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Stable Gingerbread Sense Rom?

Okay I've been reading and reading and reading about all these new leaks and new gingerbread roms, and sense 1.0, sense 2.0 and sense 3.0 and i'm just entirely confused now =)
Is there a stable, Gingerbread Sense rom ?
Like i am rooted, and i have tried tons of roms, but i really like the stock sense rom.
Is there a stock gingerbread rom yet that is as stable as the stock froyo rom i'm running now? or are they all unstable or at least have some sort of issues?
I saw that there's a gingerbread stock rom with sense 1.0 ? what's the difference between sense 1.0 and my stock sense? I also saw that theres an HTC Sensation port with sense 3.0 , is this stable and stock?
I basically just want the exact same thing i have now, except gingerbread instead of froyo.. does this exist?

The leaked ginger rom is perfectly stable just a brightness bug with nova screens other than that perfectly fine
from my phone duh

if you want GB + Sense 1.0, give Fresh 4.0.0.4 a try.
if you want GB + Sense 2.1, i've enjoyed MikG 2.1B1 so far. no wimax yet, but i'm in the middle of nowhere right now, so it's not a big issue.
the GB + Sense 3.0 rom is probably frustrating to use, because last time i looked at it, none of the screensizes/graphics looked right.

is there a real good reason to switch to a GB rom from Fresh Froyo for ex?
Like batter battery life (probably worse from what I've read)? Faster/Smoother? New apps?
I just don't think it's worth the trouble, imo

CheesyNutz said:
The leaked ginger rom is perfectly stable just a brightness bug with nova screens other than that perfectly fine
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>perfectly stable
>brightness bug
wat? mfw
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People being stuck at 100% brightness isn't perfectly stable. Derp.

I'm using virusRom Gingersense Rev B2, and it's super smooth. I had to fix the mms, but other than that GPS works, battery life is great. Good Rom.

barry.bishop72 said:
I'm using virusRom Gingersense Rev B2, and it's super smooth. I had to fix the mms, but other than that GPS works, battery life is great. Good Rom.
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+1 agree 100%. Been running virusrom gengersense B2 all week and loving it!

DrRyder said:
>perfectly stable
>brightness bug
wat? mfw
People being stuck at 100% brightness isn't perfectly stable. Derp.
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nothing to do with the rom its the kernel .. so yes the rom is stable

Hey are you sure the battery life is fine because im really not sure that the battery is doing a good job. I feel like the battery life on this rom is eating away faster then it should be. Do you know ways to fix that?

I've used the stock leaked gb with sense 1.0, Mikhail (gb with sense 2.1) beta 2 to rc1, and viruses gingersense b3 and currently b4 alpha 1. Each I've used for at least a day. I also ran cm7 nightly 63 for a bit in there.
If you have a nova screen, run the GPS fix (##gpsclrx#), and use prl 1.77, all of these Tom's are pretty stable. The only reason I left mikG was for video on Google talk which I could not get working on mikg for the life of me. Also I could not get the GPS fix to run on viruses b4, but as long as you run it on another gb sense 2.1 rom first, so my GPS is working fine. No 4g on the sense 2.1 ports. Viruses sense 3.0 port is about to have a beta released, once that is stab it will be the sense rom to end all sense roms as it has 4g working already. With the work virus does it'll be a stable daily driver within a week or two. It will still have the nova screen problem I believe, as I think it uses the leaked Evo gb kernel.
For now I think if you have an Epson screen you can't go wrong with mikg rc1. If you gotta try Google talk with voice step it up to viruses gingersense beta 4. If you need 4g, stick with fresh or calculin's versions of the leaked gb with sense 1.0. Personally though I won't go back to sense 1.0 now that I'm using 2.1 for over a week. Lastly if you have a nova screen, there are some market brightness apps that work (juice defender, among others, has been mentioned) so you could still give it a shot.
With a full wipe I have had no stability issues besides the GPS lock / reboot issue that is fixed by the above. They all run very smooth. I am not an aosp guy no matter how hard I try, but that's another post for another time.
EDIT:
1. virus B4 alpha 1 will not give you working video chat with google talk no matter what you do. his B3 will, after flashing lithid's g-apps package.
2. MikG is a little more complete (has working EPST i.e. ## codes, working sprint voicemail). I am still drawn to Virus B3 due to g-talk video chat, as well as more sense 3.0 elements (messaging, for example).

tatnai said:
I've used the stock leaked gb with sense 1.0, Mikhail (gb with sense 2.1) beta 2 to rc1, and viruses gingersense b3 and currently b4 alpha 1. Each I've used for at least a day. I also ran cm7 nightly 63 for a bit in there.
If you have a nova screen, run the GPS fix (##gpsclrx#), and use prl 1.77, all of these Tom's are pretty stable. The only reason I left mikG was for video on Google talk which I could not get working on mikg for the life of me. Also I could not get the GPS fix to run on viruses b4, but as long as you run it on another gb sense 2.1 rom first, so my GPS is working fine. No 4g on the sense 2.1 ports. Viruses sense 3.0 port is about to have a beta released, once that is stab it will be the sense rom to end all sense roms as it has 4g working already. With the work virus does it'll be a stable daily driver within a week or two. It will still have the nova screen problem I believe, as I think it uses the leaked Evo gb kernel.
For now I think if you have an Epson screen you can't go wrong with mikg rc1. If you gotta try Google talk with voice step it up to viruses gingersense beta 4. If you need 4g, stick with fresh or calculin's versions of the leaked gb with sense 1.0. Personally though I won't go back to sense 1.0 now that I'm using 2.1 for over a week. Lastly if you have a nova screen, there are some market brightness apps that work (juice defender, among others, has been mentioned) so you could still give it a shot.
With a full wipe I have had no stability issues besides the GPS lock / reboot issue that is fixed by the above. They all run very smooth. I am not an aosp guy no matter how hard I try, but that's another post for another time.
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tatnai, good info. Thanks for sharing.

DowntownRDB said:
tatnai, good info. Thanks for sharing.
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No problem. One last thing, battery life (ignoring the brightness issue with the nova screen which really kills the battery) is equivalent on this leaked gb kernel, if not a tad better, than with HTC kernel 15 and 17. Battery charging time is significantly faster, though, which is quite nice. The only other people with bad battery life are those who stick with prl 1.90, which causes wakelocks in many many roms.
Happy flashing. Just nandroid and flash, you can always go back.

ok so a few edits (also edited my original post).
1. virus B4 alpha 1 will not give you working video chat with google talk no matter what you do. his B3 will, after flashing lithid's g-apps package.
2. MikG is a little more complete (has working EPST, working sprint voicemail). I am still drawn to Virus B3 due to g-talk video chat, as well as more sense 3.0 elements (messaging, for example).
in the end, pick your posing, always nandroid, and just keep flashing.

One i used was
Tpmartinppc gingersense
Was stable
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Been running Vius GingerSense B3 for a week or so. It has been pretty stable amd smooth. You have to partion the sd card though
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MIkG or Virus B3 right now for Sense 2.x
Oh on B3 (or any of Virus's that incorporate sense 3.x) you will probably want to partition the SD card per the OP. The sense 3.0 files take up a LOT of spce and he has moved some of the system fies and enabled app2sd to free up internal space for apps. In that respect MikG and TMartin are easier since they don't have the sense 3.0 elements and take up less phone memory
You can get the 3.0 lock screen (no widgets) on most GB 2.x roms (there is a thread)
TMartins cleanup of the Evo GB leak is good. I keep a backup of that so I can update PRI and profiles (its a sprint ROM the others are not). Also has 4G if you need or use that.
Most likely you will need to downgrade the PRL as it caused wakelock. Not sure why. I assume is a kernel issue like the screen brightnss that will hopefully get ironed out. Remeber it is a leaked (i.e. not 100% done) kernel we GB people are working off of.
Nadroid and play. Find what your phone likes.
Good luck

drgonzo712 said:
Been running Vius GingerSense B3 for a week or so. It has been pretty stable amd smooth. You have to partion the sd card though
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Still not sure how people get this to work. Maybe I'm missing something, though. Google Voice doesn't close - it tries to set up, then force closes. My contacts aren't working - the People app opens, only shows me (and any recent calls), and if I try to poke around in it, it force closes. Very frustrating.

DrRyder said:
People being stuck at 100% brightness isn't perfectly stable. Derp.
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Functionality and Stability of an operating system are two very different things, man. You can have an OS that is full of functioning features, but crashes every day. You can have an OS where only 3G works but 4G doesn't, but it can be stable and run for years without a crash. See?
But then again, we're just arguing semantics at this point, so we can just agree to disagree, no ill will meant.

Benefits of CyanogenMod

I was wondering if someone could lay out a few of the benefits of flashing to Cyanogen versus stock (rooted). I have a lot on my phone and just wanted to see if it would be worth the time to switch and get everything setup again.
I looked around and didn't see any nice list of features/benefits that would be gained with Cyanogen.
I do love the fact that it is open source and community supported. That's fantastic.
Hope this isn't flamebait...

Stable (unless you're on a nightly)
Great codec support
Bluetooth profiles (HID being a top add)
It's the latest Android version in all its un-bloated glory
Update frequency is high
I'm sure I'm forgetting other things but its not limited to that.
I'm a Sense fan myself but CyanogenMod is worth the install. You owe it to yourself to check it out.

http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/19985-cm7-v-sense-what-you-lose-vs-what-you-gain/

I ran CM7 for about a month and now am running the stock rooted OTA Gingerbread. It may just be ADW launcher but CM 7 is slow and laggy compared to stock gingersense. I like others had major issues with getting GPS stable and working. I do miss some of the mods but over all i'm happier on a sense based rom.

For me battery life. Ive tried every sense rom there is and im yet to find one with better battery life. And for me its not anywhere near slow or laggy. I dont really see myself ever going back to a sense rom, definitely not the one Sprint just pushed out.

wasnt said:
I was wondering if someone could lay out a few of the benefits of flashing to Cyanogen versus stock (rooted). I have a lot on my phone and just wanted to see if it would be worth the time to switch and get everything setup again.
I looked around and didn't see any nice list of features/benefits that would be gained with Cyanogen.
I do love the fact that it is open source and community supported. That's fantastic.
Hope this isn't flamebait...
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Honestly, check it out for yourself. You don't need to lose anything, nandroid backup your current setup and install CM7. You can play around with it for a while and see if it's for you and if not you can just restore your backup. Many people on here have 2 or 3 roms backed up and switch between them. My suggestion would be to read all the links in my sig, they should answer any questions you might have.

i ran it so i could connect my wii remote and play snes9x...there is something sense cant do!!!

netflix, googletalk video chat. way better keyboard. i miss a couple things about sense so i just bought launcher pro and use that for my facebook and agenda widgets. other than that sense roms are garbage to me. CM7 is great and once all the stupid little bugs get worked out it's going to be awesome.
i'd suggest flashing the roms with armon 2.3 recovery and sticking to the stable versions of cm7. i just had to start from scratch cause a nightly a while back through my phone for a loop.
give the latest stable a shot for a week and i bet you really like it.

DualSportDad said:
netflix, googletalk video chat. way better keyboard. i miss a couple things about sense so i just bought launcher pro and use that for my facebook and agenda widgets. other than that sense roms are garbage to me. CM7 is great and once all the stupid little bugs get worked out it's going to be awesome.
i'd suggest flashing the roms with armon 2.3 recovery and sticking to the stable versions of cm7. i just had to start from scratch cause a nightly a while back through my phone for a loop.
give the latest stable a shot for a week and i bet you really like it.
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How do you fully enable gtalk video? I can see people but people can't see me.
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Aosp. That's why I like it.

* CyanogenMod (advanced) settings. You can tweak it to perform just how you like it.
* Screen on/off animations
* Color rendering (to reduce screen power use)
* Regular updates
* Gingerbread well before sense roms. Even running 2.3.4 like me
* Developments are quickly included (ex: sd card read ahead value to increase read speed)
Just do a backup of your current system, flash cyanogen, play around and if you don't like it, just restore back to your original.

I was on CM7 for the past month and @ first I was in love.
Benefits:
Advanced bluetooth support (Wimote for my emulators)
Full Screen mirroring HDMI (Once again for emulators)
Speed increase (This didn't last long)
On/Off screen animations (Impressed the friends and relatives)
Cool Wallpapers
But, after awhile the bugs really started to get annoying
Negatives (YMMV)
Bugs (From random FC's, gmail stop syncing for no reason, wimax not wanting to stop without a restart plus other annoying stuff.
Speed (Eventually CM7 started to move slowly to a point where it felt like a chore to deal with my phone)
Well, Friday was the last draw when my sister's texts were not showing up on my phone. So, I flashed the new Sprint GB update and I am in love with my phone all over again. Even with the bloatware my phone is running silky smooth and I am experiencing no bugs. Plus for some reason my battery life has improved too. I was using Tiamat with SBC on CM7. Battery life become horrendous on CM7 and yes I did calibrate my battery.
When it's all said and done YMMV. The best way to find out is to NANDROID Backup and flash the rom yourself. You might be greeted to a whole new world of flashing greatness.

LexLuger82 said:
How do you fully enable gtalk video? I can see people but people can't see me.
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Lots of threads out there. I just followed the directions. I think now if you just flash the newest version of gapps and choose Google talk to install it'll install a properly working version. I'd read up on it tho.

Tubes6al4v said:
* CyanogenMod (advanced) settings. You can tweak it to perform just how you like it.
* Screen on/off animations
* Color rendering (to reduce screen power use)
* Regular updates
* Gingerbread well before sense roms. Even running 2.3.4 like me
* Developments are quickly included (ex: sd card read ahead value to increase read speed)
Just do a backup of your current system, flash cyanogen, play around and if you don't like it, just restore back to your original.
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That sums it up.
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I had cm7 and it got worse as time went on so I switched to decks 1.2v(based off cm7) much better and using latest tiamat sbc kernel...battery life is outstanding! And that's w out viperbiy scripts!
Midget tossing is a habit...2010 Midwest champion...hw 001

cdszoke said:
gmail stop syncing for no reason
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I've had this happen anytime I loaded something new, I've found that it can be fixed by clearing the Gmail cached and data and making it completely reload.

cdszoke said:
I was on CM7 for the past month and @ first I was in love.
Benefits:
Advanced bluetooth support (Wimote for my emulators)
Full Screen mirroring HDMI (Once again for emulators)
Speed increase (This didn't last long)
On/Off screen animations (Impressed the friends and relatives)
Cool Wallpapers
But, after awhile the bugs really started to get annoying
Negatives (YMMV)
Bugs (From random FC's, gmail stop syncing for no reason, wimax not wanting to stop without a restart plus other annoying stuff.
Speed (Eventually CM7 started to move slowly to a point where it felt like a chore to deal with my phone)
Well, Friday was the last draw when my sister's texts were not showing up on my phone. So, I flashed the new Sprint GB update and I am in love with my phone all over again. Even with the bloatware my phone is running silky smooth and I am experiencing no bugs. Plus for some reason my battery life has improved too. I was using Tiamat with SBC on CM7. Battery life become horrendous on CM7 and yes I did calibrate my battery.
When it's all said and done YMMV. The best way to find out is to NANDROID Backup and flash the rom yourself. You might be greeted to a whole new world of flashing greatness.
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Rom manager fix permissions every once in awhile fixes things

Battery Life Is AWESOME and stable

Try decks its a fast and smooth version of cm7 w tiamat 4.0.5. & viperboy scripts great battery life and apply darkhorse theme aka" tha jump off!"
Midget tossing is a habit...2010 Midwest champion...hw 001

Nice that someone actually weighs the pro's and cons as op obviously needed. There is a lot of hating going on here at XDA, All devs should support each other, not bash each other. I know I Haven't been a member on here long, but flashing roms has been a hobby for a while, I just wasn't a full blown flashaholic. Anyway, there are a lot of roms to choose from and though I develop my own, I still flash everyone elses to enjoy the experience, and learn. Everyone has the right to believe what they will, but there is a line between a thought, and posting. If some of these people where two feet away from each other, there wouldn't be all of this garbage talk. I thought XDA was all about exactly that, giving the people a choice as to what software to run, helpful guides and tips, a community, or actually a culture, if you will. Anyway, sorry.....Flash Away....

[Q] Best Rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE?

I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.

crazykas said:
I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.
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it's impossible for something to be perfect and without having a single issue. but the rom with the least issues in my opinion would be Virtuous Unity, a great rom developed by the hardworking Virtuous team. that rom is the closest you can get to perfect. try it.
website: http://www.virtuousrom.com/
thread is in the mytouch 4g development section.

crazykas said:
I'm currently on Official Gingerbread update.I would like to feel root power of my Glacier.But I'm afraid of issues of Roms.Please suggest me the best rom for MT4G WITHOUT A SINGLE ISSUE.
Thanks.
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What is it that you are wanting out of a rom? Different people like different things, and while some like vu (myself included), others want a more vanilla Android experience. Which would point closer to cm.
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Depends on your preference. I like sense and the one nearest to perfect for me is Virtuous Unity. Like saranhai said nothing is perfect nothing will be. The stock rom that comes with mytouch is not perfect at all. Some roms have a tad little bit of lag some just a little bit more. Something about every rom is different. Like eqjunkie829 said. You could want sense like me, him and alotof other people. Or you can go with a more aosp/vanilla rom.

How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?

jon_htc said:
How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?
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no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.

saranhai said:
no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.
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agree, mysense its garbage.
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saranhai said:
no offense or anything, but the stock espresso sense UI sucks.
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No offense or anything but im trying to help the guy rathar than say. "depends" "its all about preference" or "use the search button"
By you saying it sucks is too general. What does "suck" mean?
His answers will allow us to pinpoint him in the right direction. Other wise I might as well copy and paste all the links i saved.

jon_htc said:
No offense or anything but im trying to help the guy rathar than say. "depends" "its all about preference" or "use the search button"
By you saying it sucks is too general. What does "suck" mean?
His answers will allow us to pinpoint him in the right direction. Other wise I might as well copy and paste all the links i saved.
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well, suck as in crappy UI, terrible lag, battery draining etc.
yes, i know you're trying to help him, i'm just saying, that the stock UI is really bad.

jon_htc said:
How long have you had your phone for?
What do you not like about your phone?
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I bought this 3 months ago.I like a battery saving Rom.I know there are faster Roms,but current speed (official GB update)doesn't feel bad for me.Also, there is a problem of camera quality of this GB update.

Easy. CM7.
Nothing is more stable and more battery efficient than CM7.
Can't go wrong.

Hmmmm, without a single issue?
I don't think such an animal exists in our modern world...
From my experience, using the stock sense that came with the phone had by far far far more issues than cm6, 7 and 7.1- fc almost every phone conversation followed by signal loss, flaky wifi, lots of problems with the (nice) automatic profile switching etc.
So whatever you install, you're probably going to be "issuewise" much better than stock. Perhaps you'll have to sweat a little more to make it look as neat as sense, though.
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MIUI. I got tired of sense roms, that drains battery a lot and makes phone lag after some use.
MIUI is fast, stupid fast actually, and i'm @ 1 GHz CPU. Super customizable , good for battery save.
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mackster248 said:
Easy. CM7.
Nothing is more stable and more battery efficient than CM7.
+1
Can't go wrong.
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crazykas said:
I bought this 3 months ago.I like a battery saving Rom.I know there are faster Roms,but current speed (official GB update)doesn't feel bad for me.Also, there is a problem of camera quality of this GB update.
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Try Cyanogen mod (CM7). Like a few suggested!
All my cam apps work great on the stable version.
Battery life is probably the best of all the ROMs because of its simplicity.
This ROM is all about functionality
Although I use MIUI. Which also has great battery life (1day 6hrs) it has its quirks with some camera apps. I just wanted a sleeker user interface
I use a simple cam app anyways and I love the customization. My main goal for rom was battery life, & speed ( i was on 2.2 and it was very laggy out of the box) I just got my phone 2 months ago.
My last smart phone was an htc fuze lol and my previous phone was a simple nokia bar phone.
So I was totally oblivious to rooting prior to 2 months ago.

cyanogen
well I'm using cyanogen 7 stable version and I don't have any issue

running TDJ 2.2.0 just to switch things up a little bit
10+ hours and just now hitting 50%, so far so good
TDJ's port of that rom works wonders

Virtuous Unity for me, never one single issue, great performance, features, speed, battery life.

tydgilyard said:
Depends on your preference. I like sense and the one nearest to perfect for me is Virtuous Unity. Like saranhai said nothing is perfect nothing will be. The stock rom that comes with mytouch is not perfect at all. Some roms have a tad little bit of lag some just a little bit more. Something about every rom is different. Like eqjunkie829 said. You could want sense like me, him and alotof other people. Or you can go with a more aosp/vanilla rom.
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Virtuous unity was ok, not perfect by any means. It was a heavy rom, some times leggy and had some random FC's I never got in other roms. For a more stock sense/espresso hybrid (with out the stupid blocky apps), royal glacier has to be the most stable rom I have tried. I am currently running Faux's nexus rom and I love it so far, no issues. So if your into AOSP stuff, I would look into that.

Faux nexus 1.3.1
So I have been using faux's nexus 1.3.1 ROM for about a week now, I calibrated the battery right after I flashed it using the battery calibration app, and the battery life is amazing. It lasted 1 day 5 hours according to my battery stats right after I calibrated. Also it has been one of the most stable ROMs I have used besides royalglacier. No FC's or random reboots. One thing I have learned, which may be a total noob thing but whatever, is if you are going from sense to AOSP, you cannot restore any data after you flash your rom. You have to use titanium backup or the mybackup pro app to get your apps, SMS, call logs and the likes back. It might be common sense but i never knew that and it kept me away from aosp roms for a long time!

[POLL] Do you think ics is a failure??

I just want to share my opinion based on some reading.
Till now Samsung was not able to release bug free ICS ROM, despite the 6 months of working.
Also, I am noticing several complaints in both forums the nexus s and galaxy nexus.
ICS has proved to be slow compared to gingerbread, also it seems to be more battery consuming.
For now I am sticking to GB, maybe we should wait till Google releases the 4.0.4 update, even though I am not so positive.
Google its your job now.
So what do you think??

Dude!! HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER ROCKS?
4.0.4 has already been released and ics Is contrary to all the points you brought out
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Samsung's ICS is bug free, but it is slower than GB and consumes more battery (as you said)... That is why I am using GB...

Neo said:
Dude under which rocks have you been living?
4.0.4 has already been released and ics Is contrary to all the points you brought out
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4.0.4 was released only for nexus s and galaxy nexus, still there are plenty of bugs to be cured. BTW, have you read about connection problems in galaxy nexus due to the 4.0.4 update.

no, ICS is not a failure.
try it yourself and you'll get what i mean.
You are judging and making conclusions based on the complaints by the minorities, and that just doesn't make sense to me...
Look at the majority who are willing to try out the awesomeness of ICS custom roms, look at the number of views of ICS rom threads in this forum, look at the positive, encouraging comments people write to the devs. All these combined should carry some gravitas, right?
Oh yeah, btw, 4.0.4 is already out, take a look at cyanogen 9. It's just that Samsung is not currently implementing this update into the stock roms.

Unfortunately Samsung implementation of ics is an epic failure. Slow and horrible. But that's Samsung and its pretty early days (3months!?)
Plenty of custom ics roms (cm9 specifically) that prove what ics can do when freed from touchwiz Samsung tweaked rubbish.
4.04 been out a while. Try a custom rom you won't go back
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no, ICS is not a failure.
try it yourself and you'll get what i mean.
You are judging and making conclusions based on the complaints by the minorities, and that just doesn't make sense to me...
Look at the majority who are willing to try out the awesomeness of ICS custom roms, look at the number of views of ICS rom threads in this forum, look at the positive, encouraging comments people write to the devs. All these combined should carry some gravitas, right?
Oh yeah, btw, 4.0.4 is already out, take a look at cyanogen 9. It's just that Samsung is not currently implementing this update into the stock roms.
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Don't forget that we payed $700 for Samsung, Samsung is the one responsible for giving us updates. Also, xda devs are only willing to improve and make our experience richer.

pahardie said:
Unfortunately Samsung implementation of ics is an epic failure. Slow and horrible. But that's Samsung and its pretty early days (3months!?)
Plenty of custom ics roms (cm9 specifically) that prove what ics can do when freed from touchwiz Samsung tweaked rubbish.
4.04 been out a while. Try a custom rom you won't go back
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CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...

Dark Emotion said:
CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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Samsung's ICS is bug free, but it is slower than GB and consumes more battery (as you said)... That is why I am using GB...
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Hm! Don't know what is going on with your device but here it's nowhere near slow, and battery? Well it consumes same amount as in GB, no way more.
This ICS and impleneted HW acceleration and other stuffs kept me to stick with Android for little while longer actually, just when i was thinking about switching back to iOS it came and successfully purchased me, for some time the least.
And Samsung had put/implemented ICS exactly the way they wanted to be. Some few peoples opinion and nagging won't care them the bit, nor they should be bothered about it.
Besides, what's the point of this thread

Dark Emotion said:
CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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Not getting terrible battery life here. Its same as stock really. Try siyah see if that helps you out or do a full wipe etc etc
To the op
Samsungs ics roms are late and hide most benefits of ics which is why I dislike them
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And screen-on time is...?
P.S. I didn't say that CM9 (or any other ICS) has terrible battery life, I just said that it is not as good as GB... And I always do a full wipe when flashing ROMs

Dark Emotion said:
And screen-on time is...?
P.S. I didn't say that CM9 (or any other ICS) has terrible battery life, I just said that it is not as good as GB... And I always do a full wipe when flashing ROMs
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I love ICS, run now on LUX LP4 and loving it.
Always do a full wipe and you have no problems
ICS is absolutely no failure in my opinion

I have installed CM9 + siyah 3.0
I have very good battery life (yeah sligtly less then gb, but i think the cause is that everithing is beta) but i have increased 10 times the responsiveness of my phone.. Everithing is better with ics..
ICS definitely no failure

I don't share the views on speed or battery life - in my view there is little tangible difference on my SGS2 - if anything I would say speed is a little better. Battery life depends on so many variables that it's almost impossible to be objective.
In terms of the update itself, it is definitely an improvement but still also a slight disappointment. In evolutionary terms we have crawled out of the primordial soup and lost the fins but we are still grooming each other looking for scurf and wondering where the smell comes from when we poke our fingers up our bottoms. The quest for fire remains a distant dream...
I can't vote in the poll therefore because there needs to be a middle option.

ICS is not a failure, actually it is a good path for android to travel. What let us down is the distribution method chosen by the oem and even by google itself. The purpose of bringing ics is not even satisfied by all the smartphones which got ics updates.

ICS is good.
Implementation of samsung/sony/htc is not good.

My $0.02, based on testing, and total indifference to "oo-Samsung-sux-lolz-I-demand-newest-FW-yesterday-Samsung-owes-me-I-paid-so-much-CM9-rox".
Failure? No. But not cool, awesome, rocking nor deserving of some of the fanboy praise posted here, in my opinion.
I've tried many, many stock and custom ICS, AOKP and CM9, every kernel and every combination (36 flashes since 30th March, to be precise). Not a single combination has been smoother or qucker than my daily driver or my next two preferences - krinyo's SlimROM, rohit's GB MIUI and Insanity build 57.
Battery life isn't a dealbreaker for me, lag is. I don't have bloatware, don't use mail, am not on Twitter or Facebook, haven't had TW launcher on my phone for 9 months. Even stripped down like this, my GB-based ROMs outperform everything else. And they're a hell of a lot more stable too.
As always, each to their own. But I haven't found any reason to leave GB after all this testing. Certainly no problem in refuting the "once you've tried 4.0.4 you'll never go back" spiel, which is lazy generalization based on nothing.
Unlike many, I wasn't wetting myself in anticipation of ICS, hence haven't needed to change my pants.
And the "poll" is ridiculous, pointless and useless, and not even a poll - there is middle ground.

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WooW, that is not bad at all mate, for me i've never get over 3 hours screen on time before
i might test cm9 out
can i also ask what kernel are u using?

ICS Just doesnt cut it.

Ive recently downgraded back to CM7 GB. ICS just has too many bugs and it seems im the only one who seems to think its "slow" or jerky at times. I encourage you if you just want your phone to work and be as fast as it can be to go back to CM7. It seems everyone keeps saying ICS is ultra fast and ultra smooth. In my experiences, ICS just wasnt made for the SGS1, the hardware just isnt powerful enough, heck even the Galaxy Nexus looked a tad slow on ICS compared to how fast it is on JB.
I dont think CM10 will be that much different from CM9. Im looking into getting an S3 when they drop the price a little bit, (£500!!!! I can get a decent laptop for that price)

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I honestly disagree. I do feel Slim ICS is as fast, as any other 2.3 rom i've tried, with the added bonus of slightly improved responsiveness. This is my personal experience, of course.
And i also think it's not about the hardware. If it was, the iphone wouldn't be such a success. But this is a loaded statement and not really worth going over. I'm just glad everyone has a favourite flavour they can use

Ya really think dat ugly'n'slow CM7 is better dan ICS?

There are trillions of possible combinations of apps and settings, did you do a clean install (wipe everything)?
A clean ICS beats a clean 2.3 ROM.

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I honestly disagree. I do feel Slim ICS is as fast, as any other 2.3 rom i've tried, with the added bonus of slightly improved responsiveness. This is my personal experience, of course.
And i also think it's not about the hardware. If it was, the iphone wouldn't be such a success. But this is a loaded statement and not really worth going over. I'm just glad everyone has a favourite flavour they can use
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Yeah its definitely useable. but maybe its just me, I feel like sometimes it will run flawless then sometimes it will feel laggy and slow, regarding iOS, its alot better coded than Android (im going to get hate for taht, but its true, you can run obsolete processors with iOS and still get it to work flawlesly since its so closely ccontrolled and optimised) Its the same with Windows Phone 7. If theres anyone who hasnt tried using Wp7, I encourage you to do so, my next phone will hopefully be the SGS3, but with every single Android phone regardless of specs, sometimes theres a delay with some things, i.e. the gallery. Its not so much lag anymore, just a delay between pressing the app icon and it actually loading. On windows phone, you press the app, BOOM, instantly its there.But JellyBean and "project Butter" is a step in the right direction. (And it looks alot cooler)

is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
Thanks!

trexon said:
is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
Thanks!
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I used it and it's nice, especially the Music app .

dark_knight35 said:
I used it and it's nice, especially the Music app .
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and you have moved to ics?
what caused thay you have moved from MIUI to other rom?

You will come back in 6 hours or less.
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trexon said:
and you have moved to ics?
what caused thay you have moved from MIUI to other rom?
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MIUI v4 is ICS . I moved to test JB.

dark_knight35 said:
MIUI v4 is ICS . I moved to test JB.
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I got back to gingerbread although I liked the neat GUI of ICS and tested almost every variant of it except Slim ICS because it lacked support for Arabic based languages (my native language is Pashto). Another thing for me was the lack of feature of copying contacts to SIM which is crucial for me. Anyway I'm waiting if someone could include that feature, then certainly I will get back to ICS or JB.

ICS is good but the SGS just doesn't get the most of it, you can say what you want but if you think you're getting the full ICS experience on this phone you are sadly mistaken..
Honestly I don't blame the OP downgrading to GB, the sgs is what 2-3 years old now? If you want to run the latest software it might pay to start thinking about upgrading.
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MrIwik said:
ICS is good but the SGS just doesn't get the most of it, you can say what you want but if you think you're getting the full ICS experience on this phone you are sadly mistaken..
Honestly I don't blame the OP downgrading to GB, the sgs is what 2-3 years old now? If you want to run the latest software it might pay to start thinking about upgrading.
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For me,
Slim ICS>Froyo 2.2.1 (especially stock ZSJPK)>Any Gingerbread rom
Why? The answer is ram. The notion of free ram being wasted ram is just silly. When ram is full, the phone has to constantly close and reopen background processes, causing a decrease in smoothness.
That's why Froyo 2.2.1 was the best, because it had the most least ram consumption. However, slim ICS had that ridiculously big ram configuration, which put it on par with 2.2.1. But it ranks higher because it is ICS and has more features.

Hmm i downgraded to froyo a while ago and found it heaps laggier than ICS , JB is much better than ICS imo now.
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What a strange thread. I've been on a load of different ICS Roms, I've tried almost all of them and I've found 90% of them faster than stock Gingerbread/Froyo.
Right now I've been on CM10 Alpha (JB) for two days and my SGS feels like a new phone again. It's not perfect and 100% reliable, but it's pretty good for an alpha build.

im sorry. what is gingerbread/froyo? never heard of that.
it depends on personal preference to be honest.

trexon said:
is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
Thanks!
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I used tot Love MIUI but thats only because Android didnt look that good before ics.
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disclaimernotice said:
For me,
Slim ICS>Froyo 2.2.1 (especially stock ZSJPK)>Any Gingerbread rom
Why? The answer is ram. The notion of free ram being wasted ram is just silly. When ram is full, the phone has to constantly close and reopen background processes, causing a decrease in smoothness.
That's why Froyo 2.2.1 was the best, because it had the most least ram consumption. However, slim ICS had that ridiculously big ram configuration, which put it on par with 2.2.1. But it ranks higher because it is ICS and has more features.
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Im not a developer, but the ram being full is not always bad. It just depends on how the Os uses it. I agree if you are constantly clearing and caching the ram as u open apps, you will lose smoothness but, for instance, my version of nix pre caches the majority of ram in advance for various applications to use. In essence insuring there is enough ram available for gui apps. Obviously if you are overall limited on ram though it will slow things down.
I have never felt like the ics ports were sluggish, just bit battery heavy, and they seem to run hot. That being said GB is the best compromise for me. Plus there is so much more hacking done for GB.
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