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According to engadget. Looks like it won't be too much longer now . I'm guessing early nov.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/15/galaxy-s-android-2-2-froyo-update-begins-to-trickle-out/
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According to engadget. Looks like it won't be too much longer now . I'm guessing early nov.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/15/galaxy-s-android-2-2-froyo-update-begins-to-trickle-out/
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That's great and all but we're on Sprint, remember? I expect to have this by mid-February/March.
(sorry, couldn't resist)
Good news. Can't wait to see it. Would love to just use stock TW 3.0 to speed up my phone (ADW slows it down a bit.)
Considering GingerBread is supposed to drop next week some time....this really kind of blows. We really need a good CM6 then 7!
I can't remember exactly but I think Hero didn't get the 2.1 update until after code dropped for FroYo...Sucks being a version behind. And considering track record its the only OS Update we will see official. I highly doubt we will actually get GingerBread from Samsung/Sprint.
Kcarpenter said:
Considering GingerBread is supposed to drop next week some time....this really kind of blows. We really need a good CM6 then 7!
I can't remember exactly but I think Hero didn't get the 2.1 update until after code dropped for FroYo...Sucks being a version behind. And considering track record its the only OS Update we will see official. I highly doubt we will actually get GingerBread from Samsung/Sprint.
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I agree. Everyone getting their hopes up for Gingerbread for the Galaxy S phones, I think are setting themselves up for a big let down. I haven't seen any phone (besides Droid and N1) receive more than 1 official update. And considering Samsung's update history, I definitely don't see them supporting this phone beyond 2.2
los1223 said:
I agree. Everyone getting their hopes up for Gingerbread for the Galaxy S phones, I think are setting themselves up for a big let down. I haven't seen any phone (besides Droid and N1) receive more than 1 official update. And considering Samsung's update history, I definitely don't see them supporting this phone beyond 2.2
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Isn't Gingerbread geared to tablets anyways?
crabjoe said:
Isn't Gingerbread geared to tablets anyways?
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Not just tablets - Just better than 2.1 was with large screens (over 4.5 inchs).
GingerBread should add native video calling, a new UI, and a few other surprises.
And suspected release of Google Music.
Hopefully the ball keeps rolling until it gets to Sprint. Post any rumors you hear on this thread so we can keep track of this "gradual" rollout.
I agree that its unlikely we will get anything after 2.2...it seems like every Android I buy this happens to me lol. Oh well
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i hope we will get beyond 2.2
lol maybe verizon has an agreement with google that only droids get support past froyo. Google and verizon are really close business partners and have almost colluded in other aspects of mobile markets.
Where in the heck are u guys getti.g this gingerbdead crap from
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Where in the heck are u guys getti.g this gingerbdead crap from
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I assume its the moment/hero skip from 2.0 to 2.1 but still took forever
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Where in the heck are u guys getti.g this gingerbdead crap from
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I believe the reports for gingerbread are 4th quarter of 2010. That's probably why everyone thinks it's coming soon. Other gingerbread info was from the last IO (they showed the music player streaming music from cloud) and just general quotes from google engineers about trying to get rid of carrier skins and what not.
Having said all that, didn't they just hire that webOS designer a few months ago? He's supposedly the lead designer for gingerbread, so could it really be coming in q4?
As for support, i think it'll be awhile but it will be supported. I feel like sammy has to support the galaxy line at this point w/ their 5 million handsets sold and the imminent galaxy tab (which they already stated will have gingerbread at some point). This is my first sammy phone and it's pretty apparent people have gotten burned by them in the past, but it would be a customer relations nightmare if they did this w/ the galaxy line.
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Where in the heck are u guys getti.g this gingerbdead crap from
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Gingerbread supports large screens which suppose to go on tablet pads...I dunno where they get the idea that its gonna come out for phones
Maybe it will be a good reason to upgrade galaxy s phones because of the name similarities, now whether they have any similar parts inside I doubt but kind of gives us some of that 'hope' it will come out for phones also.
They have a development center here in Irvine, ca..... I will mission impossible into the facility and retrieve the release date in the laser protected vault room.
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Very pleased to see we are getting froyo on epic cannot wait for flash support hopefully. Can use hulu again like winmo
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ultra78721 said:
Gingerbread supports large screens which suppose to go on tablet pads...I dunno where they get the idea that its gonna come out for phones
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Actually it will be released with phones that have a 1Ghz Processing chip and at least 3.5 inch screen or larger.
Google themselves stated that gingerbread will require ATLEAST the N1's specs bare minimum. I read that a LOOOOOONG time ago though so idk...
But ayways, sammys rep for the tab mentioned honeycomb...
What if honeycomb is the start for android tablet OS and gingerbread is the continuation for the phone os?
I mean, tink about it...honeycomb isn't a sweet snack...atleast one that I know of...
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I mean, tink about it...honeycomb isn't a sweet snack...atleast one that I know of...
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Honeycomb is both a delicious treat as well as a continuation of the alphabetical nomenclature Google has chosen for their OS's. If they were going to branch off and make a separate lineage for tablets alone, I doubt they would interrupt their alphabetical naming scheme for phone based OS' to do it.
muyoso said:
Honeycomb is both a delicious treat as well as a continuation of the alphabetical nomenclature Google has chosen for their OS's. If they were going to branch off and make a separate lineage for tablets alone, I doubt they would interrupt their alphabetical naming scheme for phone based OS' to do it.
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Mmmmm honeycomb is delicious! I got a chunk of white chocolate covered honeycomb from a local confection shop and it was DELICIOUS.
But I agree.... I dont honestly believe that any of the Galaxy phones will get anything past 2.2.
By the time 2.2 is FINALLY pushed to all the galaxys, new and better phones will be out.
I've never seen ANY android that had more than 1 system upgrade that wasn't a leaked developer made upgrade.
posted from a EPIC4G.
But they say, it's for the tablets. :-(
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/google-shows-off-android-3-0-the-entirely-for-tablet-honeycom/
EDIT : hopefully , we'll get video chat this time.
I'm actually happy its just for tablets. Tablets need something to make the special beyond "just big phones"
Plus I couldn't imagine how weird it would be with capacitive screen buttons on the phone but honeycomb virtual screen buttons as well?
Well played Google... Well played
Oh yes... sweet yes... portable?
Who knows.
agree 100%. theres got to be something that differentiates tablets and phones. google is moving in that direction. i only hope that there will be a version of HC that will run on phones in a "translated" form to make it more usable on a mobile interface.
Clueless on how to cope with two different sets... but seems they don't give ..... about it.
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sigh, it does NOT say tablet only, it says designed for tablets, a whole of difference.
Told y'all the CNN Honeycomb article leaned toward tablets: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10001097#post10001097
ROM_Guest said:
Told y'all the CNN Honeycomb article leaned toward tablets: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10001097#post10001097
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have you never heard of marketing?
"designed for tablets" is marketing bs. Until someone shows a significant change in the tablet and cell phone hardware, it will continue to be bs. A few applications will need to be changed (like GMail) but the rest is marketing.
descendency said:
have you never heard of marketing?
"designed for tablets" is marketing bs. Until someone shows a significant change in the tablet and cell phone hardware, it will continue to be bs. A few applications will need to be changed (like GMail) but the rest is marketing.
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The screen size is that significant change. It requires quite different application layout concepts (which in turn require OS support).
It could well be, that honeycomb development is focused solely on tablet issues (like being in essence sort of gingerbread "tablet edition") and is worthless in the smartphone context.
Again, Andy Rubin at D: Dive into the mobile said the focus was on tablet but that the new views/pane could be adapted to phones.
That being said wouldn't be to surprise if we have to wait until Google I/O for some of this eyecandy on cell phones.
Oh and Gtalk Video is there...
Honeycomb looks great. I agree that "designed for tablets" its good marketing. They can play the angle that the ipad was based on a phone OS & Honeycomb has been built for the ground up with tablets in mind.
My guess (or atleast what I hope) is that Google will announce Honeycomb for phones as well. They would share the same UI just with one designed for smaller screens in mind. Ideally the phone OS wouldn't need the dual core processing (so fragmentation doesn't kick in). And this way both tablets and phones share the same platform making it a bit easier for developers. Ofcourse this is just the way I am dreaming things up but it does make a bit of sense with Google making Gingerbread 2.4 after all the initial speculation that it would be 3.0. It makes me wonder if Gingerbread was rushed in order to get the next Nexus flagship phone out before the holidays.
lazaro17 said:
They can play the angle that the ipad was based on a phone OS & Honeycomb has been built for the ground up with tablets in mind
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Sure the markets will play that angle I'm sure. Of course the reality is that the iPad was actually designed before the iPhone. So the iPhone is using a tablet OS, not the other way around!
lazaro17 said:
Honeycomb looks great. I agree that "designed for tablets" its good marketing. They can play the angle that the ipad was based on a phone OS & Honeycomb has been built for the ground up with tablets in mind.
My guess (or atleast what I hope) is that Google will announce Honeycomb for phones as well. They would share the same UI just with one designed for smaller screens in mind. Ideally the phone OS wouldn't need the dual core processing (so fragmentation doesn't kick in). And this way both tablets and phones share the same platform making it a bit easier for developers.
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Provided el goog did not invent any new kind of wheel, I think it is quite safe to assume, that honeycomb "tablet edition" changes are geared to support those new additional screen layouts typical to the tablets.
Like currently developer can define several different layouts, for example one for portrait and one for landscape, screen form factor, docking state, night/day mode etc.
So, there will be additional modes for tablets. And additional UI controls utilizing those modes.
Then google will need to modify all the system apps, I think this makes the most of the honeycomb overhead. To do it properly it is by far not enough to "inflate" your present smartphone apps. Samsung already hacked this into the most of the apps shipped with galaxy tab.
It is actually quite boring if you look at it from the smartphone point of view. More like the new UI skin if at all.
only (put your curse here) would presume Google is ditching the mobile phones to tablets by providing new 'cool' updates to tablets and let the phones rot. almost every person has a phone not every person has a tablet or planning on getting one. Not very good for Google business, so they won't keep (put any Android version here) exclusive to a certain platform.
So this means that Gingerbread 2.3 will remain the flagship OS for phones till the year end or will the Dual Core Motorola Atrix & Optimus 2X can have 3.0 sometime later
android_master said:
So this means that Gingerbread 2.3 will remain the flagship OS for phones till the year end or will the Dual Core Motorola Atrix & Optimus 2X can have 3.0 sometime later
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No. All this means is that 3.0 will be shipping on some tablets in a few months. We don't yet know anything about Android releases for phones beyond Gingerbread.
damn right it looks great!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CenYofDGwoU
edit: thank god that now the confusion that many have regarding the difference between "gingerbread" and "android 3.0" will be cleared up. yes, there are folks like that :eek
Perhaps facets of the UI are Tablet only.
What a stupid thing it would be to fragment Android even further.
Nice UI..BB Playbook task switching still is miles ahead in terms of wow factor and ease of switching.
The apps themselves look great. Once again I have great fear of these 3d aspects bogging things like the Froyo Gallery.
If it doesnt load at lightning speed they will be guilty of overshooting the programming for available HW.
I cant see that UI running smoothly on any current phone including the Nexus S.
The real question, which has yet to have a definitive answer, is when can i actually buy something that runs this?!
Its safe to say that I will be picking up a tablet with Honeycomb this year.
About 11:00 into the video interview:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/07/exclusive-interview-googles-matias-duarte-talks-honeycomb-tab/
"What you see in Honeycomb is absolutely the direction for Android."
- Matias Duarte, Director of Android User Experience
I wasn't expecting that Honeycomb would be tablet only. Thnx for sharing
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I wasn't expecting that Honeycomb would be tablet only. Thnx for sharing
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Yeah, a lot of people were thinking it was, which is understandable considering Google had never confirmed it either way until now.
Paul22000 said:
About 11:00 into the video interview:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/07/exclusive-interview-googles-matias-duarte-talks-honeycomb-tab/
"What you see in Honeycomb is absolutely the direction for Android."
- Matias Duarte, Director of Android User Experience
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Thanks for posting the Paul
I wonder if the future of Android phones, post Honeycomb, is to stop making phones with the capacitive buttons (back, menu, home, search) and instead just have purely a screen relying upon Honeycomb's virtual buttons instead?
Probably wont happen but just a thought...
ap3604 said:
Thanks for posting the Paul
I wonder if the future of Android phones, post Honeycomb, is to stop making phones with the capacitive buttons (back, menu, home, search) and instead just have purely a screen relying upon Honeycomb's virtual buttons instead?
Probably wont happen but just a thought...
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He actually goes into it in the interview about "reducing Android's hardware requirements" and that most likely yes, phones and tablets won't need physical or capacitive buttons. But he says they are leaving it open to the manufacturer; if someone wants or needs those buttons, then they can do it. (I suspect Honeycomb phones won't have the traditional 4 hardware buttons.)
Anyway, it's a great interview and highly recommend it; I'm still listening to it on and off.
Just finished that interview. It really puts a lot of things into perspective and gets me excited for the future of Android.
300,000 new activations per day now too. And as was confirmed before, these aren't new rom installs or upgrades, they are new devices.
Ok so
-honeycomb is for phones too
-honeycomb can support hardware buttons
-honeycomb has no minimum hardware requirements
Sooo why didn'they develop honeycomb for nexus one too? Why put efforts developing a 2.3 (maybe even a 2.4) release then?
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Sooo why didn'they develop honeycomb for nexus one too? Why put efforts developing a 2.3 (maybe even a 2.4) release then?
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Gingerbread is not wasted effort, much of work done there will carry over to Honeycomb. The keyboard for instance, and the kernel changes such as the new garbage collector.
If they wanted to get tablets out the door it makes sense to focus on that initially. They say the new interface scales down to phones too, but I'm sure it will take some extra time.
my dream/wish is something very to what motorola has done with astrix.. but better
Honeycomb phone.... looks like and works like a phone...
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A dock.. looks like a tablet.. but is essentially just a screen with a battery like compartment in the back.
Put the the phone in the compartment..the interface changes to tablet GUI
It will be an irresistible combo!
How does "What you see in Honeycomb is absolutely the direction for android" = "Honeycomb is coming to mobile phones"?
I haven't watch a single second of the interview so he might explained it further there, but the sentence you specifically highlighted out does not mean Honeycomb is guaranteed to come to mobile phones.
Yes, you could interpret it as honeycomb is the direction for android, and since mobile phones run android, we're going to get it for mobile phones right? But it could also mean the honeycomb ui is the direction for mobile phones but we're not going to implement it on mobile phone right now as we're focusing on tablets and we hope to make the ui on both mobile phones and tablets the same in Ice cream(or whatever they end up calling it).
Like I said, haven't watch the vid, but this is my take on the one sentence op took out to state his point.
More video evidence (from last month) that Honeycomb will work on phones:
youtube.com/watch?v=koIzhLaRJJo
At 4:27...
Interviewer: Is Honeycomb just a version of Android that happens to work well on tablets or is it a tablet version of Android?
Andy Rubin: It's both.
Later at 6:10 Andy Rubin elaborates further by mentioning a Honeycomb "Fragments API" which allows developers to define a smartphone and tablet UI for their applications.
Mokurex said:
How does "What you see in Honeycomb is absolutely the direction for android" = "Honeycomb is coming to mobile phones"?
I haven't watch a single second of the interview..
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He gave the link to the video for a reason. You should probably watch it before saying he's wrong.
Mokurex said:
How does "What you see in Honeycomb is absolutely the direction for android" = "Honeycomb is coming to mobile phones"?
I haven't watch a single second of the interview so he might explained it further there, but the sentence you specifically highlighted out does not mean Honeycomb is guaranteed to come to mobile phones.
Yes, you could interpret it as honeycomb is the direction for android, and since mobile phones run android, we're going to get it for mobile phones right? But it could also mean the honeycomb ui is the direction for mobile phones but we're not going to implement it on mobile phone right now as we're focusing on tablets and we hope to make the ui on both mobile phones and tablets the same in Ice cream(or whatever they end up calling it).
Like I said, haven't watch the vid, but this is my take on the one sentence op took out to state his point.
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You should probably watch the video then. One quote is just to make his point. You can't pick it apart just on that fact, it is a basic way to communicate, pick a part of something to start the conversation.
Watch the video, I won't spell it out for you. But Honeycomb is for everything.
pfmiller said:
He gave the link to the video for a reason. You should probably watch it before saying he's wrong.
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I have never once said that he's wrong, he's probably correct by all means. My point was that the title of the thread says honeycomb is coming to phone, I clicked in here, see a quote highlighted in bold which doesn't really explain the point and a 20 minute long video. I assume the quote is supposed to be the main point of the video, so that's why I responded based off of that.
I'm not accusing anybody or trolling for that matter, just voicing my opinion in an open forum. Chill guys =)
My apologies if I sounded too harsh. You really should watch the video though, it answers all your questions and is really quite interesting.
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I have never once said that he's wrong, he's probably correct by all means. My point was that the title of the thread says honeycomb is coming to phone, I clicked in here, see a quote highlighted in bold which doesn't really explain the point and a 20 minute long video. I assume the quote is supposed to be the main point of the video, so that's why I responded based off of that
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Why do you think the link to the video is there?
I have some contacts at HTC and was told that Honeycomb update is tablet only and HTC Sense is still possible (killing the rumours that Google might forbid UI skins starting from Honeycomb). So we won't see Honeycomb for phones, but we will see Honeycomb features coming to phones starting with the next Android version (ice cream).
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Shahpur.Azizpour said:
I have some contacts at HTC and was told that Honeycomb update is tablet only and HTC Sense is still possible (killing the rumours that Google might forbid UI skins starting from Honeycomb). So we won't see Honeycomb for phones, but we will see Honeycomb features coming to phones starting with the next Android version (ice cream).
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who cares what it's actually going to be called though? I suspect that yes, the phone version will get a different delineation than just 3.0 Honeycomb. Probably 3.2 Ice Cream. I guess we'll see it first at the Google I/O event (May 10-11, 2011) and then show up early Fall on the next Nexus model?
The point from the interview though is that even if they call it Ice Cream for phones, it will look and act very similar to what they showed for tablets at CES (no hardware buttons, improved multi-tasking, scrollable widgets, etc). He also mentions that absolutely yes, Android is 100% still open and HTC or whoever can continue to skin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4NqT6u_ODk
Any chance we will see this on our devices not in the near future but in the furure?
3.0 is intended for tablet use...there may be a port...but no intention for handset use.
General??????
mastibeta said:
3.0 is intended for tablet use...there may be a port...but no intention for handset use.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/android-3-0-honeycomb-emulator-has-traces-of-smartphone-support
supposed to have smart phone support
by the time 3.0 hits (if ever) the fascinate you and i both will be on a diff phone
just happy to have 2.2
Are you a developer? Are you releasing something? Are you requesting a feature for development?
No, no, and no. Go back to general. Your post is not only inflammatory by virtue of the fact that you're asking about something that's two releases away (and technically not even out yet!) but also in the wrong section.
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Honeycomb probably won't make it to devices, since it's intended for tablets.
Ice Cream is the version of Android we would want. It comes after Honeycomb (obviously..) and is the honeycomb UI intended for smart phones.
If anything, next up would be any version updates (2.2.1+) to Froyo. After that, it would probably be an excrutiatingly slow wait for 2.3.x (Gingerbread). The fact that modders keep pressing forward with ROMs & kernels does help considerably though.
Android continuously feels like the girl that is just out of my league, the next version is always everything that I wanted but it feels like ill never get it. Oh well, maybe next phone.
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Android continuously feels like the girl that is just out of my league, the next version is always everything that I wanted but it feels like ill never get it. Oh well, maybe next phone.
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I got that girl...now we live together, puppy...no ring yet. dreams can come true!
Mmmmm...Froyo!
Slow down chief. We just got Froyo We should be complaining about not having Gingerbread before we start discussing Honeycomb or Ice Cream... Also sentences with the words "near future" and "our devices" don't make sense.
Wow, I'm continually amazed at the lack of some to be content or understand the climate of the forums here.
There are threads saying stop posting where's the froyo... This doesn't mean post where's the honeycomb yo?
Please stop the madness...
As everyone has said, this question is ridiculously premature to say the least.
But that said, to those saying "Honeycomb isn't for phones!": That's simply not true. Google execs have said Honeycomb will run on phones in the past, and they talked about how apps will run on both Honeycomb phones and tablets during today's event.
http://pocketnow.com/android/matias-duarte-gives-glimpse-of-android-honeycomb-on-phones
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20030465-265.html
Seriously, this thread did nothing to aid in development. This belongs in general.
It just makes it harder for members to sort through to actual roms and development.
Whether or not honeycomb will come to this phone is up to the developers who will have to port it for this phone. If they are willing, you will have it. But requesting this will get you nothing.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/android-3-0-honeycomb-emulator-has-traces-of-smartphone-support
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That's just an emulator. I would still think it's Tablet only. http://www.examiner.com/gadgets-in-san-jose/google-android-3-0-will-be-available-only-for-tablets
An emulator would have all possible options.
Hi all, after watching some videos of the SDK for HC, I have been both surprised and disappointed because I expected a revolution most notorious for this new OS and only seem to alter the appearance like Touchwizz style and I am surprised that the optimization by Tiamat, in my opinion provides a perfect scenario, much more possibilities both in appearance and applications than ICS
somevideos from SDK ICS Tablets
http://es.engadget.com/2011/10/19/un-primer-vistazo-a-ice-cream-sandwich-para-tablets/
I'm definitely happy with ICS. The improvements are good for phones. For tablets, think of it as a refinement to Honeycomb.
In anycase ICS does really deliver on Google's promise to unify phones and tablets.
I agree with you, for smartphone is an excellent update has new features, although almost everything is extrapolated from the HC
It was really meant for phones.
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It was really meant for phones.
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How do you figure that?
I frankly don't know what you were expecting exactly. This is an update to an existing OS, not a new OS. And there are a LOT of changes under the hood that haven't been really discussed at the Samsung/Google event. Something like turning the Recent button into an actual Task Manager is a very nice features. Built-in screenshot capabilities is another long-time requested feature that is in ICS. Sure, a lot of the other changes are targeted at phones, but Android is first of all a mobile device OS.
Look at http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0-highlights.html for a closer detail at changes in 4.0. And look at all the non-visible, under-the-hood changes that are nonetheless major, even if they do not represent any visual or end-user impact at first: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0.html
To me, ICS looks exactly what it should have been: first of all a serious spit-shine done at Android, giving the bit of polish people often complained it lacked. And it also brings a lot of new goodies to the table.
Its because we have some of the features on our tablets that our phones had to live without....
I'm going to be happy when our tablets run most apps on the market like phones without issue.
Slightly unrelated note: Andy Rubin said at AsiaD that ICS should be opensourced a few weeks after the Galaxy Nexus launch. That will allow ROM modders to come up to plenty of new features for our tablets.
musashiken said:
I'm definitely happy with ICS. The improvements are good for phones. For tablets, think of it as a refinement to Honeycomb.
In anycase ICS does really deliver on Google's promise to unify phones and tablets.
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Agreed. Actually, ICS is what honeycomb should have been. Motorola actually rushed Google for the developement of 3.0 to release with the xoom. Anyways that's their reasoning for not releasing the source for HC and why they are going to be releasing the code for ICS. They didn't want people to developed a platform that was rushed.
Rushed or not it works great as a tablet os.
There is alot of honeycomb in ics you can easily tell that hc was a transitional os but alot better than most other transitional OS's like.....windows ME or vista....so not sure how rushed it was.
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Hi all, after watching some videos of the SDK for HC, I have been both surprised and disappointed because I expected a revolution most notorious for this new OS and only seem to alter the appearance like Touchwizz style and I am surprised that the optimization by Tiamat, in my opinion provides a perfect scenario, much more possibilities both in appearance and applications than ICS
somevideos from SDK ICS Tablets
http://es.engadget.com/2011/10/19/un-primer-vistazo-a-ice-cream-sandwich-para-tablets/
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Uh, no. I think if you were disappointed than your expectations were too high. If you've used Honeycomb, then very little in ICS should surprise you, given that Google is simply using ICS as a vehicle to link phones with the work already accomplished on their tablet OS. Honeycomb is great, and I look forward to getting ICS on both my Nexus S and my Xoom, given that Honeycomb (to me) is superior in almost every way to Gingerbread.
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Rushed or not it works great as a tablet os.
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I disagree. We lost features. The central complaint about the original Galaxy Tab was that it was basically a big phone. Not much has changed with Honeycomb and until very recently, that big phone had more functionality than our devices (which are bigger big phones.)
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Calling any iteration of Android "rushed" demonstrates a misunderstanding of Google's core development philosophy.
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Rushed or not it works great as a tablet os.
There is alot of honeycomb in ics you can easily tell that hc was a transitional os but alot better than most other transitional OS's like.....windows ME or vista....so not sure how rushed it was.
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Again Motorola pushed google for a tablet os to produce the xoom. Again, its their reason for not releasing the source for HC. Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)#Licensing
Jellybean will focus more on tablets. With a plethora of quad core tablets about to be unleashed, devs should jump at the chance to develop richer applications that can harness the power of 4 cores.
3devious said:
I disagree. We lost features. The central complaint about the original Galaxy Tab was that it was basically a big phone. Not much has changed with Honeycomb and until very recently, that big phone had more functionality than our devices (which are bigger big phones.)
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Galaxy tab was a big phone..just as the ipad was. They are both running os built for phones....hc is nothing like a phone and was built with tablets in mind. So the comparision is kinda ridiculous.
s14tam said:
Again Motorola pushed google for a tablet os to produce the xoom. Again, its their reason for not releasing the source for HC. Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)#Licensing
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I am fully aware of the history. But it was far from a bad release and does not feel rushed. It fits perfect. And ics is not filling very many holes in hc. So if you don't like hc then I'm afraid you wont like ics.
All they did was merge hc with the phone world and eliminated the phone only part. Ics is hc with a dialpad.
ZanshinG1 said:
Calling any iteration of Android "rushed" demonstrates a misunderstanding of Google's core development philosophy.
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Wow...I agree with you...crazy
ZanshinG1 said:
Calling any iteration of Android "rushed" demonstrates a misunderstanding of Google's core development philosophy.
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csseale said:
Wow...I agree with you...crazy
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So are you both saying that Google would never in a million years push production of a product while omitting some features to make a deadline? If honeycomb was what Android 3.0 was always meant to be, then Google would have had no problem with releasing the source for it as they have been doing for all previous versions. If you really understood androids history, then you either have insider knowledge or are demonstrating a misunderstanding of reality.
s14tam said:
So are you both saying that Google would never in a million years push production of a product while omitting some features to make a deadline? If honeycomb was what Android 3.0 was always meant to be, then Google would have had no problem with releasing the source for it as they have been doing for all previous versions. If you really understood androids history, then you either have insider knowledge or are demonstrating a misunderstanding of reality.
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Release early, release often is a core google philosophy.
The lack of a honeycomb source release has nothing to do with being "rushed". According to Rubin, it was to prevent the proliferation of phones with a non-phone optimized OS.