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Motorola Cliq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB4k9EqiWe4
T-Mobile is calling it the "first phone with social skills" because of it's facebook, twitter, and flicker integration. I guess the HTC Hero doesn't count.
But damn, the graphics on Motorola's flavor of Android are effing ugly. Not looking forward to this at all. Makes me appreciate Hero all that much more.

I actually really like the design, colors, and everything about it.
But the real question is, would all the available "Android Development" roms/rooting/themes...etc still work on the Motorola Cliq? Or do we have to wait until someone else makes it possible to root etc. the phone

Wouldn't work, the ways that we have now are htc based and with each new device there would have to be a different way of rooting based on the nature of the beast

Yeah but if you look at the hardware specs of the Cliq arent they practically the same as the HTC android phones...processor wise and what not?

saw this hours ago and im rly rly rly happy i've been a huge fan of motorola, first phone that i have was a c650 and i flashed it 'till it died ( joking ) but then i got a v360 and v3i and they were rly rly nice phones i still got 'em and now a moto v8 and all of this devices are good, not great but good and im rly happy that motorola has finally showed a great phone, with android, his own special ui ( motoblur ) and some really nice specs and im gonna get one of these cliq phones .
btw, sry if i misspelled something u.u or say something in the wrong ways, its just that im from argentina and well i do not speak english every day i speak spanish .

I can't believe you guys like this thing. The widgets look insanely cheeseball compared to the Hero. It's just a standard looking Android OS with some horrible looking widgets.
There is no trackball or call button either, and in the video, it doesn't even appear to run all that fast.
I don't see why this is a "next great move" in Android phones, I'm really disappointed, I expected something so much bigger as Android matures.

gigagrunt said:
Yeah but if you look at the hardware specs of the Cliq arent they practically the same as the HTC android phones...processor wise and what not?
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/10/android-battle-cliq-edition/

vr24 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB4k9EqiWe4
T-Mobile is calling it the "first phone with social skills" because of it's facebook, twitter, and flicker integration. I guess the HTC Hero doesn't count.
But damn, the graphics on Motorola's flavor of Android are effing ugly. Not looking forward to this at all. Makes me appreciate Hero all that much more.
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its the first phone with social skills for tmobile US

be nice to see some of these things incorporated into cyna

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its the first phone with social skills for tmobile US
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While that may be technically true, T-Mobile UK has the Hero.
It's still just kind of lame, overall. It's not faster, still has almost no built in storage, it seems to bring almost nothing to the table other than some poorly designed widgets.
However, I think the real test will be how much it sells for. If T-Mobile gets this in at a $49.99 or less price point, then it's not really that bad. Ultimately I think I'd just like to see a lot more Android phones hitting the hands of users.

trevordbs said:
be nice to see some of these things incorporated into cyna
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Most likely cyan or another dev will port the entire thing over. We won't know until they get their hands on it.
For instance, Cyan can't add the HTC widgets and specific features to the Hero, as they rely on the HTC Framework, which can't be ported to another ROM.
We won't know if Motorola's is as locked down until we have it.
However, the good news is, the specs for the device are the same as the G1 - so it should run perfectly fine on the G1 hardware. Which I guess is kind of nice that we can continue to use our phones for a long time with the latest Android releases

Engadget hands on
I really like how Motorola has gone even further than HTC with social network integration (universal inbox, contact list, etc.). The widgets do look a little disappointing though.
Unfortunately, it looks like it runs a little slow (aren't some hero builds running faster on G1's right now?) but hopefully the software will be optimized when it's actually released.
Now for someone to get a system dump and port to the Dream...

I think this OS is sweet, a nice break from the same things weve been staring at for the past 8 months.
And despite the hate for the widgets, I think they're pretty damn sweet. Whoever was stating that the Hero had issues with its widgets running smoothly with the same specs has to realize that its probably because of how the software was written.
I'm pretty sure Motorola took that into account after hearing the horror stories about HTC.

vr24 said:
While that may be technically true, T-Mobile UK has the Hero.
It's still just kind of lame, overall. It's not faster, still has almost no built in storage, it seems to bring almost nothing to the table other than some poorly designed widgets.
However, I think the real test will be how much it sells for. If T-Mobile gets this in at a $49.99 or less price point, then it's not really that bad. Ultimately I think I'd just like to see a lot more Android phones hitting the hands of users.
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They run as 2 completely separate companies though. (T-Mobile US and T-Mobile UK). Nothing that TMUS does effects the UK and vice versa.
T-Mobile UK is soon to merge with Orange UK... Both of which provide the Hero lol.

Senorkabob said:
I think this OS is sweet, a nice break from the same things weve been staring at for the past 8 months.
And despite the hate for the widgets, I think they're pretty damn sweet. Whoever was stating that the Hero had issues with its widgets running smoothly with the same specs has to realize that its probably because of how the software was written.
I'm pretty sure Motorola took that into account after hearing the horror stories about HTC.
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I agree and it's great that we are finally seeing some different flavours or android... something which makes android so unique, you can pick something different yet experience the same apps etc as everyone else.
I can't wait to see more of Sony Ericsson's interface and no doubt Samsung and LG will be working on their own aswell. I really wish Nokia would get on board though!

brummiesteven said:
I agree and it's great that we are finally seeing some different flavours or android... something which makes android so unique, you can pick something different yet experience the same apps etc as everyone else.
I can't wait to see more of Sony Ericsson's interface and no doubt Samsung and LG will be working on their own aswell. I really wish Nokia would get on board though!
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Nokia's putting out their N900 with Maemo 5 interface. It's coming to T-mo US, and I have to admit... I'm VERY interested! That being said, I love Android and it's a key time for the OS right now. Any broadening of the foundation of the Android footprint is good. Higher end phones will build on that foundation.

Gross! The widgets are ugly and rely on the use of outside sources (facebook, twitter, MYSPACE) who even uses Myspace these days?
This is a good addition if you're interested in being even more creepy with up to the second information about your "friends".
I'm dissapointed.

Nokia's putting out their N900 with Maemo 5 interface. It's coming to T-mo US, and I have to admit... I'm VERY interested! That being said, I love Android and it's a key time for the OS right now. Any broadening of the foundation of the Android footprint is good. Higher end phones will build on that foundation.
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The N900 looks sick... but expect it to be 50000000% more than the Cliq lol

i agree that the widgets look kind of boring but having them up there is up to you.
im getting this phone thought because i got my mytouch for free so i have nothing to lose.

vr24 said:
While that may be technically true, T-Mobile UK has the Hero.
It's still just kind of lame, overall. It's not faster, still has almost no built in storage, it seems to bring almost nothing to the table other than some poorly designed widgets.
However, I think the real test will be how much it sells for. If T-Mobile gets this in at a $49.99 or less price point, then it's not really that bad. Ultimately I think I'd just like to see a lot more Android phones hitting the hands of users.
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actually it is true... tmobile US and tmobile UK are different companies with different plans and offerings. i.e. a lot of tmobile UK smartphones are free under certain circumstances.
and plus the moto cliq supposed to be priced around $99.

[Q] Froyo + Sense restrictions on the Aria?

More than one web site describing the new HTC Gratia state that while it is running Froyo, it will not have the "new Sense UI". Is that because of limitations from the hardware?
I am still on my 30 day grace period with AT&T and got the Aria for two reasons - I hate the iPhone because this is what everyone seems to have and the Galaxy S is too big for my taste. Unfortunately I am stuck on AT&T but if the Aria is already showing limitations and is likely to run out of steam soon I may need to bite the bullet and get an iPhone 4... shudder.

Care to post a link to your source.
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GroovyGeek said:
More than one web site describing the new HTC Gratia state that while it is running Froyo, it will not have the "new Sense UI". Is that because of limitations from the hardware?
I am still on my 30 day grace period with AT&T and got the Aria for two reasons - I hate the iPhone because this is what everyone seems to have and the Galaxy S is too big for my taste. Unfortunately I am stuck on AT&T but if the Aria is already showing limitations and is likely to run out of steam soon I may need to bite the bullet and get an iPhone 4... shudder.
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First of all, no one knows for sure if the Gratia will come with the new Sense UI. People are ****ing freaking out over it like it's the end of the world.
Second of all, the phone is not "running out of steam".
"But, it's only 600mhz!" - Clock speeds do not matter much anymore...
"But, but but!" - shutup...
And anyway, if HTC decides to not officially support some new things there are people out there that can port/hack the phone to death to make it work flawlessly. Not a reliable way to look at the scenario but I don't care.
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After a quick research, is it even possible to run "old" Sense on android 2.2? On any phone? I didn't think any of the new HTC phones coming out with Android 2.2 had the "old" Sense UI - all have the "new" Sense UI.

I think by New Sense, they are talking about the version that's on the Desire HD and Desire Z (HTCSense.com and all that). Old Sense probably just means normal Sense, like what is currently on the EVO and other 2.2 phones.

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Second of all, the phone is not "running out of steam".
"But, it's only 600mhz!" - Clock speeds do not matter much anymore...
"But, but but!" - shutup...
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That right there was hella funny.
sent ftom my cm6 Intruder running CM6

Yeah, that's hella hilarity!!!

If this phone is running out of steam than the "big boy" android phones better be able to cook me dinner and tuck me in at night!
The only real restriction on this phone is the processor type not the speed ie will not work with flash due to flash not being coded for the processor in this phone, not a speed issue.

[Q] Expresso UI.

Is the expresso ui 2.2 on the myotuch 4g reall that bad? ive read that alot of people are bashing it saying its the worst. i myean if people hate it, why buy the phone? my question is if expresso (performance wise, not how it looks) really a issue with such a great phone?

I doubt there's any problem with it performance-wise. Watching all the video reviews so far and none of them mentioned anything about the phone being slow.
It's all personal preference. I actually don't mind it.

Ghost430 said:
Is the expresso ui 2.2 on the myotuch 4g reall that bad? ive read that alot of people are bashing it saying its the worst. i myean if people hate it, why buy the phone? my question is if expresso (performance wise, not how it looks) really a issue with such a great phone?
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If you really hate it you have the option of adding a launcher from the market. ADW or Launcher Pro, should run very smoothly on this phone, as it seems to have speed to spare. I can't imagine a launcher app, causing much lag on this phone.

Ghost430 said:
Is the expresso ui 2.2 on the myotuch 4g reall that bad? ive read that alot of people are bashing it saying its the worst. i myean if people hate it, why buy the phone? my question is if expresso (performance wise, not how it looks) really a issue with such a great phone?
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It's pretty dang good, and includes a variety of diverse themes to customize the look quite a bit. I generally preferred vanilla Froyo over that of HTC Sense, but I think I prefer mySense over everything else.

I won't lie to you this sense version is kinda cool. I'm not a sense fan but this is not intrusive at all. I might still put launcher pro on it since I paid for it. But stock it is nice.
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I purchased the T-Mobile MyTouch 4G, (black version) today. There was a line waiting for the store to open. As far as T-Mobile's version of HTC Sense, i like it too... but i hope at some point though to be able to install a version of the OS that has the new version of HTC Sense, without the T-Mobile branding, and limitations...

Ghost430 said:
Is the expresso ui 2.2 on the myotuch 4g reall that bad? ive read that alot of people are bashing it saying its the worst. i myean if people hate it, why buy the phone? my question is if expresso (performance wise, not how it looks) really a issue with such a great phone?
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People around here have a false belief that "stock android" is "awesome" when in reality it's one of the more bland boring and barebones oses on any phone out there.
The only people who persue "stock" are masochists who feel the need to spend hours upon hours introducing all the features that carriers and mfgs add anyway.
When they see a "skin" they think bloat like you would on a dell.

of course im gonna get launcher pro or something. customization is the main reason im getting my first android. i just dont want to get some ui thatll give me problems or never get gingerbread (im ok with it takong awhile to get it). i loved the stock on the g2 but that keyboard issue is somethingi hate and i might not use

HD2 owners...S2 Touchwiz vs Sensation Sense

Hi peeps...
As an HD2 owner at end of contract. One is in a quandry. I wanted S2 on Three AYCE... but now having second thoughts.
S2 excellent spec but looking at videos on youtube, touchwiz looks a little old, like old windows mobile 6, bit basic looking.
Sensation, lower specs but running sense. If it it works well I wont be bothered about rooting.
HD2 owners who have jumped on the Galaxy bandwagon, do you feel the integration of the calendar etc is less flash than Senses' integration etc?
Also, ideally i wanted to get a new phone before my honeymoon at end of the month. So not much time.
Early adopters of S2 are starting to complain about various things, and it's making me waiver. I've been running vanilla android on HD2 so have forgotten alot about Sense, but remembered it looked nice and well integrated.
Currently thinking of getting the htc on a cheap contract or buy, then buy a 3 AYCE sim to use with it. Decisions decisions!
Your thoughts...?

I had desire hd and i prefere touchwiz that sense, few bits id like to change on here but overall it isn't too bad, social hubs need to be removed "that's a must", i wouldn't say its like windows no way.
Havent tried sense 3.0 so couldn't compare.
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I guess the only way to decide is to pop down to the local 3 store and have a play. Big decision, will have it for a long time.

You do know there such things as launchers that easily replace the stock touchwiz, blur etc.
Just install it and you are good to go.

MaxReality said:
HD2 owners who have jumped on the Galaxy bandwagon, do you feel the integration of the calendar etc is less flash than Senses' integration etc?
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My S2 didn't turn up today (should tomorrow), so I can't say on a day-to-day usage. But if you're in doubt then drop by a store somewhere if you can, and ask to have a play with a demo unit. You can't really test integration *properly* but it should give you an idea of what it's like.
As mentioned, you can try out other home launchers (ADW Launcher and Launcher Pro are two considered among the best) to see if you like any of them as an alternative to TouchWiz (or Sense).

Get whichever phone you actually want - as others have said, just replace the stock launchers if you dont like them - plenty of choice there.
Also - might not be a good idea to get the new phone just before your honeymoon, your mrs might not appreciate you having a second honeymoon period at the same time

There's more to it than the launchers in sense. Their own apps, and then the nice widgets they provide for you. A launcher just simply can't offer you the full experience.
Anyways on topic. Well personally I wouldn't even think of choosing the sensation due to the measely 1 gb rom. Now 512 on the HD2 was bad enough, but 1gb? And the fact that sense 3.0 is even bigger than other sense versions, so how much space do we actually have for apps? I know we have ways of "expanding storage", but a flagship shouldn't even require us to be doing such. And sense? Am I really going to let sense get in the way of me getting the best speced device out there? With the best screen? Or even best camera (who knows, I can say that sensation won't be packing a "wow" camera since it's HTC)?
Well that's all I can think of.

MaxReality said:
I guess the only way to decide is to pop down to the local 3 store and have a play. Big decision, will have it for a long time.
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That is the smart thing to do...ultimatelly it will come down to your own preference. If you are used to Sense, you may not feel like changing...but then again, you might be curious to try something new/different...not necessarily better or worse.

Yeah recently changed from Mdeejays CM7 to BoyPPC and impressed with the LP sense bits. Might pre-order the sensation and in the meantime checkout the s2, if the Sensation does arrive around the 19th, I will have time to decide which I prefer, and presume I can return the Sensation. No PAYG tariff with VF though. Still want the 3 mobile AYCE.

MaxReality said:
Hi peeps...
As an HD2 owner at end of contract. One is in a quandry. I wanted S2 on Three AYCE... but now having second thoughts.
S2 excellent spec but looking at videos on youtube, touchwiz looks a little old, like old windows mobile 6, bit basic looking.
Sensation, lower specs but running sense. If it it works well I wont be bothered about rooting.
HD2 owners who have jumped on the Galaxy bandwagon, do you feel the integration of the calendar etc is less flash than Senses' integration etc?
Also, ideally i wanted to get a new phone before my honeymoon at end of the month. So not much time.
Early adopters of S2 are starting to complain about various things, and it's making me waiver. I've been running vanilla android on HD2 so have forgotten alot about Sense, but remembered it looked nice and well integrated.
Currently thinking of getting the htc on a cheap contract or buy, then buy a 3 AYCE sim to use with it. Decisions decisions!
Your thoughts...?
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I would say the intergration on Sense is better. Like you i've been running a Vanilla ROM on my HD2 and it seems to work a lot faster. I use Launcher Pro which is good.
Touch Wiz is o.k but i've not had a proper play with it. The specs alone for the SGS2 make me want to get the phone!! Hopefully I should have one tomorrow.
I tried a pre production model of the Sensation at the Gadget Show Live. Nice phone.

Threes AYCE is good, and there signal (for me at least) is the best in my area thusly their speeds are amazing (2mbps)....but 24m contract...gets thumbs down from me
I like to upgrade my phone every 6 months so in having an 18 month contract, 1 in every 3 times i get a free phone. If i was on a 24m it would be 1 in every 4 phones....if you get what im sayin

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Threes AYCE is good, and there signal (for me at least) is the best in my area thusly their speeds are amazing (2mbps)....but 24m contract...gets thumbs down from me
I like to upgrade my phone every 6 months so in having an 18 month contract, 1 in every 3 times i get a free phone. If i was on a 24m it would be 1 in every 4 phones....if you get what im sayin
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12 month Sim Only AYCE for £25 is pretty good.

Kailkti said:
Well personally I wouldn't even think of choosing the sensation due to the measely 1 gb rom. Now 512 on the HD2 was bad enough, but 1gb? And the fact that sense 3.0 is even bigger than other sense versions, so how much space do we actually have for apps?
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Doesn't the Sensation have 786 mb ram, and 4 gb rom, but only 1 gb of which is available to the user? 2 gb is reserved for apps and the other 1 gb is for sense, etc? I'll try and find out where i read this. I might have got it confused with the evo 3d, possibly.
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I was in the same position deciding whether to go with the S2 or Sensation however I was due an upgrade now and would never jump from O2 to Vodafone due to the poor reception I get in my area, nothing comes close to O2. Anyway I ended up getting the S2 as there's no official release date for the sensation on O2 or any other carriers except for June which is ages away. I will definitely be having a look at the sensation and if I like it that much I'll sell the S2 and get one as I have Sense 2.1 on my HD2 and love it, makes Touchwiz look a little plain and boring.
In the meantime I'll be trying out other launchers as I've done with web browsers as the standard S2 browser is pretty poor always defaulting to mobile user agent every use even after selecting desktop. I'm using Dolphin HD and it's really good so far.
I'm definitely missing Sense at the moment just for all the widgets, SMS, friendstream and music the most and then there's the screen layout, home should always be the middle not far left lol. I'm still giving Touchwiz a chance as it's definitely not as bad as I first thought from seeing it in the reviews.
Personally other than Sense I actually liked the bulk and feel of the HD2 also which I'm sure the Sensation will be similar to as the S2 is a little light and there's not alot to it.
You wouldn't be dissappointed with the S2 that's for sure it's a beast of a phone and I'm getting used to the "quirks" I'm not a fan of so I'm sure you could adapt likewise and with the right development support I'm sure there'll be customisations left, right and centre to make it that little bit better

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Doesn't the Sensation have 786 mb ram, and 4 gb rom, but only 1 gb of which is available to the user? 2 gb is reserved for apps and the other 1 gb is for sense, etc? I'll try and find out where i read this. I might have got it confused with the evo 3d, possibly.
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Yeah specs put me off too. But, if the screen allows to read web pages, like the iphone4, then that is a good bonus. Same with reading pdf's, the standard res of HD2 and possibly sg2, means small writing is blurred, again, will be interesting to test the sg2 in the shop.
re: memory, I believe its 4gb: 3gb for whatever and 1gb for user storage.
Recording 1080p, surely you need alot of storage memory, like sg2. htc=fail.

From what I see on GSMarena, it's 1 gb. For the evo 3d it's 4gb storage with 1gb ram.

i've been using htc desire for a year and though i like sense, i haven't really missed it since getting sgs2. sure touch wiz is not as good and the dock looks too much like iphone to my liking but there are so many decent launchers out there in the market which are as good as sense. its the hardware of sgs2 which makes this phone standout and even my iphone friends are well impressed by the screen and the smoothness of the phone.

Still not got hands on gs2 but now waivering to Sensation due to display resolution. Vodafone retentions reckon they will have it 16 to 19th May and will be Sim Unlocked. Will checkout gs2 this weekend. Either way, getting one 12month AYCE on 3mobile sim only.
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From what I see on GSMarena, it's 1 gb. For the evo 3d it's 4gb storage with 1gb ram.
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I just googled "HTC sensation internal memory" and half the results say 1 gb and the other half says 4 gb
I prefer sense over touchwiz any day myself, but i've got to admit, i'm leaning to the SGS 2 purely on hardware alone. Which some might say is a bit naive, i guess.
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The new Sense 3.0 looked really good from what I saw, but ultimately I decided to go for the S II as it looked a much nicer phone and specs wise it seemed better, discounting screen resolution. I mainly used LauncherPro previously and as TouchWiz wasn't really very good I switched over.
Henco

Going to back to EVO, tried the Nexus-S 4G

Well after almost a week with the new Sprint Nexus-S 4G, I plan to return it and get my EVO going again. My EVO was rooted with the best Sense based ROM, "Myn's RS 5" I still think the EVO 4G is one of the better smartphones on the market ( if rooted, and good ROM installed ) even a year after it's release, and the EVO-3D should be even better yet.
I wanted the Nexus for the lightweight form factor, and easy fit in pocket...beautiful screen...and better battery life.
Well a week later I can NOT stand "vanilla" Android, didn't realize how much I took "Sense UI" for granted, basic Android feels so, uh basic, and years outdated. I mean come on the default Voice mail is to call a phone # to access messages, lol that's from the 90's man. The dialer and contacts also seem super basic and like iPhone1 or Android 1.5, and the default e-mail for non gmail is horrible, the standard e-mail widget on the EVO is perfect, and ten million times better.
So many things on "vanilla" Android just seems to be done so poorly and outdated, makes me wonder what people like about ? I know it is meant to be tweaked and played with, and add all your own custom apps and widgets, but that is stupid to me, that is just saying stock Android sucks.
Plus the battery life on my Nexus-S is not stellar like expected, sure it is better than my EVO, but barely, and the screen is actually harder to see outside in the sunlight.
Will go back to my EVO 4G, and upgrade to the EVO-2 ( 3d ), can only imagine a Myn's based ROM on that beast, with Android 2.3...dual cores...1gb memory...4gb storage...higher res screen...
Only thing I don't like on the EVO is it's thick and bulky size, it is borderline just too heavy, and big, not the 4.3" screen, I mean look at the new Galaxy S-2, that is 4.3 but super thin and lightweight, wish HTC could slim it down a bit.
Opinions ?

To each their own, I guess. I haven't tried the Nexus and don't plan to get one. I'm holding out hope we'll get we'll get the Galaxy S 2. I prefer AOSP over Sense. Sense feels gaudy to me and forces an aesthetic I don't care for. I like a lean, minimalistic approach that I can customize and make my own.
Either way. Welcome back.

You know you can put different ROMs on the Nexus S right?
I won't go with the Nexus S because it doesn't have a notification led [RETARDED] and because it's a minor bump from the Evo [not worth the loss of an upgrade] but it seems like most of your issue is the ROM itself.

Unfortunately, I read on the EVO 3D forum that if Myn can't get his hands on an EVO 3D for the upgrade price, he probably won't be devving for it. He technically doesn't qualify for an upgrade yet I believe.
So...hey, donate some money so he can buy one I guess or figure out a way to get him one for the upgrade price.

halorin said:
To each their own, I guess. I haven't tried the Nexus and don't plan to get one. I'm holding out hope we'll get we'll get the Galaxy S 2. I prefer AOSP over Sense. Sense feels gaudy to me and forces an aesthetic I don't care for. I like a lean, minimalistic approach that I can customize and make my own.
Either way. Welcome back.
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That's what Myn's ROM "Warmtwopointtwo" is for, it is still "Sense" based, but gets rid of all the crapware and bloatware, and streamlines everything in the background, just keeping the core "Sense" stuff. It is a very clean and stripped down look, and then can still be themed and customized to your hearts content.

sidepart said:
Unfortunately, I read on the EVO 3D forum that if Myn can't get his hands on an EVO 3D for the upgrade price, he probably won't be devving for it. He technically doesn't qualify for an upgrade yet I believe.
So...hey, donate some money so he can buy one I guess or figure out a way to get him one for the upgrade price.
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hmm...I am surprised on this forum, there isn't a Sprint rep that can cut Myn a deal, get him one for the upgrade price and not pay full retail ? I thought after one year you can upgrade to a new phone by renewing on a new 2yr contract and get the phone for the $199 price ? And usually most people have a $150 gift certificate by staying with Sprint after like 10 months, I know I got one.

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That's what Myn's ROM "Warmtwopointtwo" is for, it is still "Sense" based, but gets rid of all the crapware and bloatware, and streamlines everything in the background, just keeping the core "Sense" stuff. It is a very clean and stripped down look, and then can still be themed and customized to your hearts content.
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I've tried it before. It by far is my favorite Sense rom, but I still prefer AOSP roms.

halorin said:
I've tried it before. It by far is my favorite Sense rom, but I still prefer AOSP roms.
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So whats the best AOSP ROM ? CM 7 ?
Wish Cyanogen 7 was ready for the Nexus-S 4G, but they say have to wait for CM 7.1 that has official support for 2.3.4 that is on the Sprint Nexus-S.

I also got the nexus s two days ago and to be honest I love it. It a lot slimmer and lighter than the evo and it actually does not feel like its bulky in the pocket. The screen it very nice, but at times it seems a little oversaturated. Even thou it's got a 5mp camera it takes great pics and the video recording it's pretty good as well, granted it's not recording at 720p. Overall I am really enjoying a smaller phone ( didn't realize the evo was so massive compared to other phones) and hope that sprint gets a dual core 4 inch phone. I was saving my upgrade for the evo 3d but after having the nexus s I might just keep this and skip the evo 3d. Hopefully there will be a nexus 3 by the end of the year?? who knows.
in caparison to the evo;
...stock vanilla is just fine for me, straight to the point. Battery has lasting longer than the evo, nexus s does not have notification led but there is an app called "noled" which has been working just fine, love the phone design.
To be honest the evo is capable of doing everything i ever needed from a phone, and so does the nexus s ( but better for gaming) but with new and bigger tech coming out every 6months you always feel like you "need" the latest. So far the thing I'm really enjoying about the nexus is the size, it feels like the perfect size.

Zorachus said:
So whats the best AOSP ROM ? CM 7 ?
Wish Cyanogen 7 was ready for the Nexus-S 4G, but they say have to wait for CM 7.1 that has official support for 2.3.4 that is on the Sprint Nexus-S.
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I've been using Deck's AOSP rom. There's a link to it in the Android Development forums. I use 1.0 because GB 2.3.4 roms have a MMS issue. I use Savages Zen BFS 2.1.0. You may like it.
CM7 has been unusually shaky, consider their track record. I have hope 7.1 will being more stable than the past releases.

Zorachus said:
hmm...I am surprised on this forum, there isn't a Sprint rep that can cut Myn a deal, get him one for the upgrade price and not pay full retail ? I thought after one year you can upgrade to a new phone by renewing on a new 2yr contract and get the phone for the $199 price ? And usually most people have a $150 gift certificate by staying with Sprint after like 10 months, I know I got one.
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UT OH! Someone hasn't been paying much attention for the last three months...

I was almost going to get Nexus. Glad I didn't. EVO 3d will be beast.
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I feel the opposite I'm keeping the nexus
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here's wishing there was a 'you must be borderline MR' button...
you do realize you can put almost whatever UI you want on almost any android phone, right?

halorin said:
CM7 has been unusually shaky, consider their track record. I have hope 7.1 will being more stable than the past releases.
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I agree. CM is the only thing that makes AOSP any good. Without it, it does kinda suck. Unfortunately, CM hasn't been very good for me since CM6, forcing me to go back to Sense.

timothydonohue said:
here's wishing there was a 'you must be borderline MR' button...
you do realize you can put almost whatever UI you want on almost any android phone, right?
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Try putting a Sense based ROM or UI on my Nexus-S, there is only one that I know of, and it is in beta, with a lot of features still not working. Don't know of any other "Sense UI" for the Nexus-S ?
Nice thing with Sense based phones, is they get the Sense ROM's of course, but also can easily install the AOSP ROM's too.

Watch this good hands on video of the new EVO 3D, mainly showing off Sense 3.0, which I what I wanted to see more of, I could give two ****s about the 3D on the phone. Actually I wish Sprint sold two versions, the "Sensation" non 3D version is slightly thinner, but exact same hardware.
But Sense 3.0 looks very ncie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emdKBaC9sao&feature=related

Lol that video is like us trying to get Virus's rom to work right

Eh, it's only boring if you have no imagination and/or no ability to make things how you want them.
Vanilla android does one thing nicely, that's let you do anything you want. ADW and themes is a great example of that. I'm on AOSP right now and here's my homescreen, you may not like it, but if you don't think you could have made it how you wanted then you just didn't want to try. This is why we like Android over iOS, because we have freedom of expression, not conformity to look like everyone else's.

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Eh, it's only boring if you have no imagination and/or no ability to make things how you want them.
Vanilla android does one thing nicely, that's let you do anything you want. ADW and themes is a great example of that. I'm on AOSP right now and here's my homescreen, you may not like it, but if you don't think you could have made it how you wanted then you just didn't want to try. This is why we like Android over iOS, because we have freedom of expression, not conformity to look like everyone else's.
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So when I click your image on my evo is that the difference in screen size to scale? Or has the size of the image been reduced a bit?