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[Poll] Anyone switching to G2x?

I'm strongly thinking about it as it is very tempting! Stock Android (soon to get CM7 which I'm currently using on my N1), bigger screen, dual-core, and HDMI-out (mirroring too). What do you guys think?

Went to Tmobile store today and played with one. It felt solid and seemed to perform fast around the launcher & home screens. But it just didn't feel that much different than my N1 and I don't like the large soft button space at the bottom. I'm holding out for the Pyramid now rumored to be here June 8th.

The Pyramid/Sensation looks absolutely amazing in terms of hardware; can't deny that. But HTC going the locked-bootloader route worries me. And the fact that Cyanogen himself bought a G2x makes it even more awesome. I love my N1 but I think I'm definitely going for a G2x, Sensation, or Galaxy S II this year.

Are you guys experience slow down on your n1? Cuz I am. My quadrant score on 6.1 was high running at 1113 MHz. Now its on cm7 stable release and the highest it can get is 1398. To back that up, sense preview isn't smooth anymore. Any idea?
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Paul22000 said:
The Pyramid/Sensation looks absolutely amazing in terms of hardware; can't deny that. But HTC going the locked-bootloader route worries me. And the fact that Cyanogen himself bought a G2x makes it even more awesome. I love my N1 but I think I'm definitely going for a G2x, Sensation, or Galaxy S II this year.
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Agree, one of those 3 should be a super upgrade this year for me as well...

Switched today ..this phone is a great update

G2X seems to be cool,but I just ran out of money
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I'm most likely going to wait for the Pyramid/Sensation. Love HTC and that phone seems to be the first all-round upgrade to the N1. Gorilla glass, great display + GPU power to drive it, plenty of RAM + storage (compared to my N1!), good looks; only thing it's missing is the trackball LED. Why has everyone dropped the idea of a repeating notification system? I don't care about the trackball, but the light is very useful in meetings.

garyo said:
... I don't care about the trackball, but the light is very useful in meetings.
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I even care about the trackball..moving cursor is so simple with it..I honestly miss the trackball!

I've switched to the OX2, seems worthy:

I'd consider the G2X if the 850 band was confirmed (? maybe it is/isn't, haven't checked in a day or two)
Currently, I'm happy with my phones, but I have a upgrade coming from AT&T in June and I suspect I will use it on a Galaxy S II (that is, if it's out on AT&T by then). This will be the first time in a while I've gotten to take advantage of an upgrade.
Edit: looks like no 850

I'm still holding out for the HTC Pyramid/Sensation ... I can live with the new HTC Sense for a few months before rooting the phone. Then when I root it it will be 1. like a new phone and 2. quite a bit faster. Kinda like a mini-upgrade to an upgraded phone!

You're assuming you'll be able to get round the locked bootloader though.

Rusty! said:
You're assuming you'll be able to get round the locked bootloader though.
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He's an over achiever that's why lol: )
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garyo said:
only thing it's missing is the trackball LED. Why has everyone dropped the idea of a repeating notification system? I don't care about the trackball, but the light is very useful in meetings.
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A) Because none of the phones coming out have multi-colored trackballs/trackpads. Actually, I don't think any other Android phone world-wide has a way to display multi-colored notifications. It looks like all manufacturers have dropped support for trackballs/trackpads in general (along with Google since they added the text selection features in Gingerbread). It's an amazing feature on the N1, but it's the first (and probably the last) phone to have it.
B) But it doesn't matter because XDA members have found alternate methods of notifications (ie using the backlight on the buttons, or a few pixels on the screen, etc)

The HTC Dream, G1, had a multi-colored notification light that wasn't implanted inside the trackball. And it was awesome. It can't be that hard to bring that tiny little multi-colored LED back, but apparently no one really cares. Cause it would still be in HTC phones today. Or I guess it could have been removed for aesthetics.
I honestly don't know why the G2X doesn't interest me. It is incredibly fast, it runs stock Android (which I don't like), and it is on my carrier. But this device simply doesn't manage to spark my interest. I guess compared to other device coming out this year it simply isn't that impressive. The Tegra 2 found in the device isn't that great in comparison to the Adreno 220 found in the HTC Sensation and Exynos found the Galaxy S2, it also has a sub-par screen and an unnecessarily large bezel.
The only reason for me to get this device would be the developer support, but then again, even if Cyanogen himself doesn't have a device doesn't mean it won't be graced with CyanogenMod. Ehhh, I'm pretty sure I'll be skipping this. However iff it is the only thing good on T-Mobile when my contract is up I might have to get it.

Eclair~ said:
it also has a sub-par screen
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Explain?!
It's an IPS LCD as used in the iPhone 4.

Eclair~ said:
The Tegra 2 found in the device isn't that great in comparison to the Adreno 220
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Actually, quite the opposite. The 220 is just barely, barely faster, and in some cases (3D) the 2X pulls ahead. Check out these benchmarks from Anandtech (and note: these are for a 1.5 GHz Adreno 220 whereas the Sensation will be 1.2 GHz):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/3
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(The above 1.5 GHz test device is also not battery optimized at all, so performance may be even lower once HTC tweaks the real 1.2 GHz device to take that into account.)
Either way, it's at least a 200-300% improvement over the N1. I'd love to buy a G2x but will if and only if my N1 sells well on eBay (will list it this weekend, any takers? )

Rusty! said:
Explain?!
It's an IPS LCD as used in the iPhone 4.
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Having an IPS screen has barely anything to do with color reproduction, it more so benefits viewing angles. Which aren't even a problem with AMOLED, Super AMOLED, or Super LCD as is. The IPS LCD screen compared to those listed above is only decent. Washed out compared to the others with blacks that can't even compare to AMOLED.
SAMOLED - SLCD - IPS LCD
And this is before Super AMOLED Plus~
Paul22000 said:
Actually, quite the opposite. The 220 is just barely, barely faster, and in some cases (3D) the 2X pulls ahead. Check out these benchmarks from Anandtech (and note: these are for a 1.5 GHz Adreno 220 whereas the Sensation will be 1.2 GHz):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4243/...mance-1-5-ghz-msm8660-adreno-220-benchmarks/3
(The above 1.5 GHz test device is also not battery optimized at all, so performance may be even lower once HTC tweaks the real 1.2 GHz device to take that into account.)
Either way, it's at least a 200-300% improvement over the N1. I'd love to buy a G2x but will if and only if my N1 sells well on eBay (will list it this weekend, any takers? )
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Yes... and you posted the only result that put the Tegra above the Adreno 220. In all others, it clearly came out ahead. Though that 1.5GHz clock might really account for those differences. I doubt even underclocked to 1.2GHz would it make the Adreno 220 less powerful than the Tegra 2, but who am I to say?

1) Need an AT&T 3G compatible device
2) Strongly prefer a stock Android device that receives its updates from Google.
The Nexus One is the only device out that fulfills both of my requirements.
I wouldn't mind a Nexus S if the AT&T band version ever comes out :-\

SGS2 vs HTC Sensation

Guys,
After a bit of advice please.
I am due an upgrade soon, which will mean the end of a great time with my X10, but i am not sure which of the above to go for.
My wife has the HTC sensation, and i think it is awesome, but i have not really had a good 'play' with the SGS2.
Can anyone please give some constructive advice?
Many thanks!

I love HTC and have an HTC phone currently (the incredible s ), however I think the sgs2 is a much better phone.
the screen, the processor, etc... is just a step above everything else out right now.
you wouldn't be upset with either but I would definitely suggest the s 2

scoobysnacks comes first when it comes to phone wars
SGS 2 is the best around for now...

Samsung Sensation S.
jk
The only reason I wouldn't choose S II is the screen. It's oversaturated and gradients don't display well. A fine example of well-done AMOLED display can be found in the Nokia N8. The Sensation has a better resolution (540x960) compared to S II (480x800). I'd take the Sensation.
And please, do NOT take things too seriously. I know xda too well.

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HTC has much better dev support and better GPS. Sensation all the way.
The only big advantages of the Samsung are the screen and being able to use Odin to save your ass if you **** something up.
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doomed151 said:
Samsung Sensation S.
jk
The only reason I wouldn't choose S II is the screen. It's oversaturated and gradients don't display well. A fine example of well-done AMOLED display can be found in the Nokia N8. The Sensation has a better resolution (540x960) compared to S II (480x800). I'd take the Sensation.
And please, do NOT take things too seriously. I know xda too well.
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Yup. Sensation is great for its user interface, unless you hate HTC Sense 3.0, then that's too bad...
Sensation is running MSM8260 Chipset which should run 1.5GHz by default.
So when comparing in processor, Sensation should have a better performance than S II.
Its screen is better too. Like doomed151 said.
If you do not believe me that Sensation runs a better processor than S II, then please read my post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265103
S II has its pros too. When recording, it records on MP4 (Correct me if wrong, I have forgotten) while Sensation records video with 3GP. 3GP is not really good... however, their difference in quality is minimal and 3GP is smaller in size. Does that counts as pros or cons? Haha
Besides, S II has 1GB of RAM, you may need to consider about how heavy of applications you would be using.
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I do understand what you are saying, but I think the Sensation has enough free RAM. Having more won't make a huge difference...it might help things a little. If it needed more, it would have a lot less free on our current ROMs.
Any less would be a problem, but 768MB is enough in my opinion.
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Phateless said:
HTC has much better dev support and better GPS. Sensation all the way.
The only big advantages of the Samsung are the screen and being able to use Odin to save your ass if you **** something up.
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HTC has HTC Location, a very nice GPS Function, shipped with 30 days of premium navigation. You should know because your wife owns it.
Oh yeah, you also need to consider about the build quality. Samsung Galaxy S II case is made from plastic while HTC Sensation has a round cover of aluminium.
It gives some extra protection and endurance.
If you do not know what I am talking about. Go to my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265103 and scroll down to see the polished aluminium part.
Read more at http://gadgetmonkeys.net/2011/09/htc-sensation-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/
It is from a person who owns both phones. He is not from Techradar or anything. Those reviews sometimes take gifts from the manufacturer and talks good about the manufacturer, making the reviews go unfair and incorrect. I AM NOT SAYING ANYONE, I AM JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE! But Samsung really do lots of advertisements about Samsung Galaxy S II since two months ago.

Ariscelia said:
Yup. Sensation is great for its user interface, unless you hate HTC Sense 3.0, then that's too bad...
Sensation is running MSM8260 Chipset which should run 1.5GHz by default.
So when comparing in processor, Sensation should have a better performance than S II.
Its screen is better too. Like doomed151 said.
If you do not believe me that Sensation runs a better processor than S II, then please read my post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265103
S II has its pros too. When recording, it records on MP4 (Correct me if wrong, I have forgotten) while Sensation records video with 3GP. 3GP is not really good... however, their difference in quality is minimal and 3GP is smaller in size. Does that counts as pros or cons? Haha
Besides, S II has 1GB of RAM, you may need to consider about how heavy of applications you would be using.
HTC has HTC Location, a very nice GPS Function, shipped with 30 days of premium navigation. You should know because your wife owns it.
Oh yeah, you also need to consider about the build quality. Samsung Galaxy S II case is made from plastic while HTC Sensation has a round cover of aluminium.
It gives some extra protection and endurance.
If you do not know what I am talking about. Go to my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265103 and scroll down to see the polished aluminium part.
Read more at http://gadgetmonkeys.net/2011/09/htc-sensation-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/
It is from a person who owns both phones. He is not from Techradar or anything. Those reviews sometimes take gifts from the manufacturer and talks good about the manufacturer, making the reviews go unfair and incorrect. I AM NOT SAYING ANYONE, I AM JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE! But Samsung really do lots of advertisements about Samsung Galaxy S II since two months ago.
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clockspeed alone does not make a processor better.. ..
sgs2 chip has a much better gpu.
why would you need HTC location? google maps is free.
like I said I prefer HTC phones , but the sgs2 is just a touch better imo

Thanks guys!
These are useful posts, shame it doesn't make the choice easier...

Ariscelia said:
Yup. Sensation is great for its user interface, unless you hate HTC Sense 3.0, then that's too bad...
Sensation is running MSM8260 Chipset which should run 1.5GHz by default.
So when comparing in processor, Sensation should have a better performance than S II.
Its screen is better too. Like doomed151 said.
If you do not believe me that Sensation runs a better processor than S II, then please read my post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265103
S II has its pros too. When recording, it records on MP4 (Correct me if wrong, I have forgotten) while Sensation records video with 3GP. 3GP is not really good... however, their difference in quality is minimal and 3GP is smaller in size. Does that counts as pros or cons? Haha
Besides, S II has 1GB of RAM, you may need to consider about how heavy of applications you would be using.
HTC has HTC Location, a very nice GPS Function, shipped with 30 days of premium navigation. You should know because your wife owns it.
Oh yeah, you also need to consider about the build quality. Samsung Galaxy S II case is made from plastic while HTC Sensation has a round cover of aluminium.
It gives some extra protection and endurance.
If you do not know what I am talking about. Go to my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265103 and scroll down to see the polished aluminium part.
Read more at http://gadgetmonkeys.net/2011/09/htc-sensation-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/
It is from a person who owns both phones. He is not from Techradar or anything. Those reviews sometimes take gifts from the manufacturer and talks good about the manufacturer, making the reviews go unfair and incorrect. I AM NOT SAYING ANYONE, I AM JUST GIVING AN EXAMPLE! But Samsung really do lots of advertisements about Samsung Galaxy S II since two months ago.
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Never played with HTC location. I'm an aosp guy and I flash my phones to cm immediately every time.
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DaveHTC200 said:
Guys,
After a bit of advice please.
I am due an upgrade soon, which will mean the end of a great time with my X10, but i am not sure which of the above to go for.
My wife has the HTC sensation, and i think it is awesome, but i have not really had a good 'play' with the SGS2.
Can anyone please give some constructive advice?
Many thanks!
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I too was faced with the same dilemma as you in deciding what phone to get as I was honestly very frustrated with my X10 & just couldnt decide which one to go for S2 or Sensation.
So I am going to give you how I weighted my decision & a mini-review abt my choice (frm someone coming from X10)
S2 Main Advantages:
- Simply put the most powerful & fastest smartphone in market today ( If you ever had any doubts about that fact just look up the Anandtech review of the S2 on google)
- Slim & Lightweight
- Super Amoled+ Display
- Very good still/video camera
- On board 16GB flash memory ( This is always going to be faster than any memory card, a very imp factor for me )
- 1GB Ram
S2 Main Disadvantages:
- Plasticky body
- Touchwiz ( not to everyone taste .. can be fixed with ADW/Launcherpro)
- Surprisingly Super Amoled+ Display - Its love or hate .. the super vivid colors may not be to everyone's taste ( can be toned down using settings however)
- 480 x 800 pixels resolution
Sensation Main Advantages
- Sexy metallic unibody construction
- Sense 3.0 ( easily the most polished android skins around)
- Higer res qHD IPS LCD display ( currently highest res display in the market)
Sensation Main Disadvantages
- Sub par still camera
- 768 MB RAM ( Sense 3.0 eats a lions share of this available ram .. very less ram to other apps available)
- Less internal storage, so u need a SD card ( going to be always slower than on board memory )
- Questionable dual core implementation .. only single core dedicated to applications, while other core is just dedicated to background apps
Considering above factors ( please note these are my opinions alone, others can differ ) i chose to buy :
Samsung Galaxy S2
Mini Review
- I absolutely love the S2 & no matter how hard i try i just cant get it to stutter or lag
- The display is absolutely beautiful. A word of caution .. while the blacks are absolutely impenetrable on the SAmoded+ screen .. the whites are not so 'white' at lower brightness as compared to LCD's .. only when you increase the brightness you get 'full white' colors ..but then it starts hurting ur eyes ... so that takes a getting a bit used to ( esp since i'm comming from the X10 which has a LCD display). But honestly its not a deal breaker ..once you get used to it its no bigge.
Hope it helps you.
And yes Bye bye X10 ! Hello S2 for me !

Why do people instantly choose either the HTC sensation it the gs2? What about the Motorola atrix 4g, photon 4g and HTC evo 3d etc??
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I've been a x10 user and I got SGS-II IMO. It was one of the best choices Ive made.
Don't get these HTC fanboys, but there is a reason why it's called "the fastest and slimmest phone" til now
SGS-2 all the way.Although I love my x10 (RIP )

LegibleEel said:
Why do people instantly choose either the HTC sensation it the gs2? What about the Motorola atrix 4g, photon 4g and HTC evo 3d etc??
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those aren't really worthy contenders imo..
he's going for the best

scoobysnacks said:
those aren't really worthy contenders imo..
he's going for the best
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Benchmarks and camera aside I don't think EVO 3D and Sensation are two different devices!
So I don't get the worthy contenders point!

Just my opinion but id take the sgs2 all day everyday.

scoobysnacks said:
those aren't really worthy contenders imo..
he's going for the best
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I think they are, all have dual-core processors and 1gb of ram... only thing the gs2 has that they don't is a good looking screen.

This is all really pointless when you think about it. All these mentioned phones are great....all have pros and cons. Its all basically gonna come down to user preference...we could sit and argue all day which is the best.

LegibleEel said:
I think they are, all have dual-core processors and 1gb of ram... only thing the gs2 has that they don't is a good looking screen.
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sensation has only 768 MB RAM!
SGS2 is totally a different story! The chipset and the GPU is miles ahead of the competition!
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This is all really pointless when you think about it. All these mentioned phones are great....all have pros and cons. Its all basically gonna come down to user preference...we could sit and argue all day which is the best.
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this was my favorite! back in the college days

Mr Patchy Patch said:
This is all really pointless when you think about it. All these mentioned phones are great....all have pros and cons. Its all basically gonna come down to user preference...we could sit and argue all day which is the best.
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Yes very true..but I don't understand why everyone just goes for the gs2 and htc sensation when there's many other phones that have equal specs...

SGS Vs SGS2

Wow, just been setting up sgs2 for a mate, his sgs2 is stock, I haven't used it for a few months and always found it to be lightning fast. However, my Sgs on jw4 and semaphore 274 clocked at 1.2 ghz, appeared no slower at all than the Sgs 2 with general usage. I was using it for at least 30 mins. In fact, my Sgs seemed a bit slicker, the screen is more sensitive, colors more vibrant, this is all down to wicked dev's. So maybe life in the old dog yet
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gsw5700 said:
Wow, just been setting up sgs2 for a mate, his sgs2 is stock, I haven't used it for a few months and always found it to be lightning fast. However, my Sgs on jw4 and semaphore 274 clocked at 1.2 ghz, appeared no slower at all than the Sgs 2 with general usage. I was using it for at least 30 mins. In fact, my Sgs seemed a bit slicker, the screen is more sensitive, colors more vibrant, this is all down to wicked dev's. So maybe life in the old dog yet
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You can't differentiate the performance of both device by general use.
Lets say the SGS has 1000BHP engine while the SGS2 has 2400BHP engine....
And general usage only requires 200BHP. In this scenario there will be no differences in performance because the extra horses haven't been utilised.
Therefore, you'd only see a difference in both devices if, i.e. an application the takes up for than 1000 horses AKA "1000BHP" simply because the SGS2 can output more "BHP" at peak than what the SGS can offer.
Semaphore kernels have touchscreen sensitivity set to "Sensitive(chainfire)" by default. That explains why touchscreen sensitivity on SGS with Semaphore kernel is higher than a SGS2 with stock kernel (both screens should be roughly identical on stock).
And finally, SGS has Super Amoled which is more vibrant than SGS2 which has a Super Amoled Plus panel. Super Amoled panel uses "Pentile Matrix" arrangement which allows for images to appear more virbrant and saturated than Super Amoled Plus panel which uses regular 'RGB' pixel arrangement.
There is still a lot of potential in our devices spike the fact that it is nearly 2 years from release unlike the HTC desire which struggled in the graphics department since it was released! ~ Asphalt 5..-_-
P.S. our device is till a runner up for productivity & Graphics
We are seeing compatibility with newer gameloft titles (<<<<funny that O2X's tegra versions run a awful lot better than PowerVR ones) and console quality games.
Official CyanogenMOD support and XDA dev support brings miracles

My sgs with debloated JW4, rfs (data/data smlink to dbdata), sephamore bigmem (default clock), is almost identical to my gf's sgs2 (factory rom) in speed, opening apps, web-browser etc.
And I overclock mine to 1.2ghz, it is incredibly fast . But my phone doesn't handle OC well at all
But of course, I think if the updates/mods her firmware, the sgs2 will be faster. but the SGS2 was not an amazing upgrade for me at all, it is like ip4 to ip4s.

Agreed, if the sgs2 was 'tuned' then it would be much faster, I was surprised to find my sgs keeping up with the sgs2 tho' as it appeared much slower when I last compared them
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Galaxy s has better 3D performance than s2.
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gsw5700 said:
Wow, just been setting up sgs2 for a mate, his sgs2 is stock, I haven't used it for a few months and always found it to be lightning fast. However, my Sgs on jw4 and semaphore 274 clocked at 1.2 ghz, appeared no slower at all than the Sgs 2 with general usage. I was using it for at least 30 mins. In fact, my Sgs seemed a bit slicker, the screen is more sensitive, colors more vibrant, this is all down to wicked dev's. So maybe life in the old dog yet
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Another fact is gingerbread has poor dual core support. On ICS difference is bigger. But s2 and s is very close because of our devs. S is even better on some 3D parts. Mali gpu is 400mhz which is 2x of our gpu. Anyway our gpu wins it with 200mhz on some 3D textures. Think when we live oc it.
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MrAndroid12 said:
And finally, SGS has Super Amoled which is more vibrant than SGS2 which has a Super Amoled Plus panel. Super Amoled panel uses "Pentile Matrix" arrangement which allows for images to appear more virbrant and saturated than Super Amoled Plus panel which uses regular 'RGB' pixel arrangement.
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This is so wrong.
SGS2 Super Amoled Plus is better, then it's about calibration and the tools you use.

Tatsuya79 said:
This is so wrong.
SGS2 Super Amoled Plus is better, then it's about calibration and the tools you use.
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I didn't say it was better, it was just about how the pixels were arranged. RGB is the best

Actually there is a race for more and more CPU cores, but SGS with ICS is really smooth, and if you don't plan to play high-end games, I think there is no real reason to change from SGS to SGS2.

el_navajita said:
Actually there is a race for more and more CPU cores, but SGS with ICS is really smooth, and if you don't plan to play high-end games, there is no real reason to change from SGS to SGS2.
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Agreed, saw no reason to sign up to an 18/24 month contract for the SGS2 when I don't play high end games. Genuinely have had the most pleasant time with this phone, more than any other phone I have owned and it STILL isn't letting me down, especially with Voodoo Sound. Thats why I will be getting the SGSIII. People dig at Samsung for some reason but I honestly don't know why, their phones are awesome. HTC phones are plagued with bugs and issues, the overall user satisfaction between the two is phenomenal, I didn't come close to having this feeling with HTC's phones. (Hero, HD2 & Desire).

Frankly is like comparing a Bicycle with a Motorcycle ... both have wheels, handle bars, etc but let's be realistic here.
SGS is fine, a cool phone, huge development potential but it will never be able to top a dual core that punches double the ram we have.
You can throw whatever daily scenario at it and I can bet you you will be more pleased with the SGS2 simple because you won't be annoyed by memory swapping (even with 370 MB kernels I feel the need for more RAM).
Only if you keep the ROMS clean without anything else but stock apps you will most likely wasting your money on SGS2, better yet buy an old phone that handles just calls, smartphones are for running apps.

Currently have both, and to be honest "form factor" of SI is better for me.
JW5 gingerbread + Semaphore is incredible!!!
S1 has better battery life, less lag, better colors, better sound, better development, and reached maturity where everything just works.
S2 still has a great dual core and working gps.

Thats what I said! I did notice the poor battery life on the sgs2, I swear I could almost see the battery level move as I used it...
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I don't get this???
U are saying that sgs and gs2 is equal in performance,screen resolution and so on
There is huge difference in those to phones in all aspects,gs2 is a lot better in every possible way u can think of. Don't get me wrong,i love my sgs and will never sell it,but u can't compare a sgs with a costum rom and a gs2 with stock rom, compare when both are on stock or costum rom for a fair and clear result. But even when sgs is costum and gs2 is stock the gs2 is alot better on high performance.
Btw. I've had my sgs for more than 18month and my gs2 since 11/5-2011 and my first custom rom was insanity on one of his first froyo build(0.21 i think.
Thanx
Edit:gs2 battery is poor on ics,but on ginger there's only about 30 min difference

But who wants to still be using GB? The SGS was an IS a remarkable phone, remember all that time people spent moaning when Samsung said it wasn't getting ICS? Yet here all of us are, running it smoother than ever with better battery life than the SGS2. Don't get me wrong I am not digging at the SII, its a brilliant phone and I probably would have taken it had I been due an upgrade around then, however, no one and I mean no one can slate the SGS for what its been capable of, its far surpassed most peoples expectations, including mine.

yeah our galaxy was / is a cool / great phone. but it's slowly becoming outdated in terms of performance when it comes to daily tasks and multitasking - I for one (and I repeat myself) am hurting due to low ram always.
you can barely run services in the background. add a custom keyboard and some fancy stuff and boom you will get lag. you can run FROYO, GB, ICS you name it, once ram gets "depleted" everything is slower.

Yeah I do agree that if you do have a lot running at once it can start to get sluggish, but I've personally accepted it since ICS and keep processes to a bare minimum. I suppose once I upgrade hopefully to the next Galaxy phone they bring out I'll get back into the swing of maxing out the phone but for now I'm quite content with stock ICS and just using simple tasking apps

GS3 vs One X - Can you handle the Truth?

The most beautiful minimalist phone ever produced imho, Kudos to Samsung.
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Superior R&D
Superior Audio Codec
- Wolfson Micro WM1811
Superior Video Codec
- "The SGS3 is using among the best encode parameters I've seen on a smartphone to date - 17 Mbps H.264 high profile with CABAC. - Anandtech
Superior Amoled Screen
- While text all look the same at above 300PPI [unless you view your screen with a microscope at 200X] in Multimedia Samoled is King.
Superior CPU and GPU
Infinitely better Eye Tracking! Removable Battery and SD Card Slot...er wait lol
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping
No Flex Issues
No Things rattling inside phone [seems to be "normal"]
No Screen Flickering
No Stuttering Videos
No Locked Bootloaders EVER, [HTC, don't blame AT&T]
No "First unit: Flash lens was missing. Returned for a replacement. - rpritch" wth
No "I struggled to buy a defect-less One X unit"
Superior Software & Features... not beats
Touch Wiz vs Sense
Touchwiz was one of the first if not the first to implement hardware acceleration and is one of the smoothest most resource friendly launchers. Back with gingerbread, touchwiz browser was pure butter....one of the smoothest i've ever used and definitely still one of the smoothest i've used. It's also battery efficient etc....
Sense on the otherhand is a resource hog, not very battery friendly, and mostly just looks good. Touchwiz is ugly, but there's a huge dev community for the galaxy phones so getting rid of it and flashing AOSP or anything was super simple.
As for user friendly, touchwiz is probably one of the simplest to use. Also looks kinda like iOS buttons which might help a bit but w/e. In terms of out of the box performance, samsung software > HTC software
- PewPewBangBang One X Owner
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- Anandtech Bench -
What surprises me in these benchmarks is how close the GS2 performs to the One X. Disappointing on One X' part if you ask me.
As we showed in our SGS3 performance preview, the handset is, as Samsung described it, capable of posting "superlative" benchmark numbers with its 1.4 GHz Exynos 4 Quad SoC. It goes without saying that even with TouchWiz running atop Android 4.0.4, the SGS3 is butter smooth, everywhere. - Anandtech
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June can't come soon enough!

boodies said:
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping
No Flex Issues
No Things rattling inside phone
No Screen Flickering
No Stuttering Videos
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The One X has been in available around the world for a month now, and none of those are mass reported problems. Since the SIII is not released yet or even reviewed, I can't see how you think SIII will be problem free.
I like the screen on the One X over my Note (same amoled as SIII), the colour are more accurate and its much brighter in direct sunlight. As for CPU/GPU, both are more than powerful enough to make no difference for day to day use.
Overall, apart from removable battery and micro sd card, SIII and One X are too very close to call. I think both phone will do well over the next few months. The SIII is more suited to the power users, but One X have the WOW factor the SIII lacks, which will do will with general public who don't really care about removable battery or expendable storage.

Bigmille said:
Since the SIII is not released yet or even reviewed, I can't see how you think SIII will be problem free.
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No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Flex Issues - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Things rattling inside phone - Never Happened and I trust Sammy R&D
No Screen Flickering - Super Amoled HD = GS2 had no issues
No Stuttering Videos - Proven Exynos CPU and Video Player Both made in-house by Samsung for superior cooperation.
There, happy? And yes I'd like both do to well and push Android further but this is a nerd tech phone forum, why not have some fun ^_^

Threads like this remind me a little bit about Top Gear, where they say a car can't be cool if you have to explain WHY it's cool.
With the one x, you can just show it to someone, and they will be "wow, that's cool". With the SGS3, they will think it looks ugly/bland but may be won over after you spend 5 mins telling/showing them why it's cool.
And yes, phones are all about being cool
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boodies said:
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Flex Issues - Same Material used in Previous Galaxy
No Things rattling inside phone - Never Happened and I trust Sammy R&D
No Screen Flickering - Super Amoled HD = GS2 had no issues
No Stuttering Videos - Super Amoled HD = GS2 had no issues
There, happy? And yes I'd like both do to well and push Android further but this is a nerd tech phone forum, why not have some fun ^_^
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The htc one x is a pos.
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diehard2222 said:
The htc one x is a pos.
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It's not a POS that's for sure. But there are some real issues and I don't think people should ignore them. Lets keep things a little more pro brother lol.

The rattling sound that people complain about is when they press a button and it vibrates. They think the sound of the vibration is a rattle
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*Closes eyes and shakes head* -Noooo! Now you're ruining my world! I CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

boodies said:
The most beautiful minimalist phone ever produced imho, Kudos to Samsung.
Superior R&D
Superior Audio Codec
- Wolfson Micro WM1811
Superior Video Codec
- "The SGS3 is using among the best encode parameters I've seen on a smartphone to date - 17 Mbps H.264 high profile with CABAC. - Anandtech
Superior Amoled Screen
- While text all look the same at above 300PPI [unless you view your screen with a microscope at 200X] in Multimedia Samoled is King.
Superior CPU and GPU
Infinitely better Eye Tracking! Removable Battery and SD Card Slot...er wait lol
No Build Quality Issues
No Chipping
No Flex Issues
No Things rattling inside phone [seems to be "normal"]
No Screen Flickering
No Stuttering Videos
No Locked Bootloaders EVER, [HTC, don't blame AT&T]
No "First unit: Flash lens was missing. Returned for a replacement. - rpritch" wth
No "I struggled to buy a defect-less One X unit"
Superior Software & Features... not beats
Touch Wiz vs Sense
- Anandtech Bench -
June can't come soon enough!
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The real question is can *you* handle the truth? The truth that CPU benchmarks are a pile of useless s.it that have nothing to do with real life usage experience? The truth that tegra optimized apps will always run better on the one x and there are no whatever-samsung-called-their-cpu optimized apps and won't be for quite some time? The truth that HOX has more beautiful screen than the pentile SAMOLED? The truth that difference in performance *might* be felt after a year and a half when both these phones will be old news? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the downright ugliness of the sg3? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the cheapness of the shiny plastic? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the inferior screen? The truth that after that year and a half finally passes the only apps that will show any difference will run bad on the sg3 and worse on the HOX because both will be outdated?
Can you?
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If I get a SIII I hope I don't have to see useless threads like this in this forum for the next year.

Thread will be closed i am sure in a while..These threads are not necessary. No need to make yourself feel good bro just because you are getting a new toy. Enjoy your new toy and no need to bash others just because they made another choice..Both phones are great and both have their own good points. Even though most are just gimmicks from the iphone (yes S-Voice just a copy from Siri) and really even though i love the features of the phone it still does not cry out innovating from some parts of it..anyways if i did not had my one x i would be going for the s3 cause i still believe it is a good phone but the issues you are stating about the one x not everyone has it..so best go and do your research again. Plus each time i press the water lockscreen it will probably make me wanna go and have a leak.. and on that note

First & foremost I'm an Android Fan & not brand specific and will go with who ever I believe will give me the best end user experience.
I like the One X, I also think it has a very nice display, I like sense as a UI & the unit feels nice in the hand, play with my sisters one most days even to the point where I even ordered one, which I then cancelled due to the impending SIII launch.
Now the SIII is here I have ordered one, mainly due to the larger replaceable battery, full size sim (I have other network contracts) and Micro SD Support. These three things alone kill the HOX stone dead for me and I would guess quite a number of others who have multiple handsets.
I think seriously looks a very subjective thing, but when fashion fades only style remains. In the most part these things normally end up in some sort of protective casing which renders the looks aspect moot in most cases.
In 18months time, when the you have stopped looking at it aesthetically and just use it as a day to day communication,entertainment and productivity tool, what is really going to matter?
To me it will be.
Ease of use, battery life, reliability, compatibility & decent brightness in daylight.
I'm I really going to care about the differences in terms of Screen Technology's on a day to day basis, I doubt it, its a phone at the end of the day as long as the display is good that's all the really matters personally. Not for the least part there will be something better by then the anyway.
They are both really good High end devices which will hopefully push Android even further in front of a certain fruit company.
Just my 2p

I noticed Wolfson on the your spec list. This is great! Sound quality is a major factor for me, and keeps me on my Galaxy S (AT&T Captivate). With the return of Wolfson, I may be able to upgrade this summer when it comes to AT&T.

tkolev said:
The real question is can *you* handle the truth? The truth that CPU benchmarks are a pile of useless s.it that have nothing to do with real life usage experience? The truth that tegra optimized apps will always run better on the one x and there are no whatever-samsung-called-their-cpu optimized apps and won't be for quite some time? The truth that HOX has more beautiful screen than the pentile SAMOLED? The truth that difference in performance *might* be felt after a year and a half when both these phones will be old news? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the downright ugliness of the sg3? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the cheapness of the shiny plastic? The truth that that's a year and a half you'll have to live with the inferior screen? The truth that after that year and a half finally passes the only apps that will show any difference will run bad on the sg3 and worse on the HOX because both will be outdated?
Can you?
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Here is my opinion. I think they both will be winner. I'm not saying that to make everybody else happy, its cause its the truth. Here are facts:
The one x is the best looking device without a shadow of a doubt. It looks sexy, the screen is amazing, it is really a great looking device. But unfortunately it has horrible battery life, screen issues, lag and stutter and sense while it looks beautiful is still a heavy skin. ( about the issues if you don't believe me go check the one x forum). Still it has great potential and WILL get lots of dev support so in a couple of months its gonna be a beast!
Now the Galaxy S3, honestly I like the design a lot. It isn't as beautiful as the one x but still , people are saying that it looks awesome in person. Then you got so many pros, exynos 4 quad on board , expandable storage, removable battery all in a device that is thinner than the one x. Anadtech and many others have reported the phone to be buttery smooth as expected. On top of that the phone should be easy to root ( no S-off bull crap required) all the new features Samsung introduced look great. Dev support is gonna be HUGE just like the one x will but with a boot loader easy to unlock. My personal choice is the S3 cause after I was blown away by the S2 , Samsung has won me over as a loyal customer. They both will b great especially when development takes off but I will give the edge to the s3 cause it is a performer!!!

We dont need another SGS3vsHTC whatever thread.
All general chat goes here

SGS3 vs HOX FULL NO BS REVIEW with BOTH HARDWARES

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Bottomline
GS3
Better Photos in regular lighting, and better color reproduction
Better Audio
Better Video
Better Speaker
Better GPU/CPU
Better Battery Life
Better Software
Better Gorilla Glass
Better Screen
+ Removable Batteries
+ SD Card Support
HOX
Better Photos in Low Light
More Instagram like filters...
Better Looks (They say, but this is subjective even in this picture above the GS3 looks much better personally)
More at GSM Arena
EDIT: Made some changes and corrections

I expected as much.
I believe that the key point here is that all of those differences you've listed are marginal in most areas, but having a high quality feeling and good looking phone is very important to me.
Unless those differences were huge (let's face it, they aren't), I'm struggling to look past the One X for myself.
The amount of times I'll pick up my phone and enjoy the feel of it absolutely blow away the zero times I'll care about the camera being 1% better or the phone loading a web page 000.1 second quicker.
Why can't Samsung use some intelligent designers? They really are clueless at this stuff. They've managed to make TouchWiz look even worse as well, despite adding some nice features.

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Better Storage
Removable Battery
Just read it
SGS3 is amazing
It's way way better than the HOX

haters gonna hate, where are everyone now?
GS III is purely awesome

The battery life test here is what is the most interesting. AMOLED screens use up more power than LCDs at bright colours, so it's expectable to see the S3 have only a slight margin over the HOX. The video test is the most interesting one; that's just pure obliteration beyond the 300mAh advantage. Expect the device to have on average a much better screen-on time than even that that if you optimize for the AMOLED screen, Samsung's default skin isn't quite nice in that regard. So much for Nvidia's +1 core.

This thing is proven again and again this year's best goes for samsung !! No more pointless discussion on which is the best.

GS3
So the GS3 won in Performance, Display, Battery Life, Sound Quality, Camera, Memory and most other things, in other words it mopped the floor with the One X, HTC fans are not going to like this,
Something else im impressed by is the Galaxy S2's performance in the benchmarks and Camera, absolutely incredible for a device released over a year ago, Samsung built an absolute masterpiece there.

lonelyw said:
So the GS3 won in Performance, Display, Battery Life, Sound Quality, Camera, Memory and most other things, in other words it mopped the floor with the One X, HTC fans are not going to like this,
Something else im impressed by is the Galaxy S2's performance in the benchmarks and Camera, absolutely incredible for a device released over a year ago, Samsung built an absolute masterpiece there.
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Are you the person that posted that comment? It made me cringe.
Fanboys aloof.

Dtguilds said:
Are you the person that posted that comment? It made me cringe.
Fanboys aloof.
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Lol I was reading that and I thought it's either deja vu or I've read it before
Well colour me impressed Samsung, gonna be hard deciding between the two... still don't like Touchwiz though (tried it on an ICS S2) let's see if the newer version is good enough.

Always loved touchwiz, even tho i have an P990, im sure any software issue can be fixed eventually, im more concerned about the physical issues that it may bring.

LeviathanPT said:
Always loved touchwiz, even tho i have an P990, im sure any software issue can be fixed eventually, im more concerned about the physical issues that it may bring.
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To me the home screen flinging didn't really respond to my touch, as in no matter how fast my finger moves, once I lift it it glides at its own pace. It's not very satisfying. Or maybe it was just my friend's phone that's like that...
About the defects (if that's what you mean) all phones will have some when they launch. I wait a couple months for them to iron things out.

It is extreme subjective. I have hold my buying decision when One X launched and waited for the announcement of SGS3. I still prefer SGS3 to HOX for switchable battery and microsd. They are with the same surface material. Sense UI may be better and I get used to it for years. Just wait for the arrival in my place to buy SGS3.

This is obviously a hot topic in the One X forum also. Here's what I posted there. Keep in mind I'm deciding between the two after a week or so with the SGS3. I also came from a i9100 and have a 3G UK G-Tab 10.1 so I'm no one's fanboi.
Dtguilds said:
Reviewed - So, the Galaxy S 3 IS better, but are you keeping your X?
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BarryH_GEG said:
Hmm, not really. The closing of the article summed it up best...
"Anyway, back to where we started. Two superphones, one Android crown. The HTC One X managed to come to the market first, while the Galaxy S III is a little late, but has plenty to show for it. We're tempted to play it safe and split it equal. The HTC One X: this is what a droid flagship should look like. The Samsung Galaxy S III: that's what a droid flagship should perform like. But that won't be fair to either of them. They didn't get where they are by playing it safe.
It seems obvious that the Samsung Galaxy S III wouldn't have raised as the new standard-setter without a powerful challenger like the One X. There's no consolation prize here, no second-best. A fair fight and a win-win for Android."
Some other things that struck me as relevant...
"The HTC One X is encased in a polycarbonate unibody (Gray or Black), which is matte in appearance and pleasant to the touch. The Samsung Galaxy S III is covered in glossy plastic (with Blue brushed metal look or pure white), which is durable, but not quite as nice to hold. We're not impressed by its looks either.
"On the other hand, Samsung's design allows you to change the battery allowig you to use a spare one to extend battery life or replace an old burnt-out battery with a fresh new one. Oh, and there's a microSD card slot too. Not that HTC couldn't have put a card slot into the One X, they just decided that 32GB should be enough for everyone (and it probably is)."
"Of course, not all of them are deciders. The S-Voice is a direct take on Siri, but it really fails to live up to expectations, while the NFC-based media sharing over S Beam has limited application for now. Pop-up play will rarely be used while Buddy photo share borders on useless."
So what does it come down to? Personal preference.
1) Is a removable battery and SD card slot important? Buy the SGS3.
2) Is design, construction, and feel in the hand important? Buy the One X.
3) Is low light picture and video important? Buy the One X.
4) Are more detailed pictures in bright light important? Buy the SGS3.
5) Do you like the vivid (I'm being kind) colors of AMOLED? Buy the SGS3.
6) Do you like a brighter, non-PenTile display, with more accurate color and better detailing? Buy the One X.
7) Want a better browsing experience and more audio and video codec support? Buy the SGS3.
8) Are you an avid gamer that'll be pushing the CPU and GPU regularly? Buy the SGS3.
9) Do you like TouchWiz? Buy the SGS3.
10) Do you like Sense? Buy the One X.
11) Do you listen to lossless audio over $300+ headphones or a home system that cost several thousand dollars? Pick the SGS3.
There's other differences that may matter to people but those are the main ones. I knew the SGS3 would benchmark better than the One X when I bought it. The reality is, as it stands today, the power of Teg3, S4, and Exynos-Quad are wasted because the OS and apps aren't able to tap their power. Other than bragging rights you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart performance wise; they'll "feel" the same.
My views on the main features...
1) I like the LCD2 display on the One X. After using AMOLED for a year the realistic colors, the lighter look because black backgrounds aren't used to save battery, and increased display brightness are all nice for a change.
2) The One X camera h/w is better than the SGS3's. It shows in low light settings. I'm hoping s/w tuning in future updates makes it a better all-around performer. I wouldn't ditch the One X over the camera as they don't strike me as that dramatically different from each other.
3) Audiophiles probably never considered the One X once it was announced that the SGS3 has a Wolfson DAC. An audiophile would cut off their arm before listening to compressed formats like MP3's or on anything less than high grade equipment. That makes 95% of us “non-audiophiles.” And a real audiophile would question the use of something like a smartphone as an audio output device anyway.
4) Did anyone who bought the One X not know in advance it had fixed storage and a non-replaceable battery? I'd like those features; I think anyone would. But I really like the design of the One X and if it had to look like the SGS3 in order to have them I'd pass.
5) Other than the graphics issues which are big, the One X's launch has been pretty typical from a QC perspective. I'll bet anyone here the SGS3 launch looks the same (sans graphics issues) and that display consistency will be one of the biggest *****es on their forum. The SGS2 and GN launches were far from great.
So, the short answer to OP's question, nothing in that review has changed my opinion of the One X. Look at it this way, the SGS2 crushed the Sensation. In less than a year HTC launched a phone that made GSMArena consider splitting the win. That alone is pretty impressive. Of course, YMMV and I clearly don’t expect everyone to agree with some of my comments.
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I stopped posting on the one x section, after they started calling me a troll. I don't know what exactly a troll is but I posted on 3 threads with with the words "galaxy" on the title. Im not going there to start a new thread or whatever and never have. Now that the dust has settled, lets be the bigger man.

In my own opinion these guys don't realize just how many of us have mp3 collections we want to pack on our phones. Not having the ability to get my mp3s on board makes the htc piece a non starter all by itself unless it can offset this by having an apk that makes naked supermodels spill out its guts on command.

Dtguilds said:
I expected as much.
I believe that the key point here is that all of those differences you've listed are marginal in most areas, but having a high quality feeling and good looking phone is very important to me.
Unless those differences were huge (let's face it, they aren't), I'm struggling to look past the One X for myself.
The amount of times I'll pick up my phone and enjoy the feel of it absolutely blow away the zero times I'll care about the camera being 1% better or the phone loading a web page 000.1 second quicker.
Why can't Samsung use some intelligent designers? They really are clueless at this stuff. They've managed to make TouchWiz look even worse as well, despite adding some nice features.
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differences were not huge you say?
have you seen the video comparisons?htc's looked pale as compared to sgs3's.
and the most important thing that everyone waited and wanted to know was the battery life.
"here's a curious little detail about what people are saying that amoleds use more power when displaying whites compared to other screen displays.
"The two flagships were less convincing in the browser endurance test. The HTC One X shut down just 4 hours and 18 minutes into the test and the Galaxy S III went on for 5 hours and 17 minutes. We were actually rather surprised that the S III came out on top here, knowing how badly the predominantly white web pages treat AMOLEDs.""
"Audio quality
The Samsung I9300 Galaxy s III turned out to be one of the most talented musicians around and managed to edge out the One X in the audio output quality test."
not huge difference my ...

This seems to be nearly flawless victory or smackdown (for the SIII, except screen and body imo), the photo sensor even trump the iPhone 4S. Glad to see the the audio quality is decent, that is a big factor for me.
I still don't understand Samsung decision to not use 5x5 icon rows in the home screen.

can someone explain to me why the GS3 has 4+ hour difference in movie playback? That is freakin amazing!

boodies said:
can someone explain to me why the GS3 has 4+ hour difference in movie playback? That is freakin amazing!
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the 300mah difference can't account for those 4+ hours for movie playback. lols
let those who can only attack with "ugly design" explain why the hell that is.

boodies said:
can someone explain to me why the GS3 has 4+ hour difference in movie playback? That is freakin amazing!
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Might be the amoled blacks and hardware acceleration for all codecs
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