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Interesting honeycomb news!?

http://androidandme.com/2010/11/news/verizon-motopad-first-to-launch-with-honeycomb-android-3-0/
Freaking gingerbread isn't out yet and there are rumors already on honeycomb, just thought I'd share
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Kind of reminds me of the NBA and free agent signings. Even if there isn't a story at all the writers just make up some stupid idea w/ some fake sources and post it as something concrete. Don't feed the lies brotha' stay strong and resist even acknowledging the honeycomb lies no matter how stupid they may be.

Correct me if I'm wrong but inst 3.0 (honeycomb) specifically for Tablets while 2.3 (gingerbread) is specifically for smaller screens such as phones and they are being worked on simultaneously thats why they are coming back to back?

i actually feel the same way, honey comb wasn't announced till the sudden spike of interest in pushing tablets, and they drop the build version of gingerbread from 3.0 to 2.3

So what I am understanding is that honeycomb will be for tablets only?
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I think Honeycomb is going to be tailored for tablets as well but I doub't they'll split it off 100%. Kinda how iOS 4.2 is going to be for both the iPad and the iPhone/iPod Touch but the versions for each type of device differenciate at some level to provide a better experience for each.

There is nothing different happening here than what has happened with each release of android.
When one release is cut (Froyo), the line is moved into open development (AOSP), and the next line (Gingerbread) begins development behind closed doors and is considered "experimental" line. Things that don't make the cut for Gingerbread release stay "live" in the experimental line.
This happens for EVERY RELEASE CUT. Development for android has always happened in two iterations. Some features developed for the second iteration sometimes make their way into the first iteration.
Current android works on tablets, but because there is very little tablets out it's not focused on, this is nothing like the iOS situation of having two versions of the OS.
The reason apps don't "work" properly on tablets is that developers simply haven't bothered to creat tablet sized layouts (LARGE/MDPI and Large/LDPI).

onesavior said:
So what I am understanding is that honeycomb will be for tablets only?
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yup unless some ports it for smaller screens

Diamond_dawg said:
yup unless some ports it for smaller screens
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Speculation only either way.

knightnz said:
Speculation only either way.
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True that.....

Honeycomb demoed at CES and it's Android 3.0

But they say, it's for the tablets. :-(
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/google-shows-off-android-3-0-the-entirely-for-tablet-honeycom/
EDIT : hopefully , we'll get video chat this time.

I'm actually happy its just for tablets. Tablets need something to make the special beyond "just big phones"
Plus I couldn't imagine how weird it would be with capacitive screen buttons on the phone but honeycomb virtual screen buttons as well?
Well played Google... Well played

Oh yes... sweet yes... portable?
Who knows.

agree 100%. theres got to be something that differentiates tablets and phones. google is moving in that direction. i only hope that there will be a version of HC that will run on phones in a "translated" form to make it more usable on a mobile interface.

Clueless on how to cope with two different sets... but seems they don't give ..... about it.
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sigh, it does NOT say tablet only, it says designed for tablets, a whole of difference.

Told y'all the CNN Honeycomb article leaned toward tablets: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10001097#post10001097

ROM_Guest said:
Told y'all the CNN Honeycomb article leaned toward tablets: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10001097#post10001097
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have you never heard of marketing?
"designed for tablets" is marketing bs. Until someone shows a significant change in the tablet and cell phone hardware, it will continue to be bs. A few applications will need to be changed (like GMail) but the rest is marketing.

descendency said:
have you never heard of marketing?
"designed for tablets" is marketing bs. Until someone shows a significant change in the tablet and cell phone hardware, it will continue to be bs. A few applications will need to be changed (like GMail) but the rest is marketing.
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The screen size is that significant change. It requires quite different application layout concepts (which in turn require OS support).
It could well be, that honeycomb development is focused solely on tablet issues (like being in essence sort of gingerbread "tablet edition") and is worthless in the smartphone context.

Again, Andy Rubin at D: Dive into the mobile said the focus was on tablet but that the new views/pane could be adapted to phones.
That being said wouldn't be to surprise if we have to wait until Google I/O for some of this eyecandy on cell phones.
Oh and Gtalk Video is there...

Honeycomb looks great. I agree that "designed for tablets" its good marketing. They can play the angle that the ipad was based on a phone OS & Honeycomb has been built for the ground up with tablets in mind.
My guess (or atleast what I hope) is that Google will announce Honeycomb for phones as well. They would share the same UI just with one designed for smaller screens in mind. Ideally the phone OS wouldn't need the dual core processing (so fragmentation doesn't kick in). And this way both tablets and phones share the same platform making it a bit easier for developers. Ofcourse this is just the way I am dreaming things up but it does make a bit of sense with Google making Gingerbread 2.4 after all the initial speculation that it would be 3.0. It makes me wonder if Gingerbread was rushed in order to get the next Nexus flagship phone out before the holidays.

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They can play the angle that the ipad was based on a phone OS & Honeycomb has been built for the ground up with tablets in mind
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Sure the markets will play that angle I'm sure. Of course the reality is that the iPad was actually designed before the iPhone. So the iPhone is using a tablet OS, not the other way around!

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Honeycomb looks great. I agree that "designed for tablets" its good marketing. They can play the angle that the ipad was based on a phone OS & Honeycomb has been built for the ground up with tablets in mind.
My guess (or atleast what I hope) is that Google will announce Honeycomb for phones as well. They would share the same UI just with one designed for smaller screens in mind. Ideally the phone OS wouldn't need the dual core processing (so fragmentation doesn't kick in). And this way both tablets and phones share the same platform making it a bit easier for developers.
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Provided el goog did not invent any new kind of wheel, I think it is quite safe to assume, that honeycomb "tablet edition" changes are geared to support those new additional screen layouts typical to the tablets.
Like currently developer can define several different layouts, for example one for portrait and one for landscape, screen form factor, docking state, night/day mode etc.
So, there will be additional modes for tablets. And additional UI controls utilizing those modes.
Then google will need to modify all the system apps, I think this makes the most of the honeycomb overhead. To do it properly it is by far not enough to "inflate" your present smartphone apps. Samsung already hacked this into the most of the apps shipped with galaxy tab.
It is actually quite boring if you look at it from the smartphone point of view. More like the new UI skin if at all.

only (put your curse here) would presume Google is ditching the mobile phones to tablets by providing new 'cool' updates to tablets and let the phones rot. almost every person has a phone not every person has a tablet or planning on getting one. Not very good for Google business, so they won't keep (put any Android version here) exclusive to a certain platform.

So this means that Gingerbread 2.3 will remain the flagship OS for phones till the year end or will the Dual Core Motorola Atrix & Optimus 2X can have 3.0 sometime later

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So this means that Gingerbread 2.3 will remain the flagship OS for phones till the year end or will the Dual Core Motorola Atrix & Optimus 2X can have 3.0 sometime later
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No. All this means is that 3.0 will be shipping on some tablets in a few months. We don't yet know anything about Android releases for phones beyond Gingerbread.

damn right it looks great!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CenYofDGwoU
edit: thank god that now the confusion that many have regarding the difference between "gingerbread" and "android 3.0" will be cleared up. yes, there are folks like that :eek

Perhaps facets of the UI are Tablet only.
What a stupid thing it would be to fragment Android even further.
Nice UI..BB Playbook task switching still is miles ahead in terms of wow factor and ease of switching.
The apps themselves look great. Once again I have great fear of these 3d aspects bogging things like the Froyo Gallery.
If it doesnt load at lightning speed they will be guilty of overshooting the programming for available HW.
I cant see that UI running smoothly on any current phone including the Nexus S.

The real question, which has yet to have a definitive answer, is when can i actually buy something that runs this?!

Its safe to say that I will be picking up a tablet with Honeycomb this year.

3.0 honeycomb?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4NqT6u_ODk
Any chance we will see this on our devices not in the near future but in the furure?

3.0 is intended for tablet use...there may be a port...but no intention for handset use.

General??????

mastibeta said:
3.0 is intended for tablet use...there may be a port...but no intention for handset use.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/android-3-0-honeycomb-emulator-has-traces-of-smartphone-support
supposed to have smart phone support

by the time 3.0 hits (if ever) the fascinate you and i both will be on a diff phone
just happy to have 2.2

Are you a developer? Are you releasing something? Are you requesting a feature for development?
No, no, and no. Go back to general. Your post is not only inflammatory by virtue of the fact that you're asking about something that's two releases away (and technically not even out yet!) but also in the wrong section.
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Honeycomb probably won't make it to devices, since it's intended for tablets.
Ice Cream is the version of Android we would want. It comes after Honeycomb (obviously..) and is the honeycomb UI intended for smart phones.

If anything, next up would be any version updates (2.2.1+) to Froyo. After that, it would probably be an excrutiatingly slow wait for 2.3.x (Gingerbread). The fact that modders keep pressing forward with ROMs & kernels does help considerably though.

Android continuously feels like the girl that is just out of my league, the next version is always everything that I wanted but it feels like ill never get it. Oh well, maybe next phone.

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Android continuously feels like the girl that is just out of my league, the next version is always everything that I wanted but it feels like ill never get it. Oh well, maybe next phone.
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I got that girl...now we live together, puppy...no ring yet. dreams can come true!
Mmmmm...Froyo!

Slow down chief. We just got Froyo We should be complaining about not having Gingerbread before we start discussing Honeycomb or Ice Cream... Also sentences with the words "near future" and "our devices" don't make sense.

Wow, I'm continually amazed at the lack of some to be content or understand the climate of the forums here.
There are threads saying stop posting where's the froyo... This doesn't mean post where's the honeycomb yo?
Please stop the madness...

As everyone has said, this question is ridiculously premature to say the least.
But that said, to those saying "Honeycomb isn't for phones!": That's simply not true. Google execs have said Honeycomb will run on phones in the past, and they talked about how apps will run on both Honeycomb phones and tablets during today's event.
http://pocketnow.com/android/matias-duarte-gives-glimpse-of-android-honeycomb-on-phones
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-20030465-265.html

Seriously, this thread did nothing to aid in development. This belongs in general.
It just makes it harder for members to sort through to actual roms and development.
Whether or not honeycomb will come to this phone is up to the developers who will have to port it for this phone. If they are willing, you will have it. But requesting this will get you nothing.

bycoo222 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/android-3-0-honeycomb-emulator-has-traces-of-smartphone-support
supposed to have smart phone support
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That's just an emulator. I would still think it's Tablet only. http://www.examiner.com/gadgets-in-san-jose/google-android-3-0-will-be-available-only-for-tablets
An emulator would have all possible options.

you scream i scream we all scream for....

ICE CREAM!
is anyone else excited to have ICS (ice cream sandwich) on their xoom?
maybe then will we get some more rom development (props to team tiamat for pwning motorola so far!)
just thought id get the conversation going

Sadly i still don't have the 3.2 update but excited for the ice cream sandwhich? Sure Why not =P
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All for one and one OS for all is what I say!
Majin101 said:
Sadly i still don't have the 3.2 update but excited for the ice cream sandwhich? Sure Why not =P
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You should be excited! From 3.1 to 3.2 is not too much of a huge changelog. Main updates included the zoom feature, and the SD card read but not write. Now, from 3.2 to the alleged 4.0 ICS... that's another story! That's a HUGE update in terms of software development. So much will be added and improved... it's the real update to look forward to, especially since ICS will unite the phone and tablet into one super high quality OS that both will share and work together with. That makes compatibility issues much less complicated. All for one and one OS for all!
I for one, am super excited for ice cream!

i just hope it allows data sharing between the same directories. Like, if I play a game for a bit on my tablet, it updates my phone with my progress.

patass said:
i just hope it allows data sharing between the same directories. Like, if I play a game for a bit on my tablet, it updates my phone with my progress.
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The ability to store settings and data on the cloud was actually added in Android 2.2, few developers use it, unfortunately.
(In fairness the API is kind of wretched)

I gave up on expecting an update for the xoom
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Android's strength was that of fragmentation - different phones coming in different sizes with different hardware.
However this is also Android's weakness as developers have to test on a larger number of devices (and we all know it's financially impossible to own all devices).
With ICS this should level the playing field with Apple - we should then see some new apps coming in for the tabs (and phones!).

patass said:
i just hope it allows data sharing between the same directories. Like, if I play a game for a bit on my tablet, it updates my phone with my progress.
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ZanshinG1 said:
The ability to store settings and data on the cloud was actually added in Android 2.2, few developers use it, unfortunately.
(In fairness the API is kind of wretched)
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I am sure I read Rovio of angry Birds fame was trying to get some sort of save-data-in-the-cloud style transfer between devices...

Gorship said:
ICE CREAM!
is anyone else excited to have ICS (ice cream sandwich) on their xoom?
maybe then will we get some more rom development (props to team tiamat for pwning motorola so far!)
just thought id get the conversation going
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Wait.... so is the XOOM going to get ICS? like OTA?

Lothaen said:
I am sure I read Rovio of angry Birds fame was trying to get some sort of save-data-in-the-cloud style transfer between devices...
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That would be a welcome addition. Using Titanium to sync my progress is kinda bulky.

burden010 said:
That would be a welcome addition. Using Titanium to sync my progress is kinda bulky.
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Yes it would indeed!
phone <-> tablet is a pain
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Wait.... so is the XOOM going to get ICS? like OTA?
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We hope so - it was demo'd on a Xoom for I/O so I imagine it will - they'll probably be a 'Nexus' type device or other GED out for it - but Xoom will probably get it second (US Xoom).

Yeah i wish the could idea would work for game saves i HATE that i have to root just to get my save files to back them up in case anything happens. And i pray with ICS read and write is enabled for the SD card.

Just-in-time said:
Yeah i wish the could idea would work for game saves i HATE that i have to root just to get my save files to back them up in case anything happens. And i pray with ICS read and write is enabled for the SD card.
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they should introduce an sdcard/gamesave/ directory or something and have all gamesaves copied into that folder...

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they should introduce an sdcard/gamesave/ directory or something and have all gamesaves copied into that folder...
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That would be a bad idea because it would extremely limited where games can save data, and encryption would be more difficult. Plus old games would have to be updated
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the interesting thing is; they are compiting with the apple (according to me apple is compiting with them but still, as compainies it is the goal), and i believe this is why apple and android have the same date of releasing the ew sowtfare; the 4th quarter of 2011..
however apple has introduced the software, the new videos and betas are everywhere but there is no sign of ice cream sandwich yet.. this is risky because since we have no referance point to set our dreams we can dream whatever we want and this leads us to dissappointment in the end because there is no way to guess what they are doing..
so, i guess i am ready for a dissappointment and being suprised at the same time.. i have high hopes for ICS but i am trying to accept my device with honeycomb already and telling myself i did not buy it for ICS..
really, i have been asking to myself; "what kind of software are we dreaming of"? there are android devices with 600 mhz qualcomm cpus and quadcore devices are on the way.. how can they share the same software? there is only one example for that in the history; apple again.. apple updated the iphone 3g last time but they did not put multitasking and menu background due to the performance limitations..
and the other question is; "what kind of changes are coming for us"? android users are more professionals generally, but still i want some UI improvements.. i do not like my app icons are forced to be close only in the middle of the screen.. i want a menu which gives me the impression of wideness, so i will not feel i am drowning in the screen..

>but there is no sign of ice cream sandwich yet..
I skimmed through the 51-min I/O presentation to glean the major upcoming features of Android. The big thing are cloud features (video & music everywhere) which are rolling out independent of the OS. Even for cloud fans, these aren't a big deal, since similar options are available elsewhere. Mentioned in passing was an app-abstraction layer so apps can run seamlessly on any form factor. A "mini-big" deal, but already assumed since ICS is supposed to unify different screen sizes.
The Open Accessory initiative could be a big deal, but again that's not tied to the OS. I looked up "android open accessory" for 3rd-party announcements, and there were zip. The safe bet is if anything were to happen on this front, it'll be next year. Hopefully, it'll fare better than the GoogleTV effort. Logitech is learning the hard way that not all is golden in Android land.
The pie-in-the-sky stuff shown is the @Home initiative (I'm wondering if they had to pay AT&T to license that moniker, since [email protected] was acquired by Ma Bell a while back). It's the old Internet-appliance spiel rehashed and reclothed to Android skin. Judging from the applause level, most peeps in the audience were about as excited as I was.
So, the conservative projection (always a good idea) is that ICS will be what it was announced to be, one OS for all form factors. As explicitly mentioned, it will have the same hologram motif as the present HC, only that now your smartphone can run it as well. Any additional functionality beyond this will likely be minor, else it would've been mentioned. If you're wondering what's "minor," take as a benchmark that cam headtracking made the fit-to-be-announced cut.
Personally, the magic words I was looking for were "peripheral support," or "device support." MIA. I know, kinda boring. I like boring stuff, like using my scanners and printers and cams.
Anyway, I'm happy that 3.2 is out and about at least. That'll allow the 7" toys to show up this year, which is my preferred size. Looking forward to Sept to see what Win8 will have up its sleeve.

Oops, I left out one big feature for ICS, probably the biggest: unlike HC, it will be open-sourced.
Now, I'm sure ROM'ers will all rejoice, and I'm rooting (get it?) on CM8. But my biggest cheers are reserved for those poor bereft Shenzhen souls left out in the cold. YES! THERE'LL BE CRAPPY EL-CHEAPOLA ICS TABLETS AT LAST! ahahaah lemme check DealExtreme again..

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Oops, I left out one big feature for ICS, probably the biggest: unlike HC, it will be open-sourced.
Now, I'm sure ROM'ers will all rejoice, and I'm rooting (get it?) on CM8. But my biggest cheers are reserved for those poor bereft Shenzhen souls left out in the cold. YES! THERE'LL BE CRAPPY EL-CHEAPOLA ICS TABLETS AT LAST! ahahaah lemme check DealExtreme again..
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lol

Google doesn't care about tablets

With the release of Ice Cream comes the "merger" of the Android OS. One OS for both tablets and phones. But Google isn't quite that interested in tablets right now, it wants to work more at developing phones with it's acquired Motorola and partnership with Samsung. And with good reason.
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/20/tech/...ablets-wired/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn

all speculation

I agree with rmxo it is all speculation, to be fair I can see how tablets are less lucrative than phones. People seem to think google is something more than a business.
Not that I wouldn't like to see ICS on the galaxy tab I suspect this awesome community will a get ics rom cooked before an official tab build gets released.
I actually think samsung should be on googles back regarding ics on the tab.

That's bull****. If Google didn't "care about tablets", they wouldn't have spent millions on Honeycomb development, risked alienating the user base by locking up source code, etc.
They care a great deal about tablets. They just weren't ready for tablets at the same time the manufacturers were ready to start making them.
There's a big difference.

the article's author's opinion is really biased imo...
so.. nah... if Google decides to do this which imo won't happen... they are pissing a lot of people off...
if google doesn't care about tablets... why bother making ICS 1280x720 as a default resolution?

Ridiculous. In terms of development, you focus on phones because it is a larger market, but failing to see the rise of the next big mass media device (tablets) is not the problem Google has here. They simply are saying, right now, we are focusing on bringing the tablet experience to phones. They are making development on both platforms more efficient with single dev on ICS. Tablets likely weren't talked big because really, ICS is HC for phones AND tablets. And although it brings more features that HC does not have, it is more or less HC at it's core experience.

Asus already announced the Transformer Prime and original transformer will have ICS by end of Dec.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI
Asus Transformer - 3.2 Revolver

Why did you post this here? It's pure speculation by one tech analyst, and has basically nothing to do with this forum.

Stupid article. Sometimes these tech writers have to make logic leaps to justify a story.
At first i thought it was curious that they didnt even mention tablets. Then it started to make sense.
1, this was a samsung and google event. It was supposed to highlight ICS and samsung's latest and greatest hardware. Showing a prototype Xoom would have taken away from samsung and you cant do that.
2, this was also google's opportunity to counter iOS 5. Sorta phone vs. phone. Ipad 3 is on the horizon and why would Google show their cards this early in the game. ICS is ready for tablets but I'm sure there will be a more advanced version released in a few months (around the time Ipad3 shows up) that will add new features.

I'm tired of "journalists" who write articles full of speculation and opinion and then arrive at some concrete 'conclusion' based on nothing but whatever thoughts flitted between their ears. Perhaps it's just me, but it seems like the vast majority of "technology journalists" are brain-dead iJobs fanboys looking to grind an axe and make Android as unattractive to the masses as they possibly can. It's like they're all part of some out-of-control confirmation bias machine, seeking to stroke each other's ego for their intelligence and good taste in selecting the latest iToy.
Unrelated: my wife who is deeply embedded in the Apple ecosystem was ready to throw her iPhone 4 against a wall last night when she realised that editing a contact record is disabled by default on iOS 5. Seriously, she had to dive into phone settings to enable the ability to add a phone number to an existing contact. WTF.
(please excuse my mini-rant, I have a cold and am medicating with a cocktail of OTC goodness)
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what's a tablet?
What's a tablet? Is a 5" screen device a tablet? Like for example the galaxy note? Is the Nexus Prime a bit of a tablet? No, maybe? The Galaxy Note with it's 5"+ screen is definitely almost a tablet. It has a split screen design of the software when turning the device in landscape. So it is running definitely tablet like software.
The boundary between tablets and phones isn't clear cut. And in the future the boundary will become more vague. For Android that is. That's why they focused with ICS on a sort of OS that will run on both "tablets" and "phones". From that perspective one can say that tablets are equally well supported as phones.
Here's an interesting interview with Rubin http://allthingsd.com/20111019/andy-rubin-video-highlights-from-asiad-video/ In it Androids position on tablets is very clearly explained. They just want to make an OS that supports all screensizes. (Btw Rubin says they sold 6 million tablets.. that's like 100% more than what the CNN article says)
I don't necessarily agree with Rubin's position on this, but at least it is a interesting one Again, what's a tablet anyway for a mobile operating system? A phone with a big screen? (Without calling abilities)
The strategy seems that Google is leaving it to hardware manufacturers if they want to support tablets. The software is ready for it.
My only question with this strategy is if Google can trigger developers enough to make specific outstanding tablet software. They expect developers to target all screensizes. And with the new ICS this is possible and easy. So that's okay. Nevertheless, for a developer who only wants to target the tablet because his design only fits on a tablet this won't work. Either s/he has to make a poor small screen implementation of his software or s/he sticks to a tablet only version. But the last decision will only work if they make a clear cut separation on the Android market. But then they have to make a separation after all.....

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They care a great deal about tablets. They just weren't ready for tablets at the same time the manufacturers were ready to start making them.
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I agree with this part...and that's why we ended up with betas

I think it would be cool if devs made apps that would scale up and have a tablet UI if the app is downloaded on a tablet and scale down and have a phone ui if its on a phone. Yeah it would be annoying to make 2 ui but its better than making 2 apps when trying to promote your app.
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Serious_Beans said:
I think it would be cool if devs made apps that would scale up and have a tablet UI if the app is downloaded on a tablet and scale down and have a phone ui if its on a phone. Yeah it would be annoying to make 2 ui but its better than making 2 apps when trying to promote your app.
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In my experience, most well written apps already scale quite well the way you want already. However, it's really up to the devs because some of them may want to make a bit more money by having two separate apps (a phone one and a tablet / HD one).

Serious_Beans said:
I think it would be cool if devs made apps that would scale up and have a tablet UI if the app is downloaded on a tablet and scale down and have a phone ui if its on a phone. Yeah it would be annoying to make 2 ui but its better than making 2 apps when trying to promote your app.
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The question is if every tablet app can have a small screen counter app. One can't demand from developers that they (for example) design a great word processor for tablets and also create a mobile phone counterpart at once.
If the market won't have clear cut tablet sections in the future, I don't expect much tablets apps for the future. It's not worthwhile for a developer to invest in good tablet design if its app will be hidden in the market between the "scalable apps"

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The question is if every tablet app can have a small screen counter app. One can't demand from developers that they (for example) design a great word processor for tablets and also create a mobile phone counterpart at once.
If the market won't have clear cut tablet sections in the future, I don't expect much tablets apps for the future. It's not worthwhile for a developer to invest in good tablet design if its app will be hidden in the market between the "scalable apps"
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True. That's why I like the way Apple has structured their market -- iPad only / iPhone only / iPad+iPhone (with that '+' sign to indicate such apps).
The new Android market does provide recommendations specifically for tablets though.

True. That's why I like the way Apple has structured their market -- iPad only / iPhone only / iPad+iPhone (with that '+' sign to indicate such apps).
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You see thats the **** part about apple strategy.
Why should I pay twice for the same app?
best example angry birds.
Its perfectly playable on android phones and tablets and most importantly we have it for free or 99p/$
on iDevices you pay for the same app twice just so it looks a little bit better on the iPad than iPhone.
If you think about it. If Apple releases new iPad with higher resolution all iBoys will have to buy the app again..
I think best example of how Android market (and apps) should be is by looking at apps like Flixter or IMDB

Ugh I should of never got this tab, I love android I really disapointed.
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MattSkeet said:
You see thats the **** part about apple strategy.
Why should I pay twice for the same app?
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AFAIK, Apple leaves it up to the developer -- there are several apps which you can buy once and they will work on both the iPad and iPhone at the appropriate resolution for each device (the ones with the '+' sign indicated). However, there are developers who would rather make you buy two different versions instead.
So I don't know if it's fair to blame Apple (or Google) for separate tablet / phone apps. However, Google is to be blamed for not making it easy to determine which apps will function correctly on tablets (and quite a few don't).
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iloveandroid16 said:
Ugh I should of never got this tab, I love android I really disapointed.
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Out of curiosity, what is it about Android that you love and is not present on the tablet?