Porting Android >1.5 to T-Mobile Pulse - Android Software Development

Hey Android hackers,
I would have an idea, and would like to ask for confirmation(or info).
So the T-Mobile Pulse has the same chipset and everything as the Magic (Qualcomm MSM7200A), what includes the wifi, gps, camera and who knows what else. We have ROM's for Magic, so my idea would be if we could use the drivers from the Magic's rom and build a kernel with the proprietary drivers for Pulse.
My questions:
-Is this possible?
-How can i start playing with the kernel compiling (I have Ubuntu 9.10)
-Witch rom should i use for driver extraction?
-else what i should be aware
Thanks,
Chronos

Did you forget about the screen size of pulse?
it has 3.5" which is higher than MT3G/Magic and plus pulse will be getting 2.0 update so wait a while.

They have the same resolution, physical size doesent matter ifiak.

I'd be interested to know too... why wait for official?
We have Android on WM based phones with working drivers so surely it's possible get the Pulse upgraded?
Would be nice to get a Pulse forum here at XDA-Devs but I don't see that happening

chronos2111 said:
They have the same resolution
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Uhh no it doesnt
Magic has: 3.2" screen
Pulse has : 3.5" screen
Res for both are same but you should wait for pulse to get 2.1 update later this year.
http://phandroid.com/t-mobile-pulse/

Ace42 said:
Uhh no it doesnt
Magic has: 3.2" screen
Pulse has : 3.5" screen
Res for both are same but you should wait for pulse to get 2.1 update later this year.
http://phandroid.com/t-mobile-pulse/
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They are both running 320x480 resolution, so it shouldnt matter,
Thats great to hear about the update though , cant wait

Ace42 said:
Uhh no it doesnt
Magic has: 3.2" screen
Pulse has : 3.5" screen
Res for both are same but you should wait for pulse to get 2.1 update later this year.
http://phandroid.com/t-mobile-pulse/
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are you sure about the update i thought the pulse was unable to upgrade as the specs are to low ??

young1 said:
are you sure about the update i thought the pulse was unable to upgrade as the specs are to low ??
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Not the phone i mean the OS layer Pulse will get w 2.1/2.0 .

Ace42 said:
Uhh no it doesnt
Magic has: 3.2" screen
Pulse has : 3.5" screen
Res for both are same but you should wait for pulse to get 2.1 update later this year.
http://phandroid.com/t-mobile-pulse/
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The size of the physical screen doesn't make a bit of difference. The resolution is the same. Just as the Liquid has a 3.5" screen and the Nexus has a 3.7". . . they're both still 480x800 resolution.

Ace42 said:
Not the phone i mean the OS layer Pulse will get w 2.1/2.0 .
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You really should just stop posting and only read because you are awful and don't know what you're talking about.

Related

Xperia X1 running Windows Mobile 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MNbmkes8Lc&feature=related
Hehe
It gives us a sense of false hope.
Man, i would love to see 7 finalized! itll prolly look too sexy for today's phones to handle
Wow? Frankly speaking, any possibilty that the video is trying to tell us SEX1 is able to run WM7?
Like maybe make a special version of WM7 for those phones without accelerometer?
Well the screen are most probably added in post-processing .. it is a professional advertisement. A lot easier than to install WM7 on device clearly under specs, and then shoot the display so it looks good.
They just take current devices to show in this video
The X1 is off: there is no lights in the hardware keyboard when in use...
hope is such a wonderfull thing ^^
Kinda like the original X1 advertisements. No way the R1 stock ROMs were as fast as those shown on the videos.
harveydent said:
Kinda like the original X1 advertisements. No way the R1 stock ROMs were as fast as those shown on the videos.
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Not that R3 is...
Needs said:
Wow? Frankly speaking, any possibilty that the video is trying to tell us SEX1 is able to run WM7?
Like maybe make a special version of WM7 for those phones without accelerometer?
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I don't really think WM7 will be too advanced for the X1, but please don't expect an OEM upgrade.
Minimum specs for WM7 contains 1GHz CPU, g-meter and compass (IIRC). Xperia is clearly not WM7 compatible.
Dr.Sid said:
Minimum specs for WM7 contains 1GHz CPU, g-meter and compass (IIRC). Xperia is clearly not WM7 compatible.
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now for 6.5 already, let alone version 7....
etegration said:
now for 6.5 already, let alone version 7....
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X1 runs 6.5 more than fine...
THESpideyWVU said:
X1 runs 6.5 more than fine...
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you can say that again, im more satisfied with my rom than the stock R3A
to Dr sid :
Really ??? that doesnt seem to make much sense ... i mean why should be the accelerometer a dependence or even more the digital compass ... they are almost useless features. one for auto rotation and the other for navigation.
about the speed ... hmm im not sure that MHz make incompatibility ... maybe the ram size can be a problem but the Mhz ... a pc can work slower or faster ... but it works in most cases, it seems extreme to go just from wm 6.5 to wm 7 ... and require double processor speed. this has never happened in any wm upgrade ... there are so many old devices running fine with wm 6.5 ... kaiser for example which has even resoultion 320x240 and came out with wm 5... so to me Xperia will be able to run wm 7 ... and i have to agree anyway that the Xperia in the adertisment is tottally turned off ....
a phone with a 1ghz processor!?
I will buy a new phone when they come out with dual core for it
Look, it doesn't matter if its going to require an accelerometer or a compass... while it'll be nice to have, there's a 99% chance that it'll get ported over for WM6.0-6.5 devices, maybe with one or two features missing. Touchflo was never supposed to run on the kaiser, let alone titanium... that phone is a great example of 3 generations of windows mobile upgrades... our devices won't be any different. I'm planning on my topaz and raphael to be running WM7 when the big day comes

Quick handson for android 2.1 on X10

Hey Guys
i made a small report about IFA in Berlin and i also tried the Android 2.1 update for X10 in a not completed state.....
you can see it here:
starts @ 3:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNAr0_24-nk
here the download link of untouched X10 handson: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9299167/00244.MTS
but please don't reupload anywhere else! or it will be the first and last time i upload an untouched video
Please post in General Section.
Besides, i see only a white picture...
I only see a white picture also.
the_black_dragon said:
Hey Guys
i made a small report about IFA in Berlin and i also tried the Android 2.1 update for X10 in a not completed state.....
you can see it here:
starts @ 3:40
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Thanks
*10 chars*
Maybe the flash starts like the comment above picture :
starts @ 3:40
?
SORRY GUYS
it was my mistake
now it should work.....
if it is in the wrong section please would a mod move it?
The lockscreen has finally changed!
Too bad you couldn't zoom a little more on your video...
chandyperry said:
Too bad you couldn't zoom a little more on your video...
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hmm yes sorry..... this is my new news portal and i still have not much experience in such things so i missed a lot of things.....
- looking for live wallpaper
- looking for multitouch *damned* (but i think its still not there)
chandyperry said:
The lockscreen has finally changed!
Too bad you couldn't zoom a little more on your video...
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Use 1080p and full screen.
Moxier still there.
New tabs in Timescape.
Bigger clock or the whole of the title bar.
As far as I can see there is a SwitchPro widget ...
5 screens - coming from Android 2.1
anything else .. ?
You should of had a laptop in your bag and dumped the Rom
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tvachev said:
Moxier still there.
New tabs in Timescape.
Bigger clock or the whole of the title bar.
As far as I can see there is a SwitchPro widget ...
5 screens - coming from Android 2.1
anything else .. ?
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It's the android power widget. Copied by switchpro and then improved with transparency and stuff.
the_black_dragon said:
- looking for multitouch *damned* (but i think its still not there)
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ehm... since it's not possible because of hardware limitations, you can stop looking...
black_math said:
It's the android power widget. Copied by switchpro and then improved with transparency and stuff.
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Thanks a lot. Did not know this.
@the_black_dragon thanks for the video
No Youtube access at work so with my X10!
Well thank you for video mate, thumbs up.
Andreas
Thanks for the video!
ahh!! didn't test the browser? or multi-touch, someone chop off my right hand and all my fingers on the left except the pointer. no multi touch test, i might as well just keep one finger. the wait is killing me. with no more than one finger multi touch wont matter
Bored God said:
ahh!! didn't test the browser? or multi-touch, someone chop off my right hand and all my fingers on the left except the pointer. no multi touch test, i might as well just keep one finger. the wait is killing me. with no more than one finger multi touch wont matter
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FFS when will people understand that multitouch will NEVER come to the x10 - it is not possible since the hardware doesn't support it!!
much faster!!!
and it seems that you can use 2 exchange accounts.... one with android itselve and one with Moxier mail that's nice....
ne new tab in Timescape is XING!

Removing 65k color limit?

Now that Android can be installed from NAND, I had assumed that the problem with the screen only displaying 65k colors would be fixed. It still isn't, is there a known way to fix it or any progress being made to fix it? At the very least, is it known what the issue is? I thought it was a problem with WM utilizing only 65k of the screen and that carried over to android when it was run over WM, but now that WM is eliminated that's obviously not it. Anyone know?
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ShotSkydiver said:
Now that Android can be installed from NAND, I had assumed that the problem with the screen only displaying 65k colors would be fixed. It still isn't, is there a known way to fix it or any progress being made to fix it? At the very least, is it known what the issue is? I thought it was a problem with WM utilizing only 65k of the screen and that carried over to android when it was run over WM, but now that WM is eliminated that's obviously not it. Anyone know?
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someone correct me if am wrong but is the screen hardware it self only capable of displaying 65K.
jagger2k said:
someone correct me if am wrong but is the screen hardware it self only capable of displaying 65K.
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There was a discussion about this back in 2010: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807307
Some say its 262K. Others 265K or 16M. It's all very vague.
According to Microsoft its 262k
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/6/phones.aspx#detail=1366
I hope someone sheds some light on this, gradients look awful on my screen.
shadiku said:
I hope someone sheds some light on this, gradients look awful on my screen.
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Seriously, it's the only thing holding me back from using this phone full-time. You can see a great example of it in the widgets.
I agree, widgets look terrible, specifically news and weather widgets (genie.apk), power control, etc (anything with the black gradient background).
However, they only look bad on some launchers (on launcher pro, for example, with high quality scrolling turned on, widgets look exactly how they are meant to look - somehow launcher pro manages to 'smooth' the gradient).
I think this should be made a priority as the banding is very visible in many apps, and especially when watching videos on the device. It is very noticeable in the new gingerbread ROMs, which make use of more subtle gradients (take the notifications bar, the phone application for example) - fixing this issue would bring android on the HD2 up to a whole new level!
I'm going to do some digging and see what I can find...
i dont think we can improve the screen to much higher than what is meant to be.if you have a normal plasma tv.you cant watch 3d movies from it,because it was not intended for 3d.same thing with the hd2 screen.
justwonder said:
According to Microsoft its 262k
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/6/phones.aspx#detail=1366
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But isnt that always MS's way of looking at things, being conservative opposed to using the capabilities? MS has never used anything to its fullest capacity, they are always on the reserved side so to them less means better compatibility and less issues. I wouldnt go based on MS's articles or opinions, I think the best to answer the screen capability would be HTC - the maker.
But thats just my opinion.
For me, some sense builds look more colorful than others do.
is it possible that these builds make use of the displays capability?
Cause when I use Froyo everything seems to be paler and less colorful.
And its not just the wallpaper..
This is a concern of mine aswell, I hope it really is not a hardware limitation
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MS said that LEO suqqort 262k.
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I thought that limitation was just because that's all WM6.5 could handle. I'd be surprised if the screen couldn't handle 16.7million colours. It's just a standard TFT device after all.
Perhaps it comes down to drivers?
jonboyuk said:
Perhaps it comes down to drivers?
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Maybe it was regulated somewhere in IPL or SPL? Because we just use IPL, SPL and radio to boot android...

[Q] HD2 Color Depth under Android

Under WP6.5 they tell about 65k color depth - okay, I don't mind anymore
But: is this the WP limit and or hardware based.
I ask because under Android (MIUI) sometimes I see color artifacts at pictures wich I dont have at the same picture on my pc.
So what do we get from this fabulous phone?
The color depth is hardware based.
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Thanks - and is it the 65k or more?
I've heard the screen supports 16M colours, n_hoss once posted a link to tech specs (I believe 't was on the official HTC site). The crappy colour gradients are quite eye-catching imo, so I'm definitely down for an upgrade!
im sure n_hoss only posted that our screen was capable of 262k? Please correct me if im wrong
Ricey
ricey1986 said:
im sure n_hoss only posted that our screen was capable of 262k? Please correct me if im wrong
Ricey
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You're absolutely right, I don't know why this 16M value keeps popping up in my head, I think I got it from Photoshop or something alike.
Here's the link hoss_n2 posted: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/6/phones.aspx#detail=1366
And for the record, link to the original thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807307
so we are finally with "480x800 (Screen colors: HW LCD supports 262K, OS support 65 K)"
ok - thx

[SOLVED]Split screen

Hi again,
i have problem, my hp pavilion dv5 have 1280x800 screen and i cannot split screen in windows 8 like on screenshot. I know i must have min.1366x768 screen but maybe there is option to unlock this option in lower resolution.
Possible I guess. By using the resolution hack, I think you may achieve split screen. It's using the netbook screen res method, you hack the registry to show more screen resolution options. Gives you more, but it looks cramped, blurry, with uneven pixel density. That's putting more pixels than the actual screen may support. Another method you can use is plugging an external display that supports 1366x768 and up. This will definitely allow you to have that split screen.
NeuroXT said:
Possible I guess. By using the resolution hack, I think you may achieve split screen. It's using the netbook screen res method, you hack the registry to show more screen resolution options. Gives you more, but it looks cramped, blurry, with uneven pixel density. That's putting more pixels than the actual screen may support. Another method you can use is plugging an external display that supports 1366x768 and up. This will definitely allow you to have that split screen.
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res registry hack doesn't work anymore. Haven't found a way to do this yet.
Okay, solved. If you have nVidia you can add other resolution via nVidia Control Panel. Now I can split on my 1280x800 screen with resolution 1366x856
ATI Radion HD?
Hi all
I have the same native resolution as the OP but my laptop has an ATI Radion HD graphics card.
Does anybody know how to add an additional resolution with this type of card?
Thanks and God bless
andrew-in-woking
Check ATI software, maybe there is option to add the "adjusted resolution".
I checked it in nVidia software and Intel also ( HD 3000 ), and i can add other resolution ( higher than native ).
Regards
I use an nVidia based Graphics Card and this is how I change my resolution, in case anyone wanted to try it out! And yes, snapping works perfectly after this but your monitor might not display it all very clearly.
I have a Dell monitor as you can see in the screenshot running on a native resolution of 1280x1024, just like the OP's! \
After changing the resolution from 720p to 768 by my Radeon,its looking bad,I wanna know that, it shud look bad isn't it,I mean it's obvious to look bad in upgraded or downgraded resolution?can't we do sumthing 2 run those apps in 720p,well if sum1 mod the apps into compatible resolution...well this may b a noobie question,well I don't wanna use those apps in BAD LOOKING SCREEN THAT'S ALL
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How?
Anime13 said:
After changing the resolution from 720p to 768 by my Radeon,its looking bad,I wanna know that, it shud look bad isn't it,I mean it's obvious to look bad in upgraded or downgraded resolution?can't we do sumthing 2 run those apps in 720p,well if sum1 mod the apps into compatible resolution...well this may b a noobie question,well I don't wanna use those apps in BAD LOOKING SCREEN THAT'S ALL
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Hi Anime13
Can you share how you changed the resolution with the radion card?
Thanks and God bless
andrew-in-woking
Anime13 said:
After changing the resolution from 720p to 768 by my Radeon,its looking bad,I wanna know that, it shud look bad isn't it,I mean it's obvious to look bad in upgraded or downgraded resolution?can't we do sumthing 2 run those apps in 720p,well if sum1 mod the apps into compatible resolution...well this may b a noobie question,well I don't wanna use those apps in BAD LOOKING SCREEN THAT'S ALL
Served By XDA app From Nazomi (LT26i)
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What I have observed from using Split Screen is that, each app has a minimum running width of 1024px wide, anything lower and it will look cropped and uneven. So even if somehow the people at XDA bypass that option and allow snapping at lower resolutions, it will still look bad.
It's not such a great feature either, you keep getting confused on what's running and hard to concentrate on one app when there are two taking up the screen. Multitasking was made for the desktop version and it should stay that way in my opinion

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