I've searched through the forums but can't find anyone asking this and I'm curious. After trying out a lot of different cooked ROM's using USPL and tweaking/testing/sampling what's around I'm getting very confident about tweaking my HD thanks now to this 5-star community and site!
I'm still unclear about what advantages/dangers are there to upgrading your radio version? I totally respect the usual dangers of bricking your device during a rom/software upgrade and all the usual banter surrounding tweaking a device, but wondering specifically why someone would want to upgrade their radio? Is it dependent on your carrier and country of region/usage? What should you be aware of or should you only ever upgrade radio version under very specific situations?
I'm running radio 1.13.25.24 in Australia using Telstra on unlocked HD.
Thanks!
noofny said:
I've searched through the forums but can't find anyone asking this and I'm curious. After trying out a lot of different cooked ROM's using USPL and tweaking/testing/sampling what's around I'm getting very confident about tweaking my HD thanks now to this 5-star community and site!
I'm still unclear about what advantages/dangers are there to upgrading your radio version? I totally respect the usual dangers of bricking your device during a rom/software upgrade and all the usual banter surrounding tweaking a device, but wondering specifically why someone would want to upgrade their radio? Is it dependent on your carrier and country of region/usage? What should you be aware of or should you only ever upgrade radio version under very specific situations?
I'm running radio 1.13.25.24 in Australia using Telstra on unlocked HD.
Thanks!
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We Update Radios for Better reception.. signal and etc improve of the Conection and things like this.
So for me.. you know that the Touch HD have a few second delay when someone calling you...
WHen i flash my RADIO with thelatest one 1.17 and also install a RILHONE 1.14 the phone start to respond without any delay.. also the improvment of signal was cool in some place that befor i have 1 bar signal now i have 3 or more.. the Wi Fi is a bit faster and etc
Also the GPS can improve depends...
So the Radio only by himself can`t do the same for everyone also depends from the ROM you useing and from the Mobile Operator
Like you can see im from Bulgaria and for me the Radio 1.17 with 1.14 Rilphone is the best combination but for you can be diferent....
Anyway the NEW Radio is made to Improve, if we don`t have what to improve there we will not need form a new Radio and HTC will not make a new Radios this that they make new Radios mean that.. still have what to be improved.
This is not only with the RADIOS always when have some UPDATE no matter for your Desktop PC or your Phone or whatever the Update = Improve, of course not all the time the NEW = BETTER and bugs FREE but this is the idea
I've been wondering bout this very same question as well; have been flashing and modding for a while now (aprox 4-5 monthes) and this was goning to be my next port of call. I'm from Oz also but am on the optus network, did you buy the legit next G network telstra HD (T 8285), or just the standard T 8282 ....??
Well I decided to give it a go and upgraded last night to the latest 1.17.25.09 so will post back here with results. It certainly is a very easy and quick process once you understand the USPL process and have already stuffed around with custom ROMs.
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I've been wondering bout this very same question as well; have been flashing and modding for a while now (aprox 4-5 monthes) and this was goning to be my next port of call. I'm from Oz also but am on the optus network, did you buy the legit next G network telstra HD (T 8285), or just the standard T 8282 ....??
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I bought a standard unlocked stock T8282 from some Aussie online store (which means it would have come straight from Hong Kong), paid little extra for extended warranty (recommended). Dunno what you mean by 'legit' lol...I'm strongly against the big telcos and the scams they pull making people pay more for a device that has limited functionality and usually locked down and defecated with their corporate logos and ****e. When you want a device, you buy the device. A telco is a service provider of a network service, not a hardware supplier or software house or device tweaker. If you cant afford the device, put it on a credit card and pay a bank off instead of a telco and just get a pre-paid account. In AUS the telcos try and charge unaware peeps $70 and more just to unkock a phone they have locked themselves. Those 'plans' end up costing people over $2000 after 2 years...stoopid. End rant...
Currently using TP2/Tilt 2 and just got an itch to try an on-screen keyboard with a larger screen so I bought a Telstra branded HD2 T9193. Been on the TP2 board for a while.
Anticipating its arrival I will begin perusing the threads here to find the most efficient ways to make it work as desired on the ATT network here in So. Fla. I have already subscribed to a few threads but if anyone has specific suggestions feel welcome to post them or PM me.
Ultimately, I'll run the Android 2.2 side by side on the WinMo.
David
as far as roms, radios, tweaks, apps, reg edits etc etc, anything that applies to regular hd2 applies to telstra, with the exception of HSPL. You can't use hspl2, only hspl1 (probably requires finding an old telstra rom and flashing from sd card) or hspl3.
So, don't worry about the tmous talk about the wrong radio killing your phone, it doesn't apply to you.
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....So, don't worry about the tmous talk about the wrong radio killing your phone, it doesn't apply to you.
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LOL. Good to know. I have faith in myself but I am just as able to screw something up as anyone else!
I´ll really love to have one of those (i have T-Mobile´s version), my provider runs his 3G network on the 850, so T-Mo is no good for that, and if i buy one from Telstra the price goes up to 200% of what i have paid for mine ($460-ish US dollars), good luck with your phone.
SLDS.
Hi all,
my first post here! a definite newbie!
I am planning to get a new HD2, and from a few online stores here down under in Australia, I found that they sell both the T8585 and the T9193. The T9193 is around AUD$200 more expensive.
Search the forum, seems like they are pretty the same except the NextG freq difference, and possibly the larger ROM (1G). I am not with NextG so that doesn't really bother me.
As I would be interested in using Android instead of Winmo, I am wondering if it is worth paying the extra 200 bucks for the larger ROM in T9193. Would that be more 3rd party android ROM support for this?
Thanks for all the insights...
Hey, welcome to xda
T9193 doesn't have a bigger ROM...it's still only 512MB. Only difference is the band frequencies.
thanks for clarifying it the_scotsman... I must have mis-read some info then.
a $200 difference for just a freq band difference!
Anyway, if that's the case, then I guess I will go with a T8585 and follow the instruction here to put android on. I hope it will be a nice experience.
Depending on your provider, one version will give you 3g and the other will not. Thats what he means by different bands. Make sure the one you buy is compatible with your company's 3g bands.
OK I have done some searching around on this topic and I'm finding a lot of mixed information. I'm currently on the Rogers network here in Canada and I managed to get my hands on an HD2 for next to nothing. So I jumped on the chance to have a "boot whatever the heck you want phone". However, while initially researching the phone I only quickly looked over the supported frequencies for the phone to ensure that I could use in on Rogers. Of course it will work as a phone just fine, however, it will not support 3g....apparently.
Started searching about for a way to change the phones frequency and some are saying it is possible to flash another radio for say the European version and some are saying that's not possible. I'm inclined to think it is not possible and that it is a hardware limitation. I figure that this is the best place to look for some real answers. Anyone have some insight into this matter? Oh and if it is a hardware issue and it can be changed....I'm not afraid to take the whole phone apart to try it. Ive done my share of tear downs on other phones....just for the heck of it.
Thanks in advance
only the telstra model will give you 3g on rogers.
hardware, and not changeable
yes you can change the radio (if youhave a tmous ((t mobile us)) then you need to be REAL careful which radio you flash) but changing radio has no effect on the bands.
this forum is for the regular hd2, the tmous (if that's what you have) can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=631
If you have the T-Mobile US version then you can use it on Wind Mobile here in Canada. This is what I'm doing and everything works great, including the 3g. I've loaded Android on it and I absolutely love my HD2!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
I actually bought a Telstra (Montreal Fido user) because we don't have Wind here... Telstra works great. Got it off ebay from a nice aussie fellow. I wanted the Tmous one for the extra ROM space, but hey... As long as Android runs on it, I'm more than happy!
Welcome to the HD2 community.
In a nutshell, would a Tmobile US HD2 work in the UK under the virgin network?
I've been looking at the frequency that virgin's running at and the supported list for the T9193, and I just want to confirm that it should work before I buy it.
Oh, and does the US version come with the AUO Display by any chance?
It will of course need to be unlocked/sim free and to get the hsdpa/3G connection will need to support that.
As you have done some of the homework I expect by now you'll know
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It will of course need to be unlocked/sim free and to get the hsdpa/3G connection will need to support that.
As you have done some of the homework I expect by now you'll know
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I won't need to because most of the ones I've found on sale are already unlocked, so this would work?
I've always wanted to know,,, since the tmous network uses aws, meaning it uses both it's available utms bands, 1700 and 2100, one for up, one for down, and everyone else uses one band for both, 2100 in this case, is the tmous radio hardware capable of using one band for both?
(Also, wasn't clear from your post, but you know the t9193 is the telstra model, not tmous, right?)
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(Also, wasn't clear from your post, but you know the t9193 is the telstra model, not tmous, right?)
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Actually, I didn't, I just assumed T9193 was the US version.
Hehe, lucky you didn't impulse buy then eh?
There would be no benefit in bringing a t9193 to the UK, since it is identical to the regular hd2( commonly called the t8585, but see below) with the exception of the 850/2100 bands instead of 900/2100, and a tiny amount of case branding.
The tmous appears to carry the same t8585 designation as the regular hd2, although it never seems to be referenced as such anywhere, and Googling t8585 always brings up the regular, never the tmous.
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Hehe, lucky you didn't impulse buy then eh?
There would be no benefit in bringing a t9193 to the UK, since it is identical to the regular hd2( commonly called the t8585, but see below) with the exception of the 850/2100 bands instead of 900/2100, and a tiny amount of case branding.
The tmous appears to carry the same t8585 designation as the regular hd2, although it never seems to be referenced as such anywhere, and Googling t8585 always brings up the regular, never the tmous.
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Yes, very lucky
As for why I want it, there's a lower chance of having wake up lag, and it has 1gb rom, that's all. So if possible I'd like to have this.
Again, not sure from your post which one you mean by "why I want it", though I shall assume you mean the tmous because the t9193 does NOT have 1gb rom.(as for less chance of wake-up lag,,,, hmmm, I'd take that little nugget of info with a large pinch of salt. I've been here daily for 18 months and seen absolutely NO evidence pointing to that being true, ((and indeed you are the first person I've seen saying it)))
your research now would be aimed at finding out for sure if a phone designed for aws can be used on non aws networks. I suspect it will but I for one certainly wouldn't buy until I knew for definite.
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Again, not sure from your post which one you mean by "why I want it", though I shall assume you mean the tmous because the t9193 does NOT have 1gb rom.(as for less chance of wake-up lag,,,, hmmm, I'd take that little nugget of info with a large pinch of salt. I've been here daily for 18 months and seen absolutely NO evidence pointing to that being true, ((and indeed you are the first person I've seen saying it)))
your research now would be aimed at finding out for sure if a phone designed for aws can be used on non aws networks. I suspect it will but I for one certainly wouldn't buy until I knew for definite.
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Sorry for nt being clear, but I meant the tmous, and I just think there's a better chance of it not having wake up lag, and also having an AUO display.
I got the Tmous version & have used it in UK on Vadaphone & T-Mobile, had 3G connection but didn't give it the best of tests as was only in town for a day.
I expect it will be fine as worked perfect on european networks using 2 bands (1up, 1down).
Wil be in UK next month so will test it fully.
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I got the Tmous version & have used it in UK on Vadaphone & T-Mobile, had 3G connection but didn't give it the best of tests as was only in town for a day.
I expect it will be fine as worked perfect on european networks using 2 bands (1up, 1down).
Wil be in UK next month so will test it fully.
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Ty a lot, that's all I needed, virgin is a virtual network using Tmobile, so if it works on that, then it should work fine
no problem, Tmous is the beast & the later built models have revised motherboard & new screen supplier so quality/reliability is better.
Tmob bashed HTC over high unit returns & was the only thing that pushed HTC to do a sneaky revision model.
I run mine on Energy ROM & it is superb, works great in all countries & scenarios I have encountered so far.
1200Mah battery is only real big issue as on 3g HSPDA ect it uses a lot of power compared to GSM Edge.
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no problem, Tmous is the beast & the later built models have revised motherboard & new screen supplier so quality/reliability is better.
Tmob bashed HTC over high unit returns & was the only thing that pushed HTC to do a sneaky revision model.
I run mine on Energy ROM & it is superb, works great in all countries & scenarios I have encountered so far.
1200Mah battery is only real big issue as on 3g HSPDA ect it uses a lot of power compared to GSM Edge.
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Sounds great, I'd been thinking of jumping on the dual core bandwagon, but the cost has been holding me back, and this piece of news makes me feel better.
Mister B said:
no problem, Tmous is the beast & the later built models have revised motherboard & new screen supplier so quality/reliability is better.
Tmob bashed HTC over high unit returns & was the only thing that pushed HTC to do a sneaky revision model.
I run mine on Energy ROM & it is superb, works great in all countries & scenarios I have encountered so far.
1200Mah battery is only real big issue as on 3g HSPDA ect it uses a lot of power compared to GSM Edge.
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Yeah you are right T-Mobile had a huge percentage of HD2 returns and exchanges. Heck even I myself had a replacement HD2 sent to me as my first one had gotten where it would take me up to ten resets to getcit to boot past the orange Windows screen. But most of the returns in my opinion were because people were use to iPhones and Android devices not Windows Mobile. And as we all know Windows Mobile is not for everybody, especially te stock Win Mo ROMs. I myself hated my HD2 the first month I had it as it was my first smartphone cause it would freeze up, close applications on it's own, turn off on it's own (sometimes), get stuck on boot up everytime I had to turn it off then back own, and took forever to load a web page. But when I flash the official update almost all of that cleared up except the damn sticking at bootup. Not long after I flashed the update (my very first flash ) I found XDA and my HD2 became a prized possession. I have not ever so much as seen are touched a EU HD2 and I know they are probably justcas good as a TMOUS HD2, after all Cottula's HD2 is a EU lol. But just to give you some more personal feed back. My TMOUS is great. It still agrevates me sometimes but that is only because I live in an area with crappy signal. Can not give you feed back on your question about it working where you live but I can tell you that you won't regret buying a TMOUS HD2, unless you flash the wrong radio to it lol.
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Can not give you feed back on your question about it working where you live but I can tell you that you won't regret buying a TMOUS HD2, unless you flash the wrong radio to it lol.
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I take it u mean the .51.x radios? Will prbly buy it tomorrow from ebay.
Looks like the following works fine:
Leo_Radio_2.15.50.14
Seems to be the same one I was using for my eu hd2
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I take it u mean the .51.x radios? Will prbly buy it tomorrow from ebay.
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Yeah that is what I am talking about. You can not flash a radio with a 51 in it to a TMOUS. Also you can not flash a radio with these numbers in it 2.04.50.xx or 2.05.50.xx, these where the radios used in the test TMOUS HD2 devices (HTC Pro Three) and they will kill a TMOUS just like a radio with a 51 in it. You have been warned lol.
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Yeah that is what I am talking about. You can not flash a radio with a 51 in it to a TMOUS. Also you can not flash a radio with these numbers in it 2.04.50.xx or 2.05.50.xx, these where the radios used in the test TMOUS HD2 devices (HTC Pro Three) and they will kill a TMOUS just like a radio with a 51 in it. You have been warned lol.
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You've made me start worrying even before I've bought it. :'(
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I got the Tmous version & have used it in UK on Vadaphone & T Mo
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Good to know. Makes sense that it would work, else roaming wouldn't, but nice to have it confirmed.
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You've made me start worrying even before I've bought it. :'(
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Don't sweat it man, as long as you make sure the ROM you are flashing does not have one of those radios you are cool. The custom Win Mo ROMs mostly do not have radio included in them but just to be safe I would only flash a custom ROM from the HD2 T-Mobile Windows 6.5 development forum or a custom ROM that spacificaily says it is compatible with the TMOUS. All Android and WP7 ROMs do not have radios included so they are alll cool to flash. The only real ROMs you really have to watch are the official ROMs as they have radios included. If you flash a official stock ROM only use the one you get from the T-Mobile wibsite and you are gravy.
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You've made me start worrying even before I've bought it. :'(
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Don't worry plenty of info on radios for TmoUS.
I'm currently testing radios for my device & usage. 2.12.50.02_2 is a well liked radio for most people. 2.15.50.14 was slated by a few intelligent HD2 users, haven't tested it myself yet.
This device is superb, just read the forums & post if you have concerns on flashing ect.