I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.
crazykas said:
I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.
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it's impossible for something to be perfect and without having a single issue. but the rom with the least issues in my opinion would be Virtuous Unity, a great rom developed by the hardworking Virtuous team. that rom is the closest you can get to perfect. try it.
website: http://www.virtuousrom.com/
thread is in the mytouch 4g development section.
crazykas said:
I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.
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What is it that you are wanting out of a rom? Different people like different things, and while some like vu (myself included), others want a more vanilla Android experience. Which would point closer to cm.
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Depends on your preference. I like sense and the one nearest to perfect for me is Virtuous Unity. Like saranhai said nothing is perfect nothing will be. The stock rom that comes with mytouch is not perfect at all. Some roms have a tad little bit of lag some just a little bit more. Something about every rom is different. Like eqjunkie829 said. You could want sense like me, him and alotof other people. Or you can go with a more aosp/vanilla rom.
How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?
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How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?
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no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.
saranhai said:
no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.
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agree, mysense its garbage.
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saranhai said:
no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.
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No offense or anything but im trying to help the guy rathar than say. "depends" "its all about preference" or "use the search button"
By you saying it sucks is too general. What does "suck" mean?
His answers will allow us to pinpoint him in the right direction. Other wise I might as well copy and paste all the links i saved.
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No offense or anything but im trying to help the guy rathar than say. "depends" "its all about preference" or "use the search button"
By you saying it sucks is too general. What does "suck" mean?
His answers will allow us to pinpoint him in the right direction. Other wise I might as well copy and paste all the links i saved.
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well, suck as in crappy UI, terrible lag, battery draining etc.
yes, i know you're trying to help him, i'm just saying, that the stock UI is really bad.
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How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?
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I bought this 3 months ago.I like a battery saving Rom.I know there are faster Roms,but current speed (official GB update)doesn't feel bad for me.Also, there is a problem of camera quality of this GB update.
Easy. CM7.
Nothing is more stable and more battery efficient than CM7.
Can't go wrong.
Hmmmm, without a single issue?
I don't think such an animal exists in our modern world...
From my experience, using the stock sense that came with the phone had by far far far more issues than cm6, 7 and 7.1- fc almost every phone conversation followed by signal loss, flaky wifi, lots of problems with the (nice) automatic profile switching etc.
So whatever you install, you're probably going to be "issuewise" much better than stock. Perhaps you'll have to sweat a little more to make it look as neat as sense, though.
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MIUI. I got tired of sense roms, that drains battery a lot and makes phone lag after some use.
MIUI is fast, stupid fast actually, and i'm @ 1 GHz CPU. Super customizable , good for battery save.
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mackster248 said:
Easy. CM7.
Nothing is more stable and more battery efficient than CM7.
+1
Can't go wrong.
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crazykas said:
I bought this 3 months ago.I like a battery saving Rom.I know there are faster Roms,but current speed (official GB update)doesn't feel bad for me.Also, there is a problem of camera quality of this GB update.
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Try Cyanogen mod (CM7). Like a few suggested!
All my cam apps work great on the stable version.
Battery life is probably the best of all the ROMs because of its simplicity.
This ROM is all about functionality
Although I use MIUI. Which also has great battery life (1day 6hrs) it has its quirks with some camera apps. I just wanted a sleeker user interface
I use a simple cam app anyways and I love the customization. My main goal for rom was battery life, & speed ( i was on 2.2 and it was very laggy out of the box) I just got my phone 2 months ago.
My last smart phone was an htc fuze lol and my previous phone was a simple nokia bar phone.
So I was totally oblivious to rooting prior to 2 months ago.
cyanogen
well I'm using cyanogen 7 stable version and I don't have any issue
running TDJ 2.2.0 just to switch things up a little bit
10+ hours and just now hitting 50%, so far so good
TDJ's port of that rom works wonders
Virtuous Unity for me, never one single issue, great performance, features, speed, battery life.
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Depends on your preference. I like sense and the one nearest to perfect for me is Virtuous Unity. Like saranhai said nothing is perfect nothing will be. The stock rom that comes with mytouch is not perfect at all. Some roms have a tad little bit of lag some just a little bit more. Something about every rom is different. Like eqjunkie829 said. You could want sense like me, him and alotof other people. Or you can go with a more aosp/vanilla rom.
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Virtuous unity was ok, not perfect by any means. It was a heavy rom, some times leggy and had some random FC's I never got in other roms. For a more stock sense/espresso hybrid (with out the stupid blocky apps), royal glacier has to be the most stable rom I have tried. I am currently running Faux's nexus rom and I love it so far, no issues. So if your into AOSP stuff, I would look into that.
Faux nexus 1.3.1
So I have been using faux's nexus 1.3.1 ROM for about a week now, I calibrated the battery right after I flashed it using the battery calibration app, and the battery life is amazing. It lasted 1 day 5 hours according to my battery stats right after I calibrated. Also it has been one of the most stable ROMs I have used besides royalglacier. No FC's or random reboots. One thing I have learned, which may be a total noob thing but whatever, is if you are going from sense to AOSP, you cannot restore any data after you flash your rom. You have to use titanium backup or the mybackup pro app to get your apps, SMS, call logs and the likes back. It might be common sense but i never knew that and it kept me away from aosp roms for a long time!
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Long time XDA reader, first time poster...
I like speed and I am not a huge fan of eye candy...Who can recomend a rom that fits the bill? I did check out the Wiki but it seems to be out of date after checking rom threads.
EViO 1.3.1 seems to be the one so far.
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Long time XDA reader, first time poster...
I like speed and I am not a huge fan of eye candy...Who can recomend a rom that fits the bill? I did check out the Wiki but it seems to be out of date after checking rom threads.
EViO 1.3.1 seems to be the one so far.
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For simplicity and speed ... hard to beat pure aosp ... Cyanogen Mod 6.
Then flash the snap kernel and you'll have the fastest rom.
I've been using cm6 for about a week and it's a great rom. I would be happier with better battery life, but oh well. It still lasts me all day and then some.
It's a real snappy rom too. I haven't noticed any lag at all since I've installed it. I'm also using one of King's kernels as well.
I've tested some others over the course of the week, and right away I noticed sluggishness in those other roms. I always end up flashing back to CM6 within an hour.
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For simplicity and speed ... hard to beat pure aosp ... Cyanogen Mod 6.
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CM6 for the win
CM6 with some tweaks (see below) screams and gets pretty good battery life to boot with the right kernel. Also make sure that you have no corrupt/unsupported media files on your card as this causes "Media Server" service to constantly attempt to index/access the offending file.
My tweaks so far:
Market only (all other "gapps" not installed)
Standalone calander app that doesn't sync to anything (using AnCal at the moment)
Lightweight launcher (using Zeam at the moment)
2D gallery (3D gallery removed)
No widgets
Plain/small single color wallpaper
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I've been using cm6 for about a week and it's a great rom. I would be happier with better battery life, but oh well. It still lasts me all day and then some.
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CM6 + Snap 7.6 & Turbo = "fastest" ROM, CM6 + Snap 7.5 = longest lasting ROM.
this new nightly and its kernel is doing some good work. that thing is fast as nuts and battery is good, better than king's CFS #1 kernel...because I dont have to use setcpu. And i've never noticed a difference, speedwise, with snap 7.6 and turbo. all seems the same to me
but if it does make a difference..then that superevo rom with snap 7.6 turbo should be insane. since apparently it scored like 2700+ with Quadrant...not saying quadrant means much, but a 2700+ definitely doesnt mean nothin
Only tried a handful of roms, but I've been very happy with Fresh 3.1, HTC's newest kernel; no task killer, setcpu, cpuanything, battery savers, ect. - Never gets slow on me and lasts 12+ hours, usually.
Myn's new ROM is extremely fast as well, plus it has 4G which means it is potentially 4X as fast as CM6 if you're in a 4G area like me and you use network intensive apps/browsing/downloading a lot. I'm running King's#9 with it as well. I switch between CM6 (for running Ubuntu/network bridging), and Myn's (when I want really fast eye-candy and I need that 300MB file NOW)
Just like everyone else is saying go with CM6 for a non-sense rom. If you want sense then try out Ava's new V9 rom. It's super smooth and has everything working like hdmi, 4g, etc.
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Myn's new ROM is extremely fast as well, plus it has 4G which means it is potentially 4X as fast as CM6 if you're in a 4G area like me and you use network intensive apps/browsing/downloading a lot. I'm running King's#9 with it as well. I switch between CM6 (for running Ubuntu/network bridging), and Myn's (when I want really fast eye-candy and I need that 300MB file NOW)
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I came from CM6 and absolutely love Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo. Super fast and smooth. I might switch back when CM6 gets 4G working (as SF now has 4G). 8.82down and .97 up btw.
Myn's warm, burnt droid from netarchy and fresh from flipz(3.3) have been good for me.
Myn has most eye candy, but still fast.
Fresh works great, as well, fast and stable.
Burnt droid was good as well, all of these run sense
So I'm guessing this is a noob question, but a couple of you mentioned using Snap 7.6 turbo with roms other than cm6...
Umm, how?
I can't seem to make it work (always says "install a snap kernel") with anything else and I can't seem to find directions on how to do so.
I'd like to try Warm twopointtwo with snapturbo - darned if I can make it work.
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I'd like to try Warm twopointtwo with snapturbo - darned if I can make it work.
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TwoPointTwo is Sense based so AOSP kernels (snap, king's AOSP) will not work.
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TwoPointTwo is Sense based so AOSP kernels (snap, king's AOSP) will not work.
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Ah, so it's as I suspected - noob question .
My first week with an Android phone (recovering iPhone junkie). So much to learn, so few hours in a day.
daemonopus said:
Myn's new ROM is extremely fast as well, plus it has 4G which means it is potentially 4X as fast as CM6 if you're in a 4G area like me and you use network intensive apps/browsing/downloading a lot. I'm running King's#9 with it as well. I switch between CM6 (for running Ubuntu/network bridging), and Myn's (when I want really fast eye-candy and I need that 300MB file NOW)
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I agree completely with you...
Myn for Speed and eye candy
CM6 for all out performance...
Chrisv006 said:
Long time XDA reader, first time poster...
I like speed and I am not a huge fan of eye candy...Who can recomend a rom that fits the bill? I did check out the Wiki but it seems to be out of date after checking rom threads.
EViO 1.3.1 seems to be the one so far.
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EViO 1.3.1 FTW.. with kings kernal and this ROM I get great performance and sense... and doesn't 4G not work with CM6???
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VaelPak
I have pockets of 4G coverage near me and I do connect on occasion so CM6 is out of the question for me.
I've been very happy with VaelPak 2.2 and the stock HTC 11 kernel. It has most of sense stripped out but some components are still there if you like. After playing with a few ROMs, I realized that I actually like the HTC dialer, contacts, and MMS apps. For most stuff you get the option of using AOSP or HTC/Sense components, and the developer is very active and very responsive, addressing any issues. Battery life is good, lasting a full day with moderate usage (up to 18 hours), and performance is great considering all the Launcher Pro eye candy.
It's not completely stripped down yielding the best speed, however I think it's a perfect balance between barebones AOSP and stock Sense (with sprint junk).
try superEVO rom its awesome
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I don't get why anyone wants to have a 3G only ROM on a 4G capable phone. Furthermore why the heck would anyone make a ROM for a 4G phone that doesn't connect to 4G before releasing. LOL
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I was wondering if someone could lay out a few of the benefits of flashing to Cyanogen versus stock (rooted). I have a lot on my phone and just wanted to see if it would be worth the time to switch and get everything setup again.
I looked around and didn't see any nice list of features/benefits that would be gained with Cyanogen.
I do love the fact that it is open source and community supported. That's fantastic.
Hope this isn't flamebait...
Stable (unless you're on a nightly)
Great codec support
Bluetooth profiles (HID being a top add)
It's the latest Android version in all its un-bloated glory
Update frequency is high
I'm sure I'm forgetting other things but its not limited to that.
I'm a Sense fan myself but CyanogenMod is worth the install. You owe it to yourself to check it out.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/19985-cm7-v-sense-what-you-lose-vs-what-you-gain/
I ran CM7 for about a month and now am running the stock rooted OTA Gingerbread. It may just be ADW launcher but CM 7 is slow and laggy compared to stock gingersense. I like others had major issues with getting GPS stable and working. I do miss some of the mods but over all i'm happier on a sense based rom.
For me battery life. Ive tried every sense rom there is and im yet to find one with better battery life. And for me its not anywhere near slow or laggy. I dont really see myself ever going back to a sense rom, definitely not the one Sprint just pushed out.
wasnt said:
I was wondering if someone could lay out a few of the benefits of flashing to Cyanogen versus stock (rooted). I have a lot on my phone and just wanted to see if it would be worth the time to switch and get everything setup again.
I looked around and didn't see any nice list of features/benefits that would be gained with Cyanogen.
I do love the fact that it is open source and community supported. That's fantastic.
Hope this isn't flamebait...
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Honestly, check it out for yourself. You don't need to lose anything, nandroid backup your current setup and install CM7. You can play around with it for a while and see if it's for you and if not you can just restore your backup. Many people on here have 2 or 3 roms backed up and switch between them. My suggestion would be to read all the links in my sig, they should answer any questions you might have.
i ran it so i could connect my wii remote and play snes9x...there is something sense cant do!!!
netflix, googletalk video chat. way better keyboard. i miss a couple things about sense so i just bought launcher pro and use that for my facebook and agenda widgets. other than that sense roms are garbage to me. CM7 is great and once all the stupid little bugs get worked out it's going to be awesome.
i'd suggest flashing the roms with armon 2.3 recovery and sticking to the stable versions of cm7. i just had to start from scratch cause a nightly a while back through my phone for a loop.
give the latest stable a shot for a week and i bet you really like it.
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netflix, googletalk video chat. way better keyboard. i miss a couple things about sense so i just bought launcher pro and use that for my facebook and agenda widgets. other than that sense roms are garbage to me. CM7 is great and once all the stupid little bugs get worked out it's going to be awesome.
i'd suggest flashing the roms with armon 2.3 recovery and sticking to the stable versions of cm7. i just had to start from scratch cause a nightly a while back through my phone for a loop.
give the latest stable a shot for a week and i bet you really like it.
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How do you fully enable gtalk video? I can see people but people can't see me.
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Aosp. That's why I like it.
* CyanogenMod (advanced) settings. You can tweak it to perform just how you like it.
* Screen on/off animations
* Color rendering (to reduce screen power use)
* Regular updates
* Gingerbread well before sense roms. Even running 2.3.4 like me
* Developments are quickly included (ex: sd card read ahead value to increase read speed)
Just do a backup of your current system, flash cyanogen, play around and if you don't like it, just restore back to your original.
I was on CM7 for the past month and @ first I was in love.
Benefits:
Advanced bluetooth support (Wimote for my emulators)
Full Screen mirroring HDMI (Once again for emulators)
Speed increase (This didn't last long)
On/Off screen animations (Impressed the friends and relatives)
Cool Wallpapers
But, after awhile the bugs really started to get annoying
Negatives (YMMV)
Bugs (From random FC's, gmail stop syncing for no reason, wimax not wanting to stop without a restart plus other annoying stuff.
Speed (Eventually CM7 started to move slowly to a point where it felt like a chore to deal with my phone)
Well, Friday was the last draw when my sister's texts were not showing up on my phone. So, I flashed the new Sprint GB update and I am in love with my phone all over again. Even with the bloatware my phone is running silky smooth and I am experiencing no bugs. Plus for some reason my battery life has improved too. I was using Tiamat with SBC on CM7. Battery life become horrendous on CM7 and yes I did calibrate my battery.
When it's all said and done YMMV. The best way to find out is to NANDROID Backup and flash the rom yourself. You might be greeted to a whole new world of flashing greatness.
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How do you fully enable gtalk video? I can see people but people can't see me.
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Lots of threads out there. I just followed the directions. I think now if you just flash the newest version of gapps and choose Google talk to install it'll install a properly working version. I'd read up on it tho.
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* CyanogenMod (advanced) settings. You can tweak it to perform just how you like it.
* Screen on/off animations
* Color rendering (to reduce screen power use)
* Regular updates
* Gingerbread well before sense roms. Even running 2.3.4 like me
* Developments are quickly included (ex: sd card read ahead value to increase read speed)
Just do a backup of your current system, flash cyanogen, play around and if you don't like it, just restore back to your original.
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I had cm7 and it got worse as time went on so I switched to decks 1.2v(based off cm7) much better and using latest tiamat sbc kernel...battery life is outstanding! And that's w out viperbiy scripts!
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cdszoke said:
gmail stop syncing for no reason
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I've had this happen anytime I loaded something new, I've found that it can be fixed by clearing the Gmail cached and data and making it completely reload.
cdszoke said:
I was on CM7 for the past month and @ first I was in love.
Benefits:
Advanced bluetooth support (Wimote for my emulators)
Full Screen mirroring HDMI (Once again for emulators)
Speed increase (This didn't last long)
On/Off screen animations (Impressed the friends and relatives)
Cool Wallpapers
But, after awhile the bugs really started to get annoying
Negatives (YMMV)
Bugs (From random FC's, gmail stop syncing for no reason, wimax not wanting to stop without a restart plus other annoying stuff.
Speed (Eventually CM7 started to move slowly to a point where it felt like a chore to deal with my phone)
Well, Friday was the last draw when my sister's texts were not showing up on my phone. So, I flashed the new Sprint GB update and I am in love with my phone all over again. Even with the bloatware my phone is running silky smooth and I am experiencing no bugs. Plus for some reason my battery life has improved too. I was using Tiamat with SBC on CM7. Battery life become horrendous on CM7 and yes I did calibrate my battery.
When it's all said and done YMMV. The best way to find out is to NANDROID Backup and flash the rom yourself. You might be greeted to a whole new world of flashing greatness.
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Rom manager fix permissions every once in awhile fixes things
Battery Life Is AWESOME and stable
Try decks its a fast and smooth version of cm7 w tiamat 4.0.5. & viperboy scripts great battery life and apply darkhorse theme aka" tha jump off!"
Midget tossing is a habit...2010 Midwest champion...hw 001
Nice that someone actually weighs the pro's and cons as op obviously needed. There is a lot of hating going on here at XDA, All devs should support each other, not bash each other. I know I Haven't been a member on here long, but flashing roms has been a hobby for a while, I just wasn't a full blown flashaholic. Anyway, there are a lot of roms to choose from and though I develop my own, I still flash everyone elses to enjoy the experience, and learn. Everyone has the right to believe what they will, but there is a line between a thought, and posting. If some of these people where two feet away from each other, there wouldn't be all of this garbage talk. I thought XDA was all about exactly that, giving the people a choice as to what software to run, helpful guides and tips, a community, or actually a culture, if you will. Anyway, sorry.....Flash Away....
I just want to share my opinion based on some reading.
Till now Samsung was not able to release bug free ICS ROM, despite the 6 months of working.
Also, I am noticing several complaints in both forums the nexus s and galaxy nexus.
ICS has proved to be slow compared to gingerbread, also it seems to be more battery consuming.
For now I am sticking to GB, maybe we should wait till Google releases the 4.0.4 update, even though I am not so positive.
Google its your job now.
So what do you think??
Dude!! HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER ROCKS?
4.0.4 has already been released and ics Is contrary to all the points you brought out
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Samsung's ICS is bug free, but it is slower than GB and consumes more battery (as you said)... That is why I am using GB...
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Dude under which rocks have you been living?
4.0.4 has already been released and ics Is contrary to all the points you brought out
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4.0.4 was released only for nexus s and galaxy nexus, still there are plenty of bugs to be cured. BTW, have you read about connection problems in galaxy nexus due to the 4.0.4 update.
no, ICS is not a failure.
try it yourself and you'll get what i mean.
You are judging and making conclusions based on the complaints by the minorities, and that just doesn't make sense to me...
Look at the majority who are willing to try out the awesomeness of ICS custom roms, look at the number of views of ICS rom threads in this forum, look at the positive, encouraging comments people write to the devs. All these combined should carry some gravitas, right?
Oh yeah, btw, 4.0.4 is already out, take a look at cyanogen 9. It's just that Samsung is not currently implementing this update into the stock roms.
Unfortunately Samsung implementation of ics is an epic failure. Slow and horrible. But that's Samsung and its pretty early days (3months!?)
Plenty of custom ics roms (cm9 specifically) that prove what ics can do when freed from touchwiz Samsung tweaked rubbish.
4.04 been out a while. Try a custom rom you won't go back
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no, ICS is not a failure.
try it yourself and you'll get what i mean.
You are judging and making conclusions based on the complaints by the minorities, and that just doesn't make sense to me...
Look at the majority who are willing to try out the awesomeness of ICS custom roms, look at the number of views of ICS rom threads in this forum, look at the positive, encouraging comments people write to the devs. All these combined should carry some gravitas, right?
Oh yeah, btw, 4.0.4 is already out, take a look at cyanogen 9. It's just that Samsung is not currently implementing this update into the stock roms.
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Don't forget that we payed $700 for Samsung, Samsung is the one responsible for giving us updates. Also, xda devs are only willing to improve and make our experience richer.
pahardie said:
Unfortunately Samsung implementation of ics is an epic failure. Slow and horrible. But that's Samsung and its pretty early days (3months!?)
Plenty of custom ics roms (cm9 specifically) that prove what ics can do when freed from touchwiz Samsung tweaked rubbish.
4.04 been out a while. Try a custom rom you won't go back
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CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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Samsung's ICS is bug free, but it is slower than GB and consumes more battery (as you said)... That is why I am using GB...
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Hm! Don't know what is going on with your device but here it's nowhere near slow, and battery? Well it consumes same amount as in GB, no way more.
This ICS and impleneted HW acceleration and other stuffs kept me to stick with Android for little while longer actually, just when i was thinking about switching back to iOS it came and successfully purchased me, for some time the least.
And Samsung had put/implemented ICS exactly the way they wanted to be. Some few peoples opinion and nagging won't care them the bit, nor they should be bothered about it.
Besides, what's the point of this thread
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CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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Not getting terrible battery life here. Its same as stock really. Try siyah see if that helps you out or do a full wipe etc etc
To the op
Samsungs ics roms are late and hide most benefits of ics which is why I dislike them
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And screen-on time is...?
P.S. I didn't say that CM9 (or any other ICS) has terrible battery life, I just said that it is not as good as GB... And I always do a full wipe when flashing ROMs
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And screen-on time is...?
P.S. I didn't say that CM9 (or any other ICS) has terrible battery life, I just said that it is not as good as GB... And I always do a full wipe when flashing ROMs
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I love ICS, run now on LUX LP4 and loving it.
Always do a full wipe and you have no problems
ICS is absolutely no failure in my opinion
I have installed CM9 + siyah 3.0
I have very good battery life (yeah sligtly less then gb, but i think the cause is that everithing is beta) but i have increased 10 times the responsiveness of my phone.. Everithing is better with ics..
ICS definitely no failure
I don't share the views on speed or battery life - in my view there is little tangible difference on my SGS2 - if anything I would say speed is a little better. Battery life depends on so many variables that it's almost impossible to be objective.
In terms of the update itself, it is definitely an improvement but still also a slight disappointment. In evolutionary terms we have crawled out of the primordial soup and lost the fins but we are still grooming each other looking for scurf and wondering where the smell comes from when we poke our fingers up our bottoms. The quest for fire remains a distant dream...
I can't vote in the poll therefore because there needs to be a middle option.
ICS is not a failure, actually it is a good path for android to travel. What let us down is the distribution method chosen by the oem and even by google itself. The purpose of bringing ics is not even satisfied by all the smartphones which got ics updates.
ICS is good.
Implementation of samsung/sony/htc is not good.
My $0.02, based on testing, and total indifference to "oo-Samsung-sux-lolz-I-demand-newest-FW-yesterday-Samsung-owes-me-I-paid-so-much-CM9-rox".
Failure? No. But not cool, awesome, rocking nor deserving of some of the fanboy praise posted here, in my opinion.
I've tried many, many stock and custom ICS, AOKP and CM9, every kernel and every combination (36 flashes since 30th March, to be precise). Not a single combination has been smoother or qucker than my daily driver or my next two preferences - krinyo's SlimROM, rohit's GB MIUI and Insanity build 57.
Battery life isn't a dealbreaker for me, lag is. I don't have bloatware, don't use mail, am not on Twitter or Facebook, haven't had TW launcher on my phone for 9 months. Even stripped down like this, my GB-based ROMs outperform everything else. And they're a hell of a lot more stable too.
As always, each to their own. But I haven't found any reason to leave GB after all this testing. Certainly no problem in refuting the "once you've tried 4.0.4 you'll never go back" spiel, which is lazy generalization based on nothing.
Unlike many, I wasn't wetting myself in anticipation of ICS, hence haven't needed to change my pants.
And the "poll" is ridiculous, pointless and useless, and not even a poll - there is middle ground.
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WooW, that is not bad at all mate, for me i've never get over 3 hours screen on time before
i might test cm9 out
can i also ask what kernel are u using?
Wondering if anybody feels that this flashing roms thing got annoying and at some point you realize al you do is flash romsinstead of using your phone for serious matters? Do not flame, I like flashing roms too, I was just feeling may be at some point it is no fun anymore? i'd like to see what you guys think. Share your thoughts
Really phone after phone I only do is flash Rom restore data, settings etc.mostly the phone remains unexplored.I think my phones run a Rom maximum for 3 days and minimum for few hours.it's really useless once you get a good get a good Rom,but one keeps on flashing I don't know what we achieve.but may be we do to kill time.
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I, for a period of time, was flashing approx 1-2 roms per day on my HTC Sensation. Before I went to work I would have a look what for something new and if it wasn't doing it for me, (or if I was bored) would flash another when I got home. Since getting the S3 though have only flashed 4 different roms, mainly due to the fact that I am happy with Omega. Damn you Omega Team for stopping my flashing addiction!
On the bus, on the sofa, on the toilet... Its always fun if you're doing it for the right reasons.
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On the bus, on the sofa, on the toilet... Its always fun if you're doing it for the right reasons.
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Lol
What I mean is if you're frantically flashing roms trying to find one that fixes xxx issue, then its annoying. If you are being adventurous for more functionality or for a just for a change, its always fun.
As long as you freeze/uninstall the useless crap, stock ROMs run great since the SGS2. So, I haven't bothered with custom ROMs since SGS1. Most of the flashing nowadays is trying out the various kernels and messing with my init.d file.
You're right though, I've actually spent more time using the phone than constantly messing with the settings... not necessarily a bad thing.
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What I mean is if you're frantically flashing roms trying to find one that fixes xxx issue, then its annoying. If you are being adventurous for more functionality or for a just for a change, its always fun.
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With the gs3, I think the stock rom is just perfect. Devs are good but there always is some issue which makes them post an update every week. I am new though, maybe I am not the right person to talk about this
This is exactly why a little over a year ago I went from the original Galaxy S to iPhone 4. I was trying everything out, it became almost like an addiction. Yeah, that sounds a bit stupid, but I really felt it was like addiction.
I spent hours every night flashing, restoring, flashing and again restoring. I hardly got the phone set up the way I liked it before I flashed again. It started to feel like I was just flashing ROMs all the time and not really using my phone for anything else. So I got really exhausted in the end and thought I'd try iOS - a platform notorious for its limitations when it comes to customizations.
I think the year I spent with my iPhone did me good. I realized that it's more valuable (for me) to set up the phone, tweak the things that need tweaking and then just USE it, with akin to a "If it ain't broken, don't fix it" attitude.
I often told friends and relatives when they asked for my opinion about the iPhone that it was the most reliable phone I have ever used. I could always rely on it to do the stuff I needed it to do when I needed it. Later on I started to reflect over this and came to the conclusion that the phone or the OS really isn't more reliable than Android at all. Android was unreliable for me because I was always messing with it. It was me, not the phone or the OS.
So now I have given my iPhone to the wifey and have my SGS III, and sure I have tried ROMs, I have tried 5 or 6 of them I think. Now I have found one that I really like, it looks nice, it does what I want it to do, battery seems fine, I really have no complaints. Now I just have to steer clear of the "grass is greener on the other side" mentality.
With that said, I today saw that nitr8 is bringing his Insanity ROM to the SGS III, and Insanity was one of my favorite ROMs on my SGS1, so yeah I'm tempted to try it, and I probably will do that at some point. But I don't feel like I have to, because the ROM I have now and the way I have set it up really works for me.
I'm just hoping the feeling will last this time... :silly:
Its just all about the little tweaks.
I did that with the OG touch diamond and the holy grail of Rom flashing, the HD2. Now that I'm alittle older and wiser since then, I scaled back a lot with the S3 and would only go as far as rooting the stock Rom, flash a kernel or radio, and editing build.prop.....for now, at least
I was a junkie with my HTC hero and hd2, I got only s2 because of how great many roms in would flash.. With s3 i have only flashed it once... And I'm happy.. All though I'm addicted to always check xda for updates everytime I get a chance..
The one rom i flashed was cm9 0701 experimental and it's been treating me great. Don't use all features of touchwiz and to be honest it feels more stable and smooth with a experimental build of cm9 then it ever did with touchwiz lol.
My addiction is over finally
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I was a rom junky at one point;guess I was a phone junky too from the g1 to mytouch slide to hd2 to g2 to g2x to sgs2...flashing and restoring constantly it seemed. Just trying to find that perfect rom/phone combination to make all my wildest dreams come true lol now I'm on a Hercules aosop rom wondering if the sgs3 is worth getting
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I do flash lots of ROMs, but I am quite glad with Samsung's stock ROMs (works for me, as long as I can keep root between flashes).
I flash a new ROM everytime a ROM with a higher CL # is released.
Addicted to flashing !!
from my htc incredible s, htc one x , acer a500 iconia tab and now my samsung galaxy s 3 i have always flashed my phones from first day of purchase.
the browsing through xda became a regular thing for me, looking for that rom that catches my attention, i always look for stable, fast and nice themed roms with tweaks, at some point i was flashing my phones 2 to 4 times a day lol
i dont know why but it was a sense of exploring, being able to rip a stock out and making it into something that is more for you.
my wife obviously dont understand so she gets the ****s when i purchase a brand new phone and straight away mod the **** out of it lol
the way i see it, purchasing a smartphone comes stock which is restricting and customizing it is limited !!
so flashing a custom rom is opening it up to change things to your preference.
i absolutely hate iphones, they are dull and so restricted and basically all the same, you know one iphone u know em all.
Android rocks and iphones can burn like they do !!!
adamhill212 said:
I, for a period of time, was flashing approx 1-2 roms per day on my HTC Sensation. Before I went to work I would have a look what for something new and if it wasn't doing it for me, (or if I was bored) would flash another when I got home. Since getting the S3 though have only flashed 4 different roms, mainly due to the fact that I am happy with Omega. Damn you Omega Team for stopping my flashing addiction!
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Yeah I'm the same, I flashed Omega when i 1st got my phone because it was the only custom rom and loved it. I have flashed a few roms but always went back to Omega.
The only thing I flash religiously is siyah kernel updates.
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Yeah I'm the same, I flashed Omega when i 1st got my phone because it was the only custom rom and loved it. I have flashed a few roms but always went back to Omega.
The only thing I flash religiously is siyah kernel updates.
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Btw what is so special about omega? It seems to me all stock...
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Its just all about the little tweaks.
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I think it's addictive and becomes a main use should be used as a smart phone
Go into the US galaxy s III forums and tell them you're tired of flashing roms..see the reaction you get. LMAO I'm sure any one of them would kill to have as many choices as we have
Thats why my SIII and most of Android is more like a toy rather than a tool for me... i always tinker my phone when i have nothing to do and always have iPhone as backup when im not doing it right.
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Ive recently downgraded back to CM7 GB. ICS just has too many bugs and it seems im the only one who seems to think its "slow" or jerky at times. I encourage you if you just want your phone to work and be as fast as it can be to go back to CM7. It seems everyone keeps saying ICS is ultra fast and ultra smooth. In my experiences, ICS just wasnt made for the SGS1, the hardware just isnt powerful enough, heck even the Galaxy Nexus looked a tad slow on ICS compared to how fast it is on JB.
I dont think CM10 will be that much different from CM9. Im looking into getting an S3 when they drop the price a little bit, (£500!!!! I can get a decent laptop for that price)
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I honestly disagree. I do feel Slim ICS is as fast, as any other 2.3 rom i've tried, with the added bonus of slightly improved responsiveness. This is my personal experience, of course.
And i also think it's not about the hardware. If it was, the iphone wouldn't be such a success. But this is a loaded statement and not really worth going over. I'm just glad everyone has a favourite flavour they can use
Ya really think dat ugly'n'slow CM7 is better dan ICS?
There are trillions of possible combinations of apps and settings, did you do a clean install (wipe everything)?
A clean ICS beats a clean 2.3 ROM.
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I honestly disagree. I do feel Slim ICS is as fast, as any other 2.3 rom i've tried, with the added bonus of slightly improved responsiveness. This is my personal experience, of course.
And i also think it's not about the hardware. If it was, the iphone wouldn't be such a success. But this is a loaded statement and not really worth going over. I'm just glad everyone has a favourite flavour they can use
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Yeah its definitely useable. but maybe its just me, I feel like sometimes it will run flawless then sometimes it will feel laggy and slow, regarding iOS, its alot better coded than Android (im going to get hate for taht, but its true, you can run obsolete processors with iOS and still get it to work flawlesly since its so closely ccontrolled and optimised) Its the same with Windows Phone 7. If theres anyone who hasnt tried using Wp7, I encourage you to do so, my next phone will hopefully be the SGS3, but with every single Android phone regardless of specs, sometimes theres a delay with some things, i.e. the gallery. Its not so much lag anymore, just a delay between pressing the app icon and it actually loading. On windows phone, you press the app, BOOM, instantly its there.But JellyBean and "project Butter" is a step in the right direction. (And it looks alot cooler)
is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
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is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
Thanks!
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I used it and it's nice, especially the Music app .
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I used it and it's nice, especially the Music app .
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and you have moved to ics?
what caused thay you have moved from MIUI to other rom?
You will come back in 6 hours or less.
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trexon said:
and you have moved to ics?
what caused thay you have moved from MIUI to other rom?
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MIUI v4 is ICS . I moved to test JB.
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MIUI v4 is ICS . I moved to test JB.
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I got back to gingerbread although I liked the neat GUI of ICS and tested almost every variant of it except Slim ICS because it lacked support for Arabic based languages (my native language is Pashto). Another thing for me was the lack of feature of copying contacts to SIM which is crucial for me. Anyway I'm waiting if someone could include that feature, then certainly I will get back to ICS or JB.
ICS is good but the SGS just doesn't get the most of it, you can say what you want but if you think you're getting the full ICS experience on this phone you are sadly mistaken..
Honestly I don't blame the OP downgrading to GB, the sgs is what 2-3 years old now? If you want to run the latest software it might pay to start thinking about upgrading.
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ICS is good but the SGS just doesn't get the most of it, you can say what you want but if you think you're getting the full ICS experience on this phone you are sadly mistaken..
Honestly I don't blame the OP downgrading to GB, the sgs is what 2-3 years old now? If you want to run the latest software it might pay to start thinking about upgrading.
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For me,
Slim ICS>Froyo 2.2.1 (especially stock ZSJPK)>Any Gingerbread rom
Why? The answer is ram. The notion of free ram being wasted ram is just silly. When ram is full, the phone has to constantly close and reopen background processes, causing a decrease in smoothness.
That's why Froyo 2.2.1 was the best, because it had the most least ram consumption. However, slim ICS had that ridiculously big ram configuration, which put it on par with 2.2.1. But it ranks higher because it is ICS and has more features.
Hmm i downgraded to froyo a while ago and found it heaps laggier than ICS , JB is much better than ICS imo now.
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What a strange thread. I've been on a load of different ICS Roms, I've tried almost all of them and I've found 90% of them faster than stock Gingerbread/Froyo.
Right now I've been on CM10 Alpha (JB) for two days and my SGS feels like a new phone again. It's not perfect and 100% reliable, but it's pretty good for an alpha build.
im sorry. what is gingerbread/froyo? never heard of that.
it depends on personal preference to be honest.
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is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
Thanks!
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I used tot Love MIUI but thats only because Android didnt look that good before ics.
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For me,
Slim ICS>Froyo 2.2.1 (especially stock ZSJPK)>Any Gingerbread rom
Why? The answer is ram. The notion of free ram being wasted ram is just silly. When ram is full, the phone has to constantly close and reopen background processes, causing a decrease in smoothness.
That's why Froyo 2.2.1 was the best, because it had the most least ram consumption. However, slim ICS had that ridiculously big ram configuration, which put it on par with 2.2.1. But it ranks higher because it is ICS and has more features.
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Im not a developer, but the ram being full is not always bad. It just depends on how the Os uses it. I agree if you are constantly clearing and caching the ram as u open apps, you will lose smoothness but, for instance, my version of nix pre caches the majority of ram in advance for various applications to use. In essence insuring there is enough ram available for gui apps. Obviously if you are overall limited on ram though it will slow things down.
I have never felt like the ics ports were sluggish, just bit battery heavy, and they seem to run hot. That being said GB is the best compromise for me. Plus there is so much more hacking done for GB.
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