ICS Just doesnt cut it. - Galaxy S I9000 General

Ive recently downgraded back to CM7 GB. ICS just has too many bugs and it seems im the only one who seems to think its "slow" or jerky at times. I encourage you if you just want your phone to work and be as fast as it can be to go back to CM7. It seems everyone keeps saying ICS is ultra fast and ultra smooth. In my experiences, ICS just wasnt made for the SGS1, the hardware just isnt powerful enough, heck even the Galaxy Nexus looked a tad slow on ICS compared to how fast it is on JB.
I dont think CM10 will be that much different from CM9. Im looking into getting an S3 when they drop the price a little bit, (£500!!!! I can get a decent laptop for that price)

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I honestly disagree. I do feel Slim ICS is as fast, as any other 2.3 rom i've tried, with the added bonus of slightly improved responsiveness. This is my personal experience, of course.
And i also think it's not about the hardware. If it was, the iphone wouldn't be such a success. But this is a loaded statement and not really worth going over. I'm just glad everyone has a favourite flavour they can use

Ya really think dat ugly'n'slow CM7 is better dan ICS?

There are trillions of possible combinations of apps and settings, did you do a clean install (wipe everything)?
A clean ICS beats a clean 2.3 ROM.

kaynpayn said:
I honestly disagree. I do feel Slim ICS is as fast, as any other 2.3 rom i've tried, with the added bonus of slightly improved responsiveness. This is my personal experience, of course.
And i also think it's not about the hardware. If it was, the iphone wouldn't be such a success. But this is a loaded statement and not really worth going over. I'm just glad everyone has a favourite flavour they can use
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Yeah its definitely useable. but maybe its just me, I feel like sometimes it will run flawless then sometimes it will feel laggy and slow, regarding iOS, its alot better coded than Android (im going to get hate for taht, but its true, you can run obsolete processors with iOS and still get it to work flawlesly since its so closely ccontrolled and optimised) Its the same with Windows Phone 7. If theres anyone who hasnt tried using Wp7, I encourage you to do so, my next phone will hopefully be the SGS3, but with every single Android phone regardless of specs, sometimes theres a delay with some things, i.e. the gallery. Its not so much lag anymore, just a delay between pressing the app icon and it actually loading. On windows phone, you press the app, BOOM, instantly its there.But JellyBean and "project Butter" is a step in the right direction. (And it looks alot cooler)

is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
Thanks!

trexon said:
is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
Thanks!
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I used it and it's nice, especially the Music app .

dark_knight35 said:
I used it and it's nice, especially the Music app .
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and you have moved to ics?
what caused thay you have moved from MIUI to other rom?

You will come back in 6 hours or less.
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trexon said:
and you have moved to ics?
what caused thay you have moved from MIUI to other rom?
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MIUI v4 is ICS . I moved to test JB.

dark_knight35 said:
MIUI v4 is ICS . I moved to test JB.
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I got back to gingerbread although I liked the neat GUI of ICS and tested almost every variant of it except Slim ICS because it lacked support for Arabic based languages (my native language is Pashto). Another thing for me was the lack of feature of copying contacts to SIM which is crucial for me. Anyway I'm waiting if someone could include that feature, then certainly I will get back to ICS or JB.

ICS is good but the SGS just doesn't get the most of it, you can say what you want but if you think you're getting the full ICS experience on this phone you are sadly mistaken..
Honestly I don't blame the OP downgrading to GB, the sgs is what 2-3 years old now? If you want to run the latest software it might pay to start thinking about upgrading.
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MrIwik said:
ICS is good but the SGS just doesn't get the most of it, you can say what you want but if you think you're getting the full ICS experience on this phone you are sadly mistaken..
Honestly I don't blame the OP downgrading to GB, the sgs is what 2-3 years old now? If you want to run the latest software it might pay to start thinking about upgrading.
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For me,
Slim ICS>Froyo 2.2.1 (especially stock ZSJPK)>Any Gingerbread rom
Why? The answer is ram. The notion of free ram being wasted ram is just silly. When ram is full, the phone has to constantly close and reopen background processes, causing a decrease in smoothness.
That's why Froyo 2.2.1 was the best, because it had the most least ram consumption. However, slim ICS had that ridiculously big ram configuration, which put it on par with 2.2.1. But it ranks higher because it is ICS and has more features.

Hmm i downgraded to froyo a while ago and found it heaps laggier than ICS , JB is much better than ICS imo now.
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What a strange thread. I've been on a load of different ICS Roms, I've tried almost all of them and I've found 90% of them faster than stock Gingerbread/Froyo.
Right now I've been on CM10 Alpha (JB) for two days and my SGS feels like a new phone again. It's not perfect and 100% reliable, but it's pretty good for an alpha build.

im sorry. what is gingerbread/froyo? never heard of that.
it depends on personal preference to be honest.

trexon said:
is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
Thanks!
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I used tot Love MIUI but thats only because Android didnt look that good before ics.
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disclaimernotice said:
For me,
Slim ICS>Froyo 2.2.1 (especially stock ZSJPK)>Any Gingerbread rom
Why? The answer is ram. The notion of free ram being wasted ram is just silly. When ram is full, the phone has to constantly close and reopen background processes, causing a decrease in smoothness.
That's why Froyo 2.2.1 was the best, because it had the most least ram consumption. However, slim ICS had that ridiculously big ram configuration, which put it on par with 2.2.1. But it ranks higher because it is ICS and has more features.
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Im not a developer, but the ram being full is not always bad. It just depends on how the Os uses it. I agree if you are constantly clearing and caching the ram as u open apps, you will lose smoothness but, for instance, my version of nix pre caches the majority of ram in advance for various applications to use. In essence insuring there is enough ram available for gui apps. Obviously if you are overall limited on ram though it will slow things down.
I have never felt like the ics ports were sluggish, just bit battery heavy, and they seem to run hot. That being said GB is the best compromise for me. Plus there is so much more hacking done for GB.
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Gingerbread...why such a big deal?

i understand gingerbread is awesome...i understand it opens up some new territory. but the stock gingerbread and all the leaks out right now are all RFS. i tried the samsprint the other day. cool rom, love the way gingerbread looks, but its still RFS and its extremely laggy compared to ext4. just shifting through menus and whatnot was super slow let alone opening and closing apps. just the day to day functions are bogged down so my question is...why even put it on your phone until they make a ext4 version of it?
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i understand gingerbread is awesome...i understand it opens up some new territory. but the stock gingerbread and all the leaks out right now are all RFS. i tried the samsprint the other day. cool rom, love the way gingerbread looks, but its still RFS and its extremely laggy compared to ext4. just shifting through menus and whatnot was super slow let alone opening and closing apps. just the day to day functions are bogged down so my question is...why even put it on your phone until they make a ext4 version of it?
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Have you tried EF02 build. It very fast! EE03 build was a piece of crap
You need to try i1 rom its ef02 samsprint was crap compared to this it doesn't even feel rfs
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i understand gingerbread is awesome...i understand it opens up some new territory. but the stock gingerbread and all the leaks out right now are all RFS. i tried the samsprint the other day. cool rom, love the way gingerbread looks, but its still RFS and its extremely laggy compared to ext4. just shifting through menus and whatnot was super slow let alone opening and closing apps. just the day to day functions are bogged down so my question is...why even put it on your phone until they make a ext4 version of it?
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I agree. I'm on ef02 and there is no lag at all. Its as fast as most the ext4 roms I've tried, and smother in most cases.
EE03 on the other hand, made my wifes moment seem quick. Give the new leak a try, if you havent. The only thing I miss is the keyboard fix.
Edit: forgott to mention I'm usung marcusant i1 rom.
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Plus flash (with 10.3...plus a hulu hack ) plays sooo much better. Resolution and framerate. I believe its hardware accelerated playback, could be wrong. But it looks DAMN good!
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Plus flash (with 10.3...plus a hulu hack ) plays sooo much better. Resolution and framerate. I believe its hardware accelerated playback, could be wrong. But it looks DAMN good!
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I have flash 10.3 on froyo..
Also what hulu hack works with flash 10.3?
Yup what these guys said I'm on marcusant i1 rom and its crazy fast just so u know the bonsai team are testing there ext4 ef02 rom right now. I'm just waiting for that so I can try it out. Ohh and here's a benchmark score first run on marqusant (rfs) rom
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Such a big deal because it's really stable and fast, as opposed to their other POS builds that devs have to fix for them.
Gingerbread is the latest OS, so everyone wants it. Though, many reasons include Netflix working, FM radio capabilities, etc.
TorelliB said:
i understand gingerbread is awesome...i understand it opens up some new territory. but the stock gingerbread and all the leaks out right now are all RFS. i tried the samsprint the other day. cool rom, love the way gingerbread looks, but its still RFS and its extremely laggy compared to ext4. just shifting through menus and whatnot was super slow let alone opening and closing apps. just the day to day functions are bogged down so my question is...why even put it on your phone until they make a ext4 version of it?
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Regarding EF02, there are a few upgrades on the Sammy apps like email and calendar, but the real improvements are under the hood. It's smooth as butter, way better than any other stock rom and at least as good as the best Froyo EXT4. Perhaps it doesn't produce the fastest benchmarks, but programs load fast and screens transition smoothly. That's much more important to me than measuring the length of my di....er I mean benchmarking
Plus, I've NEVER gotten battery life this good on any rom.
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I have flash 10.3 on froyo..
Also what hulu hack works with flash 10.3?
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Yes, I had it on froyo too, it's at least 2-3x better on gingerbread. Give a vevo video a try at 480p fullscreen, amazing. The hulu hack is a bit of my own creation. I found the libs for 10.3.185.24 (latest market) hacked, but they get replaced on bootup. So I wrote a script in /system/etc/init.d/ that copies the hacked ones from /data/flash/ (where I put the hacked ones) to /data/data/com.adobe.flashplayer/libs/ and voiala, hack stays on reboot
EDIT: And even on froyo I was oced to 1.3 and on ext4 no journaling. Gbs still faster with flash (and other things).
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Yes, I had it on froyo too, it's at least 2-3x better on gingerbread. Give a vevo video a try at 480p fullscreen, amazing. The hulu hack is a bit of my own creation. I found the libs for 10.3.185.24 (latest market) hacked, but they get replaced on bootup. So I wrote a script in /system/etc/init.d/ that copies the hacked ones from /data/flash/ (where I put the hacked ones) to /data/data/com.adobe.flashplayer/libs/ and voiala, hack stays on reboot
EDIT: And even on froyo I was oced to 1.3 and on ext4 no journaling. Gbs still faster with flash (and other things).
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do you have a zip for your version because the original hulu hack that worked with 10.1 doesn't work with the new version of flash...i always get the "I have no flash" icon on all flash content when i try that hulu hack
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do you have a zip for your version because the original hulu hack that worked with 10.1 doesn't work with the new version of flash...i always get the "I have no flash" icon on all flash content when i try that hulu hack
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+1
I am glad to read the reports that GB does actually make the phone work faster and more efficiently. As powerful as the hardware Samsung built is, the software has to take advantage. Froyo already did a lot in that department but bring on the treats!
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i understand gingerbread is awesome...i understand it opens up some new territory. but the stock gingerbread and all the leaks out right now are all RFS. i tried the samsprint the other day. cool rom, love the way gingerbread looks, but its still RFS and its extremely laggy compared to ext4. just shifting through menus and whatnot was super slow let alone opening and closing apps. just the day to day functions are bogged down so my question is...why even put it on your phone until they make a ext4 version of it?
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Yanno, I understand the benefits of ext4, but if clicking through menus is laggy, it isn't the file system. File system access times only impact performance when the file system is...being accessed. Once a program is in memory, the rfs vs ext4 issue isn't nearly as significant (excluding, naturally, whenever the program accesses something not in memory).
TorelliB said:
i understand gingerbread is awesome...i understand it opens up some new territory. but the stock gingerbread and all the leaks out right now are all RFS. i tried the samsprint the other day. cool rom, love the way gingerbread looks, but its still RFS and its extremely laggy compared to ext4. just shifting through menus and whatnot was super slow let alone opening and closing apps. just the day to day functions are bogged down so my question is...why even put it on your phone until they make a ext4 version of it?
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How about you try the newest build? Improved battery life, better data speeds (debatable), way faster OS, more features. Yeah not a big deal at all.
Kinda like asking why upgrade from windows vista to windows 7. Also, i know we all like fast phones but to be able to get the benefits of an upgraded OS the fractional extra amount of time it takes shouldn't bother us. If we spend that much time on our phones that it actually makes a difference. Well cant help us with that i guess.
TorelliB said:
i understand gingerbread is awesome...i understand it opens up some new territory. but the stock gingerbread and all the leaks out right now are all RFS. i tried the samsprint the other day. cool rom, love the way gingerbread looks, but its still RFS and its extremely laggy compared to ext4. just shifting through menus and whatnot was super slow let alone opening and closing apps. just the day to day functions are bogged down so my question is...why even put it on your phone until they make a ext4 version of it?
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Im on ext4
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Im on ext4
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Are you holding back on us
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I didn't think GB was a big deal until this latest leak. Now after trying out how much it improves performance, can't wait for the official to drop.

[Q] Best Rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE?

I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.
crazykas said:
I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.
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it's impossible for something to be perfect and without having a single issue. but the rom with the least issues in my opinion would be Virtuous Unity, a great rom developed by the hardworking Virtuous team. that rom is the closest you can get to perfect. try it.
website: http://www.virtuousrom.com/
thread is in the mytouch 4g development section.
crazykas said:
I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.
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What is it that you are wanting out of a rom? Different people like different things, and while some like vu (myself included), others want a more vanilla Android experience. Which would point closer to cm.
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Depends on your preference. I like sense and the one nearest to perfect for me is Virtuous Unity. Like saranhai said nothing is perfect nothing will be. The stock rom that comes with mytouch is not perfect at all. Some roms have a tad little bit of lag some just a little bit more. Something about every rom is different. Like eqjunkie829 said. You could want sense like me, him and alotof other people. Or you can go with a more aosp/vanilla rom.
How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?
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How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?
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no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.
saranhai said:
no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.
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agree, mysense its garbage.
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saranhai said:
no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.
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No offense or anything but im trying to help the guy rathar than say. "depends" "its all about preference" or "use the search button"
By you saying it sucks is too general. What does "suck" mean?
His answers will allow us to pinpoint him in the right direction. Other wise I might as well copy and paste all the links i saved.
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No offense or anything but im trying to help the guy rathar than say. "depends" "its all about preference" or "use the search button"
By you saying it sucks is too general. What does "suck" mean?
His answers will allow us to pinpoint him in the right direction. Other wise I might as well copy and paste all the links i saved.
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well, suck as in crappy UI, terrible lag, battery draining etc.
yes, i know you're trying to help him, i'm just saying, that the stock UI is really bad.
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How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?
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I bought this 3 months ago.I like a battery saving Rom.I know there are faster Roms,but current speed (official GB update)doesn't feel bad for me.Also, there is a problem of camera quality of this GB update.
Easy. CM7.
Nothing is more stable and more battery efficient than CM7.
Can't go wrong.
Hmmmm, without a single issue?
I don't think such an animal exists in our modern world...
From my experience, using the stock sense that came with the phone had by far far far more issues than cm6, 7 and 7.1- fc almost every phone conversation followed by signal loss, flaky wifi, lots of problems with the (nice) automatic profile switching etc.
So whatever you install, you're probably going to be "issuewise" much better than stock. Perhaps you'll have to sweat a little more to make it look as neat as sense, though.
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MIUI. I got tired of sense roms, that drains battery a lot and makes phone lag after some use.
MIUI is fast, stupid fast actually, and i'm @ 1 GHz CPU. Super customizable , good for battery save.
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Easy. CM7.
Nothing is more stable and more battery efficient than CM7.
+1
Can't go wrong.
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crazykas said:
I bought this 3 months ago.I like a battery saving Rom.I know there are faster Roms,but current speed (official GB update)doesn't feel bad for me.Also, there is a problem of camera quality of this GB update.
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Try Cyanogen mod (CM7). Like a few suggested!
All my cam apps work great on the stable version.
Battery life is probably the best of all the ROMs because of its simplicity.
This ROM is all about functionality
Although I use MIUI. Which also has great battery life (1day 6hrs) it has its quirks with some camera apps. I just wanted a sleeker user interface
I use a simple cam app anyways and I love the customization. My main goal for rom was battery life, & speed ( i was on 2.2 and it was very laggy out of the box) I just got my phone 2 months ago.
My last smart phone was an htc fuze lol and my previous phone was a simple nokia bar phone.
So I was totally oblivious to rooting prior to 2 months ago.
cyanogen
well I'm using cyanogen 7 stable version and I don't have any issue
running TDJ 2.2.0 just to switch things up a little bit
10+ hours and just now hitting 50%, so far so good
TDJ's port of that rom works wonders
Virtuous Unity for me, never one single issue, great performance, features, speed, battery life.
tydgilyard said:
Depends on your preference. I like sense and the one nearest to perfect for me is Virtuous Unity. Like saranhai said nothing is perfect nothing will be. The stock rom that comes with mytouch is not perfect at all. Some roms have a tad little bit of lag some just a little bit more. Something about every rom is different. Like eqjunkie829 said. You could want sense like me, him and alotof other people. Or you can go with a more aosp/vanilla rom.
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Virtuous unity was ok, not perfect by any means. It was a heavy rom, some times leggy and had some random FC's I never got in other roms. For a more stock sense/espresso hybrid (with out the stupid blocky apps), royal glacier has to be the most stable rom I have tried. I am currently running Faux's nexus rom and I love it so far, no issues. So if your into AOSP stuff, I would look into that.
Faux nexus 1.3.1
So I have been using faux's nexus 1.3.1 ROM for about a week now, I calibrated the battery right after I flashed it using the battery calibration app, and the battery life is amazing. It lasted 1 day 5 hours according to my battery stats right after I calibrated. Also it has been one of the most stable ROMs I have used besides royalglacier. No FC's or random reboots. One thing I have learned, which may be a total noob thing but whatever, is if you are going from sense to AOSP, you cannot restore any data after you flash your rom. You have to use titanium backup or the mybackup pro app to get your apps, SMS, call logs and the likes back. It might be common sense but i never knew that and it kept me away from aosp roms for a long time!

[POLL] Do you think ics is a failure??

I just want to share my opinion based on some reading.
Till now Samsung was not able to release bug free ICS ROM, despite the 6 months of working.
Also, I am noticing several complaints in both forums the nexus s and galaxy nexus.
ICS has proved to be slow compared to gingerbread, also it seems to be more battery consuming.
For now I am sticking to GB, maybe we should wait till Google releases the 4.0.4 update, even though I am not so positive.
Google its your job now.
So what do you think??
Dude!! HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER ROCKS?
4.0.4 has already been released and ics Is contrary to all the points you brought out
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Samsung's ICS is bug free, but it is slower than GB and consumes more battery (as you said)... That is why I am using GB...
Neo said:
Dude under which rocks have you been living?
4.0.4 has already been released and ics Is contrary to all the points you brought out
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4.0.4 was released only for nexus s and galaxy nexus, still there are plenty of bugs to be cured. BTW, have you read about connection problems in galaxy nexus due to the 4.0.4 update.
no, ICS is not a failure.
try it yourself and you'll get what i mean.
You are judging and making conclusions based on the complaints by the minorities, and that just doesn't make sense to me...
Look at the majority who are willing to try out the awesomeness of ICS custom roms, look at the number of views of ICS rom threads in this forum, look at the positive, encouraging comments people write to the devs. All these combined should carry some gravitas, right?
Oh yeah, btw, 4.0.4 is already out, take a look at cyanogen 9. It's just that Samsung is not currently implementing this update into the stock roms.
Unfortunately Samsung implementation of ics is an epic failure. Slow and horrible. But that's Samsung and its pretty early days (3months!?)
Plenty of custom ics roms (cm9 specifically) that prove what ics can do when freed from touchwiz Samsung tweaked rubbish.
4.04 been out a while. Try a custom rom you won't go back
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no, ICS is not a failure.
try it yourself and you'll get what i mean.
You are judging and making conclusions based on the complaints by the minorities, and that just doesn't make sense to me...
Look at the majority who are willing to try out the awesomeness of ICS custom roms, look at the number of views of ICS rom threads in this forum, look at the positive, encouraging comments people write to the devs. All these combined should carry some gravitas, right?
Oh yeah, btw, 4.0.4 is already out, take a look at cyanogen 9. It's just that Samsung is not currently implementing this update into the stock roms.
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Don't forget that we payed $700 for Samsung, Samsung is the one responsible for giving us updates. Also, xda devs are only willing to improve and make our experience richer.
pahardie said:
Unfortunately Samsung implementation of ics is an epic failure. Slow and horrible. But that's Samsung and its pretty early days (3months!?)
Plenty of custom ics roms (cm9 specifically) that prove what ics can do when freed from touchwiz Samsung tweaked rubbish.
4.04 been out a while. Try a custom rom you won't go back
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CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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Dark Emotion said:
Samsung's ICS is bug free, but it is slower than GB and consumes more battery (as you said)... That is why I am using GB...
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Hm! Don't know what is going on with your device but here it's nowhere near slow, and battery? Well it consumes same amount as in GB, no way more.
This ICS and impleneted HW acceleration and other stuffs kept me to stick with Android for little while longer actually, just when i was thinking about switching back to iOS it came and successfully purchased me, for some time the least.
And Samsung had put/implemented ICS exactly the way they wanted to be. Some few peoples opinion and nagging won't care them the bit, nor they should be bothered about it.
Besides, what's the point of this thread
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CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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Not getting terrible battery life here. Its same as stock really. Try siyah see if that helps you out or do a full wipe etc etc
To the op
Samsungs ics roms are late and hide most benefits of ics which is why I dislike them
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And screen-on time is...?
P.S. I didn't say that CM9 (or any other ICS) has terrible battery life, I just said that it is not as good as GB... And I always do a full wipe when flashing ROMs
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And screen-on time is...?
P.S. I didn't say that CM9 (or any other ICS) has terrible battery life, I just said that it is not as good as GB... And I always do a full wipe when flashing ROMs
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I love ICS, run now on LUX LP4 and loving it.
Always do a full wipe and you have no problems
ICS is absolutely no failure in my opinion
I have installed CM9 + siyah 3.0
I have very good battery life (yeah sligtly less then gb, but i think the cause is that everithing is beta) but i have increased 10 times the responsiveness of my phone.. Everithing is better with ics..
ICS definitely no failure
I don't share the views on speed or battery life - in my view there is little tangible difference on my SGS2 - if anything I would say speed is a little better. Battery life depends on so many variables that it's almost impossible to be objective.
In terms of the update itself, it is definitely an improvement but still also a slight disappointment. In evolutionary terms we have crawled out of the primordial soup and lost the fins but we are still grooming each other looking for scurf and wondering where the smell comes from when we poke our fingers up our bottoms. The quest for fire remains a distant dream...
I can't vote in the poll therefore because there needs to be a middle option.
ICS is not a failure, actually it is a good path for android to travel. What let us down is the distribution method chosen by the oem and even by google itself. The purpose of bringing ics is not even satisfied by all the smartphones which got ics updates.
ICS is good.
Implementation of samsung/sony/htc is not good.
My $0.02, based on testing, and total indifference to "oo-Samsung-sux-lolz-I-demand-newest-FW-yesterday-Samsung-owes-me-I-paid-so-much-CM9-rox".
Failure? No. But not cool, awesome, rocking nor deserving of some of the fanboy praise posted here, in my opinion.
I've tried many, many stock and custom ICS, AOKP and CM9, every kernel and every combination (36 flashes since 30th March, to be precise). Not a single combination has been smoother or qucker than my daily driver or my next two preferences - krinyo's SlimROM, rohit's GB MIUI and Insanity build 57.
Battery life isn't a dealbreaker for me, lag is. I don't have bloatware, don't use mail, am not on Twitter or Facebook, haven't had TW launcher on my phone for 9 months. Even stripped down like this, my GB-based ROMs outperform everything else. And they're a hell of a lot more stable too.
As always, each to their own. But I haven't found any reason to leave GB after all this testing. Certainly no problem in refuting the "once you've tried 4.0.4 you'll never go back" spiel, which is lazy generalization based on nothing.
Unlike many, I wasn't wetting myself in anticipation of ICS, hence haven't needed to change my pants.
And the "poll" is ridiculous, pointless and useless, and not even a poll - there is middle ground.
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WooW, that is not bad at all mate, for me i've never get over 3 hours screen on time before
i might test cm9 out
can i also ask what kernel are u using?

MIUI v4 Discussion Thread

As we all know, the Galaxy Note was recently added for official MIUI support. MIUI China is working towards a first public build. Contrary to popular belief, MIUI v4 is based on the Stock ROMs rather than CyanogenMod 9. So, almost everything should be working flawless from the start -- as it was supposed to be. All in all, we can look forward to the looks of MIUI and the functionality of Stock ROMs.
According to the latest polls, 4x5 icon layout has been chosen as the default which is rather perfect for the Note's large screen. Here's the screenshot from the tweet...
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What's interesting to note is the S Memo icon! Although, that was expected since MIUI is based on stock Sammy ROMs, yet it's nice to have a "confirmation".
We'll also have the emmc bug then...
Though I won't be able to go to another ROM that doens't have per app DPI/Layout ever again...
what does it say about the emmc brickbug? will they have MMC_CAP_ERASE removed for safety?
also I guess that this means MIUI4 can no longer be considered AOSP ,since it's using TW as abase.
should be interesting though ,keep us posted please
Guess they are using lq2 base with rooted cf kernel.
but we can flash franco kernel etc. id wait for miui scotlands version of the official rom as they make it really better for samsung devices
^^ Exactly! I suppose we would be able to flash SpeedMod/Franco Kernel. So, we'll be safe from the eMMC bug to a certain extent -- of course, if we follow the instructions.
I'm excited because we get to retain all the stock goodness! I'm using PA myself and it'll be rather hard to switch to any other ROM. However, I'm a long time fan of MIUI and will definitely switch once it's available in all it's goodness.
Also, the MIUI theme contest which is going on right now should give us some great themes, which is lacking ATM.
love how they're asking the community what they want in the rom; how it should be done. only weak link is samsung, how a multi-million dollar company is out-shined by the dev community never ceases to amuse me xD.
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^^ Exactly! I suppose we would be able to flash SpeedMod/Franco Kernel. So, we'll be safe from the eMMC bug to a certain extent -- of course, if we follow the instructions.
I'm excited because we get to retain all the stock goodness! I'm using PA myself and it'll be rather hard to switch to any other ROM. However, I'm a long time fan of MIUI and will definitely switch once it's available in all it's goodness.
Also, the MIUI theme contest which is going on right now should give us some great themes, which is lacking ATM.
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I agree my friend. Some exciting times...miss miui... the amount of customization we can do...oh yeah!!
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Ha ha I logged on to post a similar thread when I found yours. Cheers!!
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love how they're asking the community what they want in the rom; how it should be done. only weak link is samsung, how a multi-million dollar company is out-shined by the dev community never ceases to amuse me xD.
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I don't think fb is the best place to get feedback. End users don't necessarily understand the concepts of developing or porting a ROM. Will try and push this thread to them, once it picks up activity.
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^^ Exactly! I suppose we would be able to flash SpeedMod/Franco Kernel. So, we'll be safe from the eMMC bug to a certain extent -- of course, if we follow the instructions.
I'm excited because we get to retain all the stock goodness! I'm using PA myself and it'll be rather hard to switch to any other ROM. However, I'm a long time fan of MIUI and will definitely switch once it's available in all it's goodness.
Also, the MIUI theme contest which is going on right now should give us some great themes, which is lacking ATM.
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of course we can flash a safe kernel ,but it would be nice if they released their own optimized safe kernel to begin with.
and yes I also think it would be interesting to see MIUI4 based on TW ,hopefully it won't have lagging or memory management issues like official ICS does.
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of course we can flash a safe kernel ,but it would be nice if they released their own optimized safe kernel to begin with.
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Don't expect much in the Kernel department. Everybody always switches MIUI Kernels ASAP mostly because they're not optimized for performance/battery. They're mostly just optimized to run.
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Don't expect much in the Kernel department. Everybody always switches MIUI Kernels ASAP mostly because they're not optimized for performance/battery. They're mostly just optimized to run.
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oh ,I didn't know that ,your MIUI V4 port was the first (brief) encounter with MIUI for me.
and since it was based on cm9 kernel it was actually very smooth.
here is hoping the real MIUI port is at least just as good
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oh ,I didn't know that ,your MIUI V4 port was the first (brief) encounter with MIUI for me.
and since it was based on cm9 kernel it was actually very smooth.
here is hoping the real MIUI port is at least just as good
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The official port should have a butter-smooth launcher just like MiHome for ICS.
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The official port should have a butter-smooth launcher just like MiHome for ICS.
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seeing that you are a long tie MIUI fan ,may I ask you what's so good about it?
when I tested your port the positive side was a feel of elegance ,and total customization even more than CM9.
the bad side however was the iOS look of the launcher which I hate so much,and the lack of an app drawer.
luckily the launcher can be easily replaced ,and since this is based on TW ,I can switch to it to retain full functionality ,while (hopefully) not draining all my RAM like the official sammy ROMs does.
so care to enlighten me to more positive points of this popular ROM ,ones that I won't find in CM9 (beside the TW functionality obviously).
thank you
Even I hate the fact that the launcher doesn't have an app drawer but there is an app for that -- MIUI Control -- it gives you a pull down app-drawer.
The best thing about MIUI is the fact that you can theme pretty much every aspect of the ROM with a click of a button. That's not the case with CM9. There aren't many themes for MIUI v4 as of now, however that will change in the near future.
Also, with MIUI you have the option to apply individual elements of different themes -- and then combine them into one theme file. That alone makes it the best ROM for theming.
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Even I hate the fact that the launcher doesn't have an app drawer but there is an app for that -- MIUI Control -- it gives you a pull down app-drawer.
The best thing about MIUI is the fact that you can theme pretty much every aspect of the ROM with a click of a button. That's not the case with CM9. There aren't many themes for MIUI v4 as of now, however that will change in the near future.
Also, with MIUI you have the option to apply individual elements of different themes -- and then combine them into one theme file. That alone makes it the best ROM for theming.
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exactly ,that pretty much sums what I know about MIUI from my ~1 hour trial with it
good to know that there is an app drawer ,can't stand a combined view of apps and widgets.
thanks again
I've already ask them about the removing of the emmc-bug in their kernel here and on their "what device should get miui next?" poll. Without any answer.
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I've already ask them about the removing of the emmc-bug in their kernel here and on their "what device should get miui next?" poll. Without any answer.
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I asked them on their facebook page but forgot to check back on the answer lol
I have been using MIUI for more than a year on my HD2, which I have sold to get Galaxy Note. I can tell you that the nicest thing about MIUI roms is the notification bar on top. I don't understand why all ROMs don't have this notification / control panel that MIUI has.
No more widgets to turn on bluetooth, wifi or toggle between 2g and 3g to save battery. You just pull down the curtain, and switch everything on or off easily. So this is what I miss most on other ROMs.
The rest, its a very fast and smooth mobile OS. Simple to use, lots of themes and frequent updates with new features and bug fixes.
Not sure how well it will handle the S Pen, as this is one of the features that separate G.Note from the rest of the competition, but if they manage to get everything working well, I am sure that it will be a great success.
^^ Agreed. The main thing I like about MIUI is that it is a complete experience right off the bat. You get...
1. File Explorer
2. Backup
3. Monitor
4. Blacklist
...and so much more! Of course you can install all these separately for other ROMs but it's nice to know that they're all packaged with MIUI.
And yes, it would be great if they manage to retain all the S-Pen functionality. With custom ROMs we lose this functionality which then makes our phone like any other. Don't get me wrong, I love myself some PA/CM9/AOKP goodness, but then my phone doesn't feel any different from the S2 I had.
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^^ Agreed. The main thing I like about MIUI is that it is a complete experience right off the bat. You get...
1. File Explorer
2. Backup
3. Monitor
4. Blacklist
...and so much more! Of course you can install all these separately for other ROMs but it's nice to know that they're all packaged with MIUI.
And yes, it would be great if they manage to retain all the S-Pen functionality. With custom ROMs we lose this functionality which then makes our phone like any other. Don't get me wrong, I love myself some PA/CM9/AOKP goodness, but then my phone doesn't feel any different from the S2 I had.
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well the Spen still works in CM9 ,just without the Snote app ,have you tried installing photoshop touch? you get absolute control with the pen .
did you know that hovering the pen gives you a mouse cursor in CM9 ,while touching it will register a click ,just like a desktop PC .
but of course it will be nice tom have MIUI with all TW functionality ,IF they keep the performance a priority

cm9 not as good as cm7.2

dissapointed in the following ways, I hope the downgrade path is easy.
Haptic feedback cannot be turned off.
Phone and contacts no longer fully integrated in one app.
contacts has background etc. that doesnt stick to OS theme.
Cannot disable pictures on contacts.
Cannot toggle contacts with numbers only on/off
Many options in the contacts/phone dissapeared. (yes ones I used)
The call screen is worse than the 7.2 version, smaller buttons for speakerphone etc.
Less options in the OS settings.
Launcher not as good as CM7.2 version.
The clear notifications button seems out of place.
Cancel number button out of place on dialer.
I am also not that satisfied by ICS itself. ICs/CM9 seems overhyped, will try CM10 but given there is not stable CM10 for this phone, and people say CM10 has the same contact issues I think I will be putting CM7.2 on in the end and not getting a s3/s3 mini at all (since they cant use GB).
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I think I will be putting CM7.2 on in the end and not getting a s3/s3 mini at all (since they cant use GB).
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By this logic, you will never be able to purchase any phone in the future, let alone the S3/S3 Mini. Are you sure you are in the correct device thread though? Just confirming.
What the hell u talking abt? Were u living in the 90s ?? ICS is history !! We r rocking in 4.1 Jelly bean & u talking abt Gingerbread ....makes he laugh...
And u said ics has less options in settings! Are u blind? Ics has more options in settings than GB.its just organised and categorized ..
U criticising the Holo UI !! Go live in a cave if u think Holo UI is not gr8...go buy an iphone...
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ICS stock vs GB stock has about 3-4 extra options, but loses 3 options.
However CM7.2 vs CM9, CM7.2 has over 30 extra configurable options.
You guys ignored the list I said of all missing features, instead just went on a anti GB rave.
There is more.
I noticed now as well Trebuchet launcher is pretty bad, cant even add shortcuts to it, it does seem CM went backwards a lot from 7.2 to 9.
Now CM10 may be better than CM9, but isnt stable on this phone.
right now I am seeing if I can find replaceables.
Nova launcher works ok but the dock I have to press on hard and repeated times for it to work, googled the problem, others said same complaint but no fix. I tried adw launcher which works great in cm7.2, but is slower on cm9 on a s2 than it is on cm7.2 with an ace, whats that about?
I installed siyah kernel and extweaks, very nice kernel and that got me BLN. A proper working BLN (buggy on CM 7.2 on the ace).
I downloaded a new dialler (exdialer), its big improvement over cm9 dialer but not as good as cm7.2 dialer, how sweet it would be if I could find cm7.2 dialer to install on cm9/10.
Camera in cm9 much better than 7.2. But it has very loud sounds for focus and snap that cant turn off, they sound aweful as well very annoying.
I still have haptic feedback that cant be turned off either, eg. when using keyboard.
and finally the keyboard in cm9 is worse than 7.2, on 7.2 press shift twice for caps lock, on cm9 have to hold it down for caps lock
So you guys praising JB (and I assume cm10.1) the question is does it fix the problems I have listed, remember one key phrase, newer does not necessarily = better.
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Now CM10 may be better than CM9, but isnt stable on this phone
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Which phone is "this"? The one in your signature? Then you are in the wrong forum to begin with...
Latest CM10.1 version has MANY additional features. If you see any lack, go to the github and make some commits!
I think whatever floats your boat, it's nice to get a view on older, more mature versions in comparison. It's like the old XP, vista, 7, 8 debate. Whatever works for you.
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Which phone is "this"? The one in your signature? Then you are in the wrong forum to begin with...
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How about assuming its the S2 because its the S2 section of the site. But phone isnt relevant anyway as I am talking about the software not the hardware. Unless CM9 is a different software on different phones.
Is it that hard to comment on what I am saying in my post instead of just attacking and mocking me? maybe I make valid points but you dont to upset any devs, I dont know, tell me.
For clarity I will repeat.
the galaxy s2 i9100 (not G variant).
the only stable builds of CM for this phone are CM7.2 and CM9.
cm7.2 has dozens of configurations that are removed in cm9.
I noted any reviews i read of cm9 (presumably not wanting to upset developers) have considered removed features as non important and not worth worrying about, however I used many of the configurations removed in cm9 such as the ability to disable haptic feedback, ability to remove pictures of contacts, ability to list only contacts with numbers and the dialer in cm9 is pretty bad compared to whats in cm7.2.
The phone I use for calls etc. is whats in my sig, I am merely experimenting with this now as I dont just switch to a phone where I dont like the interface, I spent weeks if not months getting my ace experience to something useable. It seems it will be the same with the s2/s3 (I wont be using this s2 either but using it to test cm9/10 whilst waiting for s3 to arrive and then may not even keep the s3 and switch to nexus or something for stable cm10 build).
I will test cm10 also, but I have had people tell me already it takes more from cm9 than it does cm7.2.
So is it possible to simply comment on what I put in my first 2 posts in this thread, the functions removed in cm9 and if its possible to get them put back in cm9/10 via downloadable apps.
I also prefer CM7 but I think it's more of a nostalgia thing when I owned my Nexus One. Plus I love that CM colour themed Nexus live wallpaper.
Hey, whatever floats your boat.
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Ok I am now trying a AOSP JB rom from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810042
So I see now that the dialer/contact/launcher changes I dont like are from ICS/JB itself which CM simply kept in their rom.
I do agree some will prefer JB/ICS everyone has their own taste, i didnt mean to offend anyone but was more hoping someone had a way to use CM7.2 dialer in CM9/10. Or CM7.2 dialer in any other rom.
again I am not too happy tho with the rom, it seems there is regressions on every android update google do.
they seem very pro cloud and anti privacy.
So on ICS and GB can disable auto sync globally on the phone, completely turn it off, GB also can stop any apps doing background activity globally (removed in ICS). I see on JB the option to turn sync on/off appears to be missing, I added my gmail account and it immediatly started syncing before I could disable individually the sync things on that account. So now I have a load of junk downloaded to the phone.
I also seen video clips showing super power widgets on JB (videos trying to show of how good JB is), but this has none at all.
It seems ICS/JB just arent for me I guess, the new features they bring dont seem to interest me, however I did want to upgrade the OS because of ICS/JB only apps (future proofing) and some hardware features require 4.x to work?
Looking through the phone settings, the only options I see that are not configurable on stock GB are a few extra for the keyboard input and voice input. Otherwise the only changes are actually removed options, it seems every progression of android is to simplify it.
My S3 is here now, if I am to use GB I will have to use a different phone unless the S3 maybe has a GB rom for it. This S2 is too damaged around the edges for my everyday phone (got of ebay).
if u really want something stable try TW 4.1.2 :good:
it has a lot of GS3 features and its fast + smooth as butter
try it one time and u will not look back
yeah still playing with firmwares
Now got PA 3.1.5 on (4.2.2) which I think is either based on CM 10.1 or has elements of CM in it as they credit CM in their post.
JB 4.1.1 AOSP was slow on this phone, I noticed it just by seeing backup restores been slower, apps slower to load etc. and when I did a quadrant benchmark and compared to the ICS scores they were about half, tons of loss on i/o speed in particular. 2d alo had a chunk of a hit, the score was so low compared to ICS and CM9 it was almost as low as my ace gets although the feeling was quite as slow as the ace, still much faster. (scores back up on this 4.2.2 based rom).
So I found now in the data usage options the ability to disable auto sync. I also found how to add settings shortcuts using trebuchat, I prefer the way in ADW launcher but at least its now gone from not been possible to just a slow way,
Played with the JB notification bar widgets, whilst better than what could do in ICS I find it clunky to use, they too spaced out and have to click on a button first to make them appear, plus is too many I dont have use for, but maybe there is a way to disable ones dont need to toggle. The widget configuration in CM 7.2 was perfect for me (to be fair I think was retained in CM9 also) but its gone in this rom.
I still have no progress on replacing the people app for contacts, ideally I still want to use whatever app CM used in CM7.2. also not a fan of the apps and widget been shown together in the ap drawer, to me app drawer should be just apps and nothing else. But thats not a showstopper, the dialer/contacts is the showstopper at the moment.
scores if anyone interested.
quadrant -> ics s2 stock (cm9) [aosp JB 4.1.x] <PA3 4.2.2>
overall 3751 (3459) [2583] <3751>
cpu 5309 (5654) [4689] <5543>
mem 3786 (1834) [1972] <4242>
io 7417 (7406) [3902] <6302>
2d 439 (500) [370] <500>
3d 1806 (1901) [1983] <2167>
Stock TW 4.1.2 for u
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But gb is so slow and has a lot of lags JB is fast and has butter scrolling is super smooth compared to GB
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quadrant -> ics s2 stock (cm9) [aosp JB 4.1.x] <PA3 4.2.2>
overall 3751 (3459) [2583] <3751>
cpu 5309 (5654) [4689] <5543>
mem 3786 (1834) [1972] <4242>
io 7417 (7406) [3902] <6302>
2d 439 (500) [370] <500>
3d 1806 (1901) [1983] <2167>
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Quadrant is too crappy benchmark to rely on BTW
u can try Antutu or geekbench instead
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OK that TW screenshot has my interest
camera etc seems stable on this ROM.
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Think it has to do with simplifying the OS, we here are power users but most of the options were for me anyway null and void and overkill for an everyday use phone. You will find most if not all your options that you miss in CM7 are not there and probably never will be I'm afraid.
Google themselves want a simplified phone that the everyday Joe can easily use, and the CM team are so busy these days maintaining so many different devices that I think they would prefer a stable, fast, usable phone that wasn't crammed full of options some of which most would never use.
Just my opinion lol.
I agree those are probably the exact reasons.
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when ever I want to have flashing break , I use cm7.2 + fluxi :good:
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when ever I want to have flashing break , I use cm7.2 + fluxi :good:
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Does that jb modem work ok on cm7? I used kl1
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