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This is so dumb why is htc puting sense on every phone?

Why not just give it to hero and leave it at that?Now verizon got there gruubby little hands on sense but why have two androids released at the same time.Sprint has the hero but the the distinctive looking version the chinless one.The tmo Us got 3 android phones but they arent as good as the competition though.Now the hero is no longer uniquie since all these look alike are getting the touch up.

You do know that there are over 20 android phones slated to come out in the next 6-8 months, right? The hero isnt unique anyway. We've had hero roms running on the G1 since before the hero even had a US release.

yep its now just part of a series of clones..

Yeah I'm not really a fan of Sense UI, it has a couple of cool widgets but it's such a resource hog. Even if I had a Hero with the extra RAM I'd still use the regular launcher, but that's just me.

Ace42 said:
Why not just give it to hero and leave it at that?Now verizon got there gruubby little hands on sense but why have two androids released at the same time.Sprint has the hero but the the distinctive looking version the chinless one.The tmo Us got 3 android phones but they arent as good as the competition though.Now the hero is no longer uniquie since all these look alike are getting the touch up.
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well sense ui is very visually appealing and adds function compared to phones running regular android. why keep sense ui only on hero...its htcs own custom ui so they should be able to do what they want.
plus the hero will just end up being a dud...a prototype for sense ui and see where they can improve upon..just like the g1...and the extra ram really does help with speed and multitasking.
and besides companies custom UIs is only included on phone without the 'with google" branding..(sprint hero is an exception)

Lol, that reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS7qVjr1Vps
OMG, why did HTC port sense to other Phones!, YOU WILL PAY HTC, whaaa, whaaa, I wanted exclusive!!!!
Dude, seriously...

Why do you care ?
Frankly I want to see Android do well. Why do I care if other Android phones get anothers UI ? All I care about is handset makers putting top grade hardware for these things.
In a forum much dedicated to importing UIs and Apps from other phones pretty damn ignorant to get upset about this.

i use sense on my g1 just wanted ur opinions since there are so many clones released now

Ace42 said:
i use sense on my g1 just wanted ur opinions since there are so many clones released now
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they arent clones...tattoo has 1.6
even so, they arent clones..thats like saying two different dell laptops are clones because they both run windows 7

Sense is pretty much HTC's version or "Branch" of android much like Ubuntu is to
Debian (although not as different).
All HTC Phones with sense offer something different.
The Hero is an "All Rounder" (At the moment)
The Tattoo is a low cost budget phone with customisation aimed at the "less geeky" market.
The next "Major Release" they release with Sense UI will probably have the next version of Sense running on a 2.0 backbone and with a larger screen similar to the HD2.

did you guys forget, the UI is freaking great! Why wouldn't they put it on every phone if so many G1 owners are struggling for a decent version. I want that cliq tho...

Ssantos6981 said:
did you guys forget, the UI is freaking great! Why wouldn't they put it on every phone if so many G1 owners are struggling for a decent version. I want that cliq tho...
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Eh, I'm not really a fan. I found that I was just using the widgets for the hell of it. Don't need mail or SMS, music widget always lags, twitter one would never refresh ect. The only widgets I really like are global search, power control, music and flip clock. All of which you can get on 1.6+. I also love Advanced Launcher, which has faunctionality that TouchFlo doesn't. Not to mention it's a friggin' resource hog. So yeah, I'd rather have more RAM available to keep my phone running faster, even if it did have he extra RAM the Hero and 32 A Magic have.

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Eh, I'm not really a fan. I found that I was just using the widgets for the hell of it. Don't need mail or SMS, music widget always lags, twitter one would never refresh ect. The only widgets I really like are global search, power control, music and flip clock. All of which you can get on 1.6+. I also love Advanced Launcher, which has faunctionality that TouchFlo doesn't. Not to mention it's a friggin' resource hog. So yeah, I'd rather have more RAM available to keep my phone running faster, even if it did have he extra RAM the Hero and 32 A Magic have.
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I totally agree, I honestly don't know why people want sense so much, its just not very good in my opinion. You get very few usable upgrades in a trade off with it being much slower, I really don't see the point?
I'm due an upgrade soon and think I might get a hero, but if I do i'll probably root it and put a 2.0 stock based rom on it rather than sense!

Boonyard said:
I totally agree, I honestly don't know why people want sense so much, its just not very good in my opinion. You get very few usable upgrades in a trade off with it being much slower, I really don't see the point?
I'm due an upgrade soon and think I might get a hero, but if I do i'll probably root it and put a 2.0 stock based rom on it rather than sense!
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To be honest, I only wanted sense for the widgets and the music app. That was about it, other than that, I could care less about the UI. At the growth rate of android I'm sure custom UIs will be a thing of the past sooner or later.

MT3G Owners: With Google - Why?

Alright guys, I'm a relatively new android user owning the MT3G since the day it came out. As it stands, I'm pretty confused with google's branding and partnership with my device. As it stands, even though I have a "with google" device, I don't receive updates for their operating system first, they only go to the highest bidder or newest tech despite the fact that my phone is less than 3 months old. I don't receive any special updates other than the updates everyone else gets as well. All of the applications "with google" are available free from the market. My "with google" version has 100+mb less ram than the normal HTC Magic. HTC offers their customers the Sense UI. Motorola entices customers with Blur. Google customers get... nothing. For the life of me, I cannot figure out why any customer after doing some research, would want to have a "google experience" phone. So far, my personal experience has been: With Google = **** you.
To me it just seems like an expensive name drop and a lubeless fist to their customers, or am I just completely missing all the amazing features of my google device?

you (should) get OTA updates ... devices which dont have the "with Google" dont and need to wipe for every update (and there is no 1.6 for HTC magic ...)

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Alright guys, I'm a relatively new android user owning the MT3G since the day it came out. As it stands, I'm pretty confused with google's branding and partnership with my device. As it stands, even though I have a "with google" device, I don't receive updates for their operating system first, they only go to the highest bidder or newest tech despite the fact that my phone is less than 3 months old. I don't receive any special updates other than the updates everyone else gets as well. All of the applications "with google" are available free from the market. My "with google" version has 100+mb less ram than the normal HTC Magic. HTC offers their customers the Sense UI. Motorola entices customers with Blur. Google customers get... nothing. For the life of me, I cannot figure out why any customer after doing some research, would want to have a "google experience" phone. So far, my personal experience has been: With Google = **** you.
To me it just seems like an expensive name drop and a lubeless fist to their customers, or am I just completely missing all the amazing features of my google device?
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Btw the Verizon Hero has the 'with google' branding and it has Sense UI, so I'm not sure that 'with google' really means anything on Android phones. It certainly does not make them exclusive in any way.

Its not google that youre pissed at its "Teen-Mobile". They had the first Android (g1) over a year ago. It took them an entire year to release the MT3G, that means it took them an entire year to add a small amount of internal memory, and NO ram. thats the only improvement they could manage.
I feel your pain, its pretty embarrassing to be with a company who's third and "best" Android, the culmination of over a year of work is still literally worse, according to hardware and overall capability than ANY of their competitor's Android phones.
Im pretty sure they cut the ram by a third because they knew that they had the Cliq coming out after the MT3G, and it has 256mb ram so if they didnt screw the MT3G then the Cliq wouldnt have much to make it an improvement. I not sure what TMO's angle is but it definitely isnt consumer friendly

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you (should) get OTA updates ... devices which dont have the "with Google" dont and need to wipe for every update (and there is no 1.6 for HTC magic ...)
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i beg to differ i have 1.6 on mytouch aka HTC magic

sim-value said:
you (should) get OTA updates ... devices which dont have the "with Google" dont and need to wipe for every update (and there is no 1.6 for HTC magic ...)
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The "with Google" has nothing to do with if you get OTA updates or not. OTA updates depend on the carrier. Some Sprint Heros have the "with Google" branding, but it will not receive OTA updates, instead they have to update it through computer because Sprint doesn't send OTA updates, so I've heard.
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i beg to differ i have 1.6 on mytouch aka HTC magic
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Actually, the mytouch and htc magic are different, that's why we have 32a and 32b roms and not to be hurtful or anything but he did say the devices that don't have the "with Google " dont get ota updates and last time I checked, the mytouch has it and the HTC Magic doesn't.

Im not concerned about the absence of sense ui or motoblur, because i like the vanilla android the most.
Im more concerned, as you are, about the lack of updates for android. It's really weird that they cant come up with some sort of standard making it possible to update an androidphone like magic to 2.0. Noone knows if 2.0 will come to magic. Thats what concerns me.

Im not concerned about the absence of sense ui or motoblur, because i like the vanilla android the most.
Im more concerned, as you are, about the lack of updates for android. It's really weird that they cant come up with some sort of standard making it possible to update an androidphone like magic to 2.0. Noone knows if 2.0 will come to magic. Thats what concerns me.

If anything, 2.0 should come to the magic because it has enough space. Phones with custom UIs will have to wait, since the UIs will also need to be updated.

Anartic said:
The "with Google" has nothing to do with if you get OTA updates or not. OTA updates depend on the carrier. Some Sprint Heros have the "with Google" branding, but it will not receive OTA updates, instead they have to update it through computer because Sprint doesn't send OTA updates, so I've heard.
Actually, the mytouch and htc magic are different, that's why we have 32a and 32b roms and not to be hurtful or anything but he did say the devices that don't have the "with Google " dont get ota updates and last time I checked, the mytouch has it and the HTC Magic doesn't.
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well i have the "htc magic/mytouch 32B" and im sure i have it on there but we both right lol

djungelmums said:
Im not concerned about the absence of sense ui or motoblur, because i like the vanilla android the most.
Im more concerned, as you are, about the lack of updates for android. It's really weird that they cant come up with some sort of standard making it possible to update an androidphone like magic to 2.0. Noone knows if 2.0 will come to magic. Thats what concerns me.
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I don't understand why there is so much discussion on whether the Magic will get Android 2.0. It is only 6 months old in Europe, and even younger than that in the states. I thought the whole idea of Android was it was designed to be an upgradeble OS. Seems obvious to me that it will get the 2.0 upgrade - and 2.5 and 3.0 until the hardware is no longer capable. HTC would not abandon a device that has been out less than a year.

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I don't understand why there is so much discussion on whether the Magic will get Android 2.0. It is only 6 months old in Europe, and even younger than that in the states. I thought the whole idea of Android was it was designed to be an upgradeble OS. Seems obvious to me that it will get the 2.0 upgrade - and 2.5 and 3.0 until the hardware is no longer capable. HTC would not abandon a device that has been out less than a year.
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I think people are just nervous that since the G1 might not get the update, even though it's less only a little over a year old, the MT3G/Magic will stop getting updates soon.

just thinking out loud

remember when the g1 first came out and after 1.5 cupcake we were expecting donut and people kept thinking that donut was 2.0. then at the last moment we got screwed because as soon as 1.6 donut came out, the 2.0/2.1 motorola droid came out, leaving us stuck with 1.6. you guys ever think that gingerbread might not be that big of an update instead gingerbread would be 2.3 and then honeycomb would be 3.0 that comes out for a phone from out of nowhere possibly not even in t-mobiles lineup. then the g2 would be like its predecessor. once again im just thinking out loud here to see if this has crossed anyones mind

Worst case scenario we rely on this forum/developers to port over the new versions of android. Nothing you can do about which updates tmobile puts out.
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The problem with the G1 was the storage space allotted for the OS. It was too limited. So Android 2.1 and higher were a problem for Manufacturers. Granted through rooting, it was possible, it did require a special Radio, SPL, and other factors. Thats the only reason the community was able to get Android 2.2 on the G1.
The G2 is currently one of the fastest phones in the market. I highly doubt that the updates will not come. However, @bigstunta101 is correct. The choice is T-Mobile's to allow the OTA update. Also at this point we are dealing with a few more factors. At this point we do not know if T-Mobile will allow tethering natively without charging us. Why am I bringing this up? Well, simply because T-Mobile will take its time to block those features in future updates if they should want to charge us for a feature like that. The second factor is rooting. While some will not want to root, rooting does in fact give us full freedom to do what you like with your device. I personally cannot wait to run CM6.1 on G2 once its been rooted and have all of the native FROYO goodness.
Getting back on topic though, I highly doubt that T-Mobile will not update G2. It seems to me that it will be their new Flagship phone. At least for a year, they will pour whatever updates they can. I however feel that with the enormous storage space the G2 possesses, the updates will come and if not, once this device is rooted, we can get it from the community. Just a matter of time fellas.

History repeats itself.

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At this point we do not know if T-Mobile will allow tethering natively without charging us.
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Pretty sure it's been outed somewhere that this would be a paid feature. There's no reason for it not to be either, given that it is a paid feature on other carriers. Not to mention if it was not going to be a paid feature there would be no reason to have ripped it out of the shipping build.

I think a lot of people get caught up on numbers. It really does not matter if the next update is 2.5, 2.7, or even 3.0. An update is an update and that number does not make it better or worse.
I'm pretty confident that T-Mobile and HTC will be rolling out updates for the G2 for quite some time. It's currently one of the best Android phones on the market and it does not suffer from the hardware limitation found in the original G1.
Google's been releasing their Android updates about every 6 months, so we should see the net iteration of Android within the next 30-60 days.

I saw on the news the other night that gingerbread would be released end of this year to beginning of next year.
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Actually, this scenario sounds just about right to me.
Gingerbread will not be 3.0 - it's almost certain at this point. Honeycomb which will start a yearly update schedule will be 3.0.
And with htc's 'rootkit' deliberately installed in every new device they make (including the factory unlocked Desire Z/Desire HD), it sure seems like they are trying to discourage longtime support and force hardware updates - a sure sign that they aren't planning to support these phones after the next version is released (and even then they will intentionally take their time to make customers 'miserable' enough to consider the very slightly updated phone they just released)
Fortunately, since the Desire HD [and less importantly, the Desire Z] also features the same lockdown mechanism, we should be looking at a root pretty soon.
edit: Gingerbread mostly confirmed for 2.3.

A little off topic here
is honeycomb a dessert like the rest we have
and can anyone recall have long it took for the G1 from release to getting rooted?

[Q] Froyo + Sense restrictions on the Aria?

More than one web site describing the new HTC Gratia state that while it is running Froyo, it will not have the "new Sense UI". Is that because of limitations from the hardware?
I am still on my 30 day grace period with AT&T and got the Aria for two reasons - I hate the iPhone because this is what everyone seems to have and the Galaxy S is too big for my taste. Unfortunately I am stuck on AT&T but if the Aria is already showing limitations and is likely to run out of steam soon I may need to bite the bullet and get an iPhone 4... shudder.

Care to post a link to your source.
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GroovyGeek said:
More than one web site describing the new HTC Gratia state that while it is running Froyo, it will not have the "new Sense UI". Is that because of limitations from the hardware?
I am still on my 30 day grace period with AT&T and got the Aria for two reasons - I hate the iPhone because this is what everyone seems to have and the Galaxy S is too big for my taste. Unfortunately I am stuck on AT&T but if the Aria is already showing limitations and is likely to run out of steam soon I may need to bite the bullet and get an iPhone 4... shudder.
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First of all, no one knows for sure if the Gratia will come with the new Sense UI. People are ****ing freaking out over it like it's the end of the world.
Second of all, the phone is not "running out of steam".
"But, it's only 600mhz!" - Clock speeds do not matter much anymore...
"But, but but!" - shutup...
And anyway, if HTC decides to not officially support some new things there are people out there that can port/hack the phone to death to make it work flawlessly. Not a reliable way to look at the scenario but I don't care.
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After a quick research, is it even possible to run "old" Sense on android 2.2? On any phone? I didn't think any of the new HTC phones coming out with Android 2.2 had the "old" Sense UI - all have the "new" Sense UI.

I think by New Sense, they are talking about the version that's on the Desire HD and Desire Z (HTCSense.com and all that). Old Sense probably just means normal Sense, like what is currently on the EVO and other 2.2 phones.

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Second of all, the phone is not "running out of steam".
"But, it's only 600mhz!" - Clock speeds do not matter much anymore...
"But, but but!" - shutup...
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That right there was hella funny.
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Yeah, that's hella hilarity!!!

If this phone is running out of steam than the "big boy" android phones better be able to cook me dinner and tuck me in at night!
The only real restriction on this phone is the processor type not the speed ie will not work with flash due to flash not being coded for the processor in this phone, not a speed issue.

Will the new leaked GB ROM help us get a fully-functional GB + Sense 2.1 ROM working?

GB + Sense 1.0 just makes me want to yawn my brains out. Does anyone know if anything in the new leaked ROM can help the devs work towards a Sense 2.1 ROM that is fully-functional? I can't figure out why HTC/Sprint would even bother developing a ROM with the original Sense in it.

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GB + Sense 1.0 just makes me want to yawn my brains out. Does anyone know if anything in the new leaked ROM can help the devs work towards a Sense 2.1 ROM that is fully-functional? I can't figure out why HTC/Sprint would even bother developing a ROM with the original Sense in it.
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its a test rom i would guess there will be a few more leaks before the final is officially OTA'd

Definitely would be nice--I don't see a point to all these GB Sense 1.0 ROMS out now.

Have you tried VirusRom GingerSense Rev?????
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Definitely would be nice--I don't see a point to all these GB Sense 1.0 ROMS out now.
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Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, but I think you're kind of judging the book by its cover.
The leaked rom works and is fully functional (I've been running Misfit's themed version for about a day now). 4g works, gps works, everything works. It's a step forward in progress which makes most of us happy. Besides, it's probably easier upgrading sense from 1.0 to 2.1 when both are running Android 2.3 than it is to upgrade it AND the Android software all at once.
We may get 2.1 someday.

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Have you tried VirusRom GingerSense Rev?????
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this ROM has So much potential. watching it like a hawk, but...
sadly, I am cursed/blessed with living in an area with Excellent 4G, and after getting used to it, I simply can't use a ROM w/o it. ;-)
So many great ROMs right now that don't make the cut (for me), because of that. maybe silly, but...

Mikes Gingersense is a really good 2.1 ROM.

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Mikes Gingersense is a really good 2.1 ROM.
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yea once MMS is fixed ill be running this fully

kingdazy said:
this ROM has So much potential. watching it like a hawk, but...
sadly, I am cursed/blessed with living in an area with Excellent 4G, and after getting used to it, I simply can't use a ROM w/o it. ;-)
So many great ROMs right now that don't make the cut (for me), because of that. maybe silly, but...
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That's not silly at all! I'm with you, I finally have 4G here in my area and it's nice to have. As much as I would like to run a GingerSense Rom, there's NO WAY I will run a Rom with no 4G! Not no but HELL NO!!! I need and use 4G and besides, I'm paying for it! 5 - 10mb downloads is hard to leave for crappy .30mbps 3G downloads!

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That's not silly at all! I'm with you, I finally have 4G here in my area and it's nice to have. As much as I would like to run a GingerSense Rom, there's NO WAY I will run a Rom with no 4G! Not no but HELL NO!!! I need and use 4G and besides, I'm paying for it! 5 - 10mb downloads is hard to leave for crappy .30mbps 3G downloads!
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As far as I know 4G is working on these roms. Unless I'm wrong?
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As far as I know 4G is working on these roms. Unless I'm wrong?
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4g works on the leaked rom, with sense 1.0. The gingersense roms (sense 2.1) are still ports from other devices, and do not have 4g.
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I guess the reason I am so disappointed is that I haven't even heard of another GB device running Sense 1.0... seems it would have been easier for them to just push 2.1

I sent HTC an email yesterday about the EVO receiving at least Sense 2.0 and they replied with...
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Wow... an intelligent and (at least somewhat) informative response from HTC, instead of a form letter. They actually acknowledge that they are working on a GB release for Sprint, and let us know that it's up to Sprint, not HTC, which version of the UI will be included (although, I think many of us already assumed this was the case).

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I don't see a point to sense.
LauncherPro>Sense

I personally don't think we will get the new sense only because the Evo 3D is coming. I know it will probably drop after the Evo 3D but it just wouldn't make sense on a business standpoint. Now I am not saying that HTC will make that call but Sprint may. There is no promise of the new Sense coming to the Evo anywhere or at least hear say. I love my Evo like everyone else but I am really getting bored with it. I find myself looking at the Nexus 4g and the Evo 3d. I like the new sense but other than themes and a few widgets, I don't see the big hype. I can't say it's not better because it is. More is always better but it's not a deal breaker.
I personally think the leak is exactly what we will be getting. It makes no sense for them to make a rom and add some features from the new sense like copy and paste, new font, and the newer browser. and keep everything else the same and then soon drop a rom with the newest sense. Don't be suprised if this is all we get. The EVO is going to be a....was a Flagship phone very soon.

Jjday7 said:
I personally don't think we will get the new sense only because the Evo 3D is coming. I know it will probably drop after the Evo 3D but it just wouldn't make sense on a business standpoint. Now I am not saying that HTC will make that call but Sprint may. There is no promise of the new Sense coming to the Evo anywhere or at least hear say. I love my Evo like everyone else but I am really getting bored with it. I find myself looking at the Nexus 4g and the Evo 3d. I like the new sense but other than themes and a few widgets, I don't see the big hype. I can't say it's not better because it is. More is always better but it's not a deal breaker.
I personally think the leak is exactly what we will be getting. It makes no sense for them to make a rom and add some features from the new sense like copy and paste, new font, and the newer browser. and keep everything else the same and then soon drop a rom with the newest sense. Don't be suprised if this is all we get. The EVO is going to be a....was a Flagship phone very soon.
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this is my thoughts exactly.
in a different thread I mentioned something similar...
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so, this Really isnt the thread for this, but yes, HTC is releasing an update this summer, and yes, a GB update. And like I said earlier, it's all speculation, some say one, some say the other (re: what Sense will be in it.)
Personally, the idea of getting GB to "work" with an old version of Sense, Then putting Sense 2.X on Top of that makes little to no sense to me (pun... intended?).
Sense is big, Sense runs deep. It's not "just a simple overlay". From a software testing standpoint, it makes no sense to test an OS with an extensive older software set integrated, then retest (this close to release) with a completely new software system later.
Perhaps the leak is what we are getting (likely), or perhaps it's an early test build that has been abandoned...? (if we're lucky)
(i'm not saying anything more on this, there are a billionionion other threads re: this... )
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imho, a fully (meaning 4g) functioning gb/sense2 rom for our evos is a long shot, and even less likely an official one.
please, devs, prove me wrong.
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Sense 2.1 would be nice on the Evo, but as it stands now i would like a Gingerbread ROM with 4G functionality with sense 2.1. Other than that, form a marketing standpoint it would make sense for sprint to either hold off on then update or remove it to entice people to buy phones with the newer software. It is a logical business move.

i love how everybody has to use the phrases 'what makes sense' and 'what doesnt make sense', in a thread about Sense

I thought it was posted that 2.3 (and whatever version sense HTC will put in) is supposed to push late June? Was that information innacurate?