[POLL] Do you think ics is a failure?? - Galaxy S II General

I just want to share my opinion based on some reading.
Till now Samsung was not able to release bug free ICS ROM, despite the 6 months of working.
Also, I am noticing several complaints in both forums the nexus s and galaxy nexus.
ICS has proved to be slow compared to gingerbread, also it seems to be more battery consuming.
For now I am sticking to GB, maybe we should wait till Google releases the 4.0.4 update, even though I am not so positive.
Google its your job now.
So what do you think??

Dude!! HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER ROCKS?
4.0.4 has already been released and ics Is contrary to all the points you brought out
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Samsung's ICS is bug free, but it is slower than GB and consumes more battery (as you said)... That is why I am using GB...

Neo said:
Dude under which rocks have you been living?
4.0.4 has already been released and ics Is contrary to all the points you brought out
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4.0.4 was released only for nexus s and galaxy nexus, still there are plenty of bugs to be cured. BTW, have you read about connection problems in galaxy nexus due to the 4.0.4 update.

no, ICS is not a failure.
try it yourself and you'll get what i mean.
You are judging and making conclusions based on the complaints by the minorities, and that just doesn't make sense to me...
Look at the majority who are willing to try out the awesomeness of ICS custom roms, look at the number of views of ICS rom threads in this forum, look at the positive, encouraging comments people write to the devs. All these combined should carry some gravitas, right?
Oh yeah, btw, 4.0.4 is already out, take a look at cyanogen 9. It's just that Samsung is not currently implementing this update into the stock roms.

Unfortunately Samsung implementation of ics is an epic failure. Slow and horrible. But that's Samsung and its pretty early days (3months!?)
Plenty of custom ics roms (cm9 specifically) that prove what ics can do when freed from touchwiz Samsung tweaked rubbish.
4.04 been out a while. Try a custom rom you won't go back
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dingdin said:
no, ICS is not a failure.
try it yourself and you'll get what i mean.
You are judging and making conclusions based on the complaints by the minorities, and that just doesn't make sense to me...
Look at the majority who are willing to try out the awesomeness of ICS custom roms, look at the number of views of ICS rom threads in this forum, look at the positive, encouraging comments people write to the devs. All these combined should carry some gravitas, right?
Oh yeah, btw, 4.0.4 is already out, take a look at cyanogen 9. It's just that Samsung is not currently implementing this update into the stock roms.
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Don't forget that we payed $700 for Samsung, Samsung is the one responsible for giving us updates. Also, xda devs are only willing to improve and make our experience richer.

pahardie said:
Unfortunately Samsung implementation of ics is an epic failure. Slow and horrible. But that's Samsung and its pretty early days (3months!?)
Plenty of custom ics roms (cm9 specifically) that prove what ics can do when freed from touchwiz Samsung tweaked rubbish.
4.04 been out a while. Try a custom rom you won't go back
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CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...

Dark Emotion said:
CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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Dark Emotion said:
Samsung's ICS is bug free, but it is slower than GB and consumes more battery (as you said)... That is why I am using GB...
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Hm! Don't know what is going on with your device but here it's nowhere near slow, and battery? Well it consumes same amount as in GB, no way more.
This ICS and impleneted HW acceleration and other stuffs kept me to stick with Android for little while longer actually, just when i was thinking about switching back to iOS it came and successfully purchased me, for some time the least.
And Samsung had put/implemented ICS exactly the way they wanted to be. Some few peoples opinion and nagging won't care them the bit, nor they should be bothered about it.
Besides, what's the point of this thread

Dark Emotion said:
CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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Not getting terrible battery life here. Its same as stock really. Try siyah see if that helps you out or do a full wipe etc etc
To the op
Samsungs ics roms are late and hide most benefits of ics which is why I dislike them
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And screen-on time is...?
P.S. I didn't say that CM9 (or any other ICS) has terrible battery life, I just said that it is not as good as GB... And I always do a full wipe when flashing ROMs

Dark Emotion said:
And screen-on time is...?
P.S. I didn't say that CM9 (or any other ICS) has terrible battery life, I just said that it is not as good as GB... And I always do a full wipe when flashing ROMs
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I love ICS, run now on LUX LP4 and loving it.
Always do a full wipe and you have no problems
ICS is absolutely no failure in my opinion

I have installed CM9 + siyah 3.0
I have very good battery life (yeah sligtly less then gb, but i think the cause is that everithing is beta) but i have increased 10 times the responsiveness of my phone.. Everithing is better with ics..
ICS definitely no failure

I don't share the views on speed or battery life - in my view there is little tangible difference on my SGS2 - if anything I would say speed is a little better. Battery life depends on so many variables that it's almost impossible to be objective.
In terms of the update itself, it is definitely an improvement but still also a slight disappointment. In evolutionary terms we have crawled out of the primordial soup and lost the fins but we are still grooming each other looking for scurf and wondering where the smell comes from when we poke our fingers up our bottoms. The quest for fire remains a distant dream...
I can't vote in the poll therefore because there needs to be a middle option.

ICS is not a failure, actually it is a good path for android to travel. What let us down is the distribution method chosen by the oem and even by google itself. The purpose of bringing ics is not even satisfied by all the smartphones which got ics updates.

ICS is good.
Implementation of samsung/sony/htc is not good.

My $0.02, based on testing, and total indifference to "oo-Samsung-sux-lolz-I-demand-newest-FW-yesterday-Samsung-owes-me-I-paid-so-much-CM9-rox".
Failure? No. But not cool, awesome, rocking nor deserving of some of the fanboy praise posted here, in my opinion.
I've tried many, many stock and custom ICS, AOKP and CM9, every kernel and every combination (36 flashes since 30th March, to be precise). Not a single combination has been smoother or qucker than my daily driver or my next two preferences - krinyo's SlimROM, rohit's GB MIUI and Insanity build 57.
Battery life isn't a dealbreaker for me, lag is. I don't have bloatware, don't use mail, am not on Twitter or Facebook, haven't had TW launcher on my phone for 9 months. Even stripped down like this, my GB-based ROMs outperform everything else. And they're a hell of a lot more stable too.
As always, each to their own. But I haven't found any reason to leave GB after all this testing. Certainly no problem in refuting the "once you've tried 4.0.4 you'll never go back" spiel, which is lazy generalization based on nothing.
Unlike many, I wasn't wetting myself in anticipation of ICS, hence haven't needed to change my pants.
And the "poll" is ridiculous, pointless and useless, and not even a poll - there is middle ground.

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WooW, that is not bad at all mate, for me i've never get over 3 hours screen on time before
i might test cm9 out
can i also ask what kernel are u using?

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[Q] Best Rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE?

I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.
crazykas said:
I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.
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it's impossible for something to be perfect and without having a single issue. but the rom with the least issues in my opinion would be Virtuous Unity, a great rom developed by the hardworking Virtuous team. that rom is the closest you can get to perfect. try it.
website: http://www.virtuousrom.com/
thread is in the mytouch 4g development section.
crazykas said:
I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.
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What is it that you are wanting out of a rom? Different people like different things, and while some like vu (myself included), others want a more vanilla Android experience. Which would point closer to cm.
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Depends on your preference. I like sense and the one nearest to perfect for me is Virtuous Unity. Like saranhai said nothing is perfect nothing will be. The stock rom that comes with mytouch is not perfect at all. Some roms have a tad little bit of lag some just a little bit more. Something about every rom is different. Like eqjunkie829 said. You could want sense like me, him and alotof other people. Or you can go with a more aosp/vanilla rom.
How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?
jon_htc said:
How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?
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no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.
saranhai said:
no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.
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agree, mysense its garbage.
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saranhai said:
no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.
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No offense or anything but im trying to help the guy rathar than say. "depends" "its all about preference" or "use the search button"
By you saying it sucks is too general. What does "suck" mean?
His answers will allow us to pinpoint him in the right direction. Other wise I might as well copy and paste all the links i saved.
jon_htc said:
No offense or anything but im trying to help the guy rathar than say. "depends" "its all about preference" or "use the search button"
By you saying it sucks is too general. What does "suck" mean?
His answers will allow us to pinpoint him in the right direction. Other wise I might as well copy and paste all the links i saved.
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well, suck as in crappy UI, terrible lag, battery draining etc.
yes, i know you're trying to help him, i'm just saying, that the stock UI is really bad.
jon_htc said:
How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?
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I bought this 3 months ago.I like a battery saving Rom.I know there are faster Roms,but current speed (official GB update)doesn't feel bad for me.Also, there is a problem of camera quality of this GB update.
Easy. CM7.
Nothing is more stable and more battery efficient than CM7.
Can't go wrong.
Hmmmm, without a single issue?
I don't think such an animal exists in our modern world...
From my experience, using the stock sense that came with the phone had by far far far more issues than cm6, 7 and 7.1- fc almost every phone conversation followed by signal loss, flaky wifi, lots of problems with the (nice) automatic profile switching etc.
So whatever you install, you're probably going to be "issuewise" much better than stock. Perhaps you'll have to sweat a little more to make it look as neat as sense, though.
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MIUI. I got tired of sense roms, that drains battery a lot and makes phone lag after some use.
MIUI is fast, stupid fast actually, and i'm @ 1 GHz CPU. Super customizable , good for battery save.
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mackster248 said:
Easy. CM7.
Nothing is more stable and more battery efficient than CM7.
+1
Can't go wrong.
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crazykas said:
I bought this 3 months ago.I like a battery saving Rom.I know there are faster Roms,but current speed (official GB update)doesn't feel bad for me.Also, there is a problem of camera quality of this GB update.
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Try Cyanogen mod (CM7). Like a few suggested!
All my cam apps work great on the stable version.
Battery life is probably the best of all the ROMs because of its simplicity.
This ROM is all about functionality
Although I use MIUI. Which also has great battery life (1day 6hrs) it has its quirks with some camera apps. I just wanted a sleeker user interface
I use a simple cam app anyways and I love the customization. My main goal for rom was battery life, & speed ( i was on 2.2 and it was very laggy out of the box) I just got my phone 2 months ago.
My last smart phone was an htc fuze lol and my previous phone was a simple nokia bar phone.
So I was totally oblivious to rooting prior to 2 months ago.
cyanogen
well I'm using cyanogen 7 stable version and I don't have any issue
running TDJ 2.2.0 just to switch things up a little bit
10+ hours and just now hitting 50%, so far so good
TDJ's port of that rom works wonders
Virtuous Unity for me, never one single issue, great performance, features, speed, battery life.
tydgilyard said:
Depends on your preference. I like sense and the one nearest to perfect for me is Virtuous Unity. Like saranhai said nothing is perfect nothing will be. The stock rom that comes with mytouch is not perfect at all. Some roms have a tad little bit of lag some just a little bit more. Something about every rom is different. Like eqjunkie829 said. You could want sense like me, him and alotof other people. Or you can go with a more aosp/vanilla rom.
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Virtuous unity was ok, not perfect by any means. It was a heavy rom, some times leggy and had some random FC's I never got in other roms. For a more stock sense/espresso hybrid (with out the stupid blocky apps), royal glacier has to be the most stable rom I have tried. I am currently running Faux's nexus rom and I love it so far, no issues. So if your into AOSP stuff, I would look into that.
Faux nexus 1.3.1
So I have been using faux's nexus 1.3.1 ROM for about a week now, I calibrated the battery right after I flashed it using the battery calibration app, and the battery life is amazing. It lasted 1 day 5 hours according to my battery stats right after I calibrated. Also it has been one of the most stable ROMs I have used besides royalglacier. No FC's or random reboots. One thing I have learned, which may be a total noob thing but whatever, is if you are going from sense to AOSP, you cannot restore any data after you flash your rom. You have to use titanium backup or the mybackup pro app to get your apps, SMS, call logs and the likes back. It might be common sense but i never knew that and it kept me away from aosp roms for a long time!

To anyone who is waiting to switch to an ICS Rom

I'm talking to everyone who's been reading the ICS threads and progress that's being made to our ICS roms, but has not made the leap for whatever reason.
I'm speaking to you because I was you, at least until Friday when I finally decided to make the move to Neobuddy's Euphoria RC1 rom.
I quietly followed and read every single thread in the development section relating to our ICS progress, but was constantly reading about the problems with battery life and GPS difficulties.
I decided that after weeks of watching and waiting, I would take the plunge and report about my first 24 hours. I did not want to leave out details, so I took screen shots to show everyone who was like me before, standing on the sidelines, waiting for some magical "Ah ha" moment. Hopefully this will give you confidence in your decision and I can help you out along the way.
To start with, I have one of the first generations of our Vibrant (purchased the month it came out). I also purchased a Epic 4G battery from here about 4 months ago and have been using Bionix 1.3.2 and Deranged9 for as long as I can remember. When I flashed Euphoria, I had an initial problem with the installation where it got hung up at the boot screen (normal for coming from 2.2 roms) and it should also be mentioned that I DID NOT flash a GB Bootloader and had no problems with my recovery or rainbows.
The flash was pretty quick, even with having to reflash the rom twice. Once flashed, everything was pretty smooth from that point forward. I charged my phone up to 100% and calibrated it using the V6 supercharger script . After doing that, I woke up in the morning (I sleep in late on the weekend) and preceded to not only test my phone (GPS, different apps, change settings) but to use it normally (make calls, connect to my car's stereo Bluetooth connection to play music, etc.). The phone was the fastest it had ever been and everything worked as if I was still on my clutch Bionix rom.
The best part about my entire experience was that not only was everything working, but my battery life was out of this world good. I am not exaggerating by any means, and I've included screen shots to quantify my experience. I could not believe that not only did my GPS work after deep sleep (I tested it on multiple of occasions) but my battery was averaging about 2% loss an hour. The other icing on the cake was the fact that I was able to get the highest internet speeds using the stock modem (KB5 I believe).
I'm sorry for the literary diarrhea but I know that there are others like myself who are sitting on the sidelines, waiting for something to push them over the edge, and move onto an ICS based rom. The below is more specific information should you decide to follow what I did to a "T".
Rom: Neobuddy's Euphoria RC1 Rom
Modem: KB5
Kernel: ICS_Kissed_20120226.1157
Tweaks: Captivate GPS Fix
Battery: 1800mAH Samsung Epic 4G Battery
Battery Cycles: 1
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your photos aren't working
im in a very similar boat w/ a vibrant from aug-2010 & the 1800mah battery so i'd be interested to see your photos... im practically hanging off the fence ready to jump on the ICS boat but we'll see soon enough
Welcome my friend. Glad to see you. Been awhile since the D9 days. ICS is pretty slick isn't it? Hope all is well and if you have any Q's just let us know. I've got official ICS on my tablet and wish I could put Roman's control on it like on my phone.
i was also on the fence for a good while. i was thinking, 'man, settling for ics just because it's ics isn't for me!' i assumed it was pretty much not usable. i flashed passion first, then euphoria, now i'm on zenwich. all three are about as good as they're gonna get without an official ics, and that's not a diss at all. all three roms i tried are very stable and fast. there's been a few hiccups (laggy app drawer, random force closes), but that's to be expected. and by no means do those things happen often. they've happened maybe three times. as far as battery, i have the 1800mah battery, and my battery life is average. i get about 12hr with moderate to heavy use, and any use less than that i can easily make it through the whole day without worrying about charging. i am outside most of my day though, so i do have brightness almost all the way up. i don't expect miracles with battery life and neither should anyone else. i say for those on the fence about ics, just try it. it's fun and new and mostly everything works without a hitch.
jonen said:
your photos aren't working
im in a very similar boat w/ a vibrant from aug-2010 & the 1800mah battery so i'd be interested to see your photos... im practically hanging off the fence ready to jump on the ICS boat but we'll see soon enough
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Sorry about that, didn't have it on my public directory. All fixed. Enjoy the battery greatness!
Woodrube said:
Welcome my friend. Glad to see you. Been awhile since the D9 days. ICS is pretty slick isn't it? Hope all is well and if you have any Q's just let us know. I've got official ICS on my tablet and wish I could put Roman's control on it like on my phone.
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Hey man!! Long time no talk. Glad to see we're both rocking the same rom again. Deranged was great, but with this rom, it's on a whole new level. I can seriously get the same battery life but the speed is just outrageous. My only wish is that I could lock my home launcher (Apex Launcher) into memory. I have a decent amount of redraws but other than that, it's ridiculously fast.
I also have ICS on my tablet too (I have an HP Touchpad). I can put AOKTP on it, but I have been super happy with the work that dalingrin and CM9 have put out. I eventually will have to try it out, I just have been super happy with the progress they've made on it.
Out of curiosity, have you found any build prop tweaks that you've added to Euphoria? I want to change some things up, but not too sure what others have done.
Mat
I was on dr9 and I decided to switch to ICS 2 weeks ago. I swear I never want to come back again! First time ever I feel my phone is way superior than a freaking iPhone. Thanks to all devs, my once crappy phone becomes iPhone slayer.
P.s My GPS never works even on froyo 2.2 Would flashing that GPS fix solve my problem? I heard about hardware fix, what is it and where can I get it? Thanks
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I just bought my first (used) android phone last week and after much deliberation decided to try the Vibrant because of the many custom ROMs available for it and it's widespread forum support from developers. I've flashed Passion, Euphoria, and Slim ICS over the last week (mainly just to try out a few ROMs and get the process of flashing down). They each have their own strengths and I recommend reading the threads in detail prior to flashing the ROM as some of them do have some common kinks that can be worked out with simple solutions. Either way thanks to all the developers for their hard work bringing ICS to this older (but not ancient yet) platform!
I did the same thing up until recently, just followed the ics threads but haven't used them.
I just took the jump Thursday, I'm actually pretty amazed at how well it all works too! I haven't even calibrated my battery yet and I'm still getting about the same battery life that I was on toxic 8 and fishman mod. I've been playing with passion and slim ics both are amazing roms. For those who havent at least tried ics this is the perfect time to do so,most have about equal battery life and great speed to go with it and are very stable.
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Sorry about that, didn't have it on my public directory. All fixed. Enjoy the battery greatness!
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are you running stock speeds or have you overclocked to 1.2ghz??
and im a bit concerned about how your battery usage shows 19% screen...
any comments on using slim for a barebone ICS experience over euphoria/passion?
i wish there was some sort of description as to what exactly the slimming of ICS entailed
I miss ics so much. Im on a galaxy s ii right now yes it's super fast and everything but I love ics passion so much. The battery lasted forever on that Rom and this phone can barely do 8 hrs. Also it was just so nice to have ics. Call this an overstatement but im seriously considering about going back to the vibrant because the sgsii has no ics yet.
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seedofchaos said:
I miss ics so much. Im on a galaxy s ii right now yes it's super fast and everything but I love ics passion so much. The battery lasted forever on that Rom and this phone can barely do 8 hrs. Also it was just so nice to have ics. Call this an overstatement but im seriously considering about going back to the vibrant because the sgsii has no ics yet.
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Errm
Yes it does mate...
Hav u looked in the dev section? :L
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Can someone tell me the Pros and Cons of switching from Eclair or Froyo to ICS? I am debating on doing it but don't know if its worth the hassle besides better battery life.
jonen said:
are you running stock speeds or have you overclocked to 1.2ghz??
and im a bit concerned about how your battery usage shows 19% screen...
any comments on using slim for a barebone ICS experience over euphoria/passion?
i wish there was some sort of description as to what exactly the slimming of ICS entailed
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I would say half the day I had it was set to 1.2GHz and the rest of the day was at 1GHz. I can tell you that I used the heck out of the phone, and 19% of 25 + hours with screen on isn't too bad. Not to mention, I was talking on the phone for around 1.5-2 hours of that time as well.
If I really pushed it, I know I could easily get 12-14 hours with HEAVY usage. In all likelihood though, if you think about a normal work day or school day, you should have problem going an entire day with either of the ICS roms, especially with an 1800 mah battery.
I thought ICS was good untill I tried Kanged Kool Aid. This rom is just amazing. It works 110% and is really fast with no lag what so ever. Plus the battery life I'm gettin with the epic 4g 1800mAh battery is the best I ever had.
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I usually get about 10 hours on AOKP and did so on Euphoria too with moderate usage.
No calls, maybe 3 maximum a day that lasted no more than 2 minutes each.
Texting is heavy, about a 1000 texts a day.
Games that are NOT too graphic dependent, such as Edge EX, Speedx 3D and Lane Splitter
and on WIFI the entire day.
Any suggestions? I'm using 2G instead of 3G since i do not have a data plan.
Brightness is about 5-10%
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Yes it does mate...
Hav u looked in the dev section? :L
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I have and it's not really a stable ics.
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I DOOD IT!!
I am noob. I am ashamed. I am piggybacking:
I love my Vibrant. I got tired of feeling left behind on updates, so I became interested in rooting and flashing my phone. After scouring these forums for a week, I had a mental list of problems that might pop up during the process. Many other sites published pros and cons of rooting -- the former outweighing the latter. What really pushed my decision to do something, was the headline, "Galaxy S III with Ice Cream Sandwich due out around April." The warranty was up; I felt assured that I could always restore; why not try opening the phone's potential?! Using two computers and a printed list of instructions, I took the plunge. I followed the Noob Guide and a video from Eddie1west, I now have a fully-functioning, up-to-date Virbrant that I am in love with all over again.
The first issue was lack of drivers on the computer: fixed. My eyes rolled, but I pressed on. Second came the boot-loop issues when installing both CM7 and ICS Passion. I cringed, but kept at it -- removing the battery and reinstalling one time each did the trick. I can't report any major deficiencies, but I'm still playing with the phone. I anticipate problems to arise, but I can accept them knowing that I have a wealth of knowledge to rely on -- even from other noobs like me.
I sincerely appreciate the amazing amount of effort and passion these developers have. Now where's that elusive "thanks" button...
it's always nice to get some user-experience posts about going to a ROM like this... I haven't taken the ICS plunge, but it's on my list of things to do when time permits.
Maybe I'll get to it this week
Rahhstah said:
it's always nice to get some user-experience posts about going to a ROM like this... I haven't taken the ICS plunge, but it's on my list of things to do when time permits.
Maybe I'll get to it this week
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I'm telling you man, with all my sincerity, this rom's battery life, gps and everything is just as stable as any 2.2 rom. I am now on my 3rd full day and my battery is still averaging crazy idle power usage (I don't talk on my cell while at work) and my gps had the best locks I've ever gotten ( I just walked my dog while testing it) with this phone.
I feel like I held on for so long, being so scared of what would happen to my phone if I flashed it. I was so scared about the mute/unmute bug, but guess what....I've had countless calls and not one person has said anything about my voice quality.
My suggestion is to go for it, worst case scenario, you ODIN to 2.1 and then restore your original backup. No harm, no foul....and no GB bootloaders.

ICS Just doesnt cut it.

Ive recently downgraded back to CM7 GB. ICS just has too many bugs and it seems im the only one who seems to think its "slow" or jerky at times. I encourage you if you just want your phone to work and be as fast as it can be to go back to CM7. It seems everyone keeps saying ICS is ultra fast and ultra smooth. In my experiences, ICS just wasnt made for the SGS1, the hardware just isnt powerful enough, heck even the Galaxy Nexus looked a tad slow on ICS compared to how fast it is on JB.
I dont think CM10 will be that much different from CM9. Im looking into getting an S3 when they drop the price a little bit, (£500!!!! I can get a decent laptop for that price)
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I honestly disagree. I do feel Slim ICS is as fast, as any other 2.3 rom i've tried, with the added bonus of slightly improved responsiveness. This is my personal experience, of course.
And i also think it's not about the hardware. If it was, the iphone wouldn't be such a success. But this is a loaded statement and not really worth going over. I'm just glad everyone has a favourite flavour they can use
Ya really think dat ugly'n'slow CM7 is better dan ICS?
There are trillions of possible combinations of apps and settings, did you do a clean install (wipe everything)?
A clean ICS beats a clean 2.3 ROM.
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I honestly disagree. I do feel Slim ICS is as fast, as any other 2.3 rom i've tried, with the added bonus of slightly improved responsiveness. This is my personal experience, of course.
And i also think it's not about the hardware. If it was, the iphone wouldn't be such a success. But this is a loaded statement and not really worth going over. I'm just glad everyone has a favourite flavour they can use
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Yeah its definitely useable. but maybe its just me, I feel like sometimes it will run flawless then sometimes it will feel laggy and slow, regarding iOS, its alot better coded than Android (im going to get hate for taht, but its true, you can run obsolete processors with iOS and still get it to work flawlesly since its so closely ccontrolled and optimised) Its the same with Windows Phone 7. If theres anyone who hasnt tried using Wp7, I encourage you to do so, my next phone will hopefully be the SGS3, but with every single Android phone regardless of specs, sometimes theres a delay with some things, i.e. the gallery. Its not so much lag anymore, just a delay between pressing the app icon and it actually loading. On windows phone, you press the app, BOOM, instantly its there.But JellyBean and "project Butter" is a step in the right direction. (And it looks alot cooler)
is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
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is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
Thanks!
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I used it and it's nice, especially the Music app .
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I used it and it's nice, especially the Music app .
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and you have moved to ics?
what caused thay you have moved from MIUI to other rom?
You will come back in 6 hours or less.
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trexon said:
and you have moved to ics?
what caused thay you have moved from MIUI to other rom?
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MIUI v4 is ICS . I moved to test JB.
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MIUI v4 is ICS . I moved to test JB.
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I got back to gingerbread although I liked the neat GUI of ICS and tested almost every variant of it except Slim ICS because it lacked support for Arabic based languages (my native language is Pashto). Another thing for me was the lack of feature of copying contacts to SIM which is crucial for me. Anyway I'm waiting if someone could include that feature, then certainly I will get back to ICS or JB.
ICS is good but the SGS just doesn't get the most of it, you can say what you want but if you think you're getting the full ICS experience on this phone you are sadly mistaken..
Honestly I don't blame the OP downgrading to GB, the sgs is what 2-3 years old now? If you want to run the latest software it might pay to start thinking about upgrading.
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ICS is good but the SGS just doesn't get the most of it, you can say what you want but if you think you're getting the full ICS experience on this phone you are sadly mistaken..
Honestly I don't blame the OP downgrading to GB, the sgs is what 2-3 years old now? If you want to run the latest software it might pay to start thinking about upgrading.
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For me,
Slim ICS>Froyo 2.2.1 (especially stock ZSJPK)>Any Gingerbread rom
Why? The answer is ram. The notion of free ram being wasted ram is just silly. When ram is full, the phone has to constantly close and reopen background processes, causing a decrease in smoothness.
That's why Froyo 2.2.1 was the best, because it had the most least ram consumption. However, slim ICS had that ridiculously big ram configuration, which put it on par with 2.2.1. But it ranks higher because it is ICS and has more features.
Hmm i downgraded to froyo a while ago and found it heaps laggier than ICS , JB is much better than ICS imo now.
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What a strange thread. I've been on a load of different ICS Roms, I've tried almost all of them and I've found 90% of them faster than stock Gingerbread/Froyo.
Right now I've been on CM10 Alpha (JB) for two days and my SGS feels like a new phone again. It's not perfect and 100% reliable, but it's pretty good for an alpha build.
im sorry. what is gingerbread/froyo? never heard of that.
it depends on personal preference to be honest.
trexon said:
is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
Thanks!
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I used tot Love MIUI but thats only because Android didnt look that good before ics.
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For me,
Slim ICS>Froyo 2.2.1 (especially stock ZSJPK)>Any Gingerbread rom
Why? The answer is ram. The notion of free ram being wasted ram is just silly. When ram is full, the phone has to constantly close and reopen background processes, causing a decrease in smoothness.
That's why Froyo 2.2.1 was the best, because it had the most least ram consumption. However, slim ICS had that ridiculously big ram configuration, which put it on par with 2.2.1. But it ranks higher because it is ICS and has more features.
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Im not a developer, but the ram being full is not always bad. It just depends on how the Os uses it. I agree if you are constantly clearing and caching the ram as u open apps, you will lose smoothness but, for instance, my version of nix pre caches the majority of ram in advance for various applications to use. In essence insuring there is enough ram available for gui apps. Obviously if you are overall limited on ram though it will slow things down.
I have never felt like the ics ports were sluggish, just bit battery heavy, and they seem to run hot. That being said GB is the best compromise for me. Plus there is so much more hacking done for GB.
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Should I Upgrade My Galaxy Tab 7.7 To Ice Cream Sandwich?

Hi fellow gurus, I've had my Galaxy Tab for a few days, only just bought it!
As you all know it comes preinstalled with Honey Comb 3.2.
There is however the Ice Cream Sandwich update available for the device.
I am unsure whether to update or not for several reasons:
1 - I'm happy with the 3.2 Honey Comb. It's fast, smooth and battery life is excellent
2 - No bugs or problems faced with the OS.
3 - Honey Comb runs everything I want without any problems.
4- When using my preferred launcher, Go Launcher EX it makes the use of the Tab even better, faster and more customizable.
This is where the problem lies. Should I upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich, will it improve battery or worsen it?
Should ICS take more juice & drains battery faster than Honey Comb then I'm not at all interested to update.
Even though the current battery life is great I would rather it improve in the update.
So to those who have upgraded to & are using ISC, is the battery BETTER or WORSE than Honey Comb?
Reason I'm asking is because recently I upgraded my other Samsung Galaxy Note to ICS & the battery life is crap and far worse than it was on 2.3.4...
One last question. Apart from battery life, is it worth upgrading to ICS? What are the benefits or what makes it better? Any new features?
Looking forward to hearing your replies, thanks in advance.
If u know how to backup etc , take a dip =D could always go back to stock
Edit : haven't seen a fellow looking back ^^
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Josvaz said:
If u know how to backup etc , take a dip =D could always go back to stock
Edit : haven't seen a fellow looking back ^^
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It's that good? WISH I could say the same about ICS on my Galaxy Note...
The only reason I'd upgrade to ICS would be even better battery life.
Otherwise I'm perfectly happy with 3.2 Honey Comb.
I bricked my tab trying to reinstall cm9
but for the 2mins i had ICS it was amazing
MUCH better than HC.
JB would be nice, but ICS definitely makes this worth keeping over buying a nexus
kanej2006 said:
It's that good? WISH I could say the same about ICS on my Galaxy Note...
The only reason I'd upgrade to ICS would be even better battery life.
Otherwise I'm perfectly happy with 3.2 Honey Comb.
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Off course battery life with ICS is far better than HC, after installing stock ICS you should try SK006 rom , battery consumption is even better than stock.
I found the battery life with cm9 is very bad. So you should use one of the optimized stock rooms, I would suggest Quicksilver 0.9 - that's what I'm running right now. I got 13h with wifi off and airplane mode on.
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Short answer: NO.
Long answer: If you know what you're doing, yes. The tab becomes way more responsive, you get some nice touches and compatibility with ICS software. Of course there is a risk involved; but if you can handle it, by all means, do it. You won't regret.
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Short answer: NO.
Long answer: If you know what you're doing, yes. The tab becomes way more responsive, you get some nice touches and compatibility with ICS software. Of course there is a risk involved; but if you can handle it, by all means, do it. You won't regret.
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Not sure where that short answer comes from?
IMHO Short answer - yes
Long answer - read the multitude of posts here relating to ICS on the 7.7.
The tab always did exactly what i wanted it to do on HC and I never really got too het up under the collar about the ICS hype. There was what amounts to a degree of hysteria about ICS around here a while ago.... Anyway i upgraded first to CM9 and then to the official release. Whilst ICS has not transformed the tab into the gadget to end all gadgets, world peace didn't break out and the deity of your choice (or not) didn't make an appearance (all of which some of the posts on this forum seemed to promise) both versions of ICS are noticeably faster than HC. I stuck with the official version with Apex launcher (imo better than Go) as it is a bit more configurable. Though TW ICS actually doesn't seem that much (any?) slower than CM9 - perception probably.
So, yes upgrade. As someone said make a back up and try it you can always restore.
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Short answer: NO.
Long answer: If you know what you're doing, yes. The tab becomes way more responsive, you get some nice touches and compatibility with ICS software. Of course there is a risk involved; but if you can handle it, by all means, do it. You won't regret.
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Hmm, as I thought I'm getting different opinions on whether or not to upgrade. That said, I'm happy with the way Honey Comb looks & runs...
With regards to responsiveness I think it's fantastic & more responsive than my Galaxy Note.
Another user or two also complained about poor battery life when upgrading to ICS and upgraded to Honey Comb again!
When running a custom rom & tweaking the software you'll surely get better performance & battery life.
As it is I'm getting excellent battery life from HC, performance & looks are also great:
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I stand by Short answer == no. The short answer for "should I flash XXXXXXX" should ALWAYS be "no".
If you don't know what you're doing and don't want to learn, you don't read the long answer. In this case, you shouldn't be messing with your tablet, and wait for the official Kies upgrade. Specially knowing that our tab has the infamous brickbug emmc... Despite the fact that the risk is small, I surely don't want anyone upgrading based on my advice, bricking, and screaming that it's my fault!
Let the people who go by short answers keep their tablets safe, and the people who actually care enough to read about it take the (small) risk and get a better tablet. I did it as soon as I could, but I wouldn't recommend it to absolutely everybody.
Steve_max said:
I stand by Short answer == no. The short answer for "should I flash XXXXXXX" should ALWAYS be "no".
If you don't know what you're doing and don't want to learn, you don't read the long answer. In this case, you shouldn't be messing with your tablet, and wait for the official Kies upgrade. Specially knowing that our tab has the infamous brickbug emmc... Despite the fact that the risk is small, I surely don't want anyone upgrading based on my advice, bricking, and screaming that it's my fault!
Let the people who go by short answers keep their tablets safe, and the people who actually care enough to read about it take the (small) risk and get a better tablet. I did it as soon as I could, but I wouldn't recommend it to absolutely everybody.
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Hmmm, ok. I'll wait for the Kies upgrade...
I will rephrasse my answer as per above.
If your OP question was in the context of your particular comfort with flashing FW then that is a question only you can answer.
If the question was about whther or not ICS was "better" than and HC and as such should you upgrade (taking itno account the above) then my answer is yes. The general responsiveness and feel of the tab is very definitely improved over HC. Nor have I noticed any issues with it in use, battery or otherwise. I am talking about both forms of ICS available to me as a P6810 user.
I took your question to be about the second case and made the assumption you were asking from the point of view of someone who feels comfortable flashing - so to speak.
For me HC also ran well with some tweaks and a replacement launcher (Launcher Pro). I upgraded to the stock ICS (on my p6810), and it is a very nice upgrade, IMO.
Battery life is the same or better, compared to HC.
Overall smoothness and speed, is improved in ICS on event the stock launcher and my current (Nova).
Compatibility - eventually, newer apps will not work on HC, so upgrading helps future proof. For example, I use Chrome and it won't even load on HC due to incompatibility. It now works on my GTab 7.7 with ICS, so I can use Chrome on my GTab, GS2, and my Computers and bookmarks now sync across all devices.
Lastly, when I upgraded to ICS, I did not even lose any apps or data, so there was really no reason not to. Anyways, I'd recommend it as there was no downside for me.
I upgraded my 7.7 to ICS about a week or so ago - got tired of waiting for the official ICS release for my country. It was my first time flashing any rom outside of the manufacturer-approved way, but after a lot of reading to make sure I had the procedure down pat, I went through with it, and I'm glad I did. General system responsive is better than with HC, battery is no worse, if not slightly better, and I didn't even need to reinstall any apps or re-configure any settings.
Ok, sounds like upgrading to ICS is an improvement & will benefit me.
However, after doing a search to see if there were any updates there were none found. This was done over the phone via wi-fi.
As others have said I could easily flash my phone, download and install a custom rom myself but that means either backing up data or losing data.
I will patiently wait for the official update via wi-fi for the ICS update.
Thanks guys.
kanej2006 said:
Ok, sounds like upgrading to ICS is an improvement & will benefit me.
However, after doing a search to see if there were any updates there were none found. This was done over the phone via wi-fi.
As others have said I could easily flash my phone, download and install a custom rom myself but that means either backing up data or losing data.
I will patiently wait for the official update via wi-fi for the ICS update.
Thanks guys.
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ever since my first time flashing via Odin up to this point, i don't think your data would be affected. but i'm with you on this one, i'll wait for my country's ICS update. don't want to change my build number (i'm just OC like that) hehe. but everyday i am tempted to flash the Austrian ICS firmware, i'm managing to hold on hahaha
Tab 7.7 6810 ICS Update
I checked for an udated under the Auto update feature in Settings, nothing was there so I checked manually for the ICS update this morning. It said there was a Frimware update to ICS for my device. I completed the download to the tablet and when I initiated the install if failed. There was a message advising me to use Kies. SO I went to Kies on my laptop and downloaded ICS to my 6810 (WiFi Only). The download was successfuland the installation was too. i now have 4.0.4 ICS on my tablet.
So far the only thing that changed was a couple of widget on my home screen and some app icons.
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I checked for an udated under the Auto update feature in Settings, nothing was there so I checked manually for the ICS update this morning. It said there was a Frimware update to ICS for my device. I completed the download to the tablet and when I initiated the install if failed. There was a message advising me to use Kies. SO I went to Kies on my laptop and downloaded ICS to my 6810 (WiFi Only). The download was successfuland the installation was too. i now have 4.0.4 ICS on my tablet.
So far the only thing that changed was a couple of widget on my home screen and some app icons.
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Cool, will check for the ICS update later on this evening via Kies...

[MINI REVIEW] MiniCM9 for Xperia x8

I have created this thread in order to offer viewers my personal review on the MiniCM9 ROM on the nAa-ICS kernel for the Xperia x8. I have had experiences with many ROMS and have decided to review the one I am currently running on my device.​
Before I begin I have to mention that, although there maybe other reviews every one is opinionated or 'spiced' differently. I think it is valid that there will be more than one review of the same ROM.
If you have ANY suggestions, please leave them as a post below.
This review will be of the latest version of the ROM - 3.0.4 and the latest version of the kernel - 04.
The latest MiniCM9 ROM for the x8 was released on the 31st of March 2012 by nobodyAtall, bursting onto android forums all over the web. As the successor to the extremely popular MiniCM7, users were desperate to see if the newest installment would live up to the high expectations. After using the ROM for a month, I can safely say it has blown me away. I will cover specific areas in which I was amazed.
Visuals
The CyanogenMOD series aims to offer the most 'vanilla' experience of the android OS. Obviously, as a port, many resolutions would have to be tweaked in order to look more beautiful and smooth. Yet again the CyanogenMOD offers a wonderful set of vibrantly tweaked icons. nobodyAtall also includes signature artistic wallpapers with the release that will blow your mind, perfectly rendered for the screen. Overall visual quality is perfect. Stock ICS infused with that CM touch.
Kernel
The kernel, also developed by nAa is yet again wonderful. Once installed, it will offer you the greatest in performance. With an Antutu benchmark of around 1800 and a gaming fps of around 50. Of course the custom kernel will give you the option to overclock and undervolt. Overclocking to a scale of around 729mhz will definitely please your performance needs. In addition to this the kernel will give you a powerful kick for your charge giving you a massive one day of heavy use and 2-3 days of moderate use.One of the greatest pleasers however was the fact that Clockworkmodrecovery is built in. How convenient is that! As a whole, the kernel is top notch - which is to be expected from nAa. However you will have to unlock your bootloader to install a custom kernel. Something many less brave users were unhappy with. But seeing as nAa dropped support for stock, I guess users will just have to toughen up.
Advanced Options & Apps
On every release CyanogenMOD gives the x8 advanced options like overclock (mentioned above) which are not on the stock rom. CyanogenMOD 7 was jam packed with these 'advanced options' allowing you to tweak every aspect of things like performance on your device. Unfortunately, seeing as many users did not use these features, nAa decided to 'dumb it down' a bit in his cm9 release. Although this is not an issue for many users, some advanced users (especially me) felt quite a burn. nAa has also included custom apps like the music manager, Apollo, DSP manager and DEV tools. I do not think a small individual review of these apps will do them justice but in short, they're great.
Conclusion
The overall experience provided by MiniCM9 will surpass any expectations you had (probably). It is a lightweight ROM with many features that will make you enjoy your phone even more. I would definitely recommend the ROM itself as it expands immensely on the stock stuff Sony provided. (who even uses that anymore :laugh. I am not using the CM10 ROM because of little known issues and other things. But I can confirm that even in its BETA like state, it is 20x smoother than ICS ever was! The experience is expected to be just as satisfying as cm9.
Rating: 8.5 out of 10
I have spent quite some time typing this review, please do not troll. All suggestions on the other hand are more than welcome. Please hit 'thanks' if you appreciate my massive effort. Sorry if this is not something you wanted. Even though the guide is long, I call it mini because it does not cover everything.
To see my tips and tricks for this ROM. Please see HERE
Check out the roms:
MiniCM9
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MiniCM10
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Great Post again baddaman54. Always trust you to post useful things. I do not know why you are not a recognized contributer.
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Thankyou for your comment. RC is a prestigious title one must work towards. To gain this title you must post guides as well as help other users and make useful posts. It would be great to receive this but I must help more people and do more before even thinking about asking for a title like that. I do not want to 'jump the gun'.
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Thats what Im thinking a while ago that you must be aiming for something more like being RC. Thats great. If I see you qualified I will give you a hand and personally vouch for you to become one. Keep it up, but please do only make topics that do not exist or topics simplifying things, otherwise expect hard comments from others
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And maybe a score on a scale from 1 to 10?
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DONE! :laugh:
IAmNice said:
Hmmm... isnt 9.5 a bit too high? GB is much faster and better when gaming,opening apps(even phone app takes so long), going back to launcher, free ram(multitask) and a lot of people find jb a bit faster then ics too. Ics also lags a bit and sometimes random reboot and multitasking is not so good compared to gb roms. I would give it 7.5 and 8 max. But thats just what I think
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Yes, I might try JB now seeing as the only known issue is video recording in the stock app. I hear what you say and lowered the rating a bit. If it is too high then what will happen when I review other roms. Also, I am creating a tips thread.
Hi! Good work with this thread! But I think you should combine this review with the tips & tricks together... it would save some space.. its just an idea...
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lucastan96 said:
Hi! Good work with this thread! But I think you should combine this review with the tips & tricks together... it would save some space.. its just an idea...
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I kept them separate because some people may not want to read the review. Just the tips. This was my thought at the start but now I wish to keep them separate. It is easier for me to manage. Thankyou for your suggestion tho'
the mini-man strickes again!
No offense but your account is suspiscious. You always get thanks and favourable remarks from Greatestandroid, Droidexists, gidefide and a few others, accounts of which were created a few days after this account. Looks like puppy accounts to me.
Please clarify if this isn't the case, I may be wrong.
EDIT: Reported, let's wait for a mod to determine this
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No offense but your account is suspiscious. You always get thanks and favourable remarks from Greatestandroid, Droidexists, gidefide and a few others, accounts of which were created a few days after this account. Looks like puppy accounts to me.
Please clarify if this isn't the case, I may be wrong.
EDIT: Reported, let's wait for a mod to determine this
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Almost every thread thanked by the same people, even a question thread, I dont know what to say, if this is true... I really cant believe why anyone would even do that. Where is humanity??
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The term is thanks whore. I went through and saw an undeniable connection between you and Greatestandroid...as for the others, im not too sure. Please do not do these kinda things. Im sorry if I falsely accuse, but really if you are, stop. It's spoiling the whole "thanks" idea...in that case, we all should walk around with 5 accounts thanking each others accounts 8 times a day...we'd be covered in thanks
If that's true...looool
He ask himself things and answer to himself...he even praise himself....that's just ridiculous!!!!
If you want thanks,gain them by helping people,not yourself...
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How many birds can you kill with one stone
nice review. i should give it a try
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