
Love. It I'm using cm7
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Getting Bored with My G2

I've owned my G2 since it's been out, and I have to say that I'm starting to get bored with it. I have it rooted and I've flashed just about every ROM that's been released for it. Sadly, all the recent ROM development is for ICS, and most of those are in alpha/beta stages. I need something new, fresh and is close to 100% bug-free as possible. I've played with most of the Sense based ROMs, MIUI, and CM7 creations, but my primary DD has been CM7.1 Stable.
Just thought I'd share my thoughts here, see if I'm not alone in this, and what others have done to get out of this rut.
What phone are you thinking of switching to?
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What phone are you thinking of switching to?
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My contract won't expire for about a year, and I'll more than likely be leaving TMO as their service is horrible in my new place. That's an issue that really isn't tolerable at all, but my boredom comes from the decline in ROM development for this kick ass phone. Sure, it's an older phone, but it's still a great phone that other phones can't compete with. Also, I tried ICS and I honestly wasn't all that impressed with it. I still enjoyed running Froyo and love Gingerbread, and wish I had the skills/talent to develop updated/enhanced flavors of Sense/AOSP/MIUI based ROMs. There's many to choose out there, but as I said so many of them are in alpha/beta stages with the prevalent "camera not working" bug.
The purpose of this thread was more so to see what ROMs people were using as their DDs, but based on your question I'd be interested to hear what G2 owners have upgraded their phones to as well. I love my G2 and will be sad to part ways with it when that day comes.
I Recomand HTC one x It's the best phone I've ever .
stian230 said:
I Recomand HTC one x It's the best phone I've ever .
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That's only available for AT&T, correct? Which HTC One phone is coming out for TMO?
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That's only available for AT&T, correct? Which HTC One phone is coming out for TMO?
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Google was my friend, and the S is coming out for TMO and X for AT&T.
I'm getting equally bored. My contract isn't up till next jan but I'm thinking of trading in for an asus padfone. This will also replace my asus transformer. I enjoy the keyboard on the DZ but I just feel there is a drop in gingerbread development and ICS is in need of proper drivers. Maybe things will change when the DHD get official update.
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Google was my friend, and the S is coming out for TMO and X for AT&T.
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Unconfirmed rumors indicate the X may be coming to T-Mobile (in addition to the S), and also coming to Sprint as the "EVO One" of "EVO HD".
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I Recomand HTC one x It's the best phone I've ever .
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The fact that the HTC One S has no micro sd card slot is a def deal breaker for me. I've been using miui as my daily driver. I would love to see a smooth ics miui rom released
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I've been using miui as my daily driver. I would love to see a smooth ics miui rom released
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Regardless of speed, miuiv4 doesn't have the same feel for me as gingerbread based. It just lacks the user friendly experience.
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I've been using gb miui for nearly the time I've had this phone (about 6 months). I've played with the HTC one x and galaxy note and without custom roms I don't think they are any smoother in general interface than what I have (overclock to 1.5 helps). However you are right, I've also tried nearly every rom out there and after a few hours or days running an ics rom I always come back to miui because it's bug free and fast.
Development has slowed lately, probably because they've run out of things to improve, but there are a few ics development teams improving their roms on a weekly basis so in a couple of months I'd hope for a near perfect ics version.
Saying that I'll be getting a galaxy note in a few days because I still want something new and different.
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G2 is life
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I am also extremely interested in finding out which the roms the community is using as their daily rom. Like OP I have flashed most of the roms and now am just looking for the most stable rom.
ILWT all the way!
I first flashed it in February and have come back to it every time I've flashed another ROM. That's more that can be said of any other ROM I've had.
Supersmooth performance, stable and everything works.
In regards to the phone itself; this is the first phone I've ever had where I'm actually reluctant to get another because I don't want to let it go. I bought my DZ about 14 months ago. I'm not bound to any contract so that is not why I keep it around. I'm guessing it must be true love
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I am also extremely interested in finding out which the roms the community is using as their daily rom. Like OP I have flashed most of the roms and now am just looking for the most stable rom.
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I've tried them all, literally, and I keep coming back to CM 7.1.0 Stable with it OC'd at 1200 MHz. I don't believe I've ever experienced an issue, except for the fact that TMO coverage in my area sucks ass.
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I am also extremely interested in finding out which the roms the community is using as their daily rom. Like OP I have flashed most of the roms and now am just looking for the most stable rom.
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Rocking ILWT. It's one of the best CM7 ROM's around, and my personal favourite. I also find myself coming back to it. =]
I just flashed ILWT and I'm impressed with it, although it's not very different than CM7. I do like the Aroma installer, very nice touch.
G lite all the way baby
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I am using Andromadus Audacity b2 as daily driver and it is very smooth after i understood that I should use 4ext superwipe not 3ext...

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