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**Video and Benchmark Uploaded** anyone considering LG Optimus S? I'm impressed

I was in the sprint store today and notice the Optimus S and was IMPRESSSED.
It's very responsive and smooth. I was really curious to why and after some research..
Qualcomm MSM7627 chipset with dual cores really help with graphics and games.
technical specs:
* Two ARM cores integrated into a single chip – a dedicated CPU core and a dedicated modem processor – for an unparalleled level of integration:
o 1. 600MHz applications processor with floating point unit and L2 cache
o 2. 400MHz modem processor
Finally Got it
Here's my video showcasing the SPEED of apps and games:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4chj2BOUec4
-1st app I launch was GoogleMaps, then Youtube, Angry Birds, and Burning Tires
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Compared it side by side (I have overclocked hero)
What I liked..
-TONS faster than hero, website scrolling smmooooth
-It's only $50...
-3G so no $10 surcharge
-Slightly brighter
-I believe it was 512mb ram (hero has 256?)
-Doesn't feel cheap at all
What didn't liked...
-No led light, but there's some apps that can make your phone vibrate for notifications
-Fiberglass display (scratches easier, but will not crack if dropped)

mxl180 said:
I was in the sprint store today and notice the Optimus S and was IMPRESSSED.
It's very responsive and smooth. I was really curious to why and after some research..
Qualcomm MSM7627 chipset with dual cores really help with graphics and games.
technical specs:
* Two ARM cores integrated into a single chip – a dedicated CPU core and a dedicated modem processor – for an unparalleled level of integration:
o 1. 600MHz applications processor with floating point unit and L2 cache
o 2. 400MHz modem processor
Compared it side by side (I have overclocked hero)
What I liked..
-Faster than hero, website scrolling smmooooth
-It's only $50...
-3G so no $10 surcharge
-Slightly brighter
-I believe it was 512mb ram (hero has 256?)
What didn't liked...
-No led light, but there's some apps that can make your phone vibrate for notifications
-Fiberglass display (scratches easier, but will not crack if dropped)
-Something I notice the DATA loading was noticeably slower on LG, maybe because my hero is cynogenmod data tweaked??
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i have both phones and i love the optimus. it loads up real fast compared to the hero. i will not get rid of my optimus unless it is for an evo. that is how good of a phone that i think it is. it also has alot hotter receiver in it and gets a signal in places that i couldn't before. overall i rate it an 8.5 out of 10

mdpirello said:
i have both phones and i love the optimus. it loads up real fast compared to the hero. i will not get rid of my optimus unless it is for an evo. that is how good of a phone that i think it is. it also has alot hotter receiver in it and gets a signal in places that i couldn't before. overall i rate it an 8.5 out of 10
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Mm, thats nice to hear. Maybe my mom would like an Optimus instead of her crappy blackberry.

Intersting, I didn't expect it to be that great! Now I'm looking forward to try one out

I was looking at the Optimus too. My heart REALLY wants an Evo but my head just cant justify paying for the 4g service when it's not in my area and probably wont be for a very long time.

I just bought this phone and I am in LOVE. It feels soo good in your hand, perfect weight and balance. The screen is vibrant, battery life good, and with froyo 2.2 it is amazingly buttery smooth. It makes the EVO seem like a goliath in a good way. Perfect phone and I've owned alot of phones. Now wheres our roms??!

My sister just got one of these and I was thoroughly surprises as well. The speed of this phone puts the hero to shame. Everything is fast and smooth with no lag anywhere. The scrolling the app drawer and most noticeably the typing are all fast and smooth. I'm running cm6.1 overlooked and here phone stock is 10 times better. Angry birds runs perfect on it and the gallery and camera have no hesitation when opening or being used. This is a good phone. I'm seriously considering buying it to hold over until another top of the line is released for gingerbread.
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I was thinking about the lg. before we moved to verizon.. But since getting the droid incredible..I cant think of any android I would rather have atm..perfect size. and everything just blazes.. Sprint really needs something like the DINC without 4g.. etc,, cause they have a big hole in the android selection..
Those midrange.. like the sanyo and sammy. both suck.. basicly they need a evo with a smaller screen and no 3g. oh wait thats the DINC..lol
Thats the only thing I like bout verizon the selection... Sprint always has gaps.
But that lg does like pretty decent.. might tell my bro.. since he has one of my heros atm.. still have 2 in my dresser with my tp2 and a tour..

MrDowntown12 said:
My sister just got one of these and I was thoroughly surprises as well. The speed of this phone puts the hero to shame. Everything is fast and smooth with no lag anywhere. The scrolling the app drawer and most noticeably the typing are all fast and smooth. I'm running cm6.1 overlooked and here phone stock is 10 times better. Angry birds runs perfect on it and the gallery and camera have no hesitation when opening or being used. This is a good phone. I'm seriously considering buying it to hold over until another top of the line is released for gingerbread.
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I just tried it at the store and completely agree, it's a suuuuuper fast and smooth experience. I don't know how they did it, but it's a joy to use.
I also agree with the comment above me. The Droid Incredible has the best balance of performance and physical size, and it would be awesome if Sprint had something similar without the 4G $10/mo surcharge.

At first I was a little iffy about letting a relative get the Optimus S before I got a chance to use it and read up on the drvice. Boy was I blown away by the phones speed and smoothness. Its a nice device that I wouldn't mind having for daily use.
Form factor is nice as well. It would be nice is a few showed up on eBay at a reasonable price,I'd be interested in getting one off contract to hold be over if I need a phone.
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It will be $1.00 at Best Buy on Black Friday. I also saw something about it being FREE at Radio Shack.
I've been reading up on this phone all over on different forums and from what I've learned:
Rooting can be accomplished by using Z4Root from the Market - even after the recent OTA update.
The OTA update includes Swype.
No Flash yet. The GPU is fast enough, but apparently it isn't supported by Adobe. Not sure 100%, but the GPU may be missing a certain hardware component to allow for true GPU-accelerated Flash. It would explain part of the cheaper price.

I dont care how good it is, I will never in LIFE buy any LG phone i dont care how fast or sleek it is I just wont.....what.....I have my reasons lol. HTC for the win or samsung. That is all.

dirkyd3rk said:
I dont care how good it is, I will never in LIFE buy any LG phone i dont care how fast or sleek it is I just wont.....what.....I have my reasons lol. HTC for the win or samsung. That is all.
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Agreed!

Haha, I agree on the HTC front - they know how to make a sweet phone, but have you seen the garbage that is the Samsung Intercept and Samsung Transform? Complete junk. The only I had two Samsung phones in my life - some old silver flip phone, and the A900 (best flip phone ever!), but as far as I can tell the only quality phone they make now is the Epic (and variants).

Samsung Intercept and Samsung Transform?
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And Samsung Moment all use the same processor and have an OpenGL ready chipset and no OpenGL drivers. This makes the phones crap. The Intercept is also EVDO Rev.0 which I believe fixed the radio lock bug that plagued the Moment. The transform is Rev.A (without the radio lock) but the same attrocious OpenGL performance. Samsung has completely failed at producing decent mid and low range android devices. it's remarkable.

thats why sprint needs a middle of the ground high performer. like the htc incredible.. even though i hate verizon.. This phone has really impressed me so far..

spiritcrusher33 said:
thats why sprint needs a middle of the ground high performer. like the htc incredible.. even though i hate verizon.. This phone has really impressed me so far..
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Forget middle of the road, I want a beastly dual core 4g monster!

A Sprint branded Desire Z/G2 would be really, really nice. I think Cyanogen said the G2 totally blows away his previous N1.

stayclean said:
A Sprint branded Desire Z/G2 would be really, really nice. I think Cyanogen said the G2 totally blows away his previous N1.
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Yeah, that with dual core!!!

Hero also haas a "dual core" modem/app processor. Technically the dual core devices that ate soon to got are tri core
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SGS2 & Sensation Tested

Wow. From preliminary testing, the Sensation's performance is pretty underwhelming. I was seriously considering it before I got the SGS2 because I've had a lot of luck with HTC phones and I like the QHd screen. I'm not Sensation bashing but the results speak for themselves. The phone got really low quadrant scores when it was tested pre-production as the Pyramid. They've improved, but not tremendously.
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SlashGear 5/20/11 - In terms of performance, the Galaxy S II keeps its crown at this early stage. We ran benchmarking tool Quadrant Advanced, and the Samsung scored 3504 overall, with 7119 in the CPU category. In contrast, the HTC managed 2245 overall, with 5918 in the CPU category. I/O is also low, at half the score that the GSII manages. Bear in mind, though, that raw benchmarks generally don’t tell the whole story, and depending on how HTC (and Samsung) throttles its processor, results will vary widely (you can see that in the video above, where both phones get different in a different run of Quadrant; the CPU appears to be so new that Quadrant can’t identify it, either, in the System Info pane).
It’s too early to say whether the Sensation offers enough to take the Galaxy S II’s spot at the top of our Android leaderboard, that will have to wait for the full review. Its display holds up surprisingly well to Samsung’s Super AMOLED Plus, though we’ll have to see whether it can match the GSII’s impressively lengthy battery life.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-sensation-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-video-20153280/
For skeptics, go here and watch the benchmarking and web browsing tests of the Sensation before leaping to its defense.
http://www.youtube.com/user/samjpullen
P.S. - I'm sure as HTC's flagship it's a great phone and will undoubtedly serve millions of users well and develop a loyal fan base. But, for this user, I'm happy I went with the SGS2.

take note that resolution in the Sensation is higher than SGS. Given that though. Still Samsung's own Exynos chip craps over all others.

In fairness to the HTC, Quadrant scores really have to be taken with a pinch of sodium chloride for the most part. Still, unless they have put a decent battery in the thing, I can't imagine it will compete in that respect. The Desire HD has a terrible battery life.
EDIT - having looked at the HTC's specs it really is in 2nd place behind the Samsung in my view. At best it could match the performance of the Exynos but I suspect it won't be able to when software is written to take advantage of Samsung's chip, it only has 768mb of ram (as opposed to 1gb on the GS2) and 1gb of internal storage unless you put a card in it (in comparison to 16gb on the GS2 currently). Then there is the battery life which is less. You only have to look at the screen shot above to see the screen isn't as good quality wise. In fact, apart from the increased screen resolution and perhaps HTC Sense, I can't see a single thing I would take over the Samsung.

You realize quadrant doesn't use multiple cores right? Quadrant is a **** benchmark, use smartbench2011 or something (btw I knw u didn't test these)
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dk206 said:
take note that resolution in the Sensation is higher than SGS. Given that though. Still Samsung's own Exynos chip craps over all others.
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we can't also ignore the 3d tests being capped to 60fps on samsung either

dk206 said:
take note that resolution in the Sensation is higher than SGS. Given that though. Still Samsung's own Exynos chip craps over all others.
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CPU test has nothing to do with resolution.

ph00ny said:
we can't also ignore the 3d tests being capped to 60fps on samsung either
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I wonder if there is any method to test the full potential of the gpu bypassing the 60fps cap? Just to know what this is capable of

ECOTOX said:
You realize quadrant doesn't use multiple cores right? Quadrant is a **** benchmark, use smartbench2011 or something (btw I knw u didn't test these)
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I wouldn't have been so taken aback if it was just one benchmark by one source. The only reason I'm even following the Sensation is I could have gotten it for 1/2 of what I paid for the SGS2 and wanted to see if I made the right choice (and I'm objective enough to admit failure). It's still early and once more are in the wild we'll see how it fares in things like battery life, camera, sound, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and GPS which we have no shortage of comments on.
Watch this, it's a benchmark of Quadrant and Linpack and the reviewer is certainly being objective:
http://www.youtube.com/user/samjpullen#p/search/10/6RHziztN2gs
And this is real-time browser performance:
http://www.youtube.com/user/samjpullen#p/u/11/JBJT_n6u7Wk
Again, not bashing the Sensation but both HTC and Samsung have gone out of their way to position the Sensation and SGS2 as their "flagships" opening up the right to be critical. With people on this forum going nuts about a .05 second delay after hitting the home button imagine the hue and cry if the SGS2's browser behaved the way the Sensation's does.

BarryH_GEG said:
I wouldn't have been so taken aback if it was just one benchmark by one source. The only reason I'm even following the Sensation is I could have gotten it for 1/2 of what I paid for the SGS2 and wanted to see if I made the right choice (and I'm objective enough to admit failure). It's still early and once more are in the wild we'll see how it fares in things like battery life, camera, sound, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and GPS which we have no shortage of comments on.
Watch this, it's a benchmark of Quadrant and Linpack and the reviewer is certainly being objective:
http://www.youtube.com/user/samjpullen#p/search/10/6RHziztN2gs
And this is real-time browser performance:
http://www.youtube.com/user/samjpullen#p/u/11/JBJT_n6u7Wk
Again, not bashing the Sensation but both HTC and Samsung have gone out of their way to position the Sensation and SGS2 as their "flagships" opening up the right to be critical. With people on this forum going nuts about a .05 second delay after hitting the home button imagine the hue and cry if the SGS2's browser behaved the way the Sensation's does.
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WOW, and that's with "on demand" flash..? the SGSII gets WAY better than that with "always on" It really is like night & day when it comes to performance. I guess you gotta take into consideration that the sensation IS a QHD screen..? More pixels..? Either way, the super amoled + makes up for that loss and then some.

Galaxy S2 is better but I love the build quality of the Sensation

The sensation has the same problems everyother htc phone has. Your guaranteed to have crappy audio(tiny sound) and dust under screen.
Does the qhd screen make sensation near a 1000 points less then the sgs2?

Looking at the article on Anandtech
anandtech(dot)com/show/4144/lg-optimus-2x-nvidia-tegra-2-review-the-first-dual-core-smartphone/4
The Qualcomm CPU is only partially out of order. It is more similar to a Cortex A8 than the Cortex A9. Since A9 is faster than A8, I guess, clock for clock comparision, Sensation's slower performance is expected.

EleCtrOx666 said:
CPU test has nothing to do with resolution.
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The cpu part of quadrant or the benchmark overall?
Because resolution is a HUGE part in scores.

intruda119;14025647
Does the qhd screen make sensation near a 1000 points less then the sgs2?[/QUOTE said:
No, only ~500 less.
Its even below droid X2....
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The sensation might nit be the fastest phone but it had Sense, after coming from the Desire to the SGS2 I appreciate how much effort the put into that to create their user experience, it beats the iphone hands down.

intruda119 said:
The sensation has the same problems everyother htc phone has. Your guaranteed to have crappy audio(tiny sound) and dust under screen.
Does the qhd screen make sensation near a 1000 points less then the sgs2?
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Starting to wonder if the bad audio (both loudspeaker, and tinny call quality) have something to do with the build materials used? Both Samsung and Motorola = plastic and have superior sound in comparison. Sigh, guess I'm waiting until a Canadian carrier picks up the GS2, and hopefully by then, most issues with it are sorted.

godutch said:
The sensation might nit be the fastest phone but it had Sense, after coming from the Desire to the SGS2 I appreciate how much effort the put into that to create their user experience, it beats the iphone hands down.
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I must be one of the few people on here who never really liked Sense.
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Pagnell said:
I must be one of the few people on here who never really liked Sense.
Sent from my £2.99 Casio digital watch.
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Your not alone. Not that I didn't like it, I just find LauncherPro better. ON my Desire - it's a LOT let laggy. A few widgets and it was lag-central on Sense - but i will miss the general UI if I get a GSII such as the round-edged-rectangular boxes, the colours. I generally prefer it to the blocky rectangles on TOuchWiz, but then again TW looks really sleek.
Also people must stop confusing build quality with "feel". the build quality is "supposed" to be superb. it's made from a lot of plastic, yet there are no creaks. It's the the lightness and the "feel" of the plastic that makes it feel like a "poor" phone. There is only one upside though - when you drop it, because it's not heavy it's not going to hit the ground with as much force.
(feel free to correct me if you actually have a GSII, which I don't! :/)

when you drop it, because it's not heavy it's not going to hit the ground with as much force.
(feel free to correct me if you actually have a GSII, which I don't! :/)
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Brb dropping phone off of a building
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Brb dropping phone off of a building
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haa. Just trying to apply physics GCSE revision to real life situations!

[Q] dissapointed in evo ??

so i have had evo 24 hours or less rooted ran several roms however running stock kernals not noticing anytthing special the quadrant scores are rediculous my wife has the shift scoring over the top of the nexus 2.2 and i am just barely getting under 1000 i am thinking about taking it back to the shack and getting the epic unless someone can talk me out of it and give me some pretty good reasons to stay with the evo i haven't even seen any o.c. kernals

Do whatever makes you happy. Why do you want complete strangers to talk you into something?
We're comin from a pure power source.

Rule # 1- Don't go by quadrant scores.
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+1 to that
We're comin from a pure power source.

+2 to that
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Quadrant scores mean nothing...

Quadrant scores is CRAP!
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This is true. Quadrant score are pointless.
And the Epic is crap. Good enough?

HipKat said:
This is true. Quadrant score are pointless.
And the Epic is crap. Good enough?
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Lol. +51
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bahahhahhaha go get an epic so people in that forum can read a post about how you aren't sure about it & see if they can talk you into keeping it.. oh yea, being disappointed with a year old phone is well.... disappointing.

+1 to quadrant scores. So many scores are the results of people dumping apps, and overclocking just for the score, and not for every day use.
That said there a several kernels so choose one that suits your rom
THAT said, if you think you might prefer the epic, go for it.
Evo HW 003
MIUI 1.6.17

In addition to what everyone else has said about Quadrant, you can't expect the Evo to beat the Shift. Despite being clocked lower, it's a newer generation of chip than what we have in the Evo -- kind of how Core was "slower" than P4 op paper but was actually faster due to other improvements. So Evo vs Evo Shift isn't a fair comparison.
If you care that much about having the fastest phone you can, why'd you buy the Evo right now anyway? It's been out a year. The Epic has been out almost as long, so I don't think that's your answer either. Either get the Evo 3D or wait for the Photon or Samsung Galaxy S2. The Evo's no longer top of the line.

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so i have had evo 24 hours or less rooted ran several roms however running stock kernals not noticing anytthing special the quadrant scores are rediculous my wife has the shift scoring over the top of the nexus 2.2 and i am just barely getting under 1000 i am thinking about taking it back to the shack and getting the epic unless someone can talk me out of it and give me some pretty good reasons to stay with the evo i haven't even seen any o.c. kernals
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You are not looking in the right place then. Lots of roms and kernels available. You can OC to your hearts content.
So, why, after 24 hours, would you thing the phone sucks? The versitility is one of the things that make this phone. You can try an AOSP rom with a tiamat or Netarcy kernel which will give you more options that you will ever need or one of the many stock roms that just have different levels of awesomeness in them.
But, to each their own. If you really don't like the Evo, don't keep it. I think that would be a mistake but I'm not you. You have got to do whats best for you.
It is a little older phone hardware wise and the shift does have a 2nd gen processor, even though its clocked slower than the Evo, It can test better, but what about the Dev community support? If your rooted, the possibilityes are endless with the original Evo.

My wife took her epic back to the store she did not like it and touch wiz is the wrose keep your evo or go get the 3d if you just got the phone that would have been my first choice anyway and the scores on that phone is grate
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the reason i am dissapointed is for one i expecting the overclocking to be a bit more that 1.1 stable pretty lame considering i have a asus transformer stock 1 ghz now running rooted custom kernal at 1.6 can go all the way to 1.7 is it cause htc locked there kernal sourse and asus has a unlocker kernal sorse just not sure, cause i ran the net something kernal and couldn't do **** with it locked up my phone.

bfitzpatrickd2d said:
the reason i am dissapointed is for one i expecting the overclocking to be a bit more that 1.1 stable pretty lame considering i have a asus transformer stock 1 ghz now running rooted custom kernal at 1.6 can go all the way to 1.7 is it cause htc locked there kernal sourse and asus has a unlocker kernal sorse just not sure, cause i ran the net something kernal and couldn't do **** with it locked up my phone.
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like was mentioned previously, quad scores are meaningless. and IMHO, so is "how well a phone overclocks". for me, it's about support available (ROMS/etc) and options, how the phone actually feels (physical build), what the user experience is.
thus, I am in no way disappointed in my evo. I am almost sad to consider the idea of upgrading. sure, I want a dualcore... but I will miss this screen size (aspect ratio). And the f*cktons or ROM options with dev support.

bfitzpatrickd2d said:
the reason i am dissapointed is for one i expecting the overclocking to be a bit more that 1.1 stable pretty lame considering i have a asus transformer stock 1 ghz now running rooted custom kernal at 1.6 can go all the way to 1.7 is it cause htc locked there kernal sourse and asus has a unlocker kernal sorse just not sure, cause i ran the net something kernal and couldn't do **** with it locked up my phone.
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Look, you bought a 1 year old phone that's designed around a 2.5 year old processor. The transformer is a newer product built around a newer processor. If you want something faster than the Evo, there are other choices you could buy, including the Evo 3D. The Evo is still a great phone, but it's not top of the line anymore.
It's not a question of HTC locking anything down in the kernel -- it's just a processor that doesn't have as much room to overclock as others might. But there's a lot more to a phone's performance than clock speed.

kingdazy said:
like was mentioned previously, quad scores are meaningless. and IMHO, so is "how well a phone overclocks". for me, it's about support available (ROMS/etc) and options, how the phone actually feels (physical build), what the user experience is.
thus, I am in no way disappointed in my evo. I am almost sad to consider the idea of upgrading. sure, I want a dualcore... but I will miss this screen size (aspect ratio). And the f*cktons or ROM options with dev support.
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This is how I feel also

You know what?? It's a ****ing telephone. How goddamn fast do you need it to be.
I don't what it is, but I'm in a real live I-Hate-Whiny-*****es mood
WAAAAA. my overpriced telephone isn't as fast as my quad core computer...
Piss off.....

HipKat said:
You know what?? It's a ****ing telephone. How goddamn fast do you need it to be.
I don't what it is, but I'm in a real live I-Hate-Whiny-*****es mood
WAAAAA. my overpriced telephone isn't as fast as my quad core computer...
Piss off.....
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OK, I'm not in agreement with the OP, but I can't say I agree with this either. Honestly, making calls is among the least important features of my smartphone. Yeah I want it to do it, but I use my "phone" for so much more than that. There's nothing wrong with wanting the fastest and smoothest device we can get.
My beef with the OP is why he bought the Evo in the first place if that's his priority. It's mine, and I certainly wouldn't buy the Evo today. I don't regret buying it 9 months ago though. That, along with too much focus on meaningless benchmarks and clock speeds, are where I have a problem.
Now, if budget only allows for the Evo at its newly reduced price, then that's fine, but I still don't think it's fair to be "disappointed" by the performance of what is now a mid-tier phone, and it's especially not fair to compare it to a new Tegra 2 based tablet.

bench Mark of 3422 in quadrant - but G.Note is so laggy

Quadrant benchmark must be flawed.
Is there a LAG fix available for the Galaxy Note similar to the one that was available for the Galaxy Tab?
Or maybe the resolution is the issue and Gingerbread doesn't have proper 2d hardware acceleration...
Seriously the Note is exceptionally Laggy in general usage and I am coming from a Firstgen Single cpu core Galaxy Tab 7. That hardware is over a year old and way faster in general operation than the Note which I find really surprising. Also the screen Res on that device is 1024x600 which isn't far off from the Note.
Granted my galaxy tab 7 is running overcome gingerbread variant but it is note overclocked or anything. In fact even on Stock it was faster than the Note.
Also is it me or is the touchscreen sometimes unresponsive?
Please share your experiences.

It's just you.
I've had my Note for about 3 days now and haven't noticed any significant lag or touchscreen responsiveness issue of any sort, even after restoring a bunch of apps from my SGS2 -> Note.
I also have the old Galaxy Tab (see my sig) and the Note is noticably faster in all tasks.
My Note is running the stock KJ4 (rooted now) with the (polish) Plus.pl carrier apps removed.

Hmmm...
I'm not so sure.
This Note definitely isn't as responsive as my Tab and stutter considerably more.
I've also tried different Launchers. Performance across the board in my opinion isn't as consistent as the GS2 either.
I am looking forward to when they are released over here in the UK so I can compare performance to demo units in shops.
At some stage when I have some time I will post a Video.
I am convinced it is an optimisation issue as some Apps respond quickly - but again it's inconsistent.
I have a European Note like you - how did you remove the Carrier Apps?

No lag here on my note what I noticed alternative launchers were laggy so I am still on touchwiz till some optimizations come for other launchers maybe the high resolution is the reason.
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The reviews like Engadget etc...have made a point of noticing the opposite...very fast responsiveness.
Hope they're right.
Coming off this Epic 4G Touch...which is blazing, a laggy Note will be a major dissapointment.
Get mine tomorrow.

Mine is laggy still awesome but laggy compared to my sgs2. Its not all laggy just in some areas and I clocked a 3948

I broke 3920 on stock. That's a pretty nice score, but yeah I noticed a bit of lag too.
When drawing the content quickly it noticeably drags behind the pen pointer. It's not enough to make drawing/writing unnatural, but it is definitely visible.
On the other hand I tossed on a 1920x1080 mp4 at 25fps and > 5,000kbps bitrate and it played flawlessly and looked beautiful.

Ozidroid said:
I broke 3920 on stock. That's a pretty nice score, but yeah I noticed a bit of lag too.
When drawing the content quickly it noticeably drags behind the pen pointer. It's not enough to make drawing/writing unnatural, but it is definitely visible.
On the other hand I tossed on a 1920x1080 mp4 at 25fps and > 5,000kbps bitrate and it played flawlessly and looked beautiful.
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This is what is so confusing...
I tried a 720p that played flawlessly too...
Apparently there are some demo units at Oxford Streets carphone warehouse so I will compare and report back.

I get fast response apart from scrolling screens. Thats so laggy compared to my s2
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It's probably worth noting that the demo ones will probably have been played with a lot, having multiple apps running in the ram etc, so they may seem more slugish than a device of your own where you haven't been jumping in and out of multiple apps all day. I'm hoping to find a Galaxy Note in my local store tomorrow but I'll be getting one either way.

My galaxy note is painfully laggy. It's very obvious when I play games, especially air hockey games. That's when I lament having splurged so much cash into this mediocre device. This thing lags so bad, even after reboot or clearing the memory. And it almost always hovers around 600 plus memory usage. Even when I clear memory, I get less than half of the 800 megabytes of RAM freed. This thing, compared to my former galaxy S2 has been a disappointment.

Mines smooth as ****, no lag at all. Must be some issues with certain apps I reckon!

For flashing a custom rocket ROM and tweak setcpu
I get t4600-5100 score.
Watching YouTube 1080p in Web browser has no lag at all.

Mine very smooth also... No lag.
I use launcher pro with the transition and scrolling speeds set to max.

Sometimes I think people just talking much...
Do you have Galaxy note? ?? Or u just trollling

Mine is smooth as butter with deodexed stock rom, no lag anywhere

I check most of people from this thread....your are from galaxy s II forum lol....come on people....I got Samsung galaxy s II and Note.....galaxy s II its a same **** just galaxy note much more sexy...dont forget

qazzi76 said:
Hmmm...
I'm not so sure.
This Note definitely isn't as responsive as my Tab and stutter considerably more.
I've also tried different Launchers. Performance across the board in my opinion isn't as consistent as the GS2 either.
I am looking forward to when they are released over here in the UK so I can compare performance to demo units in shops.
At some stage when I have some time I will post a Video.
I am convinced it is an optimisation issue as some Apps respond quickly - but again it's inconsistent.
I have a European Note like you - how did you remove the Carrier Apps?
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i scored 4500 on mine, stock KKA OTA update, no root, no customs.
did you clear ram or reboot after swapping launchers? if not, the old one will remain in the ram and slow things down.
so far, the galaxy note is the only portable device ive tried that is capable of playing 720p videos encoded at 60fps without frame dropping, so i'd say the quadrant score is to be believed, even though quadrant sucks as a benchmark.
ditch any widgets you dont use and then reset the device just to clear them out of ram.

avetny said:
I check most of people from this thread....your are from galaxy s II forum lol....come on people....I got Samsung galaxy s II and Note.....galaxy s II its a same **** just galaxy note much more sexy...dont forget
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They're not the same.
I've owned both.
Besides the tech specs are stated to be different.
How these actually play out is also different.

rockky said:
Mine very smooth also... No lag.
I use launcher pro with the transition and scrolling speeds set to max.
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Mahoro.san said:
For flashing a custom rocket ROM and tweak setcpu
I get t4600-5100 score.
Watching YouTube 1080p in Web browser has no lag at all.
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Souai said:
i scored 4500 on mine, stock KKA OTA update, no root, no customs.
did you clear ram or reboot after swapping launchers? if not, the old one will remain in the ram and slow things down.
so far, the galaxy note is the only portable device ive tried that is capable of playing 720p videos encoded at 60fps without frame dropping, so i'd say the quadrant score is to be believed, even though quadrant sucks as a benchmark.
ditch any widgets you dont use and then reset the device just to clear them out of ram.
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I think we're talking different lags.
My Galaxy Note operates fine as far as looking at youtube or running apps is concerned. Although I haven't gone out of my way to test video playback at any given resolution, or any such rigorous testing.
What I'm talking about is the input delay that's not as responsive as it ought to be.
The most obvious example is when I try to play games -especially Air Hockey. The delay between my touching the screen and the actual response is so great that the phone itself at times just hangs. That is to say, I have to remove my finger from the screen and do a few check-taps, until the phone is ready to receive input. It's reminiscent of resting a book on top of your computer's keyboard and it enters the same letter so much that the PC starts to ignore entry, and just beeps (typematic rate overwhelming). This is disappointingly equally true with the pen -which was a little surprising but I suppose expected.
This is my current version and kernel.
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Generally speaking, I personally think the Galaxy Note is an unfulfilled promise.

SGS Vs SGS2

Wow, just been setting up sgs2 for a mate, his sgs2 is stock, I haven't used it for a few months and always found it to be lightning fast. However, my Sgs on jw4 and semaphore 274 clocked at 1.2 ghz, appeared no slower at all than the Sgs 2 with general usage. I was using it for at least 30 mins. In fact, my Sgs seemed a bit slicker, the screen is more sensitive, colors more vibrant, this is all down to wicked dev's. So maybe life in the old dog yet
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Wow, just been setting up sgs2 for a mate, his sgs2 is stock, I haven't used it for a few months and always found it to be lightning fast. However, my Sgs on jw4 and semaphore 274 clocked at 1.2 ghz, appeared no slower at all than the Sgs 2 with general usage. I was using it for at least 30 mins. In fact, my Sgs seemed a bit slicker, the screen is more sensitive, colors more vibrant, this is all down to wicked dev's. So maybe life in the old dog yet
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You can't differentiate the performance of both device by general use.
Lets say the SGS has 1000BHP engine while the SGS2 has 2400BHP engine....
And general usage only requires 200BHP. In this scenario there will be no differences in performance because the extra horses haven't been utilised.
Therefore, you'd only see a difference in both devices if, i.e. an application the takes up for than 1000 horses AKA "1000BHP" simply because the SGS2 can output more "BHP" at peak than what the SGS can offer.
Semaphore kernels have touchscreen sensitivity set to "Sensitive(chainfire)" by default. That explains why touchscreen sensitivity on SGS with Semaphore kernel is higher than a SGS2 with stock kernel (both screens should be roughly identical on stock).
And finally, SGS has Super Amoled which is more vibrant than SGS2 which has a Super Amoled Plus panel. Super Amoled panel uses "Pentile Matrix" arrangement which allows for images to appear more virbrant and saturated than Super Amoled Plus panel which uses regular 'RGB' pixel arrangement.
There is still a lot of potential in our devices spike the fact that it is nearly 2 years from release unlike the HTC desire which struggled in the graphics department since it was released! ~ Asphalt 5..-_-
P.S. our device is till a runner up for productivity & Graphics
We are seeing compatibility with newer gameloft titles (<<<<funny that O2X's tegra versions run a awful lot better than PowerVR ones) and console quality games.
Official CyanogenMOD support and XDA dev support brings miracles

My sgs with debloated JW4, rfs (data/data smlink to dbdata), sephamore bigmem (default clock), is almost identical to my gf's sgs2 (factory rom) in speed, opening apps, web-browser etc.
And I overclock mine to 1.2ghz, it is incredibly fast . But my phone doesn't handle OC well at all
But of course, I think if the updates/mods her firmware, the sgs2 will be faster. but the SGS2 was not an amazing upgrade for me at all, it is like ip4 to ip4s.

Agreed, if the sgs2 was 'tuned' then it would be much faster, I was surprised to find my sgs keeping up with the sgs2 tho' as it appeared much slower when I last compared them
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Galaxy s has better 3D performance than s2.
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gsw5700 said:
Wow, just been setting up sgs2 for a mate, his sgs2 is stock, I haven't used it for a few months and always found it to be lightning fast. However, my Sgs on jw4 and semaphore 274 clocked at 1.2 ghz, appeared no slower at all than the Sgs 2 with general usage. I was using it for at least 30 mins. In fact, my Sgs seemed a bit slicker, the screen is more sensitive, colors more vibrant, this is all down to wicked dev's. So maybe life in the old dog yet
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Another fact is gingerbread has poor dual core support. On ICS difference is bigger. But s2 and s is very close because of our devs. S is even better on some 3D parts. Mali gpu is 400mhz which is 2x of our gpu. Anyway our gpu wins it with 200mhz on some 3D textures. Think when we live oc it.
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And finally, SGS has Super Amoled which is more vibrant than SGS2 which has a Super Amoled Plus panel. Super Amoled panel uses "Pentile Matrix" arrangement which allows for images to appear more virbrant and saturated than Super Amoled Plus panel which uses regular 'RGB' pixel arrangement.
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This is so wrong.
SGS2 Super Amoled Plus is better, then it's about calibration and the tools you use.

Tatsuya79 said:
This is so wrong.
SGS2 Super Amoled Plus is better, then it's about calibration and the tools you use.
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I didn't say it was better, it was just about how the pixels were arranged. RGB is the best

Actually there is a race for more and more CPU cores, but SGS with ICS is really smooth, and if you don't plan to play high-end games, I think there is no real reason to change from SGS to SGS2.

el_navajita said:
Actually there is a race for more and more CPU cores, but SGS with ICS is really smooth, and if you don't plan to play high-end games, there is no real reason to change from SGS to SGS2.
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Agreed, saw no reason to sign up to an 18/24 month contract for the SGS2 when I don't play high end games. Genuinely have had the most pleasant time with this phone, more than any other phone I have owned and it STILL isn't letting me down, especially with Voodoo Sound. Thats why I will be getting the SGSIII. People dig at Samsung for some reason but I honestly don't know why, their phones are awesome. HTC phones are plagued with bugs and issues, the overall user satisfaction between the two is phenomenal, I didn't come close to having this feeling with HTC's phones. (Hero, HD2 & Desire).

Frankly is like comparing a Bicycle with a Motorcycle ... both have wheels, handle bars, etc but let's be realistic here.
SGS is fine, a cool phone, huge development potential but it will never be able to top a dual core that punches double the ram we have.
You can throw whatever daily scenario at it and I can bet you you will be more pleased with the SGS2 simple because you won't be annoyed by memory swapping (even with 370 MB kernels I feel the need for more RAM).
Only if you keep the ROMS clean without anything else but stock apps you will most likely wasting your money on SGS2, better yet buy an old phone that handles just calls, smartphones are for running apps.

Currently have both, and to be honest "form factor" of SI is better for me.
JW5 gingerbread + Semaphore is incredible!!!
S1 has better battery life, less lag, better colors, better sound, better development, and reached maturity where everything just works.
S2 still has a great dual core and working gps.

Thats what I said! I did notice the poor battery life on the sgs2, I swear I could almost see the battery level move as I used it...
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I don't get this???
U are saying that sgs and gs2 is equal in performance,screen resolution and so on
There is huge difference in those to phones in all aspects,gs2 is a lot better in every possible way u can think of. Don't get me wrong,i love my sgs and will never sell it,but u can't compare a sgs with a costum rom and a gs2 with stock rom, compare when both are on stock or costum rom for a fair and clear result. But even when sgs is costum and gs2 is stock the gs2 is alot better on high performance.
Btw. I've had my sgs for more than 18month and my gs2 since 11/5-2011 and my first custom rom was insanity on one of his first froyo build(0.21 i think.
Thanx
Edit:gs2 battery is poor on ics,but on ginger there's only about 30 min difference

But who wants to still be using GB? The SGS was an IS a remarkable phone, remember all that time people spent moaning when Samsung said it wasn't getting ICS? Yet here all of us are, running it smoother than ever with better battery life than the SGS2. Don't get me wrong I am not digging at the SII, its a brilliant phone and I probably would have taken it had I been due an upgrade around then, however, no one and I mean no one can slate the SGS for what its been capable of, its far surpassed most peoples expectations, including mine.

yeah our galaxy was / is a cool / great phone. but it's slowly becoming outdated in terms of performance when it comes to daily tasks and multitasking - I for one (and I repeat myself) am hurting due to low ram always.
you can barely run services in the background. add a custom keyboard and some fancy stuff and boom you will get lag. you can run FROYO, GB, ICS you name it, once ram gets "depleted" everything is slower.

Yeah I do agree that if you do have a lot running at once it can start to get sluggish, but I've personally accepted it since ICS and keep processes to a bare minimum. I suppose once I upgrade hopefully to the next Galaxy phone they bring out I'll get back into the swing of maxing out the phone but for now I'm quite content with stock ICS and just using simple tasking apps