Hi
I just bought a Leo T8585. I just found out from reading the forum, that this version only connects to 3G with frequencies at 900 and higher.
The problem is, my provider's 3G band is on the 850 frequency. Now, I've read that the model T9193 is the only one able to connect at 3G with that frequency, but I just can't afford to spend another $700
My question is, can I flash a Radio that works 3G at the 850 band to a T8585?
If so? can someone PLEASE point me out to the right one?
I've been reading a lot here, and I now learned how to flash my Leo, and I think I have everything to get ready, only thing missing is that I don't know the right radio to flash, or a cooked rom? what are my options?
My Leo has the following:
ROM: 1.66.707.1 (76641) WWE
Radio: 2.06.51.07
I have this blasting headache from reading so much and I can't believe I saved some money to buy the phone and it won't work with 3G
Thanks so much in advance for giving me a hand here.
Although there have been rumors that the radio could be flashed, these have so far no grounding in reality. You cannot flash your radio to support ATT 3G.
you can flash the radio no problem, but it wont make any difference.
Sorry man, but do your research. Everywhere it is clearly stated the bands, and you should know what is provided. Put down that 1000 for the other version if you want 3G so bad, or live with it, and use the money to buy a lifetime supply of advil to help that headache!
Rhanks for the answers guys. I just came to the hard reallity.
Guess I will have to sell this one and get the australian version.
Seems to me anyway really stupid from htc to make a cell phone wich only would connect to the highest speed on certain frequencies.
But then again, I don't know about this stuff.
Thans for the replies.
omare2008 said:
Seems to me anyway really stupid from htc to make a cell phone wich only would connect to the highest speed on certain frequencies.
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its to help fight grey imports. Otherwise people would only buy the one that is cheapest around teh world and have it imported, destroying the home market.
How many different models are out? How to identify which i have? Whats the hottest rom out? Im coming from a Touch Pro from alltel to T-Mobile, any heads up is much appreciated....
cbmm said:
How many different models are out? How to identify which i have? Whats the hottest rom out? Im coming from a Touch Pro from alltel to T-Mobile, any heads up is much appreciated....
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if the send key is green, you have a tmous.
If it came from tmous, then its a tmous
If you have it working with 3g on tmo usa then it can ONLY be a tmous.
and there's only two models...the tmo us, and the euro version (less memory and a slight bit shorter than the tmo model...plus crucial differences in ROM compatibility).
The thread linked below is where you should really start....go through it at length, check out all the links. After you've done that, then make a list of questions you still haven't seen answers to, and come back and post any that are left
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663845
I'm a huge fan of Kumars 2.0 rom. Its excellent, super stable, and very fast. Plus he's working on new builds based off of the 2.13
sirphunkee said:
and there's only two models...the tmo us, and the euro version (less memory and a slight bit shorter than the tmo model...plus crucial differences in ROM compatibility).
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Three actually. We can't forget the T9193 Telstra edition, which is identical to the European T8585 except for NextG branding and 850/2100MHz HSDPA.
friend'scatdied said:
Three actually. We can't forget the T9193 Telstra edition, which is identical to the European T8585 except for NextG branding and 850/2100MHz HSDPA.
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That is correct....we can't, but I often do anyway
Can you post your stock ROM version? is it 2.10 or 2.13?
2.10 was the original rom 2.13 is the updated version released on 5/13.
In a nutshell, would a Tmobile US HD2 work in the UK under the virgin network?
I've been looking at the frequency that virgin's running at and the supported list for the T9193, and I just want to confirm that it should work before I buy it.
Oh, and does the US version come with the AUO Display by any chance?
It will of course need to be unlocked/sim free and to get the hsdpa/3G connection will need to support that.
As you have done some of the homework I expect by now you'll know
johnerz said:
It will of course need to be unlocked/sim free and to get the hsdpa/3G connection will need to support that.
As you have done some of the homework I expect by now you'll know
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I won't need to because most of the ones I've found on sale are already unlocked, so this would work?
I've always wanted to know,,, since the tmous network uses aws, meaning it uses both it's available utms bands, 1700 and 2100, one for up, one for down, and everyone else uses one band for both, 2100 in this case, is the tmous radio hardware capable of using one band for both?
(Also, wasn't clear from your post, but you know the t9193 is the telstra model, not tmous, right?)
samsamuel said:
(Also, wasn't clear from your post, but you know the t9193 is the telstra model, not tmous, right?)
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Actually, I didn't, I just assumed T9193 was the US version.
Hehe, lucky you didn't impulse buy then eh?
There would be no benefit in bringing a t9193 to the UK, since it is identical to the regular hd2( commonly called the t8585, but see below) with the exception of the 850/2100 bands instead of 900/2100, and a tiny amount of case branding.
The tmous appears to carry the same t8585 designation as the regular hd2, although it never seems to be referenced as such anywhere, and Googling t8585 always brings up the regular, never the tmous.
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Hehe, lucky you didn't impulse buy then eh?
There would be no benefit in bringing a t9193 to the UK, since it is identical to the regular hd2( commonly called the t8585, but see below) with the exception of the 850/2100 bands instead of 900/2100, and a tiny amount of case branding.
The tmous appears to carry the same t8585 designation as the regular hd2, although it never seems to be referenced as such anywhere, and Googling t8585 always brings up the regular, never the tmous.
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Yes, very lucky
As for why I want it, there's a lower chance of having wake up lag, and it has 1gb rom, that's all. So if possible I'd like to have this.
Again, not sure from your post which one you mean by "why I want it", though I shall assume you mean the tmous because the t9193 does NOT have 1gb rom.(as for less chance of wake-up lag,,,, hmmm, I'd take that little nugget of info with a large pinch of salt. I've been here daily for 18 months and seen absolutely NO evidence pointing to that being true, ((and indeed you are the first person I've seen saying it)))
your research now would be aimed at finding out for sure if a phone designed for aws can be used on non aws networks. I suspect it will but I for one certainly wouldn't buy until I knew for definite.
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Again, not sure from your post which one you mean by "why I want it", though I shall assume you mean the tmous because the t9193 does NOT have 1gb rom.(as for less chance of wake-up lag,,,, hmmm, I'd take that little nugget of info with a large pinch of salt. I've been here daily for 18 months and seen absolutely NO evidence pointing to that being true, ((and indeed you are the first person I've seen saying it)))
your research now would be aimed at finding out for sure if a phone designed for aws can be used on non aws networks. I suspect it will but I for one certainly wouldn't buy until I knew for definite.
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Sorry for nt being clear, but I meant the tmous, and I just think there's a better chance of it not having wake up lag, and also having an AUO display.
I got the Tmous version & have used it in UK on Vadaphone & T-Mobile, had 3G connection but didn't give it the best of tests as was only in town for a day.
I expect it will be fine as worked perfect on european networks using 2 bands (1up, 1down).
Wil be in UK next month so will test it fully.
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I got the Tmous version & have used it in UK on Vadaphone & T-Mobile, had 3G connection but didn't give it the best of tests as was only in town for a day.
I expect it will be fine as worked perfect on european networks using 2 bands (1up, 1down).
Wil be in UK next month so will test it fully.
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Ty a lot, that's all I needed, virgin is a virtual network using Tmobile, so if it works on that, then it should work fine
no problem, Tmous is the beast & the later built models have revised motherboard & new screen supplier so quality/reliability is better.
Tmob bashed HTC over high unit returns & was the only thing that pushed HTC to do a sneaky revision model.
I run mine on Energy ROM & it is superb, works great in all countries & scenarios I have encountered so far.
1200Mah battery is only real big issue as on 3g HSPDA ect it uses a lot of power compared to GSM Edge.
Mister B said:
no problem, Tmous is the beast & the later built models have revised motherboard & new screen supplier so quality/reliability is better.
Tmob bashed HTC over high unit returns & was the only thing that pushed HTC to do a sneaky revision model.
I run mine on Energy ROM & it is superb, works great in all countries & scenarios I have encountered so far.
1200Mah battery is only real big issue as on 3g HSPDA ect it uses a lot of power compared to GSM Edge.
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Sounds great, I'd been thinking of jumping on the dual core bandwagon, but the cost has been holding me back, and this piece of news makes me feel better.
Mister B said:
no problem, Tmous is the beast & the later built models have revised motherboard & new screen supplier so quality/reliability is better.
Tmob bashed HTC over high unit returns & was the only thing that pushed HTC to do a sneaky revision model.
I run mine on Energy ROM & it is superb, works great in all countries & scenarios I have encountered so far.
1200Mah battery is only real big issue as on 3g HSPDA ect it uses a lot of power compared to GSM Edge.
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Yeah you are right T-Mobile had a huge percentage of HD2 returns and exchanges. Heck even I myself had a replacement HD2 sent to me as my first one had gotten where it would take me up to ten resets to getcit to boot past the orange Windows screen. But most of the returns in my opinion were because people were use to iPhones and Android devices not Windows Mobile. And as we all know Windows Mobile is not for everybody, especially te stock Win Mo ROMs. I myself hated my HD2 the first month I had it as it was my first smartphone cause it would freeze up, close applications on it's own, turn off on it's own (sometimes), get stuck on boot up everytime I had to turn it off then back own, and took forever to load a web page. But when I flash the official update almost all of that cleared up except the damn sticking at bootup. Not long after I flashed the update (my very first flash ) I found XDA and my HD2 became a prized possession. I have not ever so much as seen are touched a EU HD2 and I know they are probably justcas good as a TMOUS HD2, after all Cottula's HD2 is a EU lol. But just to give you some more personal feed back. My TMOUS is great. It still agrevates me sometimes but that is only because I live in an area with crappy signal. Can not give you feed back on your question about it working where you live but I can tell you that you won't regret buying a TMOUS HD2, unless you flash the wrong radio to it lol.
T-Macgnolia said:
Can not give you feed back on your question about it working where you live but I can tell you that you won't regret buying a TMOUS HD2, unless you flash the wrong radio to it lol.
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I take it u mean the .51.x radios? Will prbly buy it tomorrow from ebay.
Looks like the following works fine:
Leo_Radio_2.15.50.14
Seems to be the same one I was using for my eu hd2
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I take it u mean the .51.x radios? Will prbly buy it tomorrow from ebay.
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Yeah that is what I am talking about. You can not flash a radio with a 51 in it to a TMOUS. Also you can not flash a radio with these numbers in it 2.04.50.xx or 2.05.50.xx, these where the radios used in the test TMOUS HD2 devices (HTC Pro Three) and they will kill a TMOUS just like a radio with a 51 in it. You have been warned lol.
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Yeah that is what I am talking about. You can not flash a radio with a 51 in it to a TMOUS. Also you can not flash a radio with these numbers in it 2.04.50.xx or 2.05.50.xx, these where the radios used in the test TMOUS HD2 devices (HTC Pro Three) and they will kill a TMOUS just like a radio with a 51 in it. You have been warned lol.
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You've made me start worrying even before I've bought it. :'(
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I got the Tmous version & have used it in UK on Vadaphone & T Mo
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Good to know. Makes sense that it would work, else roaming wouldn't, but nice to have it confirmed.
Moon2 said:
You've made me start worrying even before I've bought it. :'(
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Don't sweat it man, as long as you make sure the ROM you are flashing does not have one of those radios you are cool. The custom Win Mo ROMs mostly do not have radio included in them but just to be safe I would only flash a custom ROM from the HD2 T-Mobile Windows 6.5 development forum or a custom ROM that spacificaily says it is compatible with the TMOUS. All Android and WP7 ROMs do not have radios included so they are alll cool to flash. The only real ROMs you really have to watch are the official ROMs as they have radios included. If you flash a official stock ROM only use the one you get from the T-Mobile wibsite and you are gravy.
Moon2 said:
You've made me start worrying even before I've bought it. :'(
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Don't worry plenty of info on radios for TmoUS.
I'm currently testing radios for my device & usage. 2.12.50.02_2 is a well liked radio for most people. 2.15.50.14 was slated by a few intelligent HD2 users, haven't tested it myself yet.
This device is superb, just read the forums & post if you have concerns on flashing ect.
What is the latest Baseband or the best baseband for 1700 AWS Frequency Band for Wind Mobile Service in Canada.
My HTC HD2 keep dropping connection, I am running HyperDroid-GBX-v12.
Is there any ROM which is specific to different networks or provide better signal strength.
or is there a way to tweak the signal strength or any APP to boost signal
Please advice
What radio are you on?
Try the radio thread and flash a different one.
jbilling said:
What is the latest Baseband or the best baseband for 1700 AWS Frequency Band for Wind Mobile Service in Canada.
My HTC HD2 keep dropping connection, I am running HyperDroid-GBX-v12.
Is there any ROM which is specific to different networks or provide better signal strength.
or is there a way to tweak the signal strength or any APP to boost signal
Please advice
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HD2s don't have basebands, they have Radio ROMs
And I assume you have a T-Mobile US one. The latest for that (stock) is 2.15.50.14
Radio = baseband as far as I understand. Just semantics ..
Sent from my Atari 600XL using cassette tape and a stamp.
So, if there is a ROM which works better with 3.5 G network ??
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So, if there is a ROM which works better with 3.5 G network ??
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Look I have no hard data showing this to be true. But logic tells me it would be the last radio that was made for the HD2, which is version 2.15.50.14 you can find it here as well as flashing instructions. Here is a direct link to the download.
I am currently in the USA and that is reason why I decided to decode my HTC HD2 before departure. Decoding is inserted last rom and everything is working properly at all, except now I haven’t 3G on phone (Im on AT & T). After few days I went in their office, but without solutions, they said ... Sorry but no phone purchased from us. Help if you know how.....edge is so slow
p.s. I have windows 6,5.
Hardware issue I suspect, if you have an EU or TMOUS HD2 it will not have the radio hardware & bands for at&t 3G. only at&t & Australian telstra HD2 models have the hardware & band specs for 3G on at&t.
Do a search on this via XDA or Google as well discussed here on XDA & many other forums ..
check your radio rom, please... good luck..
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check your radio rom, please... good luck..
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Radio rom has nothing to do with it. It's a hardware thing. The chip set used in T-Mobile and European phones do not have the right bands to connect to 3g on At&t it's that simple. There is nothing that can be done about it other then buying a phone that belongs on At&t.
Thanks all of you, Wil Badgeru is 99,9% right, my phone is not for USA.