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Hey I was reading through Tmobile USA twitter and they posted something regarding to mytouch3g and 2.0
@articulategeek Yes, it is upgradable. T-Mobile is coordinating with Google on the next release.
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My new MyTouch 3G was just automagically updated to firmware 1.6. Could it be that 2.0 is close behind? Be still my geeky heart. #TMobile
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http://twitter.com/tmobile_mytouch
does this mean that Tmobile is indeed working on getting 2.0 out for mytouch3g and possibly g1 (sincei ts similar HW)?
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The one thing we can say for sure about tmobile's android strategy is that they prefer to stay at least 1 or 2 large steps behind their competition. So until they show more than the slightest interest in Android, which could happen should the rumors prove true, im not holding by breath. It took them nearly a year to produce their 2nd Android phone (mt3g), and it had 0 performance improvements on the first Android phone (g1). This simply isnt a carrier that, at this point, has done anything to show any confidence in the google operating system after their initial attempt with the g1. Im hoping to baby jesus that their confidence and outlook for Android changes, but tmobile is the cheapest carrier, and they have poor coverage, so i would expect them to believe their customers arent interested in high-end devices. On the other hand i bought out my last contract just to get a g1, so hopefully their are enough of the same type of customers to get tmobile interested in keeping such customers...
mytouch is not getting 2.0, it's getting 2.5 and it is going to be released in january and it has flash player
the next release after 2.0 is 2.1, 2.5 is not coming out for a WHILE. I dont know where you heard about this but this is impossible.
Impossible is such an overused word. Improbable is more like it. this has already been discussed in a couple threads in the dream forums. that's why I said what I did about it. Someone was saying the release date for it is january 18. go check it out yourself.
Actually believe it or not I to have seen the talk for T-Mobile releasing the 2.5 update. I don't remember where, I will track down my source. But ya it wont be for the MT3G thou. I am pretty sure any way. I will look tonight for it. I think I was reading up for the Cliq and read after the decision on the Nexus One and a few other phone deals are made it will be decided on when the update will be allowed. Once again I will search for where I saw this. I am sorry for being empty handed right now. Please try and remember how fast all the other updates came thou. So 2.5 really isn't as far as we all think. The updates are only minor fixes that the Google staff and other affiliates get to work on everyday they punch in. So I would not be surprised if there isn't a 3.0 already being worked on.
I too have read in a few places the mt3g was getting 2.5. All I want is the better 2.0 onscreen keyboard and flash support.
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just psoted on same twitter:
@Sergiolvrd T-Mobile is coordinating with Google on future updates. Plz watch http://tinyurl.com/yatd2ul for news as available. Thanks!
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for those wishing to upgrade to the EVO/supersonic please read this
http://phandroid.com/2010/03/24/4g-front-facing-cam-hdmi-out-get-dev-help-from-sprint/
This right here has changed my mind as I was still middle of the road about getting it after yesterday's reviews.
Basically what is going on is what happened to the hero. A 1.5 mashup with cdma support that caused us to basically be incompatible with other roms for a long time untill aosp 1.6 and 2.1 builds came out. 1.5 not having support for cdma technology. The linked article states that 2.1 R2 does not have 4g support as of yet. This isn't a game stopper, in my belief, and will probally run 2.1 just fine under 3g, but I'm not taking the chance of the problem running deeper for the simple fact of that, I really like my cross platform development. With a custom 2.1 release will probably come a non-standard kernel version as well. And potential lack of being able to root right out of the box. It might also lack ports of other android devices until some official build higher than 2.1 comes out.
Not attempting to discourage anyone here from going to the evo, just trying to inform the uninformed of potential downsides. I'm personally going to the nexus, regardless of that sexy big screen and kickstand *sigh*
Thanks,
-Grant
says the devs are working hard on support for 4g though. As much hype that it has generated already, I have no doubt that devs will have everything compatible within a very short time period.
I don't see it taking too long for Google to release an Android Froyo with built in WiMAX support, especially since it's coming out over the Summer. As far as how long it's going to take HTC/Sprint to release it... Well us Hero users can vouch for them not having very timely releases. (kernel source anyone?)
I'm sure sprint and google will have it working... no doubt... but making the same changes to what's out there right now... or what comes in the near future... might be a challange for xda developers not sprint ones.
i thin it will be fine. its advertised as the first 4g phone in america and its not coming out until summer. thats a long time in cell phone years
Agreed. I guess the hope is just that the 4G compatibility trickles in from Google and not from HTC.
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for those wishing to upgrade to the EVO/supersonic please read this
http://phandroid.com/2010/03/24/4g-front-facing-cam-hdmi-out-get-dev-help-from-sprint/
This right here has changed my mind as I was still middle of the road about getting it after yesterday's reviews.
Basically what is going on is what happened to the hero. A 1.5 mashup with cdma support that caused us to basically be incompatible with other roms for a long time untill aosp 1.6 and 2.1 builds came out. 1.5 not having support for cdma technology. The linked article states that 2.1 R2 does not have 4g support as of yet. This isn't a game stopper, in my belief, and will probally run 2.1 just fine under 3g, but I'm not taking the chance of the problem running deeper for the simple fact of that, I really like my cross platform development. With a custom 2.1 release will probably come a non-standard kernel version as well. And potential lack of being able to root right out of the box. It might also lack ports of other android devices until some official build higher than 2.1 comes out.
Not attempting to discourage anyone here from going to the evo, just trying to inform the uninformed of potential downsides. I'm personally going to the nexus, regardless of that sexy big screen and kickstand *sigh*
Thanks,
-Grant
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Mild fail, i'd say. You haven't even deterred me an ounce from not molesting this phone at launch. Nothing you mentioned is a potential downside when the fixes will be done by summer's launch. Why don't we actually get the device in hand first, start hacking away and then proclaim all the doom we want, eh?? It's still at least ~3 months away.
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Mild fail, i'd say. You haven't even deterred me an ounce from not molesting this phone at launch. Nothing you mentioned is a potential downside when the fixes will be done by summer's launch. Why don't we actually get the device in hand first, start hacking away and then proclaim all the doom we want, eh?? It's still at least ~3 months away.
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mild fail? I said I'm not trying to detour anyone. If you want to get one... then be my guest, in fact, it looks like the best android phone to date. *I* am just not getting one, and was letting whoever cared to know, why I wasn't.
I'm not sure how you are interpreting what I wrote, but I'm going to try to lay it as flat on the table as possible.
-All the roms floating around on xda right now may not be fully functional with the EVO.
-root may not be possible out of the box, or for a long time, or even at all.
-custom build for the wimax code may be proprietary and might not ever get merged with AOSP.
-updates to the next version of android will depend totally on sprint and htc.
-android, senceUI, and wimax will work fine right out of the box I am sure of it.
that is all I'm saying, you are acting like I'm attacking the EVO, I am absolutely not. I was probably going to get one until I read that article, and the points I made are why. These are my personal beliefs after seeing what has happened with sprint and android up until this point, take it however you want, but please take with a grain of salt, any one or all the points I made may not end up being true.
That is all.
Early adopters of any new technology will always face mild setbacks like these.
So long as someone can figure out stealth tethering, I don't think people will be going nuts having to wait for a custom rom.
I still really want one, but I'm going to use my TP2 on sprint for as long as I can until I get bored with it, and too upset with people stopping development on wm6+ apps simply because wm7 was announced.
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So long as someone can figure out stealth tethering, I don't think people will be going nuts having to wait for a custom rom.
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tethering is a native feature of the phone, and there's no limit on data usage... so i don't know what you're worried about.
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tethering is a native feature of the phone, and there's no limit on data usage... so i don't know what you're worried about.
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it comes on other sprint android phones out of the box as well, but you have to pay for the tethering access for it to work. There's actually 2 accounts in your radio programming on your phone, one for normal data, one for shared, the second doesn't work unless sprint enables it. The wifi tethering hack just pushes both accesses through the same account.
I can see why he would be concerned
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it comes on other sprint android phones out of the box as well, but you have to pay for the tethering access for it to work. There's actually 2 accounts in your radio programming on your phone, one for normal data, one for shared, the second doesn't work unless sprint enables it. The wifi tethering hack just pushes both accesses through the same account.
I can see why he would be concerned
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Thats a good point, but with them pushing that as such a large selling point of the phone i can't see them charging too much extra for it... *shrug*
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Thats a good point, but with them pushing that as such a large selling point of the phone i can't see them charging too much extra for it... *shrug*
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I'm definitely not going the *official* tethering route. It's data that i'm already paying for and shouldn't matter which pipe it's coming out of as long as i'm within my cap.
Case in point, on my Treo Pro, with all the tethering i do via wifirouter i still come out less than 5gb/month.
PDANet, i'm looking at you come summer time.
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I'm definitely not going the *official* tethering route. It's data that i'm already paying for and shouldn't matter which pipe it's coming out of as long as i'm within my cap.
Case in point, on my Treo Pro, with all the tethering i do via wifirouter i still come out less than 5gb/month.
PDANet, i'm looking at you come summer time.
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Not that the whole 5gb thing matters, as there isn't a cap on cell usage. Only airCards / the overdrive have a 5gb cap on them. The cell plans still don't.
The real question is, WHEN will it be available for T-Mobile???
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The real question is, WHEN will it be available for T-Mobile???
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Unless tmobile signs on to wimax it wont be
johnsongrantr said:
for those wishing to upgrade to the EVO/supersonic please read this
http://phandroid.com/2010/03/24/4g-front-facing-cam-hdmi-out-get-dev-help-from-sprint/
This right here has changed my mind as I was still middle of the road about getting it after yesterday's reviews.
Basically what is going on is what happened to the hero. A 1.5 mashup with cdma support that caused us to basically be incompatible with other roms for a long time untill aosp 1.6 and 2.1 builds came out. 1.5 not having support for cdma technology. The linked article states that 2.1 R2 does not have 4g support as of yet. This isn't a game stopper, in my belief, and will probally run 2.1 just fine under 3g, but I'm not taking the chance of the problem running deeper for the simple fact of that, I really like my cross platform development. With a custom 2.1 release will probably come a non-standard kernel version as well. And potential lack of being able to root right out of the box. It might also lack ports of other android devices until some official build higher than 2.1 comes out.
Not attempting to discourage anyone here from going to the evo, just trying to inform the uninformed of potential downsides. I'm personally going to the nexus, regardless of that sexy big screen and kickstand *sigh*
Thanks,
-Grant
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this might be a valid point if The evo 4g wasn't shipping with android 2.2 Froyo, which will most likely support these things *fingers crossed tho*
This is idiotic. There already is 4G support in android as evidenced by the EVO it's self and root will happen no matter what. I have no doubt that it will be running Froyo when it comes out so "other" roms won't really matter and who would want to run "other" roms when you have a Froyo base running the latest Sense UI on a HDMI streaming Snapdragon Beast. Maybe I missed the whole point of this thread but finding potential problems on a product thats not even going to be released for another couple months at the least is quite annoying. I'll be getting one if Sprint doesn't one up it's self with something better before then.
Oh by the way HTC broke compatibility with 2.1 Hero and AOSP with their 2.6.29 kernel by using their own non standard power management in kernel. This is the only flaw I can see that would validate this thread and thats if this new power management makes it into the EVO and if and when they release the kernel source. Time will tell. Not random guessing and random andorid "news".
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This is idiotic. There already is 4G support in android as evidenced by the EVO it's self and root will happen no matter what. I have no doubt that it will be running Froyo when it comes out so "other" roms won't really matter and who would want to run "other" roms when you have a Froyo base running the latest Sense UI on a HDMI streaming Snapdragon Beast. Maybe I missed the whole point of this thread but finding potential problems on a product thats not even going to be released for another couple months at the least is quite annoying. I'll be getting one if Sprint doesn't one up it's self with something better before then.
Oh by the way HTC broke compatibility with 2.1 Hero and AOSP with their 2.6.29 kernel by using their own non standard power management in kernel. This is the only flaw I can see that would validate this thread and thats if this new power management makes it into the EVO and if and when they release the kernel source. Time will tell. Not random guessing and random andorid "news".
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Thanks for your input, I disagree with everything you just said, but time will tell which one is right.
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Thanks for your input, I disagree with everything you just said, but time will tell which one is right.
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This is funny. The EVO is what it is, and will be what it will be, once it is released. Even at that time, it won't matter which one of you is right, simply because... well, it doesn't matter.
Dear all, I found this in another forum and please let the number grow!
http://www.petitiononline.com/a6262/petition.html
I would sign this if it didn't have the fact that they are obligated to provide the update, they have no obligation at all as the product in its current form with 1.5 is fit for the purpose. The 2.1 update is to provide extras in a way and not a firmware update its a complete os change. (well kind of)
I also would like the update asap but to the amount of people on probably all the development sites they are fully out numbered by the users who dont mess with the software 50 fold for the hero so HTC dont really care tbh.. and i know that for a fact
Adding new functionality to an old phone that will hamper the sales of other new 2.1 phones is the conflict any company would undergo as the projected sales are most definitely effected by an update like this!!
Defo sucks... shame HTC cant just release the sources and the pressure to bring out the rom wouldn't be as great.
@anarchyUK: I disagree that HTC aren't obligated to provide Android 2.1 for the Hero.
Had they NOT made public announcements, confirmed 'rumours' to be true in reply to probably hundreds of bloggers' queries (email or otherwise) and even stated expected release dates for the Hero 2.1 update, then one could argue that they are not obligated to provide it. However after making so many promises to Hero users and still not being able to deliver is downright pathetic of them. Nobody forced them to say 1.6 was coming to the Hero, or 2.0 for that matter, OR 2.1. They're the ones who made the announcements, and they're the ones who are obligated to stick to their word now.
I for one am ticked off to the point of never supporting them by getting an HTC phone again. It's even more infuriating when you consider that 1) the Legend has most exactly the same hardware WITH 2.1 support, and 2) independent developers have managed to put together reasonably stable 2.1 builds for both the GSM and CDMA Hero, all WITHOUT access to Hero-specific drivers/kernels or what not (I'm not sure exactly what it is modding devs need to perfect their builds, but you get the idea) that HTC have hidden away for God knows what; doesn't seem like its doing them any good, all they do is keep pushing back their release dates.
So HTC can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. I'm not signing the petition because even if they released the update in the next hour, I will not be getting it out of principle (more stubborn-ness though). I'd rather support the hard-working independent devs because at least they give a **** about Android, and not about how much money they'll get.
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They are obligated to provide a new firmware because 1.5 is BUGGY!
Nonsense.
I agree that I would love to have the 2.x update yesterday but the current 1.5 is rock solid. It never crashed on me and works like a charm.
The only reason I would like the 2.1 update is because of the improvements on the bluetooth stack and the improved voice functions.
i think they delayed 2.1 release cause they haver moved most of there developers to there new devices and the team working on the hero update is probably very small now, if anyone has noticed how buggy these 2.1 leaks are with battery drainage camera color errors, the slowness, i think its the right move for them to delay the release of the update until these issues are sorted
They are not obliged in any way to provide 2.1 because 1.5 is buggy, they are obliged to make every attempt to fix the bugs within 1.5. (uk sales of good act and eu regulations) And for the other responses saying they have announced it and that makes them obliged? are we in make believe land now?
The update is good will from HTC if anything. I think HTC releasing this when they do is a very different thing compared to other companies like nokia who would rather release 10 other variants of a phone instead of upgrading a s60 3rd edition to a 5th edition...
Considering the Hero I have is on a 24 month contract I dont really think banging on about it like people do is really worth the bother. My point being a petition is pointless.
If they're delaying it, they're delaying it for a good reason.
@anarchyuk: From your second post I got the feeling you are talking about 'obligated' in the legal sense...FYI I was talking about them making good on their word. I do realize that they are not legally obliged to provide the 2.1 or other updates, but like I said, we didn't ask for it first, they said they'd release it and got everyone's hopes up. No fault of the users to complain if HTC cannot deliver.
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From your second post I got the feeling you are talking about 'obligated' in the legal sense...FYI I was talking about them making good on their word. I do realize that they are not legally obliged to provide the 2.1 or other updates, but like I said, we didn't ask for it first, they said they'd release it and got everyone's hopes up. No fault of the users to complain if HTC cannot deliver.
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I agree in the loyalty sense they are obliged to deliver a promise, but that wasn't aimed at your post it was mainly at the "because 1.5 is buggy they have to release 2.1" train of thought.
who knows what the main reasons behind the delay are but I can guarantee it has some link to money!!
Hopefully the development section for the X10 will kick into gear and then it is bye bye to HTC phones for the time being for me!
I'd rather wait an extra month or two and get a stable, finished product than get a hastened, buggy release, another wave of whining about how evil HTC are to release a buggy software. Some people cannot be pleased.
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I'd rather wait an extra month or two and get a stable, finished product than get a hastened, buggy release, another wave of whining about how evil HTC are to release a buggy software. Some people cannot be pleased.
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Lets be clear here, HTC have released 2.1 with Sense for the Legend, and internally this device is almost identical to the Hero. Therefore, we can be reasonably certain that the reason for the delay is not because it is unfinished or buggy - at least no more so than the version they've shipped on the Legend.
IMHO, it is a marketing decision pure and simple, so that it doesn't affect early sales of the Legend and Desire. They did much the same when they released Sense UI for the Magic some months after the Hero had shipped, despite the fact that the hardware was again very similar.
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Dave
It's certainly possible, however if the hardware wasn't an issue here, we'd already have plenty of fully-working ROMs ported from the Legend. All the 2.1 ROMs I've tried so far, however, are more or less buggy, which makes me believe the situation is not that simple as it would seem. Still, I'm not a programmer, so it's just a wild guess of mine.
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It's certainly possible, however if the hardware wasn't an issue here, we'd already have plenty of fully-working ROMs ported from the Legend. All the 2.1 ROMs I've tried so far, however, are more or less buggy, which makes me believe the situation is not that simple as it would seem. Still, I'm not a programmer, so it's just a wild guess of mine.
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I didn't say that the hardware wasn't an issue - I said that the Legends hardware is almost identical to the Hero's. If HTC had already released the
kernel source for Legend, I'd wager that porting it to the Hero would be comparatively trivial (especially when compared to manually updating 2.6.27 to 2.6.29!) and we'd have fully working ROMs in well less than 2 months!
That being said, I find the latest Villain ROMs (5.2/5.3) are pretty much feature complete and the only issue I have with them is the less than stellar battery life (which I'm sure is a kernel issue).
Regards,
Dave
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That being said, I find the latest Villain ROMs (5.2/5.3) are pretty much feature complete and the only issue I have with them is the less than stellar battery life (which I'm sure is a kernel issue).
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My feelings exactly. That's why I'm not bothered much with HTC's official ROM being delayed.
maybe the battery issue is the reason it hasnt been released
Looking from a business perspective on petitions,all this will do is annoy HTC to the point where they will say "well,**** you all then!we work our asses off to give them a brilliant update and they try to force us into releasing it sooner.They can stay on 1.5 and we will concentrate on the newest models"
Everyone is getting agitated because they stupidly believed rumours,now they have supposedly said June.until I see on Twitter they have released it,I wont believe any new threads on the 2.1 update!
Basically a petition will just piss them off.How much would you like some people telling you to work fastr?
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It's certainly possible, however if the hardware wasn't an issue here, we'd already have plenty of fully-working ROMs ported from the Legend. All the 2.1 ROMs I've tried so far, however, are more or less buggy, which makes me believe the situation is not that simple as it would seem. Still, I'm not a programmer, so it's just a wild guess of mine.
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You're under a misapprehension here. Current custom 2.1 roms aren't buggy because the leaked htc code is buggy. They're buggy because the custom 2.1 rom builders don't yet have access to the 2.1 gsm Hero kernel. All they have to go on are the old kernel & kernels for alternative hardware. It is obvious, more than likely, why 2.1 hasn't been released yet.
Threads about this are boring enough at the best of times, but when posters back up false claims with unsound arguments it dilutes what little value the thread might have had remaining.
Threads about this are boring enough at the best of times, but when posters back up false claims with unsound arguments it dilutes what little value the thread might have had remaining.
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...word!
THAT won't happen. I don't even think HTC will read those petitions, no stakeholder cares about them so it's just wasted time. And thinking that such a petition could cause HTC to react childish as you said is just not realistic. They are in it for the money, and they need happy customers. Thats why we will get 2.1 at some point.
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Looking from a business perspective on petitions,all this will do is annoy HTC to the point where they will say "well,**** you all then!we work our asses off to give them a brilliant update and they try to force us into releasing it sooner.They can stay on 1.5 and we will concentrate on the newest models"
Everyone is getting agitated because they stupidly believed rumours,now they have supposedly said June.until I see on Twitter they have released it,I wont believe any new threads on the 2.1 update!
Basically a petition will just piss them off.How much would you like some people telling you to work fastr?
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As reported by androidandme.com, It seems as though an agreement has been made for Verizon and Motorola to have the first phone to ship* with Gingerbread (2.5).
http://androidandme.com/2010/09/news/motorola-and-verizon-score-gingerbread-exclusive/
As stated above, the wording seems to be first shipped* with GB, not necessarily first device to receive the update. With Verizon having the largest ad campaign for Android phones, coupled with the farthest deviation from the stock OS, it does a lot to harm (dis-unify) the Brand Identity of Android.
Read it, and not only is everything in that article speculation; It doesn't say a damn thing about Verizon/Motorola getting a Gingerbread deal (with any real proof). In fact, nothing in that article has any proof.
I hate this read.
So far the nexus has gotten everything first. Lets hope we get a taste of gingerbread as well.
The N1 will be among the first to get it, does it really matter that much which phone ships with it first?
There is so much misinformation that article, out reads like the onion.
Pfft, whats the big deal.. someone will be first, why not motorola.
Besides, since we're here at xda, u'll get the gingerbread before those phones hit the market anyway.
And I'm sure that google won't let exclusivity for android phones. Not that it's even possible with an open-source system.
IF any other crappy phone takes Gingerbread BEFORE my Nexus...
I´ll put it on Ebay and pick an Iphone4:
At least I´ll have the security that my phone will be up to date on time and that at least it will deliver what promises: antenna malfunction included.
Sounds like more mis-information The Nexus 1 will hopefully get it 1st
the nexus is googles official dev phone. which means gingerbread is most likely being developed using a nexus so i doubt any other phones will recieve it first unless google has another dev phone by then
There´s only one positive answer to the thread´s question:
-Motorola Strike= Nexus Two
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1- Besides, since we're here at xda, u'll get the gingerbread before those phones hit the market anyway.
2- And I'm sure that google won't let exclusivity for android phones. Not that it's even possible with an open-source system.
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if google holds onto the source until a phone ships with gingerbread then not only would that phone have it before the n1 (1) but that would also give android exclusivitiy (2) which in the long run may actually really help both android and google (and of course motorola and verizon ).
Now obviously roms leak all the time and some hacked up version would land on the n1 but to me it seems that doesn't count. AOSP and OTA are what count for an update being "official"...no?
and really...who cares?
Why I think the Nexus One will see Gingerbread first?
Because Motorola loads up their devices with Bloatware. Motorola can not even release the Milestone with 2.2 until Q1 2011 to get it to work with the MotoBLur software.
Dude I don't understand why some of yall actually think the N1 won't see gingerbread first. I'm almost sure Google has stated somewhere that it is. Also the N1 is the google developer phone. Even if it's not there to buy anymore, it's still google's developer phone..... they have said that.
We got 2.2 first, months before some. Why wouldn't we get 2.5/.3.0 (whatever they decide to call it) first? We will...
Being old I long since lost the need to dickslap. Who cares who gets it first, more power to them. There is no doubt we will get it in short order regardless of whether we are actually the first. That is in contrast to many which will never recieve it without downloading it via a custom rom which the vast majority are not even aware they can do. I am glad I am where I am with phones, there is still not another piece of hardware out there I percieve as being worth a spend. I suspect as it continues to age another developer phone will be annointed and I'll be there. Its good to keep in mind that google said they were getting out of the business model, not out of developing a phone period or having a part in the development of a new handset.
ok, so here is how android works. Google makes/upgrades Android, this is a very basic version (stock OS). This version is only able to work with the dev phones. It is then up to the responsobility of the maufacturere (moto, htc, etc) to get it to work with their phone. So the instant that gingerbread is completed it only works for the Nexus One, it then takes weeks/months for other manufactures to get it working on their specific phones. So too fool yourself into thinking that the nexus one wont get the Os update first is just false. The dev phones will ALWAYS get the updates first, assmuming the hardware can handle it.
P.S. I concider the moto droid a dev phone even though it officially was not one.
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Dude I don't understand why some of yall actually think the N1 won't see gingerbread first. I'm almost sure Google has stated somewhere that it is. Also the N1 is the google developer phone. Even if it's not there to buy anymore, it's still google's developer phone..... they have said that.
We got 2.2 first, months before some. Why wouldn't we get 2.5/.3.0 (whatever they decide to call it) first? We will...
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Techincally when N1 got 2.2 the "developer phone" was the mytouch, so the current dev phone doesn't always get the update first.
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JCopernicus said:
Techincally when N1 got 2.2 the "developer phone" was the mytouch, so the current dev phone doesn't always get the update first.
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Actually the dev phone was the HTC magic, mytouch was a carrier version. Technically your right, but I'm guessing as soon as Google's baby, the nexus, was released it took over dev status even if not officially announced
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didnt the deal say something about the first phone to keyword SHIP with gingerbread, I have confidence that the N1 will be the first phone to get Gingerbread
Everyone is impatiently looking forward to Froyo coming to our beloved phones, BUT I have to say that while it would be nice, I am most looking forward to gingerbread.
Rumors are the vanilla gingerbread will be released in the next 2 months-ish, well, according to this link.
Just wondering everyone elses thoughts on gingerbread and what it could possibly mean to our phones. Is Froyo even worth getting worked up over when it is already going to be outdated in the next few months?
It would be nice if they did just skip froyo and went straight to gingerbread, but I'm pretty sure that won't be the case. More likely that they will release froyo in a month or so (or by tomorrow like everyone said), and a gingerbread update will take another 6 months.
I think everybody's just a bit angry that Froyo isn't on the Galaxy S line when it's on every other new phone that's out or about to come out now which is making it seem like we're all super excited for it when we're really just super anxious to have phones that can do what all the other phones can do right now. Hell even my G1 has Froyo (via CM6).
I am indeed super excited to Gingerbread. I can't wait to see what it can do so I can flaunt it in the face of iSlaves.
I can see that, and it is true. The way I see it though is that once GingerBread is out, it's going to be so much easier for all manufacturers to update their phones. Mostly due to the fact that each UI (Sense/Touchwiz/Xperia) will simply be an over lay on the phone, keeping the back end of things intact.
Galaxy S will not see an update pass 2.2. Samsung don't like producing updates because that means financial allocation spent on already sold equipment. They're going to have a new Galaxy phone, and that phone will have Android 2.+ or 3.0.
Samsung even had a survey about whether customers expect updates, even if that meant they had to PAY EXTRA for them. I took the survey, and got my $20 mailed to me within 2wks. I found it nuts that in the survey, they asked "how long from purchase would you expect updates to you phone?" The first choice was 2 months, the last choice was 2 years. To me that survey exposed their thinking about upgrades.
I am going to agree. I don't think that Samsung will update past 2.2
Look how long Froyo is taking. HTC and Motorola have already put Froyo on most of their Android phones while Samsung can't do it for their one device.
I bought my Vibrant 3rd party, off-contract because I expect to purchase a 3.x Android device in 2011, and I don't want to be tied to a 2-yr agreement with a phone that gets shoddy support.
I will probably aim for an HTC device
Well I never wanted froyo anyway. I always wanted to get gingerbread cause froyo its just a minor release anyway compared to gingerbread.
i have to agree with that last post. my vibrant works great as is and the way i see it, the big signifigant changes will come with 3.0.
and to comment on nexgins post, i believe that we will have 3.0, while it may not be official i'm sure some it will be ported over somehow.