According to engadget. Looks like it won't be too much longer now . I'm guessing early nov.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/15/galaxy-s-android-2-2-froyo-update-begins-to-trickle-out/
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According to engadget. Looks like it won't be too much longer now . I'm guessing early nov.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/15/galaxy-s-android-2-2-froyo-update-begins-to-trickle-out/
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That's great and all but we're on Sprint, remember? I expect to have this by mid-February/March.
(sorry, couldn't resist)
Good news. Can't wait to see it. Would love to just use stock TW 3.0 to speed up my phone (ADW slows it down a bit.)
Considering GingerBread is supposed to drop next week some time....this really kind of blows. We really need a good CM6 then 7!
I can't remember exactly but I think Hero didn't get the 2.1 update until after code dropped for FroYo...Sucks being a version behind. And considering track record its the only OS Update we will see official. I highly doubt we will actually get GingerBread from Samsung/Sprint.
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Considering GingerBread is supposed to drop next week some time....this really kind of blows. We really need a good CM6 then 7!
I can't remember exactly but I think Hero didn't get the 2.1 update until after code dropped for FroYo...Sucks being a version behind. And considering track record its the only OS Update we will see official. I highly doubt we will actually get GingerBread from Samsung/Sprint.
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I agree. Everyone getting their hopes up for Gingerbread for the Galaxy S phones, I think are setting themselves up for a big let down. I haven't seen any phone (besides Droid and N1) receive more than 1 official update. And considering Samsung's update history, I definitely don't see them supporting this phone beyond 2.2
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I agree. Everyone getting their hopes up for Gingerbread for the Galaxy S phones, I think are setting themselves up for a big let down. I haven't seen any phone (besides Droid and N1) receive more than 1 official update. And considering Samsung's update history, I definitely don't see them supporting this phone beyond 2.2
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Isn't Gingerbread geared to tablets anyways?
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Isn't Gingerbread geared to tablets anyways?
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Not just tablets - Just better than 2.1 was with large screens (over 4.5 inchs).
GingerBread should add native video calling, a new UI, and a few other surprises.
And suspected release of Google Music.
Hopefully the ball keeps rolling until it gets to Sprint. Post any rumors you hear on this thread so we can keep track of this "gradual" rollout.
I agree that its unlikely we will get anything after 2.2...it seems like every Android I buy this happens to me lol. Oh well
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i hope we will get beyond 2.2
lol maybe verizon has an agreement with google that only droids get support past froyo. Google and verizon are really close business partners and have almost colluded in other aspects of mobile markets.
Where in the heck are u guys getti.g this gingerbdead crap from
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Where in the heck are u guys getti.g this gingerbdead crap from
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I assume its the moment/hero skip from 2.0 to 2.1 but still took forever
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Where in the heck are u guys getti.g this gingerbdead crap from
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I believe the reports for gingerbread are 4th quarter of 2010. That's probably why everyone thinks it's coming soon. Other gingerbread info was from the last IO (they showed the music player streaming music from cloud) and just general quotes from google engineers about trying to get rid of carrier skins and what not.
Having said all that, didn't they just hire that webOS designer a few months ago? He's supposedly the lead designer for gingerbread, so could it really be coming in q4?
As for support, i think it'll be awhile but it will be supported. I feel like sammy has to support the galaxy line at this point w/ their 5 million handsets sold and the imminent galaxy tab (which they already stated will have gingerbread at some point). This is my first sammy phone and it's pretty apparent people have gotten burned by them in the past, but it would be a customer relations nightmare if they did this w/ the galaxy line.
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Gingerbread supports large screens which suppose to go on tablet pads...I dunno where they get the idea that its gonna come out for phones
Maybe it will be a good reason to upgrade galaxy s phones because of the name similarities, now whether they have any similar parts inside I doubt but kind of gives us some of that 'hope' it will come out for phones also.
They have a development center here in Irvine, ca..... I will mission impossible into the facility and retrieve the release date in the laser protected vault room.
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Very pleased to see we are getting froyo on epic cannot wait for flash support hopefully. Can use hulu again like winmo
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Gingerbread supports large screens which suppose to go on tablet pads...I dunno where they get the idea that its gonna come out for phones
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Actually it will be released with phones that have a 1Ghz Processing chip and at least 3.5 inch screen or larger.
Google themselves stated that gingerbread will require ATLEAST the N1's specs bare minimum. I read that a LOOOOOONG time ago though so idk...
But ayways, sammys rep for the tab mentioned honeycomb...
What if honeycomb is the start for android tablet OS and gingerbread is the continuation for the phone os?
I mean, tink about it...honeycomb isn't a sweet snack...atleast one that I know of...
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I mean, tink about it...honeycomb isn't a sweet snack...atleast one that I know of...
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Honeycomb is both a delicious treat as well as a continuation of the alphabetical nomenclature Google has chosen for their OS's. If they were going to branch off and make a separate lineage for tablets alone, I doubt they would interrupt their alphabetical naming scheme for phone based OS' to do it.
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Honeycomb is both a delicious treat as well as a continuation of the alphabetical nomenclature Google has chosen for their OS's. If they were going to branch off and make a separate lineage for tablets alone, I doubt they would interrupt their alphabetical naming scheme for phone based OS' to do it.
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Mmmmm honeycomb is delicious! I got a chunk of white chocolate covered honeycomb from a local confection shop and it was DELICIOUS.
But I agree.... I dont honestly believe that any of the Galaxy phones will get anything past 2.2.
By the time 2.2 is FINALLY pushed to all the galaxys, new and better phones will be out.
I've never seen ANY android that had more than 1 system upgrade that wasn't a leaked developer made upgrade.
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Ok so now that I've gotten your attention with the o' so "loud and in your face" title of this post, on to the main point. I'm REALLY dissapointed that samsung hasn't stepped up to the plate and included flash with the latest update, leaked or not, 2.1 or not. I'm tired of having to use that piece o' crap skyfire broweser that only works half the time on certain sites, and that's if I lucky. It seems to me that this phone may be destined for the veritable technological garbage dump that so many other phones have been. Samsung has yet to deliver on ANY of the promised fixes, including froyo, although maybe this leaked version of the update isn't the final one, and I'm starting to doubt if we'll EVER see froyo. Is anyone else as pissed off as me? All I know is I'm gonna boot my vibrant for a n1 if something doesn't happen soon. Sorry to any mods or users for the incoherent rant and/or cursing in the aforementioned post, I'm just venting.
Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh. Waaaaaaaaaaah
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Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh. Waaaaaaaaaaah
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh indeed.
They just launched the Fascinate, and now they have their phone on all carriers. Sure, it would have been great to have Froyo by now, or launch the Fascinate with Froyo, but I don't think they'd want to fragment their US Galaxy S so much. I'm sure it will come, especially now that all the phones are out. I have a feeling they are going to develop Froyo for all the Galaxy's at the same time. Whether the carriers decide to push out Froyo as soon as it's ready is another question.
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They just launched the Fascinate, and now they have their phone on all carriers. Sure, it would have been great to have Froyo by now, or launch the Fascinate with Froyo, but I don't think they'd want to fragment their US Galaxy S so much. I'm sure it will come, especially now that all the phones are out. I have a feeling they are going to develop Froyo for all the Galaxy's at the same time. Whether the carriers decide to push out Froyo as soon as it's ready is another question.
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I suppose ur right, and releasing froyo for all the galaxy s phones at the same time would make sense. Now I suppose the real question is, which is closer, cyanogenmod or an official froyo update from sammy?
Seriously I can understand peoples frustrations but venting on the forum isn't going to change a thing. The OTA for Froyo is speculated to be released in September and its still September isn't it? On that note it's only speculated not confirmed. People are in fact working on getting 2.2 to our phones not just Samsung, all I can say is be patient. If you don't want to be patient then shut up and get a G2 when its released if we don't have Froyo by then.
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Seriously I can understand peoples frustrations but venting on the forum isn't going to change a thing. The OTA for Froyo is speculated to be released in September and its still September isn't it? On that note it's only speculated not confirmed. People are in fact working on getting 2.2 to our phones not just Samsung, all I can say is be patient. If you don't want to be patient then shut up and get a G2 when its released if we don't have Froyo by then.
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point taken.
I feel you, but the the vibrant has to many pros to just give up on it right now its still early.... Its truly a powerfull device everytime I show a iphone fan boy this phone they give it props they cant hate on it
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1)Adobe has limited flash 10.1 to Android 2.2 phones only.
2)The Galaxy S line doesn't have Froyo yet.
3)You're an idiot.
i couldn't imagine frequenting enough flash sites on my laptop/desktop to make me want flash this badly on my mobile device...
Well I kinda understand the frustration in the OP as flash support means a lot more on the web. I miss watching news clips on CNN website and shows on Hulu on the gorgeous Vibrant screen. But I have no doubt about Samsung's commitment to Galaxy S especially after reading the results of leaked firmware. Instead of losing patience and shouting in forum I would wait for Sammy to roll out a stable Froyo update on this fantastic phone and then enjoy all the goodies. I am sure nobody still has question on whether Vibrant will get Froyo or not after seeing all those videos of european version running froyo. It may be September or October, but I can wait.
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Well I kinda understand the frustration in the OP as flash support means a lot more on the web. I miss watching news clips on CNN website and shows on Hulu on the gorgeous Vibrant screen. But I have no doubt about Samsung's commitment to Galaxy S especially after reading the results of leaked firmware. Instead of losing patience and shouting in forum I would wait for Sammy to roll out a stable Froyo update on this fantastic phone and then enjoy all the goodies. I am sure nobody still has question on whether Vibrant will get Froyo or not after seeing all those videos of european version running froyo. It may be September or October, but I can wait.
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yeah, i'll admit to being impatient, just one of my quirks i guess But yeah, flash means A LOT to me, and so would netflix as a matter of fact, but I digress. Anyway, I'll give it another month and see what happens, thank god I didn't buy my phone with a contract, even more plus all the way hehe.
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I'll give it another month and see what happens.
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Dont worry my friend....i have a good feeling that we wont be disapponted.
Flash does make the experience a whole heck of a lot better ..
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Ok so now that I've gotten your attention with the o' so "loud and in your face" title of this post, on to the main point. I'm REALLY dissapointed that samsung hasn't stepped up to the plate and included flash with the latest update, leaked or not, 2.1 or not. I'm tired of having to use that piece o' crap skyfire broweser that only works half the time on certain sites, and that's if I lucky. It seems to me that this phone may be destined for the veritable technological garbage dump that so many other phones have been. Samsung has yet to deliver on ANY of the promised fixes, including froyo, although maybe this leaked version of the update isn't the final one, and I'm starting to doubt if we'll EVER see froyo. Is anyone else as pissed off as me? All I know is I'm gonna boot my vibrant for a n1 if something doesn't happen soon. Sorry to any mods or users for the incoherent rant and/or cursing in the aforementioned post, I'm just venting.
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you sound like smashpunks. chill out
It hurts so much since the phone is so powerful, but it's like Samsung doesn't want to give it the one thing it truly needs to dominate the rest of the pack. I'm tired of seeing the Nexus 1 on the top of every benchmark when we all know the hummingbirds will eat those snapdragons for breakfast.
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It hurts so much since the phone is so powerful, but it's like Samsung doesn't want to give it the one thing it truly needs to dominate the rest of the pack. I'm tired of seeing the Nexus 1 on the top of every benchmark when we all know the hummingbirds will eat those snapdragons for breakfast.
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This image disagrees with you.
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Not to be an ass but, why don't you use the advanced version so we can see the CPU gain and not just the lagfix gain. The lagfix makes some things faster and other things slower...the original lagfix that is. I haven't used the voodoo one, so I can't comment on it. I know there is a CPU gain on yours as the most I've seen just with lagfix is in the 2200's. So I assume you have a different rom and/or OC'ing.
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Not necessarily. Your custom rom is on top, but a stock Galaxy S is still below a Nexus 1 running froyo. If we want to throw mods in the game, a custom N1 or Droid 2 may beat yours because they have froyo and you don't.
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1)Adobe has limited flash 10.1 to Android 2.2 phones only.
2)The Galaxy S line doesn't have Froyo yet.
3)You're an idiot.
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1. if you're on this forum, you should know, you can use flash 10.1 on android 2.1 phones, just limited to HTC ones
2. the galaxy s line does have hacked froyo on it, just look through the forums
3. idc about this comment
anyway, we'll get froyo soon enough, look at the evidence, it's been confirmed already, maybe not for a specific one in a specific country, but hey, once one country is out, others follow quick, besides, the galaxy tab, which is basically the same hardware as the galaxy s, runs froyo, it's probably the bug fixes thats taking them a while, be patient and you'll get it
edit: forgot to add, you can use skyfire, you got a galaxy s, skyfire will not lag at all, its a browser that has full flash capabilities, and actually the video button thing is better than having youtube playing a video straight out, at least you can control it that way, but yea, skyfire, look in tha market
Verizon just announced to today that Droid X is gonna be getting froyo on the 22nd of September. This really suck!!!! I need some froyo...
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Here you go, now quit whining froyo
that looks so ****ing good.
Verizon is also a much larger company.
Yes, Moto/Verizon do a great job..
If they r not using CDMA, I will definitely use Verizon and choose Moto..
jayprime said:
Verizon just announced to today that Droid X is gonna be getting froyo on the 22nd of September. This really suck!!!! I need some froyo...
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you mean the Droid x that was released before the vibrant is getting it first... I'm shocked...?....
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Verizon is also a much larger company.
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This is why t-mobile should tell manufacturers they only want vanilla android phones. They would get updates faster AND they wouldn't need to modify them before release. It would bee cheaper for them and it would make customers happy.
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you mean the Droid x that was released before the vibrant is getting it first... I'm shocked...?....
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Yes! This is so not right
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Tpavey said:
This is why t-mobile should tell manufacturers they only want vanilla android phones. They would get updates faster AND they wouldn't need to modify them before release. It would bee cheaper for them and it would make customers happy.
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That's all fine and wonderful, but the Galaxy S wasn't Vanilla on any of the four major US carriers so that doesn't really matter here does it?
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you mean the Droid x that was released before the vibrant is getting it first... I'm shocked...?....
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If I remember correctly, the Droid X, Vibrant, and Captivate had release dates that were within a week or two from each other.
Either way, it's pretty sad news to hear the Spain division of Samsung is now claiming the Froyo release to happen around "late October." I wonder what's really going to happen when late October rolls around...."late November?"
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/21/samsung-mobile-spain-pegs-galaxy-s-update-for-late-october/
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This is why t-mobile should tell manufacturers they only want vanilla android phones. They would get updates faster AND they wouldn't need to modify them before release. It would bee cheaper for them and it would make customers happy.
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It would hardly make customers happy. If T-Mobile were to deny every handset with a custom UI, they would have what, 2 Android phones? Maybe 3 since 2008?
T-Mobile has been ragged on in the past for being the carrier that never steps up to the plate to offer the latest and greatest phones. They are now starting to come out of that with all of these new Android phones and eventually later this year, Windows Phone 7. Why would they regress?
I think he is just trying to say that if T-Mobile insisted that devices be loaded with Vanilla Android than we could get updates faster, not to deny any of the handsets, just tell Samsung, "Hey, our Galaxy S phone needs to be Vanilla Android, Thanks"
So we would still get the killer phones, but with Vanilla Android rather than a custom Android that needs further development after Vanilla is released. (The Plausibility as to the phone manufacturers actually saying "Okay, no problem!" is debatable but I do believe that is what he is getting at.)
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That's all fine and wonderful, but the Galaxy S wasn't Vanilla on any of the four major US carriers so that doesn't really matter here does it?
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Actually, the Galaxy S OS has never been Vanila. It is modified and locked first by Samsung, then modified again at the behest of the US carriers.
It's basically a mess.
That's why it will take ages to update.
The whole Android open-source idea is being destroyed by both carriers and manufacturers, who modify it enough to be able to lock it and prevent software upgrades, so they can sell the next hardware version to the suckers.
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Actually, the Galaxy S OS has never been Vanila. It is modified and locked first by Samsung, then modified again at the behest of the US carriers.
It's basically a mess.
That's why it will take ages to update.
The whole Android open-source idea is being destroyed by both carriers and manufacturers, who modify it enough to be able to lock it and prevent software upgrades, so they can sell the next hardware version to the suckers.
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I've been seeing this opinion more and more and it makes me sad to think that the beautiful (yet idealistic) concept of Android is being corrupted. The OS being fragmented between devices and manufacturers bogging down amazing hardware with unnecessary crap has the potential to seriously harm Android imo.
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Actually, the Galaxy S OS has never been Vanila. It is modified and locked first by Samsung, then modified again at the behest of the US carriers.
It's basically a mess.
That's why it will take ages to update.
The whole Android open-source idea is being destroyed by both carriers and manufacturers, who modify it enough to be able to lock it and prevent software upgrades, so they can sell the next hardware version to the suckers.
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In the traditional sense, you are correct. However, Samsung has taken a different approach in regards to their Android offerings. I would hazard to say that it isn't actually "locked" by Samsung, as you put it. Maybe a little by T-Mobile.
However, Samsung has made it clear that they are supporting the development community. The source code for each US variant is available as a free download on their website. Rooting the device was intentionally left open by Samsung (although T-Mobile might lock it via updates). The carrier unlock codes are blatantly available on the device if you know where to look, and there is even an app that will give it to you for free with no effort. They have opened up multiple channels for support (Twitter, Facebook, phone, website) for it's users and even respond to development questions. I've even seen a couple of reports of Samsung support helping people out who have bricked devices.
In a sense, Samsung has become the most open Android handset manufacturer. Doesn't sound to me that Samsung has gone to great lengths to "lock" the Galaxy S out of development, as you put it.
I've read it a few times before about Froyo for the Vibrant not coming until the G2 is released, which isn't too far away. But then "rumor"(i know, rumors aren't always true), Samsung will release a Galaxy Slider phone and skip 2.2 for the Vibrant and push everyone to G2 or the new Galaxy phone.. I hope this isn't the case.
I think tmobile will release froyo after they see how the g2 does on the market... Because the vibrant is a beast without it, so just imagine what it will be like with it. The g2 might not do that great with vibrant running froyo... Imo
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I think tmobile will release froyo after they see how the g2 does on the market... Because the vibrant is a beast without it, so just imagine what it will be like with it. The g2 might not do that great with vibrant running froyo... Imo
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Two very different phones. G2 is going to be the next dev phone. Vanilla android. It will get the updates first. It will likely run MUCH faster than it's specs would indicate (see G1) because it will be optimized. Also, it has a keyboard.
Vibrant has a Samsung SAMOLED display and, currently, the fasted GPU out.
There may be fewer people who jump to the G2 from a Vibrant if it got Froyo now, but I cannot imagine it would impact those who don't have a Vibrant now. The majority of users really couldn't tell the difference, and many T-mobile sales reps in the stores wouldn't be able to inform them. The 1% of the Android community that comes here doesn't mean anything to T-mobile especially since these are likely the same people who optimize their bills to pay the least amount possible.
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I think tmobile will release froyo after they see how the g2 does on the market... Because the vibrant is a beast without it, so just imagine what it will be like with it. The g2 might not do that great with vibrant running froyo... Imo
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I doubt it, I don't even think Tmobile know that difference between Eclair and Froyo, they will just be confused as to why we are talking about deserts..
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I thought I read that Google was removing the ability (or restricting?) to customize Gingerbread when they release it, basically unifying the device platform across the board so if you had 3.0 or greater, it was all the same vanilla android without custom carrier and/or device modifications. If that is the case, than obviously even Google has seen the butchery of their original concept and are looking to rectify it. (End User's would still be able to mod the hell out of it I'm sure, but they wouldn't allow device Manufacturers and carriers to modify the OS right from the get go).
I could be wrong, I have read a lot of stuff lately lol...
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January!
We are talking about sprint and samsung here. Tha'ts like a double whammy!
If its not out by end of this month, my epic is going to be sold on craigslist, or ill ***** at sprint until they call the cops or switch the phone out. Samsung is really getting on my last nerve. I don't give a **** if its the fastest phone out if it doesn't have the os that is about to be old again in a month. Its like running windows xp on a bad ass computer when windows 7 is out, but you can't get the update, no direct x 10 for you.
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I have been hearing about this, but what makes this so great?
lol ive been through this before with sprint..took forever to release the 2.1 update for the hero..by the time the epic gets froyo the next version will probably be out..that really sucks to have such a high end device and always be one and two steps behind the lead os version
IN general no matter what OEM, it will take forever to get the update. Kind of the crappy thing about Android phones with so many consecutive releases. Google said they would slow down after this next release....
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IN general no matter what OEM, it will take forever to get the update. Kind of the crappy thing about Android phones with so many consecutive releases. Google said they would slow down after this next release....
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They better, this is getting out of hand.
I just wish Sprint/Verizon/etc all just used a standardized Android, that way Google could roll out updates like any other Linux distribution. But NO, that'd be WAY too easy, it'd put tons of programmers out of a job because of how simple it would be.
Its all google fault for being too fast trying to achieve the best OS in the world.
Shame on you google!!
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Honestly i dont really care, it will come when it comes. Im not really in need of it anyway i mean then ill have to wait for a new root for 2.2 and all my mods being able to work on 2.2 especially mobile ap. I mean all froyo is giving us is apps2sd and flash and i hardly use my phone for flash and apps2sd will be nice but not like im running out of room.
But i say late November.
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I have been hearing about this, but what makes this so great?
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Maybe people missed this.
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I wouldn't expect it until December 1st at the earliest.
The November 11th is just the date it'll get released to carriers from Samsung.
Sprint still has to add their software, gimp it up, add a few bugs, and test it for weeks.
I like the Epic, but the 2.2 delay is a bit irritating.
Why is this so great?
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Why is this so great?
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Reasons:
1. Android Market Applications - As applications begin to adopt 2.2-only features, and Devs don't support 2.1, applications won't show up on Epics anymore. The reason Android fragmentation is dreaded.
2. Apps2SD - The Epic only has 512Mb of app storage. My phone is getting full....
3. ROM ports - Most ROMs are developed on 2.2 in other platforms. With a 2.2-supported kernel, ROM ports from other phones will be easier to create (as well as CM ROM, since CM is 2.2).
4. Adobe Flash support.
5. YouTube HD (2.2 only)
6. Dalvik JIT Compiler (speeds up applications _a lot_... this probably belongs at #1). We had 2.2 on the HTC Touch xv6900 since about June, huge performance boost.
So far this poll has a very small sample return. Nevertheless it is disconcerting to see that, as of this writing, well over 50 percent think Froyo will be deployed on the Epic in November.
This is amazing, since Samsung has only promised that Froyo would come to U.S. Galaxy S variants in general sometime before the end of the year, and Sprint has made no more optimistic a prediction.
If this poll shows anything, it is that many or most readers here are setting themselves up for a bitter disappointment. Expect a lot of rants around Nov. 30, when we probably will still be waiting.
We will get it when other phones start getting 2.3
Froyo's going to slow the browser down, just wait!
On the other hand, I am looking forward to some of the other features it brings... but it's really not going to make that much difference in the performance of the device. It'll get here eventually. Just because it's taking a while is not an excuse to sell your phone.
Meh. I can wait.
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I have the YouTube from Froyo.. came with mah ROM. :shrug:
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This isn't a rant or anything, or I won't try to make it one. But I just came across on Android Central that the Droid is getting 2.2.1.
Now this is just so depressing already that we have a phone that's been out for about 5 months now and haven't seen Froyo (only in Unoffical leaked builds). The Droid has been out far longer, I know that. But Samsung is really dragging their feet. Froyo offically, when it comes out, better knock our ****ing socks off or it was a waste of time to wait for them to deliver.
I'm just saying, this just makes Samsung look that much worse.
http://www.androidcentral.com/leaked-android-221-motorola-droid-frg83
so you complain about our leaked ROMs by posting about another phones LEAKED ROM?
Dude... just flash froyo. They are daily drivers and quit posting the same stuff.
The leaked FroYo build is knocking my socks off...
Just sayin'
s15274n said:
so you complain about our leaked ROMs by posting about another phones LEAKED ROM?
Dude... just flash froyo. They are daily drivers and quit posting the same stuff.
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I didn't mean to bash or knock it. There's nothing wrong with the builds, it'd be nice to have an official build though I guess..
Okay, but is it not ironic you started your non-rant post stating that the Droid was getting 2.1.1 and how it looks bad for Samsung, but you completely ignored the fact it ALSO was a leaked build?
Just let it die..
s15274n said:
Okay, but is it not ironic you started your non-rant post stating that the Droid was getting 2.1.1 and how it looks bad for Samsung, but you completely ignored the fact it ALSO was a leaked build?
Just let it die..
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K, I'm done.
presence06 said:
The Droid has been out far longer, I know that. But Samsung is really dragging their feet. Froyo offically, when it comes out, better knock our ****ing socks off or it was a waste of time to wait for them to deliver.
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There's really no debate that Samsung is WAY behind here. Yes. the Droid has been out way longer, but the Incredible and Droid X haven't and they've gotten Froyo a long time ago. Incredible got it around 8/30 and X around 9/21.
Assuming that Samsung does get it out this year, that puts them anywhere from 2-4 months behind the competition, depending on when they do finally release it.
That's really bad. Sure they didn't promise 2.2 at any particular time, but that doesn't mean I don't factor it in when making my next phone purchase. I hope everyone does. If not, it'll give the manufactures even more reason to withhold updates in the future and try to push new phones instead.
Just heard from Cyanogen's twitter that CM6 is finished for the G2. I'm sure the new my touch isn't far behind.
Depressing
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s15274n said:
Okay, but is it not ironic you started your non-rant post stating that the Droid was getting 2.1.1 and how it looks bad for Samsung, but you completely ignored the fact it ALSO was a leaked build?
Just let it die..
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Yeah, but you seem to be ignoring the fact that the Droid already HAS an official Froyo, and the leaked build is a second generation update.
The Vibrant does NOT have an official build, and the way it's going, the Droid X may have Gingerbread before we get an official Froyo build.
How can you even begin to defend Samsung?
Yes, it is "just" another Froyo post. +1 Ignore!
~SB
Geez, people, of course Samsung is going to be behind. Motorola's and HTC's phones all have the same OMAP and Snapdragon cores they've used from the first Droid and Nexus One. No wonder they've all gone to Froyo before Samsung.
How many phones used the Hummingbird before the Galaxy S line? None. But I'll bet you that future updates will come faster now they've got Froyo figured out.
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Kubernetes said:
Geez, people, of course Samsung is going to be behind. Motorola's and HTC's phones all have the same OMAP and Snapdragon cores they've used from the first Droid and Nexus One. No wonder they've all gone to Froyo before Samsung.
How many phones used the Hummingbird before the Galaxy S line? None. But I'll bet you that future updates will come faster now they've got Froyo figured out.
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LOL....
Strange reasoning, since Samsung developed the chip themselves, so they should know it better. Plus, they've had a long time to figure Froyo out. And still haven't, officially.
MacGuy2006 said:
LOL....
Strange reasoning, since Samsung developed the chip themselves, so they should know it better. Plus, they've had a long time to figure Froyo out. And still haven't, officially.
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Designing the chip and modifying the software to work with the hardware are two different things. Just because you know the hardware, doesn't mean it's easy to make the software work with it nicely.
Only thing wrong with these threads is they are always full of hearsay. Rarely anyone states fact, just opinion. Who says sammy is holding it back? The leak came from tmo right? this pessimistic view is what makes ppl always have that "omg I have froyo & I hate it, its not perfect.... I want gingerbread" mentality. Life lesson, you'll never be happy with this attitude.
I, myself, try to look at the recent events of the "rumoured nexus s" that engadget posted pics. If this does happen to grace the GS community think of how fast, far, & easily we may make it to 2.3! Im no tech & I may be way off, but id like to think that this would give us the OPEN "NEXUS" development base we'd need to achieve that level of vanilla android base w/ drivers, code & hopefully working gps ;j (minus the new chipset, obviously).
Just be glad that we do have devs who do what they can & hope that sammy doesn't do anything else to screw us. I will be hoping (but not holding my breathe) for a nexus $ gingerbread port.
DKYang said:
Designing the chip and modifying the software to work with the hardware are two different things. Just because you know the hardware, doesn't mean it's easy to make the software work with it nicely.
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Exactly. Remember that Froyo was actually built for the Snapdragon, whereas most of the GS hardware is unlike that seen in other previous phones.
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If theres a leaked froyo it means Samsung has fine their part. Its up to tmo to push it out.
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DKYang said:
Designing the chip and modifying the software to work with the hardware are two different things. Just because you know the hardware, doesn't mean it's easy to make the software work with it nicely.
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Apple doesn't seem to have any problems with doing this. Samsung is way bigger. They should have their crap together
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Apple doesn't seem to have any problems with doing this. Samsung is way bigger. They should have their crap together
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Yey but we get to modify the crap out of one of the fastest phones with one of the best screens, and do whatever we want with it, thanks to some great sharing devs, to a device that's almost un- brickable.
Now thats fun!
Apple crapple, great form and simply reliable yet unbendable device to buy all things Apple dollars via only iTunes. No thanks. I'll take what Samsung doesn't have together.
Yes I've complained before but now I have learned a bit more and I have Froyo.
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How come none of the people that rant about not having an official Froyo release remember that 1. we have they best hardware of any phone out, I can't recall how many times I've heard owners of other phones complain that they've run out of room for their apps because they only have 2gb internal storage, and 2. this site is XDA Developers not XDA stock software release news. If you want to rant about the official release go over to the T-Mobile or Samsung forums and do it.
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Yey but we get to modify the crap out of one of the fastest phones with one of the best screens, and do whatever we want with it, thanks to some great sharing devs, to a device that's almost un- brickable.
Now thats fun!
Apple crapple, great form and simply reliable yet unbendable device to buy all things Apple dollars via only iTunes. No thanks. I'll take what Samsung doesn't have together.
Yes I've complained before but now I have learned a bit more and I have Froyo.
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The devs have no choice but to share. Voiding warranties is uncool for many of us.
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So I was thinking.....
With all the Nexus S rumors floating around I ad a thought. Why would Samsung put much effort into 2.2 when 2.3 is coming soon. Maybe we will skip over 2.2. Also I am hoping a Nexus S will allow us have have a good shot at getting a stock Android build or a stable cyanogenmod version because it will be based on Samsung hardware.
One can only hope, or maybe me thinking is not such a good thing after all.
atrich0608 said:
Why would Samsung put much effort into 2.2 when 2.3 is coming soon.
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Samsung's efforts are complete for the most part, regarding 2.2. They have released it to (all or most, no confirmation) Galaxy S carriers. It is now up to the carriers to accept (as has been done by several) or reject (which is usually the case with VZW).
We've, of course, gotten zero verification that VZW has received anything, but based purely on the fact that it is already *out* on other SGS devices, one can logically assume VZW is the one holding the process up at this point...again, as usual.
Sounds like buisness as usual for VZW. Reminds me of my good old BlackBerry storm.
the nexus S will likely be a much a different phone while being very similar, it will likely not use RFS filesystem as it is garbage, and it will be a GSM model, while one would question why put out froyo so late in the game to your flagship, what makes you think they could have gingerbread ready if froyo still isn't ready, im primly on the same boat as everyone else and am getting tired of being jerked around while older, slower, less selling phones receive an update that we can't even get a date on.
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Why are people so upset about the Froyo delay? The Motorola Backflip that came out in March just got updated to 2.1. The Fascinate was released 2 months ago and shipped with what the Backflip was just upgraded to. It would be nice to have Froyo on the Fascinate, but is it really that big of a difference between 2.1 and 2.2 that people can't just be patient and wait for it?
I'm not 100% on this, but I don't think an upgrade from 2.1 to 2.3 can be done while completely skipping over 2.2. Not an OTA at least.
Actually most people think that if Nexus S is indeed Galaxy S that means that all Galaxy S will benefit, this is not true. Even if all other Galaxy S version receive 2.3 and fascinate doesn't, we can't do anything about 2.3 because the 2.3 kernal isn't here. OS and kernal are two different things. We've had OS sources for the longest time because it is released by Google, that doesn't mean anything if we don't have the working kernal. Devs tried to build 2.1 kernal from the ground in the past with Droid Milestone(?) but that was hell and no one would even try to do that ever again.
So stop with Nexus S = Galaxy S. Even if that is true, unless it is exactly same as Fascinate, we won't benefit anything from that, just like we can't benefit from Internation version, Vibrant, Epic 4G, and Captivate Galaxy S. We need specific "Fascinate" kernal code.
You are exactly right. We couldnt have gingerbread for the exact same reason we can't have froyo now. Think about. I think the fascinate is doomed. Thank God for our good devs, they can keep us up to date, til LTE, At which point, im out!!!
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I agree with ksizzle.. I'm starting to think this phone is doomed
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I wouldnt say its doomed at all . like dude said , its only been two months . Yeah other carriers have it already and vzw is notorious for things like this... but give it a little more . Im probably the most impatient guy around here , i mean the ONLY reason i care at all about it is so development picks up on it . I could care less about playing videos in a browser without an app haha .
I know there is a little more than flash .But there isnt really anything WRONG with 2.1 . Just lack of development ... and even with that said , new kernals are popping up , new roms ,etc . I think this phone is far from dead. i just think we are really impatient haha .
im def being pessimistic but i'm just getting flashbacks of having a blackberry tour last year and being on crackberry forums like wheres our update? and the tour being like the redheaded step child of verizons phones and i jus got deja vu w/ this delayed 2.2 situation...
and then its like gingerbread is coming out now, so there will b phones on 2.3 while we JUST get 2.2.... how long is it gonna take us to get 2.3. im fairly positive it won't b as timely as it should... so i kinda feel doomed lol... i love this phone but dam
while it may have only been two months since this phone came out froyo has been out since may 19, 2010 to be exact. That puts us at six no that behind the current OS, which In a week or 2 will be the old one. However, with that said, I think there are some things in store for everyone that will make this phone MUCH more enjoyable and hopefully we can get it soon.
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I think that we are spoiled users, if we look to the dark side, the iPhone gets a mayor update about once a year, we have to chill out a bit and enjoy what we have now
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I had froyo on my droid it really brought nothen major to the table imo. Im fine with current setup but i just want the fixes/patches for bugs and im happy. Main being gps and button backlights.
bL33d said:
I had froyo on my droid it really brought nothen major to the table imo. Im fine with current setup but i just want the fixes/patches for bugs and im happy. Main being gps and button backlights.
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I have to agree. I remember going through this when I had my Droid and being unimpressed with 2.2. Other than Flash, which for me isn't even a huge deal anyway, I didn't see what all the fuss was about.
I definitely am DYING for a GPS fix though. As for backlights, not sure what's wrong with them unless you're talking about how long they stay on but I thought that there is already a mod for that anyway, no?
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Other than flash and Google making applications not work on our phone I am totally happy. (flame suit) If it wasn't for those things I would be happy if we never got another update.
I am using JT's non- voodoo kernel and system.
atrich0608 said:
Other than flash and Google making applications not work on our phone I am totally happy. (flame suit) If it wasn't for those things I would be happy if we never got another update.
I am using JT's non- voodoo kernel and system.
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How is google making apps that don't work on the Fascinate?
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Mylt1 said:
How is google making apps that don't work on the Fascinate?
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I am taking about the app's that do not work on 2.1 period, not specifically the Fascinate. Like "Voice Actions for Android", new gmail app, etc.
jorge3687 said:
I think that we are spoiled users, if we look to the dark side, the iPhone gets a mayor update about once a year, we have to chill out a bit and enjoy what we have now
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i agree with u except fo the fact that, A. anyone with an iOS developer acct get the OS way in advance. B. when they release an OS update all their stuff gets it.
Canadas Fascinate isn't getting Froyo till January. So let's not get hopes up folkes. I don't see officisl froyo coming this month unless its a leak or a port of some sort.
Anyone ready to jump ship?