Alright guys, I'm a relatively new android user owning the MT3G since the day it came out. As it stands, I'm pretty confused with google's branding and partnership with my device. As it stands, even though I have a "with google" device, I don't receive updates for their operating system first, they only go to the highest bidder or newest tech despite the fact that my phone is less than 3 months old. I don't receive any special updates other than the updates everyone else gets as well. All of the applications "with google" are available free from the market. My "with google" version has 100+mb less ram than the normal HTC Magic. HTC offers their customers the Sense UI. Motorola entices customers with Blur. Google customers get... nothing. For the life of me, I cannot figure out why any customer after doing some research, would want to have a "google experience" phone. So far, my personal experience has been: With Google = **** you.
To me it just seems like an expensive name drop and a lubeless fist to their customers, or am I just completely missing all the amazing features of my google device?
you (should) get OTA updates ... devices which dont have the "with Google" dont and need to wipe for every update (and there is no 1.6 for HTC magic ...)
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Alright guys, I'm a relatively new android user owning the MT3G since the day it came out. As it stands, I'm pretty confused with google's branding and partnership with my device. As it stands, even though I have a "with google" device, I don't receive updates for their operating system first, they only go to the highest bidder or newest tech despite the fact that my phone is less than 3 months old. I don't receive any special updates other than the updates everyone else gets as well. All of the applications "with google" are available free from the market. My "with google" version has 100+mb less ram than the normal HTC Magic. HTC offers their customers the Sense UI. Motorola entices customers with Blur. Google customers get... nothing. For the life of me, I cannot figure out why any customer after doing some research, would want to have a "google experience" phone. So far, my personal experience has been: With Google = **** you.
To me it just seems like an expensive name drop and a lubeless fist to their customers, or am I just completely missing all the amazing features of my google device?
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Btw the Verizon Hero has the 'with google' branding and it has Sense UI, so I'm not sure that 'with google' really means anything on Android phones. It certainly does not make them exclusive in any way.
Its not google that youre pissed at its "Teen-Mobile". They had the first Android (g1) over a year ago. It took them an entire year to release the MT3G, that means it took them an entire year to add a small amount of internal memory, and NO ram. thats the only improvement they could manage.
I feel your pain, its pretty embarrassing to be with a company who's third and "best" Android, the culmination of over a year of work is still literally worse, according to hardware and overall capability than ANY of their competitor's Android phones.
Im pretty sure they cut the ram by a third because they knew that they had the Cliq coming out after the MT3G, and it has 256mb ram so if they didnt screw the MT3G then the Cliq wouldnt have much to make it an improvement. I not sure what TMO's angle is but it definitely isnt consumer friendly
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you (should) get OTA updates ... devices which dont have the "with Google" dont and need to wipe for every update (and there is no 1.6 for HTC magic ...)
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i beg to differ i have 1.6 on mytouch aka HTC magic
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you (should) get OTA updates ... devices which dont have the "with Google" dont and need to wipe for every update (and there is no 1.6 for HTC magic ...)
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The "with Google" has nothing to do with if you get OTA updates or not. OTA updates depend on the carrier. Some Sprint Heros have the "with Google" branding, but it will not receive OTA updates, instead they have to update it through computer because Sprint doesn't send OTA updates, so I've heard.
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i beg to differ i have 1.6 on mytouch aka HTC magic
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Actually, the mytouch and htc magic are different, that's why we have 32a and 32b roms and not to be hurtful or anything but he did say the devices that don't have the "with Google " dont get ota updates and last time I checked, the mytouch has it and the HTC Magic doesn't.
Im not concerned about the absence of sense ui or motoblur, because i like the vanilla android the most.
Im more concerned, as you are, about the lack of updates for android. It's really weird that they cant come up with some sort of standard making it possible to update an androidphone like magic to 2.0. Noone knows if 2.0 will come to magic. Thats what concerns me.
Im not concerned about the absence of sense ui or motoblur, because i like the vanilla android the most.
Im more concerned, as you are, about the lack of updates for android. It's really weird that they cant come up with some sort of standard making it possible to update an androidphone like magic to 2.0. Noone knows if 2.0 will come to magic. Thats what concerns me.
If anything, 2.0 should come to the magic because it has enough space. Phones with custom UIs will have to wait, since the UIs will also need to be updated.
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The "with Google" has nothing to do with if you get OTA updates or not. OTA updates depend on the carrier. Some Sprint Heros have the "with Google" branding, but it will not receive OTA updates, instead they have to update it through computer because Sprint doesn't send OTA updates, so I've heard.
Actually, the mytouch and htc magic are different, that's why we have 32a and 32b roms and not to be hurtful or anything but he did say the devices that don't have the "with Google " dont get ota updates and last time I checked, the mytouch has it and the HTC Magic doesn't.
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well i have the "htc magic/mytouch 32B" and im sure i have it on there but we both right lol
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Im not concerned about the absence of sense ui or motoblur, because i like the vanilla android the most.
Im more concerned, as you are, about the lack of updates for android. It's really weird that they cant come up with some sort of standard making it possible to update an androidphone like magic to 2.0. Noone knows if 2.0 will come to magic. Thats what concerns me.
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I don't understand why there is so much discussion on whether the Magic will get Android 2.0. It is only 6 months old in Europe, and even younger than that in the states. I thought the whole idea of Android was it was designed to be an upgradeble OS. Seems obvious to me that it will get the 2.0 upgrade - and 2.5 and 3.0 until the hardware is no longer capable. HTC would not abandon a device that has been out less than a year.
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I don't understand why there is so much discussion on whether the Magic will get Android 2.0. It is only 6 months old in Europe, and even younger than that in the states. I thought the whole idea of Android was it was designed to be an upgradeble OS. Seems obvious to me that it will get the 2.0 upgrade - and 2.5 and 3.0 until the hardware is no longer capable. HTC would not abandon a device that has been out less than a year.
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I think people are just nervous that since the G1 might not get the update, even though it's less only a little over a year old, the MT3G/Magic will stop getting updates soon.
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After seeing an official Android 2.0/2.1 update being released for the T-Mobile G1 discussed here and here, I haven't see anything else about it. Does anyone know if this will still happen, or are Dream/Magic users out of luck when it comes to anything beyond 1.6?
They can say they're official all they want, but it's not official until TMo says it officially. Nobody really knows at this point. . . just a ton of speculation.
Has nothing to do with tmobile.
Has to do with HTC.
It doesn't matter if tmobile wants it or not -- if HTC doesn't produce it, it doesn't happen.
Note: tmobile can even REFUSE it, but that doesnt mean that any of *us* are out of luck since HTC [is supposed to] support ADP1 directly -- tmobile has nothing to do with this AT ALL.
Ok, thanks for the responses. I asked because I really want something new. With Android 2.0 and 2.1 being out, and with other phones having the awesome Sense interface, a phone with Donut and without Sense is downright boring to me. If no official 2.0/2.1 ROM will be released for the Dream, I may take the plunge to root and switch to the CM ROM. I'd rather have an official 2.0 though!
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Has nothing to do with tmobile.
Has to do with HTC.
It doesn't matter if tmobile wants it or not -- if HTC doesn't produce it, it doesn't happen.
Note: tmobile can even REFUSE it, but that doesnt mean that any of *us* are out of luck since HTC [is supposed to] support ADP1 directly -- tmobile has nothing to do with this AT ALL.
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tmobile has to request the update from google. In the end t mobile gets to decide if we get the upgrade, if old gen phones keep gettin updated then no one will buy new phones.
Well the Roger's Magic is getting 2.1 with Sense. They said, however, that their G1's will not get the update due to certain limitations on the device. So those with other carriers, like T-Mobile might not get it either...
http://androidandme.com/2010/01/pho...s-android-software-updates-for-select-phones/
Makes me wonder if the MT3G might not get the update either due to it being a 32B and not a 32A like the Roger's or other 32A phones.
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Well the Roger's Magic is getting 2.1 with Sense. They said, however, that their G1's will not get the update due to certain limitations on the device. So those with other carriers, like T-Mobile might not get it either...
http://androidandme.com/2010/01/pho...s-android-software-updates-for-select-phones/
Makes me wonder if the MT3G might not get the update either due to it being a 32B and not a 32A like the Roger's or other 32A phones.
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Robbers is a bunch of liars.
They claim that they can't upgrade past 1.FIVE due to hardware limitations... well gee, everybody else everywhere already has 1.6.
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tmobile has to request the update from google. In the end t mobile gets to decide if we get the upgrade, if old gen phones keep gettin updated then no one will buy new phones.
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Google has NOTHING to do with it. Google does NOT have the required source. HTC has the required source. HTC supports ADP1 directly. If HTC is unwilling, then nothing happens. If HTC chooses to build the necessary binaries, then we're good as gold. Tmobile can ask until they're blue in the face. It is still ENTIRELY UP TO HTC.
I'm new to Android and Android modding, so can I get some advice as to where to go from here? I've flashed phones before (most recently my SE TM506 to the generic SE firmware), but that was extremely simple by comparison.
I feel that a G1 user with stock T-Mobile OTA Donut is really getting left behind, so I'd like to try something newer. I would love 2.1 and HTC Sense, but that doesn't seem likely, and an official 2.0/2.1 OTA ROM seems less and less likely as well. CyanogenMod is an obvious choice, but the upgrade procedure is very intimidating to me, and I also hear a lot of conflicts/bugs that people experience with that ROM.
What should someone that's new to Android modding do to keep getting the most out of their Dream?
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What should someone that's new to Android modding do to keep getting the most out of their Dream?
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Root and experiment with new roms.
You wont look back
So from the Nexus One order page, it looks like 2.1 has a cupcake type taskbar, which I love the look of.
Do you think this will be the stock taskbar for all 2.1 instances (i.e when Sprint and HTC get off their fat wealthy asses and give it to us)
What do you mean by taskbar?
Im interested in knowing if the Hero's version of 2.1 will have all the eyecandy as the nexus' 2.1. I mean the rom we have now as 2.1 is probably not what we will be getting pushed to us but it doesnt give much hope of seeing a completely new UI, something that I would love to have in the next few weeks/months/eventually lol
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Im interested in knowing if the Hero's version of 2.1 will have all the eyecandy as the nexus' 2.1. I mean the rom we have now as 2.1 is probably not what we will be getting pushed to us but it doesnt give much hope of seeing a completely new UI, something that I would love to have in the next few weeks/months/eventually lol
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What we have on the Hero isn't really a 2.1 (Flan) build. It's closer to 2.0.1 (Eclair). Most of the eye candy in Flan is going to require OpenGL, which isn't working in the "2.1" ROM for Hero.
But as far as what's on the Nexus One, I would be shocked if Google decides to make any of the UI components proprietary. Which leads me to think that whatever you see on the Nexus One you will see in any other Flan builds. Although it is possible that they will consider some of it a "With Google" feature, which doesn't necessarily mean it won't be available in other builds, just that it won't be available in AOSP. But since our phones are by definition "with Google", we would be within our license agreement to have those features in our build.
Disclaimer: this is all just speculation.
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What we have on the Hero isn't really a 2.1 (Flan) build. It's closer to 2.0.1 (Eclair). Most of the eye candy in Flan is going to require OpenGL, which isn't working in the "2.1" ROM for Hero.
But as far as what's on the Nexus One, I would be shocked if Google decides to make any of the UI components proprietary. Which leads me to think that whatever you see on the Nexus One you will see in any other Flan builds. Although it is possible that they will consider some of it a "With Google" feature, which doesn't necessarily mean it won't be available in other builds, just that it won't be available in AOSP. But since our phones are by definition "with Google", we would be within our license agreement to have those features in our build.
Disclaimer: this is all just speculation.
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FYI, Google has clearly stated that 2.1 is NOT Flan. It is just an update to Eclair.
Google has said that the 2.1 you see on the Nexus One will be going open source within a few days. They also said that as long as any phone is capable, all future upgrade will be made available for them.
In our case, updates will be made available to Sprint and Sprint will choose what to do about coming out with an official rom. They have promised 2.1 and we have no reason to believe it will be anything but what we see on the Nexus.
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But since our phones are by definition "with Google", we would be within our license agreement to have those features in our build.
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I've been wondering about this because most of the Sprint Hero's that I've seen say "with Google" on them but the one that I bought doesn't say that. Are all Sprint Hero's "with Google" phones or are some of them (like mine, possibly) not? What's the difference anyway?
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I've been wondering about this because most of the Sprint Hero's that I've seen say "with Google" on them but the one that I bought doesn't say that. Are all Sprint Hero's "with Google" phones or are some of them (like mine, possibly) not? What's the difference anyway?
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NO difference. Ive had three Heros, two within the first 30 days after launch 10/09 without the with google on back. There is no difference just a screen print on the battery cover.
The "Flan" UI look is just an apk like sinseui. U can actually get the apk for the Flan UI that's been modded to work on 2.0.1 builds. It may work on the asop 2.0 Rom quietblongs made if it has opengl. That's actually what some of the droid users are doing to get the UI and not sacrifice stability. But yeah we could have the glitter of Flan if desired I believe. But since our kernel six ull have to sacrifice some features of it phone. Hope this helps
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NO difference. Ive had three Heros, two within the first 30 days after launch 10/09 without the with google on back. There is no difference just a screen print on the battery cover.
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So it is considered a "with Google" phone then, right? I just want to make sure because the Auto-root program in Fresh's Pre-Kitchen has a check box that you check off if it's a "with Google" phone...
noooo
SupahDave said:
So it is considered a "with Google" phone then, right? I just want to make sure because the Auto-root program in Fresh's Pre-Kitchen has a check box that you check off if it's a "with Google" phone...
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noooooo, please don't check that box unless your phone says "with google" on the back. Although there is no difference in the phone (hardware) i believe that there is a little difference in software (maybe the rom version or something) I really can't remember.
It is my understanding although all the sprint cdma hero's are "with google" that fresh's kitchen literally means "does it say "with google" on the back?".
I'm 90% sure about this, can someone else confirm?
-AndyS-
Thank you for the correction...
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I believe phones without "With Google" were delivered with 1.29
I believe phone with "With Google" were delivered with 1.56
I believe...
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not true. my phone is a with google phone and it was indeed delivered with the 1.29 ROM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKiBzBAHuEw
Finally! Time for Android to get some more exposure!
A few people I've shown my phone to say "Hey is that the Droid phone?"
I know the N1 will never be marketed on television etc, for whatever reason, but with the Evo, I'm hoping they'll market the hell out of it like Motorola/Verizon did for the Droid.
Um. What does this have to do with television marketing? Its a promo ad HTC releases for most if not all their newer phones. Even the Nexus had this (google made, of course).. it isn't an official advertisement to be broadcasted.. unless I'm missing something. Though, it could be trimmed into a tv advertisement.. 1 minute is obviously too long.
Nice video though. I think it looks like a giant black brick, a powerful giant brick.. reminds me of the HTC HD2.
you dont think verizon will advertise nexus one once they get it?
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you dont think verizon will advertise nexus one once they get it?
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Nope. How much advertising did T-Mobile and AT&T do?
I think it's agreed internally that this "Google" device will not be marketed on television etc because it would upset other Android phone manufacturers.
^ why would it "upset other Android phone manufacturers."?
because it is marketed as "THE" Google device, hence the Google Nexus One. It's marketing, Oh these phones have android by Google but this phone was specifically made for Google it must be that much more special. Both you and I know there is no major difference really if at all.
And for me it is. (Proud Google/Android fanboy though)
-Charlie
A few things:
First, in my experience, I've seen that Verizon LOVES to market ANYTHING they can to put the screws on AT&T and T-Mo. Plus, while so many of T-Mo's devices are Android based, as of late, they haven't done too much advertising from what I've noticed on devices they have. As for AT&T, only recently have they started talking about the Backflip, and even still, they're too much in love with the iPhone to market much else.
Second, how would marketing the N1 upset the other Android manufacturers? Just because it's branded a bit more with Google, doesn't mean diddly-squat. Now if it's an agreement that Google wants their partners in Android to do their marketing work for them, then fine, but I don't see how it makes much business sense not to advertise the N1, and an agreement like the one mentioned doesn't make much sense unless I'm missing something. Also, Google can most certainly change how they market the N1 as well. It doesn't need to be "THE" Google device.
Just my two cents on that.
Back to the HTC EVO, has anybody anything heard/read anything about it having a version of Android that will bridge Eclair to Froyo? HTC and Spring PRs have said it will be 2.1, but I assume something beyond 2.1 would be out by then, don't you think? (Yes, I have already seen/read the April Fools' jokes about Froyo coming to the EVO).
i highly doubt it because htc barely just finished make their Sense UI for android 2.1
As reported by androidandme.com, It seems as though an agreement has been made for Verizon and Motorola to have the first phone to ship* with Gingerbread (2.5).
http://androidandme.com/2010/09/news/motorola-and-verizon-score-gingerbread-exclusive/
As stated above, the wording seems to be first shipped* with GB, not necessarily first device to receive the update. With Verizon having the largest ad campaign for Android phones, coupled with the farthest deviation from the stock OS, it does a lot to harm (dis-unify) the Brand Identity of Android.
Read it, and not only is everything in that article speculation; It doesn't say a damn thing about Verizon/Motorola getting a Gingerbread deal (with any real proof). In fact, nothing in that article has any proof.
I hate this read.
So far the nexus has gotten everything first. Lets hope we get a taste of gingerbread as well.
The N1 will be among the first to get it, does it really matter that much which phone ships with it first?
There is so much misinformation that article, out reads like the onion.
Pfft, whats the big deal.. someone will be first, why not motorola.
Besides, since we're here at xda, u'll get the gingerbread before those phones hit the market anyway.
And I'm sure that google won't let exclusivity for android phones. Not that it's even possible with an open-source system.
IF any other crappy phone takes Gingerbread BEFORE my Nexus...
I´ll put it on Ebay and pick an Iphone4:
At least I´ll have the security that my phone will be up to date on time and that at least it will deliver what promises: antenna malfunction included.
Sounds like more mis-information The Nexus 1 will hopefully get it 1st
the nexus is googles official dev phone. which means gingerbread is most likely being developed using a nexus so i doubt any other phones will recieve it first unless google has another dev phone by then
There´s only one positive answer to the thread´s question:
-Motorola Strike= Nexus Two
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1- Besides, since we're here at xda, u'll get the gingerbread before those phones hit the market anyway.
2- And I'm sure that google won't let exclusivity for android phones. Not that it's even possible with an open-source system.
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if google holds onto the source until a phone ships with gingerbread then not only would that phone have it before the n1 (1) but that would also give android exclusivitiy (2) which in the long run may actually really help both android and google (and of course motorola and verizon ).
Now obviously roms leak all the time and some hacked up version would land on the n1 but to me it seems that doesn't count. AOSP and OTA are what count for an update being "official"...no?
and really...who cares?
Why I think the Nexus One will see Gingerbread first?
Because Motorola loads up their devices with Bloatware. Motorola can not even release the Milestone with 2.2 until Q1 2011 to get it to work with the MotoBLur software.
Dude I don't understand why some of yall actually think the N1 won't see gingerbread first. I'm almost sure Google has stated somewhere that it is. Also the N1 is the google developer phone. Even if it's not there to buy anymore, it's still google's developer phone..... they have said that.
We got 2.2 first, months before some. Why wouldn't we get 2.5/.3.0 (whatever they decide to call it) first? We will...
Being old I long since lost the need to dickslap. Who cares who gets it first, more power to them. There is no doubt we will get it in short order regardless of whether we are actually the first. That is in contrast to many which will never recieve it without downloading it via a custom rom which the vast majority are not even aware they can do. I am glad I am where I am with phones, there is still not another piece of hardware out there I percieve as being worth a spend. I suspect as it continues to age another developer phone will be annointed and I'll be there. Its good to keep in mind that google said they were getting out of the business model, not out of developing a phone period or having a part in the development of a new handset.
ok, so here is how android works. Google makes/upgrades Android, this is a very basic version (stock OS). This version is only able to work with the dev phones. It is then up to the responsobility of the maufacturere (moto, htc, etc) to get it to work with their phone. So the instant that gingerbread is completed it only works for the Nexus One, it then takes weeks/months for other manufactures to get it working on their specific phones. So too fool yourself into thinking that the nexus one wont get the Os update first is just false. The dev phones will ALWAYS get the updates first, assmuming the hardware can handle it.
P.S. I concider the moto droid a dev phone even though it officially was not one.
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Dude I don't understand why some of yall actually think the N1 won't see gingerbread first. I'm almost sure Google has stated somewhere that it is. Also the N1 is the google developer phone. Even if it's not there to buy anymore, it's still google's developer phone..... they have said that.
We got 2.2 first, months before some. Why wouldn't we get 2.5/.3.0 (whatever they decide to call it) first? We will...
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Techincally when N1 got 2.2 the "developer phone" was the mytouch, so the current dev phone doesn't always get the update first.
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Techincally when N1 got 2.2 the "developer phone" was the mytouch, so the current dev phone doesn't always get the update first.
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Actually the dev phone was the HTC magic, mytouch was a carrier version. Technically your right, but I'm guessing as soon as Google's baby, the nexus, was released it took over dev status even if not officially announced
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didnt the deal say something about the first phone to keyword SHIP with gingerbread, I have confidence that the N1 will be the first phone to get Gingerbread
remember when the g1 first came out and after 1.5 cupcake we were expecting donut and people kept thinking that donut was 2.0. then at the last moment we got screwed because as soon as 1.6 donut came out, the 2.0/2.1 motorola droid came out, leaving us stuck with 1.6. you guys ever think that gingerbread might not be that big of an update instead gingerbread would be 2.3 and then honeycomb would be 3.0 that comes out for a phone from out of nowhere possibly not even in t-mobiles lineup. then the g2 would be like its predecessor. once again im just thinking out loud here to see if this has crossed anyones mind
Worst case scenario we rely on this forum/developers to port over the new versions of android. Nothing you can do about which updates tmobile puts out.
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The problem with the G1 was the storage space allotted for the OS. It was too limited. So Android 2.1 and higher were a problem for Manufacturers. Granted through rooting, it was possible, it did require a special Radio, SPL, and other factors. Thats the only reason the community was able to get Android 2.2 on the G1.
The G2 is currently one of the fastest phones in the market. I highly doubt that the updates will not come. However, @bigstunta101 is correct. The choice is T-Mobile's to allow the OTA update. Also at this point we are dealing with a few more factors. At this point we do not know if T-Mobile will allow tethering natively without charging us. Why am I bringing this up? Well, simply because T-Mobile will take its time to block those features in future updates if they should want to charge us for a feature like that. The second factor is rooting. While some will not want to root, rooting does in fact give us full freedom to do what you like with your device. I personally cannot wait to run CM6.1 on G2 once its been rooted and have all of the native FROYO goodness.
Getting back on topic though, I highly doubt that T-Mobile will not update G2. It seems to me that it will be their new Flagship phone. At least for a year, they will pour whatever updates they can. I however feel that with the enormous storage space the G2 possesses, the updates will come and if not, once this device is rooted, we can get it from the community. Just a matter of time fellas.
History repeats itself.
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At this point we do not know if T-Mobile will allow tethering natively without charging us.
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Pretty sure it's been outed somewhere that this would be a paid feature. There's no reason for it not to be either, given that it is a paid feature on other carriers. Not to mention if it was not going to be a paid feature there would be no reason to have ripped it out of the shipping build.
I think a lot of people get caught up on numbers. It really does not matter if the next update is 2.5, 2.7, or even 3.0. An update is an update and that number does not make it better or worse.
I'm pretty confident that T-Mobile and HTC will be rolling out updates for the G2 for quite some time. It's currently one of the best Android phones on the market and it does not suffer from the hardware limitation found in the original G1.
Google's been releasing their Android updates about every 6 months, so we should see the net iteration of Android within the next 30-60 days.
I saw on the news the other night that gingerbread would be released end of this year to beginning of next year.
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Actually, this scenario sounds just about right to me.
Gingerbread will not be 3.0 - it's almost certain at this point. Honeycomb which will start a yearly update schedule will be 3.0.
And with htc's 'rootkit' deliberately installed in every new device they make (including the factory unlocked Desire Z/Desire HD), it sure seems like they are trying to discourage longtime support and force hardware updates - a sure sign that they aren't planning to support these phones after the next version is released (and even then they will intentionally take their time to make customers 'miserable' enough to consider the very slightly updated phone they just released)
Fortunately, since the Desire HD [and less importantly, the Desire Z] also features the same lockdown mechanism, we should be looking at a root pretty soon.
edit: Gingerbread mostly confirmed for 2.3.
A little off topic here
is honeycomb a dessert like the rest we have
and can anyone recall have long it took for the G1 from release to getting rooted?