HTC has just released our source codes
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What ramifications will result?
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What ramifications will result?
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New custom kernels based off the stock .32.17 kernel.
I can only imagine
Im just praying yo the father above for a sweet asop kernel with all the latest fix-ins.
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Custom kernels! More things i can do to my phone. My wife will be so happy...
Ziggy & King's kernels are already patched up to 2.6.32.25 and behave dramatically better than the .17 kernel. Unlike ROMs where the source code is critical to make any customization, kernels can be patched up higher without requiring HTC's source code....
So unless some functionality gets screwed up like tethering which can now be repaired by looking at HTC's 2.6.32.17 source code or something like that I am not sure why this is such big news?
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Ziggy & King's kernels are already patched up to 2.6.32.25 and behave dramatically better than the .17 kernel. Unlike ROMs where the source code is critical to make any customization, kernels can be patched up higher without requiring HTC's source code....
So unless some functionality gets screwed up like tethering which can now be repaired by looking at HTC's 2.6.32.17 source code or something like that I am not sure why this is such big news?
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its big news because HTC tends to be pretty douchy with their code. its high time they have it released IMO
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Ziggy & King's kernels are already patched up to 2.6.32.25 and behave dramatically better than the .17 kernel. Unlike ROMs where the source code is critical to make any customization, kernels can be patched up higher without requiring HTC's source code....
So unless some functionality gets screwed up like tethering which can now be repaired by looking at HTC's 2.6.32.17 source code or something like that I am not sure why this is such big news?
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its news because i hate sense roms
and its always good new when the maker of your phone releases their source
What is the significance of "patching up"?
I recently started using the .17 kernel and things are much better than before (battery/charging-wise). Would These patched up kernels have the same benefits recently introduced? or are they just souped up .15 kernels with a different name?
I guess I am asking does the name (kernel version) really mean anything?
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Ziggy & King's kernels are already patched up to 2.6.32.25 and behave dramatically better than the .17 kernel. Unlike ROMs where the source code is critical to make any customization, kernels can be patched up higher without requiring HTC's source code....
So unless some functionality gets screwed up like tethering which can now be repaired by looking at HTC's 2.6.32.17 source code or something like that I am not sure why this is such big news?
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What is the significance of "patching up"?
I recently started using the .17 kernel and things are much better than before (battery/charging-wise). Would These patched up kernels have the same benefits recently introduced? or are they just souped up .15 kernels with a different name?
I guess I am asking does the name (kernel version) really mean anything?
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I have used ziggy's .25 kernel. My subjective opinion is it is better than the versions htc puts out. If htc's version of the kernel was better I guess their rom would also be better than the roms cooked by the devs here, now wouldn't it?
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I have used ziggy's .25 kernel. My subjective opinion is it is better than the versions htc puts out. If htc's version of the kernel was better I guess their rom would also be better than the roms cooked by the devs here, now wouldn't it?
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Have you tried the .17? I've tried both and IMHO it smokes the "patched up" kernels in every way. Just saying
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Have you tried the .17? I've tried both and IMHO it smokes the "patched up" kernels in every way. Just saying
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Agreed...I've yet to try any "patched up" custom kernels that the fast charging actually worked well on. It gets a little faster, but in the stock .17 it cuts charge times by more than half. So there must be something in the source that the cooks didn't know about yet.
I just cant wait for this kernel to be undervolted a bit and overclocked abit
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Have you tried the .17? I've tried both and IMHO it smokes the "patched up" kernels in every way. Just saying
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I tried both on the Desire Z port with Sense 2.5 (left vintage sense behind a few weeks ago and never looked back) and the performance difference is extremely skewed in the 1114 Ziggy kernel's favor.
Maybe its not noticable on the vintage sense because the old sense based ROMs are less efficient to start with. On the Z port, I got 1721 quad score at stock speed and 1764 OC'd at 1.113. I did not get anywhere remotely close to that using the .17 htc kernel, which is not OC'able anyways.
I do test everything extremely vigorously and am a quad score speed freak - u will notice that from my signature... Dont care about battery life since I have multiple batteries... so I have no idea about that comparison.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8977228&postcount=316
- the above post might enlighten people more.
I've found the stock one to be at least as stable (never had it lag) as anyone else's. And the fast charge is unmatched. Quadrant scores, to me, are just numbers with little to no bearing on actual performance. I've seen high scores that still lag.
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Quad, linpack and neocore scores are the only objective measures of pure performance that I know of. Everything else is too subjective and touchy-feely imho. And to be honest my subjective opinion is that the devs here cook better ROMs and kernels than htc does.
The reason I got an android phone besides my iphone (even though iOS is infinitely more smooth and slick than any droid ROM I have seen) is that the droid platform is more about fun, true customization (not just changing wallpapers like in the iphone), and similar thrills for me... So if its jerky but fast like a Ducatti, I'll take it...
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I've found the stock one to be at least as stable (never had it lag) as anyone else's. And the fast charge is unmatched. Quadrant scores, to me, are just numbers with little to no bearing on actual performance. I've seen high scores that still lag.
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+1 in that
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this is using ud with kings cfs2 kernel at 113 w compcache
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I have to say i used to get like 1750 with an overclocked kernel and its running just as smooth is not smoother with the new stock kernel and im only getting like a 1300 tops if i recall right.
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I've found the stock one to be at least as stable (never had it lag) as anyone else's. And the fast charge is unmatched. Quadrant scores, to me, are just numbers with little to no bearing on actual performance. I've seen high scores that still lag.
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i understand gingerbread is awesome...i understand it opens up some new territory. but the stock gingerbread and all the leaks out right now are all RFS. i tried the samsprint the other day. cool rom, love the way gingerbread looks, but its still RFS and its extremely laggy compared to ext4. just shifting through menus and whatnot was super slow let alone opening and closing apps. just the day to day functions are bogged down so my question is...why even put it on your phone until they make a ext4 version of it?
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i understand gingerbread is awesome...i understand it opens up some new territory. but the stock gingerbread and all the leaks out right now are all RFS. i tried the samsprint the other day. cool rom, love the way gingerbread looks, but its still RFS and its extremely laggy compared to ext4. just shifting through menus and whatnot was super slow let alone opening and closing apps. just the day to day functions are bogged down so my question is...why even put it on your phone until they make a ext4 version of it?
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Have you tried EF02 build. It very fast! EE03 build was a piece of crap
You need to try i1 rom its ef02 samsprint was crap compared to this it doesn't even feel rfs
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i understand gingerbread is awesome...i understand it opens up some new territory. but the stock gingerbread and all the leaks out right now are all RFS. i tried the samsprint the other day. cool rom, love the way gingerbread looks, but its still RFS and its extremely laggy compared to ext4. just shifting through menus and whatnot was super slow let alone opening and closing apps. just the day to day functions are bogged down so my question is...why even put it on your phone until they make a ext4 version of it?
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I agree. I'm on ef02 and there is no lag at all. Its as fast as most the ext4 roms I've tried, and smother in most cases.
EE03 on the other hand, made my wifes moment seem quick. Give the new leak a try, if you havent. The only thing I miss is the keyboard fix.
Edit: forgott to mention I'm usung marcusant i1 rom.
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Plus flash (with 10.3...plus a hulu hack ) plays sooo much better. Resolution and framerate. I believe its hardware accelerated playback, could be wrong. But it looks DAMN good!
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Plus flash (with 10.3...plus a hulu hack ) plays sooo much better. Resolution and framerate. I believe its hardware accelerated playback, could be wrong. But it looks DAMN good!
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I have flash 10.3 on froyo..
Also what hulu hack works with flash 10.3?
Yup what these guys said I'm on marcusant i1 rom and its crazy fast just so u know the bonsai team are testing there ext4 ef02 rom right now. I'm just waiting for that so I can try it out. Ohh and here's a benchmark score first run on marqusant (rfs) rom
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Such a big deal because it's really stable and fast, as opposed to their other POS builds that devs have to fix for them.
Gingerbread is the latest OS, so everyone wants it. Though, many reasons include Netflix working, FM radio capabilities, etc.
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i understand gingerbread is awesome...i understand it opens up some new territory. but the stock gingerbread and all the leaks out right now are all RFS. i tried the samsprint the other day. cool rom, love the way gingerbread looks, but its still RFS and its extremely laggy compared to ext4. just shifting through menus and whatnot was super slow let alone opening and closing apps. just the day to day functions are bogged down so my question is...why even put it on your phone until they make a ext4 version of it?
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Regarding EF02, there are a few upgrades on the Sammy apps like email and calendar, but the real improvements are under the hood. It's smooth as butter, way better than any other stock rom and at least as good as the best Froyo EXT4. Perhaps it doesn't produce the fastest benchmarks, but programs load fast and screens transition smoothly. That's much more important to me than measuring the length of my di....er I mean benchmarking
Plus, I've NEVER gotten battery life this good on any rom.
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I have flash 10.3 on froyo..
Also what hulu hack works with flash 10.3?
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Yes, I had it on froyo too, it's at least 2-3x better on gingerbread. Give a vevo video a try at 480p fullscreen, amazing. The hulu hack is a bit of my own creation. I found the libs for 10.3.185.24 (latest market) hacked, but they get replaced on bootup. So I wrote a script in /system/etc/init.d/ that copies the hacked ones from /data/flash/ (where I put the hacked ones) to /data/data/com.adobe.flashplayer/libs/ and voiala, hack stays on reboot
EDIT: And even on froyo I was oced to 1.3 and on ext4 no journaling. Gbs still faster with flash (and other things).
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Yes, I had it on froyo too, it's at least 2-3x better on gingerbread. Give a vevo video a try at 480p fullscreen, amazing. The hulu hack is a bit of my own creation. I found the libs for 10.3.185.24 (latest market) hacked, but they get replaced on bootup. So I wrote a script in /system/etc/init.d/ that copies the hacked ones from /data/flash/ (where I put the hacked ones) to /data/data/com.adobe.flashplayer/libs/ and voiala, hack stays on reboot
EDIT: And even on froyo I was oced to 1.3 and on ext4 no journaling. Gbs still faster with flash (and other things).
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do you have a zip for your version because the original hulu hack that worked with 10.1 doesn't work with the new version of flash...i always get the "I have no flash" icon on all flash content when i try that hulu hack
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do you have a zip for your version because the original hulu hack that worked with 10.1 doesn't work with the new version of flash...i always get the "I have no flash" icon on all flash content when i try that hulu hack
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+1
I am glad to read the reports that GB does actually make the phone work faster and more efficiently. As powerful as the hardware Samsung built is, the software has to take advantage. Froyo already did a lot in that department but bring on the treats!
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i understand gingerbread is awesome...i understand it opens up some new territory. but the stock gingerbread and all the leaks out right now are all RFS. i tried the samsprint the other day. cool rom, love the way gingerbread looks, but its still RFS and its extremely laggy compared to ext4. just shifting through menus and whatnot was super slow let alone opening and closing apps. just the day to day functions are bogged down so my question is...why even put it on your phone until they make a ext4 version of it?
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Yanno, I understand the benefits of ext4, but if clicking through menus is laggy, it isn't the file system. File system access times only impact performance when the file system is...being accessed. Once a program is in memory, the rfs vs ext4 issue isn't nearly as significant (excluding, naturally, whenever the program accesses something not in memory).
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i understand gingerbread is awesome...i understand it opens up some new territory. but the stock gingerbread and all the leaks out right now are all RFS. i tried the samsprint the other day. cool rom, love the way gingerbread looks, but its still RFS and its extremely laggy compared to ext4. just shifting through menus and whatnot was super slow let alone opening and closing apps. just the day to day functions are bogged down so my question is...why even put it on your phone until they make a ext4 version of it?
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How about you try the newest build? Improved battery life, better data speeds (debatable), way faster OS, more features. Yeah not a big deal at all.
Kinda like asking why upgrade from windows vista to windows 7. Also, i know we all like fast phones but to be able to get the benefits of an upgraded OS the fractional extra amount of time it takes shouldn't bother us. If we spend that much time on our phones that it actually makes a difference. Well cant help us with that i guess.
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i understand gingerbread is awesome...i understand it opens up some new territory. but the stock gingerbread and all the leaks out right now are all RFS. i tried the samsprint the other day. cool rom, love the way gingerbread looks, but its still RFS and its extremely laggy compared to ext4. just shifting through menus and whatnot was super slow let alone opening and closing apps. just the day to day functions are bogged down so my question is...why even put it on your phone until they make a ext4 version of it?
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Im on ext4
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Im on ext4
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Are you holding back on us
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I didn't think GB was a big deal until this latest leak. Now after trying out how much it improves performance, can't wait for the official to drop.
I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.
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I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.
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it's impossible for something to be perfect and without having a single issue. but the rom with the least issues in my opinion would be Virtuous Unity, a great rom developed by the hardworking Virtuous team. that rom is the closest you can get to perfect. try it.
website: http://www.virtuousrom.com/
thread is in the mytouch 4g development section.
crazykas said:
I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.
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What is it that you are wanting out of a rom? Different people like different things, and while some like vu (myself included), others want a more vanilla Android experience. Which would point closer to cm.
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Depends on your preference. I like sense and the one nearest to perfect for me is Virtuous Unity. Like saranhai said nothing is perfect nothing will be. The stock rom that comes with mytouch is not perfect at all. Some roms have a tad little bit of lag some just a little bit more. Something about every rom is different. Like eqjunkie829 said. You could want sense like me, him and alotof other people. Or you can go with a more aosp/vanilla rom.
How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?
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How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?
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no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.
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no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.
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agree, mysense its garbage.
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saranhai said:
no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.
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No offense or anything but im trying to help the guy rathar than say. "depends" "its all about preference" or "use the search button"
By you saying it sucks is too general. What does "suck" mean?
His answers will allow us to pinpoint him in the right direction. Other wise I might as well copy and paste all the links i saved.
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No offense or anything but im trying to help the guy rathar than say. "depends" "its all about preference" or "use the search button"
By you saying it sucks is too general. What does "suck" mean?
His answers will allow us to pinpoint him in the right direction. Other wise I might as well copy and paste all the links i saved.
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well, suck as in crappy UI, terrible lag, battery draining etc.
yes, i know you're trying to help him, i'm just saying, that the stock UI is really bad.
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How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?
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I bought this 3 months ago.I like a battery saving Rom.I know there are faster Roms,but current speed (official GB update)doesn't feel bad for me.Also, there is a problem of camera quality of this GB update.
Easy. CM7.
Nothing is more stable and more battery efficient than CM7.
Can't go wrong.
Hmmmm, without a single issue?
I don't think such an animal exists in our modern world...
From my experience, using the stock sense that came with the phone had by far far far more issues than cm6, 7 and 7.1- fc almost every phone conversation followed by signal loss, flaky wifi, lots of problems with the (nice) automatic profile switching etc.
So whatever you install, you're probably going to be "issuewise" much better than stock. Perhaps you'll have to sweat a little more to make it look as neat as sense, though.
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MIUI. I got tired of sense roms, that drains battery a lot and makes phone lag after some use.
MIUI is fast, stupid fast actually, and i'm @ 1 GHz CPU. Super customizable , good for battery save.
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Easy. CM7.
Nothing is more stable and more battery efficient than CM7.
+1
Can't go wrong.
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I bought this 3 months ago.I like a battery saving Rom.I know there are faster Roms,but current speed (official GB update)doesn't feel bad for me.Also, there is a problem of camera quality of this GB update.
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Try Cyanogen mod (CM7). Like a few suggested!
All my cam apps work great on the stable version.
Battery life is probably the best of all the ROMs because of its simplicity.
This ROM is all about functionality
Although I use MIUI. Which also has great battery life (1day 6hrs) it has its quirks with some camera apps. I just wanted a sleeker user interface
I use a simple cam app anyways and I love the customization. My main goal for rom was battery life, & speed ( i was on 2.2 and it was very laggy out of the box) I just got my phone 2 months ago.
My last smart phone was an htc fuze lol and my previous phone was a simple nokia bar phone.
So I was totally oblivious to rooting prior to 2 months ago.
cyanogen
well I'm using cyanogen 7 stable version and I don't have any issue
running TDJ 2.2.0 just to switch things up a little bit
10+ hours and just now hitting 50%, so far so good
TDJ's port of that rom works wonders
Virtuous Unity for me, never one single issue, great performance, features, speed, battery life.
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Depends on your preference. I like sense and the one nearest to perfect for me is Virtuous Unity. Like saranhai said nothing is perfect nothing will be. The stock rom that comes with mytouch is not perfect at all. Some roms have a tad little bit of lag some just a little bit more. Something about every rom is different. Like eqjunkie829 said. You could want sense like me, him and alotof other people. Or you can go with a more aosp/vanilla rom.
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Virtuous unity was ok, not perfect by any means. It was a heavy rom, some times leggy and had some random FC's I never got in other roms. For a more stock sense/espresso hybrid (with out the stupid blocky apps), royal glacier has to be the most stable rom I have tried. I am currently running Faux's nexus rom and I love it so far, no issues. So if your into AOSP stuff, I would look into that.
Faux nexus 1.3.1
So I have been using faux's nexus 1.3.1 ROM for about a week now, I calibrated the battery right after I flashed it using the battery calibration app, and the battery life is amazing. It lasted 1 day 5 hours according to my battery stats right after I calibrated. Also it has been one of the most stable ROMs I have used besides royalglacier. No FC's or random reboots. One thing I have learned, which may be a total noob thing but whatever, is if you are going from sense to AOSP, you cannot restore any data after you flash your rom. You have to use titanium backup or the mybackup pro app to get your apps, SMS, call logs and the likes back. It might be common sense but i never knew that and it kept me away from aosp roms for a long time!
I just want to share my opinion based on some reading.
Till now Samsung was not able to release bug free ICS ROM, despite the 6 months of working.
Also, I am noticing several complaints in both forums the nexus s and galaxy nexus.
ICS has proved to be slow compared to gingerbread, also it seems to be more battery consuming.
For now I am sticking to GB, maybe we should wait till Google releases the 4.0.4 update, even though I am not so positive.
Google its your job now.
So what do you think??
Dude!! HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER ROCKS?
4.0.4 has already been released and ics Is contrary to all the points you brought out
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Samsung's ICS is bug free, but it is slower than GB and consumes more battery (as you said)... That is why I am using GB...
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Dude under which rocks have you been living?
4.0.4 has already been released and ics Is contrary to all the points you brought out
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4.0.4 was released only for nexus s and galaxy nexus, still there are plenty of bugs to be cured. BTW, have you read about connection problems in galaxy nexus due to the 4.0.4 update.
no, ICS is not a failure.
try it yourself and you'll get what i mean.
You are judging and making conclusions based on the complaints by the minorities, and that just doesn't make sense to me...
Look at the majority who are willing to try out the awesomeness of ICS custom roms, look at the number of views of ICS rom threads in this forum, look at the positive, encouraging comments people write to the devs. All these combined should carry some gravitas, right?
Oh yeah, btw, 4.0.4 is already out, take a look at cyanogen 9. It's just that Samsung is not currently implementing this update into the stock roms.
Unfortunately Samsung implementation of ics is an epic failure. Slow and horrible. But that's Samsung and its pretty early days (3months!?)
Plenty of custom ics roms (cm9 specifically) that prove what ics can do when freed from touchwiz Samsung tweaked rubbish.
4.04 been out a while. Try a custom rom you won't go back
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no, ICS is not a failure.
try it yourself and you'll get what i mean.
You are judging and making conclusions based on the complaints by the minorities, and that just doesn't make sense to me...
Look at the majority who are willing to try out the awesomeness of ICS custom roms, look at the number of views of ICS rom threads in this forum, look at the positive, encouraging comments people write to the devs. All these combined should carry some gravitas, right?
Oh yeah, btw, 4.0.4 is already out, take a look at cyanogen 9. It's just that Samsung is not currently implementing this update into the stock roms.
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Don't forget that we payed $700 for Samsung, Samsung is the one responsible for giving us updates. Also, xda devs are only willing to improve and make our experience richer.
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Unfortunately Samsung implementation of ics is an epic failure. Slow and horrible. But that's Samsung and its pretty early days (3months!?)
Plenty of custom ics roms (cm9 specifically) that prove what ics can do when freed from touchwiz Samsung tweaked rubbish.
4.04 been out a while. Try a custom rom you won't go back
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CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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Dark Emotion said:
Samsung's ICS is bug free, but it is slower than GB and consumes more battery (as you said)... That is why I am using GB...
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Hm! Don't know what is going on with your device but here it's nowhere near slow, and battery? Well it consumes same amount as in GB, no way more.
This ICS and impleneted HW acceleration and other stuffs kept me to stick with Android for little while longer actually, just when i was thinking about switching back to iOS it came and successfully purchased me, for some time the least.
And Samsung had put/implemented ICS exactly the way they wanted to be. Some few peoples opinion and nagging won't care them the bit, nor they should be bothered about it.
Besides, what's the point of this thread
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CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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Not getting terrible battery life here. Its same as stock really. Try siyah see if that helps you out or do a full wipe etc etc
To the op
Samsungs ics roms are late and hide most benefits of ics which is why I dislike them
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And screen-on time is...?
P.S. I didn't say that CM9 (or any other ICS) has terrible battery life, I just said that it is not as good as GB... And I always do a full wipe when flashing ROMs
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And screen-on time is...?
P.S. I didn't say that CM9 (or any other ICS) has terrible battery life, I just said that it is not as good as GB... And I always do a full wipe when flashing ROMs
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I love ICS, run now on LUX LP4 and loving it.
Always do a full wipe and you have no problems
ICS is absolutely no failure in my opinion
I have installed CM9 + siyah 3.0
I have very good battery life (yeah sligtly less then gb, but i think the cause is that everithing is beta) but i have increased 10 times the responsiveness of my phone.. Everithing is better with ics..
ICS definitely no failure
I don't share the views on speed or battery life - in my view there is little tangible difference on my SGS2 - if anything I would say speed is a little better. Battery life depends on so many variables that it's almost impossible to be objective.
In terms of the update itself, it is definitely an improvement but still also a slight disappointment. In evolutionary terms we have crawled out of the primordial soup and lost the fins but we are still grooming each other looking for scurf and wondering where the smell comes from when we poke our fingers up our bottoms. The quest for fire remains a distant dream...
I can't vote in the poll therefore because there needs to be a middle option.
ICS is not a failure, actually it is a good path for android to travel. What let us down is the distribution method chosen by the oem and even by google itself. The purpose of bringing ics is not even satisfied by all the smartphones which got ics updates.
ICS is good.
Implementation of samsung/sony/htc is not good.
My $0.02, based on testing, and total indifference to "oo-Samsung-sux-lolz-I-demand-newest-FW-yesterday-Samsung-owes-me-I-paid-so-much-CM9-rox".
Failure? No. But not cool, awesome, rocking nor deserving of some of the fanboy praise posted here, in my opinion.
I've tried many, many stock and custom ICS, AOKP and CM9, every kernel and every combination (36 flashes since 30th March, to be precise). Not a single combination has been smoother or qucker than my daily driver or my next two preferences - krinyo's SlimROM, rohit's GB MIUI and Insanity build 57.
Battery life isn't a dealbreaker for me, lag is. I don't have bloatware, don't use mail, am not on Twitter or Facebook, haven't had TW launcher on my phone for 9 months. Even stripped down like this, my GB-based ROMs outperform everything else. And they're a hell of a lot more stable too.
As always, each to their own. But I haven't found any reason to leave GB after all this testing. Certainly no problem in refuting the "once you've tried 4.0.4 you'll never go back" spiel, which is lazy generalization based on nothing.
Unlike many, I wasn't wetting myself in anticipation of ICS, hence haven't needed to change my pants.
And the "poll" is ridiculous, pointless and useless, and not even a poll - there is middle ground.
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WooW, that is not bad at all mate, for me i've never get over 3 hours screen on time before
i might test cm9 out
can i also ask what kernel are u using?
I been searching just can't find the ICS ROM want can someone tell me my possible choices please?
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I been searching just can't find the ICS ROM want can someone tell me my possible choices please?
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That's a tough question because it depends on individual taste. There are ROMs for those who like to customize themselves, there are others which are heavily customized out-of-the-box. When I first started loading ICS ROMs on my KF, I tested 3-4 and picked one of the less customized ones.
I'm sorry to be vague, but it wouldn't be fair to all the great devs for our device to single out just one of them. So backup your stuff, experiment, and do a full wipe and factory reset between each one!
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I been searching just can't find the ICS ROM want can someone tell me my possible choices please?
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Try glazed ics. Right now it is the smoothest and nicest out of the box, it also helps that this is by far the fastest rom I have tried
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gedeROM is fast and has Linaro which gives a performance boost.
Glazed ICS is about the same but it includes visual mods.
Android Open Kang Project provides a lot of customizable settings and the last time I used it with some apps the buttons (back, home, apps) would get tiny.
I use gedeROM as I prefer the default ICS appearance.
Everyone will have their opinion's but all the rom's and the developers are great and much better than stock. I have tried most of them, and have settled on eyecandy. Bullet fast and the best graphics by far. Gederom is a close second - at least for me, but honestly just try a few and make your own mind up. Backup your KF first in case you run into issues....
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gedeROM is fast and has Linaro which gives a performance boost.
Glazed ICS is about the same but it includes visual mods.
Android Open Kang Project provides a lot of customizable settings and the last time I used it with some apps the buttons (back, home, apps) would get tiny.
I use gedeROM as I prefer the default ICS appearance.
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I've tried all three of these roms and completely agree. I started with gedeROM and progressed to AOKP then Glazed. All fantastic roms, but had to go back to the simplicity and reliability of gedeROM. It is the most stable IMO and the dev is great at updating.
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Solid ROM
I installed the AOKP ROM from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614004
Milestone 6 is really solid and very stable. My girlfriend uses the kindle daily and loves it.
The flash process was also very simple. Just use the kindle fire utility and then flash the ROM following the instructions.
I personally prefer CM9 based on SGT7 framework
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I personally prefer CM9 based on SGT7 framework
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Same here.
I've tried gederom, AOKP Milestone 6 (which is my second favorite), and a few others, but hands down 'CM9 based on SGT7 framework' is my favorite.
It's very stable, fast, customizable, and the developer is very responsive and provides updates regularly (often twice a week).
Unprompted said:
gedeROM is fast and has Linaro which gives a performance boost.
Glazed ICS is about the same but it includes visual mods.
Android Open Kang Project provides a lot of customizable settings and the last time I used it with some apps the buttons (back, home, apps) would get tiny.
I use gedeROM as I prefer the default ICS appearance.
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If you use the default glazed look it is the same as stock cm9 also I have used the gederom cm9 and it is no where near as fast as glazed. Do an antutu benchmark on gede and look at the ram score it it should be in the 800-900 range, now do the same with glazed it will be in the 1000-1100 range. Hence glazed is much faster. I like gederom but it does not perform as well as glazed does.
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roffiscoder said:
I been searching just can't find the ICS ROM want can someone tell me my possible choices please?
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gedeROM, no question.
k28king1 said:
If you use the default glazed look it is the same as stock cm9 also I have used the gederom cm9 and it is no where near as fast as glazed. Do an antutu benchmark on gede and look at the ram score it it should be in the 800-900 range, now do the same with glazed it will be in the 1000-1100 range. Hence glazed is much faster. I like gederom but it does not perform as well as glazed does.
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I was running Gedemis's Gederom V1.7 and found it to be very good, but thought I would give EyeCandy 2.0 a try... so far I am very impressed with it - very stable, very customizable, awesome HD graphics and much faster results using both Quadrant Benchmark (3014) and AnTuTu Benchmark (6514).
It also has V6 Supercharger built in which allows you to tweak all sorts of settings which certainly has helped me KF. So far I am very impressed...
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bflobills said:
I was running Gedemis's Gederom V1.7 and found it to be very good, but thought I would give EyeCandy 2.0 a try... so far I am very impressed with it - very stable, very customizable, awesome HD graphics and much faster results using both Quadrant Benchmark (3014) and AnTuTu Benchmark (6514).
It also has V6 Supercharger built in which allows you to tweak all sorts of settings which certainly has helped me KF. So far I am very impressed...
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Eye candy and glazed are pretty much the same from just different customizations from the different devs. Same scores too. They are both better than gederom.
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k28king1 said:
Eye candy and glazed are pretty much the same from just different customizations from the different devs. Same scores too. They are both better than gederom.
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I wouldn't say that they are better. I've gotten higher benchmark scores than that with gede. Take benchmarks with a grain of salt though. I've used all the roms in the development section right now and they are all almost identical in real world use.
Which of ICS is the most un-customized and runs smoothest. I not a fun of plain old android. Can I access the play store and amazon with out any issues like installing and playing games?
I tried install the Gederom V1.7, I can able boot to ICS but once I enter TWRP recovery mode then reboot back normal boot and I kept getting a corrupted Gederom ROM non bootable. It seems not working for my Kindle fire. Someone telling me use permission fix and I did a million times. Still unable boot into Gederom ROM.
I gave up, I went Eye Candy v2.0 and it works very nicely. Heavy graphics like icons, It is not my type taste and I went GlazedICS worked well for me. Everything run smooth and snippy (v6 tun-able and PDroid security combined). Im happy with the GlazedICS.
veeman said:
I wouldn't say that they are better. I've gotten higher benchmark scores than that with gede. Take benchmarks with a grain of salt though. I've used all the roms in the development section right now and they are all almost identical in real world use.
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I agree veeman, pretty much the same!
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Ive recently downgraded back to CM7 GB. ICS just has too many bugs and it seems im the only one who seems to think its "slow" or jerky at times. I encourage you if you just want your phone to work and be as fast as it can be to go back to CM7. It seems everyone keeps saying ICS is ultra fast and ultra smooth. In my experiences, ICS just wasnt made for the SGS1, the hardware just isnt powerful enough, heck even the Galaxy Nexus looked a tad slow on ICS compared to how fast it is on JB.
I dont think CM10 will be that much different from CM9. Im looking into getting an S3 when they drop the price a little bit, (£500!!!! I can get a decent laptop for that price)
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I honestly disagree. I do feel Slim ICS is as fast, as any other 2.3 rom i've tried, with the added bonus of slightly improved responsiveness. This is my personal experience, of course.
And i also think it's not about the hardware. If it was, the iphone wouldn't be such a success. But this is a loaded statement and not really worth going over. I'm just glad everyone has a favourite flavour they can use
Ya really think dat ugly'n'slow CM7 is better dan ICS?
There are trillions of possible combinations of apps and settings, did you do a clean install (wipe everything)?
A clean ICS beats a clean 2.3 ROM.
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I honestly disagree. I do feel Slim ICS is as fast, as any other 2.3 rom i've tried, with the added bonus of slightly improved responsiveness. This is my personal experience, of course.
And i also think it's not about the hardware. If it was, the iphone wouldn't be such a success. But this is a loaded statement and not really worth going over. I'm just glad everyone has a favourite flavour they can use
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Yeah its definitely useable. but maybe its just me, I feel like sometimes it will run flawless then sometimes it will feel laggy and slow, regarding iOS, its alot better coded than Android (im going to get hate for taht, but its true, you can run obsolete processors with iOS and still get it to work flawlesly since its so closely ccontrolled and optimised) Its the same with Windows Phone 7. If theres anyone who hasnt tried using Wp7, I encourage you to do so, my next phone will hopefully be the SGS3, but with every single Android phone regardless of specs, sometimes theres a delay with some things, i.e. the gallery. Its not so much lag anymore, just a delay between pressing the app icon and it actually loading. On windows phone, you press the app, BOOM, instantly its there.But JellyBean and "project Butter" is a step in the right direction. (And it looks alot cooler)
is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
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trexon said:
is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
Thanks!
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I used it and it's nice, especially the Music app .
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I used it and it's nice, especially the Music app .
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and you have moved to ics?
what caused thay you have moved from MIUI to other rom?
You will come back in 6 hours or less.
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trexon said:
and you have moved to ics?
what caused thay you have moved from MIUI to other rom?
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MIUI v4 is ICS . I moved to test JB.
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MIUI v4 is ICS . I moved to test JB.
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I got back to gingerbread although I liked the neat GUI of ICS and tested almost every variant of it except Slim ICS because it lacked support for Arabic based languages (my native language is Pashto). Another thing for me was the lack of feature of copying contacts to SIM which is crucial for me. Anyway I'm waiting if someone could include that feature, then certainly I will get back to ICS or JB.
ICS is good but the SGS just doesn't get the most of it, you can say what you want but if you think you're getting the full ICS experience on this phone you are sadly mistaken..
Honestly I don't blame the OP downgrading to GB, the sgs is what 2-3 years old now? If you want to run the latest software it might pay to start thinking about upgrading.
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ICS is good but the SGS just doesn't get the most of it, you can say what you want but if you think you're getting the full ICS experience on this phone you are sadly mistaken..
Honestly I don't blame the OP downgrading to GB, the sgs is what 2-3 years old now? If you want to run the latest software it might pay to start thinking about upgrading.
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For me,
Slim ICS>Froyo 2.2.1 (especially stock ZSJPK)>Any Gingerbread rom
Why? The answer is ram. The notion of free ram being wasted ram is just silly. When ram is full, the phone has to constantly close and reopen background processes, causing a decrease in smoothness.
That's why Froyo 2.2.1 was the best, because it had the most least ram consumption. However, slim ICS had that ridiculously big ram configuration, which put it on par with 2.2.1. But it ranks higher because it is ICS and has more features.
Hmm i downgraded to froyo a while ago and found it heaps laggier than ICS , JB is much better than ICS imo now.
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What a strange thread. I've been on a load of different ICS Roms, I've tried almost all of them and I've found 90% of them faster than stock Gingerbread/Froyo.
Right now I've been on CM10 Alpha (JB) for two days and my SGS feels like a new phone again. It's not perfect and 100% reliable, but it's pretty good for an alpha build.
im sorry. what is gingerbread/froyo? never heard of that.
it depends on personal preference to be honest.
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is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
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I used tot Love MIUI but thats only because Android didnt look that good before ics.
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disclaimernotice said:
For me,
Slim ICS>Froyo 2.2.1 (especially stock ZSJPK)>Any Gingerbread rom
Why? The answer is ram. The notion of free ram being wasted ram is just silly. When ram is full, the phone has to constantly close and reopen background processes, causing a decrease in smoothness.
That's why Froyo 2.2.1 was the best, because it had the most least ram consumption. However, slim ICS had that ridiculously big ram configuration, which put it on par with 2.2.1. But it ranks higher because it is ICS and has more features.
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Im not a developer, but the ram being full is not always bad. It just depends on how the Os uses it. I agree if you are constantly clearing and caching the ram as u open apps, you will lose smoothness but, for instance, my version of nix pre caches the majority of ram in advance for various applications to use. In essence insuring there is enough ram available for gui apps. Obviously if you are overall limited on ram though it will slow things down.
I have never felt like the ics ports were sluggish, just bit battery heavy, and they seem to run hot. That being said GB is the best compromise for me. Plus there is so much more hacking done for GB.
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