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Fastest rom

Long time XDA reader, first time poster...
I like speed and I am not a huge fan of eye candy...Who can recomend a rom that fits the bill? I did check out the Wiki but it seems to be out of date after checking rom threads.
EViO 1.3.1 seems to be the one so far.

Chrisv006 said:
Long time XDA reader, first time poster...
I like speed and I am not a huge fan of eye candy...Who can recomend a rom that fits the bill? I did check out the Wiki but it seems to be out of date after checking rom threads.
EViO 1.3.1 seems to be the one so far.
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For simplicity and speed ... hard to beat pure aosp ... Cyanogen Mod 6.

Then flash the snap kernel and you'll have the fastest rom.

I've been using cm6 for about a week and it's a great rom. I would be happier with better battery life, but oh well. It still lasts me all day and then some.
It's a real snappy rom too. I haven't noticed any lag at all since I've installed it. I'm also using one of King's kernels as well.
I've tested some others over the course of the week, and right away I noticed sluggishness in those other roms. I always end up flashing back to CM6 within an hour.
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wmdunn said:
For simplicity and speed ... hard to beat pure aosp ... Cyanogen Mod 6.
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CM6 for the win
CM6 with some tweaks (see below) screams and gets pretty good battery life to boot with the right kernel. Also make sure that you have no corrupt/unsupported media files on your card as this causes "Media Server" service to constantly attempt to index/access the offending file.
My tweaks so far:
Market only (all other "gapps" not installed)
Standalone calander app that doesn't sync to anything (using AnCal at the moment)
Lightweight launcher (using Zeam at the moment)
2D gallery (3D gallery removed)
No widgets
Plain/small single color wallpaper

Krynj said:
I've been using cm6 for about a week and it's a great rom. I would be happier with better battery life, but oh well. It still lasts me all day and then some.
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CM6 + Snap 7.6 & Turbo = "fastest" ROM, CM6 + Snap 7.5 = longest lasting ROM.

this new nightly and its kernel is doing some good work. that thing is fast as nuts and battery is good, better than king's CFS #1 kernel...because I dont have to use setcpu. And i've never noticed a difference, speedwise, with snap 7.6 and turbo. all seems the same to me
but if it does make a difference..then that superevo rom with snap 7.6 turbo should be insane. since apparently it scored like 2700+ with Quadrant...not saying quadrant means much, but a 2700+ definitely doesnt mean nothin

Only tried a handful of roms, but I've been very happy with Fresh 3.1, HTC's newest kernel; no task killer, setcpu, cpuanything, battery savers, ect. - Never gets slow on me and lasts 12+ hours, usually.

Myn's new ROM is extremely fast as well, plus it has 4G which means it is potentially 4X as fast as CM6 if you're in a 4G area like me and you use network intensive apps/browsing/downloading a lot. I'm running King's#9 with it as well. I switch between CM6 (for running Ubuntu/network bridging), and Myn's (when I want really fast eye-candy and I need that 300MB file NOW)

Just like everyone else is saying go with CM6 for a non-sense rom. If you want sense then try out Ava's new V9 rom. It's super smooth and has everything working like hdmi, 4g, etc.

daemonopus said:
Myn's new ROM is extremely fast as well, plus it has 4G which means it is potentially 4X as fast as CM6 if you're in a 4G area like me and you use network intensive apps/browsing/downloading a lot. I'm running King's#9 with it as well. I switch between CM6 (for running Ubuntu/network bridging), and Myn's (when I want really fast eye-candy and I need that 300MB file NOW)
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I came from CM6 and absolutely love Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo. Super fast and smooth. I might switch back when CM6 gets 4G working (as SF now has 4G). 8.82down and .97 up btw.

Myn's warm, burnt droid from netarchy and fresh from flipz(3.3) have been good for me.
Myn has most eye candy, but still fast.
Fresh works great, as well, fast and stable.
Burnt droid was good as well, all of these run sense

So I'm guessing this is a noob question, but a couple of you mentioned using Snap 7.6 turbo with roms other than cm6...
Umm, how?
I can't seem to make it work (always says "install a snap kernel") with anything else and I can't seem to find directions on how to do so.
I'd like to try Warm twopointtwo with snapturbo - darned if I can make it work.

abn.geek said:
I'd like to try Warm twopointtwo with snapturbo - darned if I can make it work.
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TwoPointTwo is Sense based so AOSP kernels (snap, king's AOSP) will not work.

Lokifish said:
TwoPointTwo is Sense based so AOSP kernels (snap, king's AOSP) will not work.
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Ah, so it's as I suspected - noob question .
My first week with an Android phone (recovering iPhone junkie). So much to learn, so few hours in a day.

daemonopus said:
Myn's new ROM is extremely fast as well, plus it has 4G which means it is potentially 4X as fast as CM6 if you're in a 4G area like me and you use network intensive apps/browsing/downloading a lot. I'm running King's#9 with it as well. I switch between CM6 (for running Ubuntu/network bridging), and Myn's (when I want really fast eye-candy and I need that 300MB file NOW)
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I agree completely with you...
Myn for Speed and eye candy
CM6 for all out performance...

Chrisv006 said:
Long time XDA reader, first time poster...
I like speed and I am not a huge fan of eye candy...Who can recomend a rom that fits the bill? I did check out the Wiki but it seems to be out of date after checking rom threads.
EViO 1.3.1 seems to be the one so far.
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EViO 1.3.1 FTW.. with kings kernal and this ROM I get great performance and sense... and doesn't 4G not work with CM6???
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VaelPak
I have pockets of 4G coverage near me and I do connect on occasion so CM6 is out of the question for me.
I've been very happy with VaelPak 2.2 and the stock HTC 11 kernel. It has most of sense stripped out but some components are still there if you like. After playing with a few ROMs, I realized that I actually like the HTC dialer, contacts, and MMS apps. For most stuff you get the option of using AOSP or HTC/Sense components, and the developer is very active and very responsive, addressing any issues. Battery life is good, lasting a full day with moderate usage (up to 18 hours), and performance is great considering all the Launcher Pro eye candy.
It's not completely stripped down yielding the best speed, however I think it's a perfect balance between barebones AOSP and stock Sense (with sprint junk).

try superEVO rom its awesome
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I don't get why anyone wants to have a 3G only ROM on a 4G capable phone. Furthermore why the heck would anyone make a ROM for a 4G phone that doesn't connect to 4G before releasing. LOL
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Yay .32 source codes are out

HTC has just released our source codes
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What ramifications will result?

Fretless said:
What ramifications will result?
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New custom kernels based off the stock .32.17 kernel.

I can only imagine
Im just praying yo the father above for a sweet asop kernel with all the latest fix-ins.
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ozzman54 said:
New custom kernels based off the stock .32.17 kernel.
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Custom kernels! More things i can do to my phone. My wife will be so happy...

Ziggy & King's kernels are already patched up to 2.6.32.25 and behave dramatically better than the .17 kernel. Unlike ROMs where the source code is critical to make any customization, kernels can be patched up higher without requiring HTC's source code....
So unless some functionality gets screwed up like tethering which can now be repaired by looking at HTC's 2.6.32.17 source code or something like that I am not sure why this is such big news?

khanam said:
Ziggy & King's kernels are already patched up to 2.6.32.25 and behave dramatically better than the .17 kernel. Unlike ROMs where the source code is critical to make any customization, kernels can be patched up higher without requiring HTC's source code....
So unless some functionality gets screwed up like tethering which can now be repaired by looking at HTC's 2.6.32.17 source code or something like that I am not sure why this is such big news?
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its big news because HTC tends to be pretty douchy with their code. its high time they have it released IMO

khanam said:
Ziggy & King's kernels are already patched up to 2.6.32.25 and behave dramatically better than the .17 kernel. Unlike ROMs where the source code is critical to make any customization, kernels can be patched up higher without requiring HTC's source code....
So unless some functionality gets screwed up like tethering which can now be repaired by looking at HTC's 2.6.32.17 source code or something like that I am not sure why this is such big news?
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its news because i hate sense roms
and its always good new when the maker of your phone releases their source

What is the significance of "patching up"?
I recently started using the .17 kernel and things are much better than before (battery/charging-wise). Would These patched up kernels have the same benefits recently introduced? or are they just souped up .15 kernels with a different name?
I guess I am asking does the name (kernel version) really mean anything?
khanam said:
Ziggy & King's kernels are already patched up to 2.6.32.25 and behave dramatically better than the .17 kernel. Unlike ROMs where the source code is critical to make any customization, kernels can be patched up higher without requiring HTC's source code....
So unless some functionality gets screwed up like tethering which can now be repaired by looking at HTC's 2.6.32.17 source code or something like that I am not sure why this is such big news?
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Pkmn760 said:
What is the significance of "patching up"?
I recently started using the .17 kernel and things are much better than before (battery/charging-wise). Would These patched up kernels have the same benefits recently introduced? or are they just souped up .15 kernels with a different name?
I guess I am asking does the name (kernel version) really mean anything?
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I have used ziggy's .25 kernel. My subjective opinion is it is better than the versions htc puts out. If htc's version of the kernel was better I guess their rom would also be better than the roms cooked by the devs here, now wouldn't it?
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khanam said:
I have used ziggy's .25 kernel. My subjective opinion is it is better than the versions htc puts out. If htc's version of the kernel was better I guess their rom would also be better than the roms cooked by the devs here, now wouldn't it?
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Have you tried the .17? I've tried both and IMHO it smokes the "patched up" kernels in every way. Just saying
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KKellett said:
Have you tried the .17? I've tried both and IMHO it smokes the "patched up" kernels in every way. Just saying
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Agreed...I've yet to try any "patched up" custom kernels that the fast charging actually worked well on. It gets a little faster, but in the stock .17 it cuts charge times by more than half. So there must be something in the source that the cooks didn't know about yet.

I just cant wait for this kernel to be undervolted a bit and overclocked abit

KKellett said:
Have you tried the .17? I've tried both and IMHO it smokes the "patched up" kernels in every way. Just saying
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I tried both on the Desire Z port with Sense 2.5 (left vintage sense behind a few weeks ago and never looked back) and the performance difference is extremely skewed in the 1114 Ziggy kernel's favor.
Maybe its not noticable on the vintage sense because the old sense based ROMs are less efficient to start with. On the Z port, I got 1721 quad score at stock speed and 1764 OC'd at 1.113. I did not get anywhere remotely close to that using the .17 htc kernel, which is not OC'able anyways.
I do test everything extremely vigorously and am a quad score speed freak - u will notice that from my signature... Dont care about battery life since I have multiple batteries... so I have no idea about that comparison.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8977228&postcount=316
- the above post might enlighten people more.

I've found the stock one to be at least as stable (never had it lag) as anyone else's. And the fast charge is unmatched. Quadrant scores, to me, are just numbers with little to no bearing on actual performance. I've seen high scores that still lag.
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Quad, linpack and neocore scores are the only objective measures of pure performance that I know of. Everything else is too subjective and touchy-feely imho. And to be honest my subjective opinion is that the devs here cook better ROMs and kernels than htc does.
The reason I got an android phone besides my iphone (even though iOS is infinitely more smooth and slick than any droid ROM I have seen) is that the droid platform is more about fun, true customization (not just changing wallpapers like in the iphone), and similar thrills for me... So if its jerky but fast like a Ducatti, I'll take it...

PonsAsinorem said:
I've found the stock one to be at least as stable (never had it lag) as anyone else's. And the fast charge is unmatched. Quadrant scores, to me, are just numbers with little to no bearing on actual performance. I've seen high scores that still lag.
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+1 in that
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this is using ud with kings cfs2 kernel at 113 w compcache
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I have to say i used to get like 1750 with an overclocked kernel and its running just as smooth is not smoother with the new stock kernel and im only getting like a 1300 tops if i recall right.
PonsAsinorem said:
I've found the stock one to be at least as stable (never had it lag) as anyone else's. And the fast charge is unmatched. Quadrant scores, to me, are just numbers with little to no bearing on actual performance. I've seen high scores that still lag.
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[POLL] Do you think ics is a failure??

I just want to share my opinion based on some reading.
Till now Samsung was not able to release bug free ICS ROM, despite the 6 months of working.
Also, I am noticing several complaints in both forums the nexus s and galaxy nexus.
ICS has proved to be slow compared to gingerbread, also it seems to be more battery consuming.
For now I am sticking to GB, maybe we should wait till Google releases the 4.0.4 update, even though I am not so positive.
Google its your job now.
So what do you think??

Dude!! HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER ROCKS?
4.0.4 has already been released and ics Is contrary to all the points you brought out
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Samsung's ICS is bug free, but it is slower than GB and consumes more battery (as you said)... That is why I am using GB...

Neo said:
Dude under which rocks have you been living?
4.0.4 has already been released and ics Is contrary to all the points you brought out
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4.0.4 was released only for nexus s and galaxy nexus, still there are plenty of bugs to be cured. BTW, have you read about connection problems in galaxy nexus due to the 4.0.4 update.

no, ICS is not a failure.
try it yourself and you'll get what i mean.
You are judging and making conclusions based on the complaints by the minorities, and that just doesn't make sense to me...
Look at the majority who are willing to try out the awesomeness of ICS custom roms, look at the number of views of ICS rom threads in this forum, look at the positive, encouraging comments people write to the devs. All these combined should carry some gravitas, right?
Oh yeah, btw, 4.0.4 is already out, take a look at cyanogen 9. It's just that Samsung is not currently implementing this update into the stock roms.

Unfortunately Samsung implementation of ics is an epic failure. Slow and horrible. But that's Samsung and its pretty early days (3months!?)
Plenty of custom ics roms (cm9 specifically) that prove what ics can do when freed from touchwiz Samsung tweaked rubbish.
4.04 been out a while. Try a custom rom you won't go back
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dingdin said:
no, ICS is not a failure.
try it yourself and you'll get what i mean.
You are judging and making conclusions based on the complaints by the minorities, and that just doesn't make sense to me...
Look at the majority who are willing to try out the awesomeness of ICS custom roms, look at the number of views of ICS rom threads in this forum, look at the positive, encouraging comments people write to the devs. All these combined should carry some gravitas, right?
Oh yeah, btw, 4.0.4 is already out, take a look at cyanogen 9. It's just that Samsung is not currently implementing this update into the stock roms.
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Don't forget that we payed $700 for Samsung, Samsung is the one responsible for giving us updates. Also, xda devs are only willing to improve and make our experience richer.

pahardie said:
Unfortunately Samsung implementation of ics is an epic failure. Slow and horrible. But that's Samsung and its pretty early days (3months!?)
Plenty of custom ics roms (cm9 specifically) that prove what ics can do when freed from touchwiz Samsung tweaked rubbish.
4.04 been out a while. Try a custom rom you won't go back
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CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...

Dark Emotion said:
CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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Dark Emotion said:
Samsung's ICS is bug free, but it is slower than GB and consumes more battery (as you said)... That is why I am using GB...
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Hm! Don't know what is going on with your device but here it's nowhere near slow, and battery? Well it consumes same amount as in GB, no way more.
This ICS and impleneted HW acceleration and other stuffs kept me to stick with Android for little while longer actually, just when i was thinking about switching back to iOS it came and successfully purchased me, for some time the least.
And Samsung had put/implemented ICS exactly the way they wanted to be. Some few peoples opinion and nagging won't care them the bit, nor they should be bothered about it.
Besides, what's the point of this thread

Dark Emotion said:
CM9 is awesome, for me it is 100% stable and for daily use, BUT the battery life is killing me...
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Not getting terrible battery life here. Its same as stock really. Try siyah see if that helps you out or do a full wipe etc etc
To the op
Samsungs ics roms are late and hide most benefits of ics which is why I dislike them
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And screen-on time is...?
P.S. I didn't say that CM9 (or any other ICS) has terrible battery life, I just said that it is not as good as GB... And I always do a full wipe when flashing ROMs

Dark Emotion said:
And screen-on time is...?
P.S. I didn't say that CM9 (or any other ICS) has terrible battery life, I just said that it is not as good as GB... And I always do a full wipe when flashing ROMs
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I love ICS, run now on LUX LP4 and loving it.
Always do a full wipe and you have no problems
ICS is absolutely no failure in my opinion

I have installed CM9 + siyah 3.0
I have very good battery life (yeah sligtly less then gb, but i think the cause is that everithing is beta) but i have increased 10 times the responsiveness of my phone.. Everithing is better with ics..
ICS definitely no failure

I don't share the views on speed or battery life - in my view there is little tangible difference on my SGS2 - if anything I would say speed is a little better. Battery life depends on so many variables that it's almost impossible to be objective.
In terms of the update itself, it is definitely an improvement but still also a slight disappointment. In evolutionary terms we have crawled out of the primordial soup and lost the fins but we are still grooming each other looking for scurf and wondering where the smell comes from when we poke our fingers up our bottoms. The quest for fire remains a distant dream...
I can't vote in the poll therefore because there needs to be a middle option.

ICS is not a failure, actually it is a good path for android to travel. What let us down is the distribution method chosen by the oem and even by google itself. The purpose of bringing ics is not even satisfied by all the smartphones which got ics updates.

ICS is good.
Implementation of samsung/sony/htc is not good.

My $0.02, based on testing, and total indifference to "oo-Samsung-sux-lolz-I-demand-newest-FW-yesterday-Samsung-owes-me-I-paid-so-much-CM9-rox".
Failure? No. But not cool, awesome, rocking nor deserving of some of the fanboy praise posted here, in my opinion.
I've tried many, many stock and custom ICS, AOKP and CM9, every kernel and every combination (36 flashes since 30th March, to be precise). Not a single combination has been smoother or qucker than my daily driver or my next two preferences - krinyo's SlimROM, rohit's GB MIUI and Insanity build 57.
Battery life isn't a dealbreaker for me, lag is. I don't have bloatware, don't use mail, am not on Twitter or Facebook, haven't had TW launcher on my phone for 9 months. Even stripped down like this, my GB-based ROMs outperform everything else. And they're a hell of a lot more stable too.
As always, each to their own. But I haven't found any reason to leave GB after all this testing. Certainly no problem in refuting the "once you've tried 4.0.4 you'll never go back" spiel, which is lazy generalization based on nothing.
Unlike many, I wasn't wetting myself in anticipation of ICS, hence haven't needed to change my pants.
And the "poll" is ridiculous, pointless and useless, and not even a poll - there is middle ground.

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WooW, that is not bad at all mate, for me i've never get over 3 hours screen on time before
i might test cm9 out
can i also ask what kernel are u using?

ICS Just doesnt cut it.

Ive recently downgraded back to CM7 GB. ICS just has too many bugs and it seems im the only one who seems to think its "slow" or jerky at times. I encourage you if you just want your phone to work and be as fast as it can be to go back to CM7. It seems everyone keeps saying ICS is ultra fast and ultra smooth. In my experiences, ICS just wasnt made for the SGS1, the hardware just isnt powerful enough, heck even the Galaxy Nexus looked a tad slow on ICS compared to how fast it is on JB.
I dont think CM10 will be that much different from CM9. Im looking into getting an S3 when they drop the price a little bit, (£500!!!! I can get a decent laptop for that price)

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I honestly disagree. I do feel Slim ICS is as fast, as any other 2.3 rom i've tried, with the added bonus of slightly improved responsiveness. This is my personal experience, of course.
And i also think it's not about the hardware. If it was, the iphone wouldn't be such a success. But this is a loaded statement and not really worth going over. I'm just glad everyone has a favourite flavour they can use

Ya really think dat ugly'n'slow CM7 is better dan ICS?

There are trillions of possible combinations of apps and settings, did you do a clean install (wipe everything)?
A clean ICS beats a clean 2.3 ROM.

kaynpayn said:
I honestly disagree. I do feel Slim ICS is as fast, as any other 2.3 rom i've tried, with the added bonus of slightly improved responsiveness. This is my personal experience, of course.
And i also think it's not about the hardware. If it was, the iphone wouldn't be such a success. But this is a loaded statement and not really worth going over. I'm just glad everyone has a favourite flavour they can use
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Yeah its definitely useable. but maybe its just me, I feel like sometimes it will run flawless then sometimes it will feel laggy and slow, regarding iOS, its alot better coded than Android (im going to get hate for taht, but its true, you can run obsolete processors with iOS and still get it to work flawlesly since its so closely ccontrolled and optimised) Its the same with Windows Phone 7. If theres anyone who hasnt tried using Wp7, I encourage you to do so, my next phone will hopefully be the SGS3, but with every single Android phone regardless of specs, sometimes theres a delay with some things, i.e. the gallery. Its not so much lag anymore, just a delay between pressing the app icon and it actually loading. On windows phone, you press the app, BOOM, instantly its there.But JellyBean and "project Butter" is a step in the right direction. (And it looks alot cooler)

is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
Thanks!

trexon said:
is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
Thanks!
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I used it and it's nice, especially the Music app .

dark_knight35 said:
I used it and it's nice, especially the Music app .
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and you have moved to ics?
what caused thay you have moved from MIUI to other rom?

You will come back in 6 hours or less.
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trexon said:
and you have moved to ics?
what caused thay you have moved from MIUI to other rom?
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MIUI v4 is ICS . I moved to test JB.

dark_knight35 said:
MIUI v4 is ICS . I moved to test JB.
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I got back to gingerbread although I liked the neat GUI of ICS and tested almost every variant of it except Slim ICS because it lacked support for Arabic based languages (my native language is Pashto). Another thing for me was the lack of feature of copying contacts to SIM which is crucial for me. Anyway I'm waiting if someone could include that feature, then certainly I will get back to ICS or JB.

ICS is good but the SGS just doesn't get the most of it, you can say what you want but if you think you're getting the full ICS experience on this phone you are sadly mistaken..
Honestly I don't blame the OP downgrading to GB, the sgs is what 2-3 years old now? If you want to run the latest software it might pay to start thinking about upgrading.
My 2c

MrIwik said:
ICS is good but the SGS just doesn't get the most of it, you can say what you want but if you think you're getting the full ICS experience on this phone you are sadly mistaken..
Honestly I don't blame the OP downgrading to GB, the sgs is what 2-3 years old now? If you want to run the latest software it might pay to start thinking about upgrading.
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For me,
Slim ICS>Froyo 2.2.1 (especially stock ZSJPK)>Any Gingerbread rom
Why? The answer is ram. The notion of free ram being wasted ram is just silly. When ram is full, the phone has to constantly close and reopen background processes, causing a decrease in smoothness.
That's why Froyo 2.2.1 was the best, because it had the most least ram consumption. However, slim ICS had that ridiculously big ram configuration, which put it on par with 2.2.1. But it ranks higher because it is ICS and has more features.

Hmm i downgraded to froyo a while ago and found it heaps laggier than ICS , JB is much better than ICS imo now.
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What a strange thread. I've been on a load of different ICS Roms, I've tried almost all of them and I've found 90% of them faster than stock Gingerbread/Froyo.
Right now I've been on CM10 Alpha (JB) for two days and my SGS feels like a new phone again. It's not perfect and 100% reliable, but it's pretty good for an alpha build.

im sorry. what is gingerbread/froyo? never heard of that.
it depends on personal preference to be honest.

trexon said:
is here any happy user of MIUI v4 on SGS?
sorry for this question - is it worth to install it or just forget about it?
Thanks!
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I used tot Love MIUI but thats only because Android didnt look that good before ics.
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disclaimernotice said:
For me,
Slim ICS>Froyo 2.2.1 (especially stock ZSJPK)>Any Gingerbread rom
Why? The answer is ram. The notion of free ram being wasted ram is just silly. When ram is full, the phone has to constantly close and reopen background processes, causing a decrease in smoothness.
That's why Froyo 2.2.1 was the best, because it had the most least ram consumption. However, slim ICS had that ridiculously big ram configuration, which put it on par with 2.2.1. But it ranks higher because it is ICS and has more features.
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Im not a developer, but the ram being full is not always bad. It just depends on how the Os uses it. I agree if you are constantly clearing and caching the ram as u open apps, you will lose smoothness but, for instance, my version of nix pre caches the majority of ram in advance for various applications to use. In essence insuring there is enough ram available for gui apps. Obviously if you are overall limited on ram though it will slow things down.
I have never felt like the ics ports were sluggish, just bit battery heavy, and they seem to run hot. That being said GB is the best compromise for me. Plus there is so much more hacking done for GB.
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cm9 not as good as cm7.2

dissapointed in the following ways, I hope the downgrade path is easy.
Haptic feedback cannot be turned off.
Phone and contacts no longer fully integrated in one app.
contacts has background etc. that doesnt stick to OS theme.
Cannot disable pictures on contacts.
Cannot toggle contacts with numbers only on/off
Many options in the contacts/phone dissapeared. (yes ones I used)
The call screen is worse than the 7.2 version, smaller buttons for speakerphone etc.
Less options in the OS settings.
Launcher not as good as CM7.2 version.
The clear notifications button seems out of place.
Cancel number button out of place on dialer.
I am also not that satisfied by ICS itself. ICs/CM9 seems overhyped, will try CM10 but given there is not stable CM10 for this phone, and people say CM10 has the same contact issues I think I will be putting CM7.2 on in the end and not getting a s3/s3 mini at all (since they cant use GB).

chrcol said:
I think I will be putting CM7.2 on in the end and not getting a s3/s3 mini at all (since they cant use GB).
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By this logic, you will never be able to purchase any phone in the future, let alone the S3/S3 Mini. Are you sure you are in the correct device thread though? Just confirming.

What the hell u talking abt? Were u living in the 90s ?? ICS is history !! We r rocking in 4.1 Jelly bean & u talking abt Gingerbread ....makes he laugh...
And u said ics has less options in settings! Are u blind? Ics has more options in settings than GB.its just organised and categorized ..
U criticising the Holo UI !! Go live in a cave if u think Holo UI is not gr8...go buy an iphone...
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ICS stock vs GB stock has about 3-4 extra options, but loses 3 options.
However CM7.2 vs CM9, CM7.2 has over 30 extra configurable options.
You guys ignored the list I said of all missing features, instead just went on a anti GB rave.
There is more.
I noticed now as well Trebuchet launcher is pretty bad, cant even add shortcuts to it, it does seem CM went backwards a lot from 7.2 to 9.
Now CM10 may be better than CM9, but isnt stable on this phone.
right now I am seeing if I can find replaceables.
Nova launcher works ok but the dock I have to press on hard and repeated times for it to work, googled the problem, others said same complaint but no fix. I tried adw launcher which works great in cm7.2, but is slower on cm9 on a s2 than it is on cm7.2 with an ace, whats that about?
I installed siyah kernel and extweaks, very nice kernel and that got me BLN. A proper working BLN (buggy on CM 7.2 on the ace).
I downloaded a new dialler (exdialer), its big improvement over cm9 dialer but not as good as cm7.2 dialer, how sweet it would be if I could find cm7.2 dialer to install on cm9/10.
Camera in cm9 much better than 7.2. But it has very loud sounds for focus and snap that cant turn off, they sound aweful as well very annoying.
I still have haptic feedback that cant be turned off either, eg. when using keyboard.
and finally the keyboard in cm9 is worse than 7.2, on 7.2 press shift twice for caps lock, on cm9 have to hold it down for caps lock
So you guys praising JB (and I assume cm10.1) the question is does it fix the problems I have listed, remember one key phrase, newer does not necessarily = better.

chrcol said:
Now CM10 may be better than CM9, but isnt stable on this phone
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Which phone is "this"? The one in your signature? Then you are in the wrong forum to begin with...

Latest CM10.1 version has MANY additional features. If you see any lack, go to the github and make some commits!

I think whatever floats your boat, it's nice to get a view on older, more mature versions in comparison. It's like the old XP, vista, 7, 8 debate. Whatever works for you.
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Which phone is "this"? The one in your signature? Then you are in the wrong forum to begin with...
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How about assuming its the S2 because its the S2 section of the site. But phone isnt relevant anyway as I am talking about the software not the hardware. Unless CM9 is a different software on different phones.
Is it that hard to comment on what I am saying in my post instead of just attacking and mocking me? maybe I make valid points but you dont to upset any devs, I dont know, tell me.
For clarity I will repeat.
the galaxy s2 i9100 (not G variant).
the only stable builds of CM for this phone are CM7.2 and CM9.
cm7.2 has dozens of configurations that are removed in cm9.
I noted any reviews i read of cm9 (presumably not wanting to upset developers) have considered removed features as non important and not worth worrying about, however I used many of the configurations removed in cm9 such as the ability to disable haptic feedback, ability to remove pictures of contacts, ability to list only contacts with numbers and the dialer in cm9 is pretty bad compared to whats in cm7.2.
The phone I use for calls etc. is whats in my sig, I am merely experimenting with this now as I dont just switch to a phone where I dont like the interface, I spent weeks if not months getting my ace experience to something useable. It seems it will be the same with the s2/s3 (I wont be using this s2 either but using it to test cm9/10 whilst waiting for s3 to arrive and then may not even keep the s3 and switch to nexus or something for stable cm10 build).
I will test cm10 also, but I have had people tell me already it takes more from cm9 than it does cm7.2.
So is it possible to simply comment on what I put in my first 2 posts in this thread, the functions removed in cm9 and if its possible to get them put back in cm9/10 via downloadable apps.

I also prefer CM7 but I think it's more of a nostalgia thing when I owned my Nexus One. Plus I love that CM colour themed Nexus live wallpaper.
Hey, whatever floats your boat.
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Ok I am now trying a AOSP JB rom from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810042
So I see now that the dialer/contact/launcher changes I dont like are from ICS/JB itself which CM simply kept in their rom.
I do agree some will prefer JB/ICS everyone has their own taste, i didnt mean to offend anyone but was more hoping someone had a way to use CM7.2 dialer in CM9/10. Or CM7.2 dialer in any other rom.
again I am not too happy tho with the rom, it seems there is regressions on every android update google do.
they seem very pro cloud and anti privacy.
So on ICS and GB can disable auto sync globally on the phone, completely turn it off, GB also can stop any apps doing background activity globally (removed in ICS). I see on JB the option to turn sync on/off appears to be missing, I added my gmail account and it immediatly started syncing before I could disable individually the sync things on that account. So now I have a load of junk downloaded to the phone.
I also seen video clips showing super power widgets on JB (videos trying to show of how good JB is), but this has none at all.
It seems ICS/JB just arent for me I guess, the new features they bring dont seem to interest me, however I did want to upgrade the OS because of ICS/JB only apps (future proofing) and some hardware features require 4.x to work?
Looking through the phone settings, the only options I see that are not configurable on stock GB are a few extra for the keyboard input and voice input. Otherwise the only changes are actually removed options, it seems every progression of android is to simplify it.
My S3 is here now, if I am to use GB I will have to use a different phone unless the S3 maybe has a GB rom for it. This S2 is too damaged around the edges for my everyday phone (got of ebay).

if u really want something stable try TW 4.1.2 :good:
it has a lot of GS3 features and its fast + smooth as butter
try it one time and u will not look back

yeah still playing with firmwares
Now got PA 3.1.5 on (4.2.2) which I think is either based on CM 10.1 or has elements of CM in it as they credit CM in their post.
JB 4.1.1 AOSP was slow on this phone, I noticed it just by seeing backup restores been slower, apps slower to load etc. and when I did a quadrant benchmark and compared to the ICS scores they were about half, tons of loss on i/o speed in particular. 2d alo had a chunk of a hit, the score was so low compared to ICS and CM9 it was almost as low as my ace gets although the feeling was quite as slow as the ace, still much faster. (scores back up on this 4.2.2 based rom).
So I found now in the data usage options the ability to disable auto sync. I also found how to add settings shortcuts using trebuchat, I prefer the way in ADW launcher but at least its now gone from not been possible to just a slow way,
Played with the JB notification bar widgets, whilst better than what could do in ICS I find it clunky to use, they too spaced out and have to click on a button first to make them appear, plus is too many I dont have use for, but maybe there is a way to disable ones dont need to toggle. The widget configuration in CM 7.2 was perfect for me (to be fair I think was retained in CM9 also) but its gone in this rom.
I still have no progress on replacing the people app for contacts, ideally I still want to use whatever app CM used in CM7.2. also not a fan of the apps and widget been shown together in the ap drawer, to me app drawer should be just apps and nothing else. But thats not a showstopper, the dialer/contacts is the showstopper at the moment.
scores if anyone interested.
quadrant -> ics s2 stock (cm9) [aosp JB 4.1.x] <PA3 4.2.2>
overall 3751 (3459) [2583] <3751>
cpu 5309 (5654) [4689] <5543>
mem 3786 (1834) [1972] <4242>
io 7417 (7406) [3902] <6302>
2d 439 (500) [370] <500>
3d 1806 (1901) [1983] <2167>

Stock TW 4.1.2 for u
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But gb is so slow and has a lot of lags JB is fast and has butter scrolling is super smooth compared to GB
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chrcol said:
quadrant -> ics s2 stock (cm9) [aosp JB 4.1.x] <PA3 4.2.2>
overall 3751 (3459) [2583] <3751>
cpu 5309 (5654) [4689] <5543>
mem 3786 (1834) [1972] <4242>
io 7417 (7406) [3902] <6302>
2d 439 (500) [370] <500>
3d 1806 (1901) [1983] <2167>
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Quadrant is too crappy benchmark to rely on BTW
u can try Antutu or geekbench instead
:good:

OK that TW screenshot has my interest
camera etc seems stable on this ROM.
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Think it has to do with simplifying the OS, we here are power users but most of the options were for me anyway null and void and overkill for an everyday use phone. You will find most if not all your options that you miss in CM7 are not there and probably never will be I'm afraid.
Google themselves want a simplified phone that the everyday Joe can easily use, and the CM team are so busy these days maintaining so many different devices that I think they would prefer a stable, fast, usable phone that wasn't crammed full of options some of which most would never use.
Just my opinion lol.

I agree those are probably the exact reasons.
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when ever I want to have flashing break , I use cm7.2 + fluxi :good:

tombassi said:
when ever I want to have flashing break , I use cm7.2 + fluxi :good:
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Does that jb modem work ok on cm7? I used kl1
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