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This is so dumb why is htc puting sense on every phone?

Why not just give it to hero and leave it at that?Now verizon got there gruubby little hands on sense but why have two androids released at the same time.Sprint has the hero but the the distinctive looking version the chinless one.The tmo Us got 3 android phones but they arent as good as the competition though.Now the hero is no longer uniquie since all these look alike are getting the touch up.

You do know that there are over 20 android phones slated to come out in the next 6-8 months, right? The hero isnt unique anyway. We've had hero roms running on the G1 since before the hero even had a US release.

yep its now just part of a series of clones..

Yeah I'm not really a fan of Sense UI, it has a couple of cool widgets but it's such a resource hog. Even if I had a Hero with the extra RAM I'd still use the regular launcher, but that's just me.

Ace42 said:
Why not just give it to hero and leave it at that?Now verizon got there gruubby little hands on sense but why have two androids released at the same time.Sprint has the hero but the the distinctive looking version the chinless one.The tmo Us got 3 android phones but they arent as good as the competition though.Now the hero is no longer uniquie since all these look alike are getting the touch up.
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well sense ui is very visually appealing and adds function compared to phones running regular android. why keep sense ui only on hero...its htcs own custom ui so they should be able to do what they want.
plus the hero will just end up being a dud...a prototype for sense ui and see where they can improve upon..just like the g1...and the extra ram really does help with speed and multitasking.
and besides companies custom UIs is only included on phone without the 'with google" branding..(sprint hero is an exception)

Lol, that reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS7qVjr1Vps
OMG, why did HTC port sense to other Phones!, YOU WILL PAY HTC, whaaa, whaaa, I wanted exclusive!!!!
Dude, seriously...

Why do you care ?
Frankly I want to see Android do well. Why do I care if other Android phones get anothers UI ? All I care about is handset makers putting top grade hardware for these things.
In a forum much dedicated to importing UIs and Apps from other phones pretty damn ignorant to get upset about this.

i use sense on my g1 just wanted ur opinions since there are so many clones released now

Ace42 said:
i use sense on my g1 just wanted ur opinions since there are so many clones released now
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they arent clones...tattoo has 1.6
even so, they arent clones..thats like saying two different dell laptops are clones because they both run windows 7

Sense is pretty much HTC's version or "Branch" of android much like Ubuntu is to
Debian (although not as different).
All HTC Phones with sense offer something different.
The Hero is an "All Rounder" (At the moment)
The Tattoo is a low cost budget phone with customisation aimed at the "less geeky" market.
The next "Major Release" they release with Sense UI will probably have the next version of Sense running on a 2.0 backbone and with a larger screen similar to the HD2.

did you guys forget, the UI is freaking great! Why wouldn't they put it on every phone if so many G1 owners are struggling for a decent version. I want that cliq tho...

Ssantos6981 said:
did you guys forget, the UI is freaking great! Why wouldn't they put it on every phone if so many G1 owners are struggling for a decent version. I want that cliq tho...
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Eh, I'm not really a fan. I found that I was just using the widgets for the hell of it. Don't need mail or SMS, music widget always lags, twitter one would never refresh ect. The only widgets I really like are global search, power control, music and flip clock. All of which you can get on 1.6+. I also love Advanced Launcher, which has faunctionality that TouchFlo doesn't. Not to mention it's a friggin' resource hog. So yeah, I'd rather have more RAM available to keep my phone running faster, even if it did have he extra RAM the Hero and 32 A Magic have.

AdrianK said:
Eh, I'm not really a fan. I found that I was just using the widgets for the hell of it. Don't need mail or SMS, music widget always lags, twitter one would never refresh ect. The only widgets I really like are global search, power control, music and flip clock. All of which you can get on 1.6+. I also love Advanced Launcher, which has faunctionality that TouchFlo doesn't. Not to mention it's a friggin' resource hog. So yeah, I'd rather have more RAM available to keep my phone running faster, even if it did have he extra RAM the Hero and 32 A Magic have.
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I totally agree, I honestly don't know why people want sense so much, its just not very good in my opinion. You get very few usable upgrades in a trade off with it being much slower, I really don't see the point?
I'm due an upgrade soon and think I might get a hero, but if I do i'll probably root it and put a 2.0 stock based rom on it rather than sense!

Boonyard said:
I totally agree, I honestly don't know why people want sense so much, its just not very good in my opinion. You get very few usable upgrades in a trade off with it being much slower, I really don't see the point?
I'm due an upgrade soon and think I might get a hero, but if I do i'll probably root it and put a 2.0 stock based rom on it rather than sense!
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To be honest, I only wanted sense for the widgets and the music app. That was about it, other than that, I could care less about the UI. At the growth rate of android I'm sure custom UIs will be a thing of the past sooner or later.

Possibly Getting 2.2 Soon

I don't want to get peoples hopes up buuuuuuutttt-
Mytouch 3G to get 2.2 from next week and onwards.
Keep in mind that the Slide is a HTC sense device. If they have sense prepped and nearly ready for the Slide imagine where our update stands.
Keep in mind that 2.2 is a incremental update and not nearly such a huge leap as going from 1.5 1.6 to 2.1.

I'd agree. But the mytouch slide isn't a sense device...its got a custom t mobile UI. So no beans. It'll get here when it does. No worries.

From what I read on specs it does indeed include the sense ui. Otherwise I would not have bothered creating a thread.
Edit: I stand corrected. Darn. Other specs I looked up online listed the Sense UI. Looks like thats no longer the case.
The myTouch 3G Slide doesn't use HTC's Sense UI, but it doesn't really use stock Android, either. HTC and T-Mobile have made some subtle changes that make the Slide at least different from other Android handsets, if not more usable.
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I'm pretty sure it's a t-mobile influenced version of sense

Still, this its verizon we are talking about. They are notoriously slow at updating their phones

HTC Desire is rumored to get a 2.2 update at the end of June

Would love to see 2.2 on my INC but I'm not holding my breath on root

Didn't they(VZW) update the droid eris pretty quickly especially compared to sprint and the hero or maybe I'm bugging

seanhassars said:
I'm pretty sure it's a t-mobile influenced version of sense
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Correct, at its heart its Sense UI. All the Sense features work, T-Mo just got a hold of it and made it ugly, I mean I HATE that box crap around all the icons, it looks retarded

I would assume that T-Mobile just modified sense, and in order for them to produce an update they would need sense 2.2 from HTC. As such, I think it would be safe to also assume that HTC is preparing 2.2 for their other devices as well.

I just remember it taking ages for vzw to release the 2.1 update for the moto droid... And that is bone stock

[Q] Froyo + Sense restrictions on the Aria?

More than one web site describing the new HTC Gratia state that while it is running Froyo, it will not have the "new Sense UI". Is that because of limitations from the hardware?
I am still on my 30 day grace period with AT&T and got the Aria for two reasons - I hate the iPhone because this is what everyone seems to have and the Galaxy S is too big for my taste. Unfortunately I am stuck on AT&T but if the Aria is already showing limitations and is likely to run out of steam soon I may need to bite the bullet and get an iPhone 4... shudder.

Care to post a link to your source.
sent ftom my cm6 Intruder running CM6

GroovyGeek said:
More than one web site describing the new HTC Gratia state that while it is running Froyo, it will not have the "new Sense UI". Is that because of limitations from the hardware?
I am still on my 30 day grace period with AT&T and got the Aria for two reasons - I hate the iPhone because this is what everyone seems to have and the Galaxy S is too big for my taste. Unfortunately I am stuck on AT&T but if the Aria is already showing limitations and is likely to run out of steam soon I may need to bite the bullet and get an iPhone 4... shudder.
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First of all, no one knows for sure if the Gratia will come with the new Sense UI. People are ****ing freaking out over it like it's the end of the world.
Second of all, the phone is not "running out of steam".
"But, it's only 600mhz!" - Clock speeds do not matter much anymore...
"But, but but!" - shutup...
And anyway, if HTC decides to not officially support some new things there are people out there that can port/hack the phone to death to make it work flawlessly. Not a reliable way to look at the scenario but I don't care.
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After a quick research, is it even possible to run "old" Sense on android 2.2? On any phone? I didn't think any of the new HTC phones coming out with Android 2.2 had the "old" Sense UI - all have the "new" Sense UI.

I think by New Sense, they are talking about the version that's on the Desire HD and Desire Z (HTCSense.com and all that). Old Sense probably just means normal Sense, like what is currently on the EVO and other 2.2 phones.

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Second of all, the phone is not "running out of steam".
"But, it's only 600mhz!" - Clock speeds do not matter much anymore...
"But, but but!" - shutup...
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That right there was hella funny.
sent ftom my cm6 Intruder running CM6

Yeah, that's hella hilarity!!!

If this phone is running out of steam than the "big boy" android phones better be able to cook me dinner and tuck me in at night!
The only real restriction on this phone is the processor type not the speed ie will not work with flash due to flash not being coded for the processor in this phone, not a speed issue.

magic getting 2.2.1

i am outraged, i just saw on phandroid that the htc magic was getting 2.2.1 (without live wallpapers, wifi hotspot or flash player) so why is our hero not getting it? its more or less the same specification, just with sense, and we have already seen 2.1 with sense, so why are hTc not giving us hero owners an official froyo update?

Our Hero won't get it because HTC don't want to spend money developing the update, it wouldn't make sense financially to them. It is more or less the same specification with the exception of the Camera and RAM.

k0zmic said:
Our Hero won't get it because HTC don't want to spend money developing the update, it wouldn't make sense financially to them. It is more or less the same specification with the exception of the Camera and RAM.
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but surely they would have chosen our heros instead of the magic seeings as its better?

Also htc would have to develop a 2.2 sense that would work on the hero, which they see as way too much work. Face it, as far as HTC is concerned, the hero is dead and has. been for some times
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nellisere said:
but surely they would have chosen our heros instead of the magic seeings as its better?
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Nope, in their eyes the Hero has already been updated (to 2.1 from 1.5) whereas the Magic was on 1.6 I believe, so they were obliged to update it.

what are the chances of porting the magic 2.2.1 to the hero ?
the magic's hardware seems close to the hero.
same screen, same cpu same memory.
afaik it's the predecessor of the hero.
shouldn't that be a great thing for hero rom development ?

Why would you want to port it? There are tons of 2.2.1 roms available for the hero. Remember the magic isn't a sense 2.2, its a generic android 2.2, which as I say is availavailable in abundance on xda and similar sites
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SlurmMcKenzie said:
what are the chances of porting the magic 2.2.1 to the hero ?
the magic's hardware seems close to the hero.
same screen, same cpu same memory.
afaik it's the predecessor of the hero.
shouldn't that be a great thing for hero rom development ?
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Yep the hardware is extremely similar. It might be useful for Hero development, I think the developer's could use the drivers to optimize perhaps, but that's about it really.

Sense 3.0?

So a lot of ROMS are now offering sense 3.0, but is this the real sense 3.0 or is it just the widgets from it and the on-screen? I amusing synergy right now and it says under HTC Sense 2.1, so I'm kinda confused. Is it just this Rom that doesn't have the full sense 3.0 or is it standard that the ROMS only have the sense 3.0 widgets? Thanks
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Art2Fly said:
So a lot of ROMS are now offering sense 3.0, but is this the real sense 3.0 or is it just the widgets from it and the on-screen? I amusing synergy right now and it says under HTC Sense 2.1, so I'm kinda confused. Is it just this Rom that doesn't have the full sense 3.0 or is it standard that the ROMS only have the sense 3.0 widgets? Thanks
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Because the newer Sense versions take up more system resources and space people have made hybrids.

So basically, if sense 3.0 would be ported in its entirety it would bog down our phones? That doesnt sound good on HTC's part...

Art2Fly said:
So basically, if sense 3.0 would be ported in its entirety it would bog down our phones? That doesnt sound good on HTC's part...
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You wouldn't be able to fit many apps due to its size and yeah, it really wouldn't run very well without tweaking.
Not really "HTC's fault" as much as it is just progression of software.
The Evo is "old" technologically speaking.

Art2Fly said:
So basically, if sense 3.0 would be ported in its entirety it would bog down our phones? That doesnt sound good on HTC's part...
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That's why HTC hasn't released it for our phone. How is it their fault if the ports don't run as well on older hardware?

mattykinsx said:
You wouldn't be able to fit many apps due to its size and yeah, it really wouldn't run very well without tweaking.
Not really "HTC's fault" as much as it is just progression of software.
The Evo is "old" technologically speaking.
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this is true but it isnt even so much htc as it is sprint sprint and htc decided to not even give us official 2.1 sense which was pretty ****ing pathetic on their part lol

There are, from what some of the thread titles say, some pure 3.0 ROMs. Not sure how well they work or if they are %100 3.0. But like others said Synergy and MikG are 2.1 + 3.0 hybrid apparently based off the Evo Shift releases.