http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MNbmkes8Lc&feature=related
Hehe
It gives us a sense of false hope.
Man, i would love to see 7 finalized! itll prolly look too sexy for today's phones to handle
Wow? Frankly speaking, any possibilty that the video is trying to tell us SEX1 is able to run WM7?
Like maybe make a special version of WM7 for those phones without accelerometer?
Well the screen are most probably added in post-processing .. it is a professional advertisement. A lot easier than to install WM7 on device clearly under specs, and then shoot the display so it looks good.
They just take current devices to show in this video
The X1 is off: there is no lights in the hardware keyboard when in use...
hope is such a wonderfull thing ^^
Kinda like the original X1 advertisements. No way the R1 stock ROMs were as fast as those shown on the videos.
harveydent said:
Kinda like the original X1 advertisements. No way the R1 stock ROMs were as fast as those shown on the videos.
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Not that R3 is...
Needs said:
Wow? Frankly speaking, any possibilty that the video is trying to tell us SEX1 is able to run WM7?
Like maybe make a special version of WM7 for those phones without accelerometer?
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I don't really think WM7 will be too advanced for the X1, but please don't expect an OEM upgrade.
Minimum specs for WM7 contains 1GHz CPU, g-meter and compass (IIRC). Xperia is clearly not WM7 compatible.
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Minimum specs for WM7 contains 1GHz CPU, g-meter and compass (IIRC). Xperia is clearly not WM7 compatible.
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now for 6.5 already, let alone version 7....
etegration said:
now for 6.5 already, let alone version 7....
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X1 runs 6.5 more than fine...
THESpideyWVU said:
X1 runs 6.5 more than fine...
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you can say that again, im more satisfied with my rom than the stock R3A
to Dr sid :
Really ??? that doesnt seem to make much sense ... i mean why should be the accelerometer a dependence or even more the digital compass ... they are almost useless features. one for auto rotation and the other for navigation.
about the speed ... hmm im not sure that MHz make incompatibility ... maybe the ram size can be a problem but the Mhz ... a pc can work slower or faster ... but it works in most cases, it seems extreme to go just from wm 6.5 to wm 7 ... and require double processor speed. this has never happened in any wm upgrade ... there are so many old devices running fine with wm 6.5 ... kaiser for example which has even resoultion 320x240 and came out with wm 5... so to me Xperia will be able to run wm 7 ... and i have to agree anyway that the Xperia in the adertisment is tottally turned off ....
a phone with a 1ghz processor!?
I will buy a new phone when they come out with dual core for it
Look, it doesn't matter if its going to require an accelerometer or a compass... while it'll be nice to have, there's a 99% chance that it'll get ported over for WM6.0-6.5 devices, maybe with one or two features missing. Touchflo was never supposed to run on the kaiser, let alone titanium... that phone is a great example of 3 generations of windows mobile upgrades... our devices won't be any different. I'm planning on my topaz and raphael to be running WM7 when the big day comes
Related
http://gizmodo.com/5471805/windows-phone-7-series-everything-is-different-now
As the Gizmodo article says on multitasking:
1. It has the ability.
2. we going to make sure that 3rd parties can bring their value to the user even when the app is not running. Live tiles are an example. Data feeds in the hubs are another example.
Which means that the multitasking will be different from what we know. As an example we now know the task manager and as on XP we now the window is back or minimized. On this only the core of the app will be active and will send the data to another UI (Tile) or to the HUB...
How free this will be??? We will see.
But if they limit it and it's not hackable than I will buy an iphone or Go to android...
They can't build a such strict OS when they have all these different HW platforms that need OEM SW on the BKGRD... How they will solve this??? Not to mention Mobile Phone providers...
So i believe we all panicking without a reason. But it's good in case they had Multitasking off... they have time to turn it on after seeing all these...
Didn't they made a survey??? They only asked iphone user's??? tststs
I don't think they want another VISTA on their Hand's...
Ah well, it'll never work properly on our HD's so we will all need new devices for Win7Mob.
Plus apps from WM 6.1 and 6.5 will not work
wont work?
Hi, I dont see any reason why it wont work on our HD's, there may be performance issues but it should work, you underestimate the power of the XDA cook...!
also, Later reports suggest that all apps will be backward compatible albeit with a UI change.
dont rule out win7 yet...!
stoolzo said:
Hi, I dont see any reason why it wont work on our HD's, there may be performance issues but it should work, you underestimate the power of the XDA cook...!
also, Later reports suggest that all apps will be backward compatible albeit with a UI change.
dont rule out win7 yet...!
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The HD doesnt have a capacitative screen, required for Win7Mob. Slow cpu, and slow flash ram under minimum spec again.
I'm sure a light version of 7 could be ported, but it would be so slow, there wouldn't be any point in it.
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The HD doesnt have a capacitative screen, required for Win7Mob. Slow cpu, and slow flash ram under minimum spec again.
I'm sure a light version of 7 could be ported, but it would be so slow, there wouldn't be any point in it.
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only time will tell
"Which means that the multitasking will be different from what we know."
which sounds very much like notifcations like iphones do which is not really multi-tasking
Rudegar said:
"Which means that the multitasking will be different from what we know."
which sounds very much like notifcations like iphones do which is not really multi-tasking
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Yes, that night be a problem for some people, there may be ways around this though, we'll have to wait and see or stick with 6.5
wp7 impossiple on hd even impossible on hd2
hoss_n2 said:
wp7 impossiple on hd even impossible on hd2
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It's not "impossible" for the HD2, as it's going to be officially released for that phone.
HD Mini will be the first WM with HVGA screen.
Will applications, which are made for QVGA and WVGA compatible with HVGA?
I have thought of this problum
I find a idea which may solve the problum
QVGA is 240x320
hVGA is 320x480
VGA is 480x640
so we use the tool WVGAfix to change hVGA device to QVGA and run QVGA's program
Sorry for my English
I'm form HK and I am a form 1 student
This is WVGAfix
alexplore said:
I have thought of this problum
I find a idea which may solve the problum
QVGA is 240x320
hVGA is 320x480
VGA is 480x640
so we use the tool WVGAfix to change hVGA device to QVGA and run QVGA's program
Sorry for my English
I'm form HK and I am a form 1 student
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Know that Mini is not out yet but did anyone try this already with another device?
chiman said:
HD Mini will be the first WM with HVGA screen.
Will applications, which are made for QVGA and WVGA compatible with HVGA?
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tAcer also has an HVGA device: http://www.gsmarena.com/acer_neotouch_p400-3155.php
i'm interested with the hd mini. i hope more applications will support this sreen resolution.
greatbal said:
tAcer also has an HVGA device: http://www.gsmarena.com/acer_neotouch_p400-3155.php
i'm interested with the hd mini. i hope more applications will support this sreen resolution.
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Hmm, "soon" WM 7 will be out and all developers will jump on this since new software needs to be made......WM 7 is not backward compatible.......risk is that not much will be done for this phone .....
that's my thought too.
if every single app has to be rewritten: why should one develop for windows mobile? why not moving on to android and stuff?
this could get aweful.
Xenograph said:
that's my thought too.
if every single app has to be rewritten: why should one develop for windows mobile? why not moving on to android and stuff?
this could get aweful.
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Hmmm you made me thinking .....will have a check on adroid.....on the other hand if WM7 is a cracker (and microsoft makes finally good mobile software) we can wait for that. Numerous apps will come available via windows marketplace and XDA ofcourse.....
I have theese considerations too, and my good old Iolite soon needs to be replaced.
However I think WP7S and devices will need so time to mature.
Meanwhile I'll stick to WM 6.5.
Wish that the CPU was 768MHz instead of that old 600MHz.
But I still think that I will buy the HD mini. The HD2 i too big for me, and after watching alot of HD2 videos on youtube(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOV7PH3J0j0), I must say that it really dossent impress me that much.
alexplore said:
This is WVGAfix
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But how does it work?? I install this .cab and, after this, my screen resolution is changed?? And how can i return to original resolution??
I put the phone can not run properly
My phone is htc mini
For titan 1939
Hello,
Can you say me if your htc hd mini have a digitale compass like Htc HD2 ?
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privategun69 said:
Hello,
Can you say me if your htc hd mini have a digitale compass like Htc HD2 ?
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Yesy, it should:
http://www.mobilegazette.com/htc-hd-mini-10x02x16.htm
HTC Hd mini
Hello,
For all, i call HTC CUSTOMERS and The HTC HD MINI doesnt have any digital compass.
So my choice is HTC desire ;-)
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Hello, I have just purchased HD mini. My previuos phone was Diamond 2. I found out that most of applications which run on Diamond 2 don't run on Mini properly because of different screen resolution. WVGAFix.cab mentioned above does nothing. When I launch it, it just states: Sorry, WVGAFIX3 can't run on your system! Is there anything to do about it? Can anybody help?
Thanks
Probably the only thing you can do is to email the developers of your applications and ask them if they intend supporting HVGA devices. On the optimistic side, HVGA is one of only two resolutions that will be supported under WP7, so if they're porting to WP7, they'll be doing the graphics work they need anyway. Just a question of whether they think there's money to be made from the last WM6.5 device.
cencul said:
.. I found out that most of applications which run on Diamond 2 don't run on Mini properly because of different screen resolution. ..
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Hello,
I'm thinking to buy one of this HD Mini, but before I want to make sure most of the applications run properly! And in special TomTom ..
I know that the question is also in another thread, but could you please confirm if it works properly?
Thanks in advance.
alexplore said:
This is WVGAfix
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The file is incompatible with HD mini.
I suppose I will never have the fone with everything so I will settle for a very good one.. ..two..[E71 Black (hackd 2 pieces) & HD mini]. I am disappointed in the small amount of apps I have found so far (especially disapointed with the Max Manilla incompatibility). For that & the like, the HD2 is worth its size but I would sacrifice the compass for the size reduction.
Is there a way around this screen resolution issue then??
BetoX said:
Hello,
I'm thinking to buy one of this HD Mini, but before I want to make sure most of the applications run properly! And in special TomTom ..
I know that the question is also in another thread, but could you please confirm if it works properly?
Thanks in advance.
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@Betox;
I've installed TomTom 7.910 on my HD mini and it's runs without a problem.
Just search the internet for 'TomTom_7.910.9185 QVGA Black'. Obtaining the maps shouldn't be a big problem either...
Is anyone cooking the latest WM 6.5 ROMs for HVGA (or is screen resolution even an issue with ROMs)?
Hi all,
Just want to say some things about the xperiax1. Don't get me wrong, its a great phone but not many xperiax1 users are left.
And now even the X1 forum is left in a stagnant state with few posts. Not much custom roms are left, and the android builds have almost stopped completely. Developers have got new phones and switched to another forum. Sadly most users followed suit. That leaves us few who are die hard fans. Even support from Sony Ericsson has long gone.
Well i also confess that I myself have also obtained an HD2 and is happily running an android rom from nand (internal storage), I will still keep my X1i as spare. Hope that the last X1 users still keep using the X1.
Anyone has any thoughts? Pls share...
I'm quite happy user of X1 (although I have some mechanical problems with phone turning off randomly) and I'm satisfied with it. I think that most of the winmo devices are in some stagnation because of Android and WP7
but the existing roms are good enough and there is some android dvelopment here and on the neopeek.com
Some builds are ready for everyday use like FRX04 or CM6.1 but withsome problem like no camera or locking buttons but development is done on this.
So... I'm almost big fan, I like my X1, it nice in use, looks 'pro' and it was my first real smartphone
But almost 2 years is century in consumer electronics, especially in phones o If it would be possible, i'd like to change X1. But, for now, I dont have money.
heck, I just bought another x1 (see sig below) far as I'm concerened not to many of the new phonees outshine the x1, but yeah times change, screens get bigger and people move on.....however I'll keep flashing old roms and keep my x1 even after I make the leap.
SEX1 forever
strboy said:
heck, I just bought another x1 (see sig below) far as I'm concerened not to many of the new phonees outshine the x1, but yeah times change, screens get bigger and people move on.....however I'll keep flashing old roms and keep my x1 even after I make the leap.
SEX1 forever
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Good to hear that, but all I want to have is an android platform. X1 android development is without post for days of new kernel/build. Even my favourite custom rom developer had stopped due to his X1 being stolen. Guess its almost a necessity to change...
826x rom
calvinfoo said:
Good to hear that, but all I want to have is an android platform. X1 android development is without post for days of new kernel/build. Even my favourite custom rom developer had stopped due to his X1 being stolen. Guess its almost a necessity to change...
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826 x rom still continuing until now... Im using the new Rom wm6.5 build 29007 with sense 2019... and new stock spl 0.78. its more stabel and good/long batery life...
Xperia X1 till death!
ilgreco112 said:
Xperia X1 till death!
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yes.... Xperia X1 till death...
I'm very happy with my X1. maybe it's old device, maybe it comes with old OS (WM6.1), maybe it have some crack issues (mine don't have any). but anyway i love my device. I don't care about how many custom ROMs for this device, but I now there're good ROM series - gtrab's PURE, BAROBONE; Willy's 826x ROMs, ultrashot's Dynamics ROMs.
For short time i used HD2, but I can say none of WM devices as good as X1.
I love its keyboard and using it so much! even best HTC phones like - HD2, Desire, Desire HD, Nexus One, Nexus S don't have any hardware keyboard.
I don't think to change my X1 for now. I don't think to sell or change it to another device.
The only device is SE XPeria Pro that I plan to buy as primary device.
ilgreco112 said:
Xperia X1 till death!
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YEAH!!!
Love my xperia x1...
This has been my first windows phone and I have loved it since i bought it.It has really taught me how much freedom is actually there to customize and alter the looks and feel if you put your mind to it... WinMo 6-6.5 just rocks when it come to customisation and i dont think the android community is stagnant.... slow maybe but what would you expect for a phone which just barely cuts through the bar of being a smartphone in this era of superpowered mobiles.
I love my X1 !!! You can do soo much to it xD .. It's highly customisable. At the moment i am running the latest 826x wm6.5 build 29007 with sense 2019 also dual booting with 2.2.2 froyo
X1 can easily handle android rom, but offcourse it will never be as fast as the other phones out there. Just need someone to come out with a perfect ROM for x1 which works for all.
X1 is just perfect . Yes, its customisable, best keyboard and it looks cool with metal design. Screen to use with all weathers.
And next going to test some roms.
Got this phone today used for 50 bucks.
I'm playing with it a lot. It's highly customizable and I love the hardware keyboard.
The best would be having a complete working android froyo version without any compatibility issue to be used every day.
I hope programmers don't stop working on this high quality phone
what android rom most stable and smooth? I just can't find best one from these.
important for me. Camera, bt, wifi, smooth and good battery life.
ramhead said:
what android rom most stable and smooth? I just can't find best one from these.
important for me. Camera, bt, wifi, smooth and good battery life.
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There plenty of roms around which are all good..you will just have to try which one works best on ur X1 as it varies alot. My X1 works with gingerbread alpha5 ..
For camera there are many kernels around but i dnt think the quality is that good yet
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Hai all,
Windows Phone 7 can run in HD2..
Can someone tell me if its possible to run WIndows Phone 7 on Touch HD, if the HD2 Rom is reworked according to HTC Touch HD..??
I am begging our Super Chefs to cook a ROM of Windows Phone 7 for the Touch HD.....Please.....
As some winmo 7 phones only have 3.7 inch, it shud work on Touch hd...isnt..?
Also Processor can be adjusted by clocking..isnt it..?
I am not suure though...
Please discuss...
Thanks..
Surely it is possible, and not so hard as it would seem to be.
And sure, HD hardware is capable, but it would be a bit laggy at times.
The problem is that xda lacks dev support.
Are you serious, tell me you are joking?! The Touch hD Will 100% not run Wp7. it doesn't fill the chassis 1 requirement. it has a resistivetouch screen. NO EXISTING WM PHONE CAN UPGRADE TO WP7 (THEY ALL AVE RESISTVIVE SCREENS) apart from hd2
I'm sure this ha been posted many times before.
Dude, resistive screen is no drawback, true some function wouldn't easily be implemented like pinch to zoom, but its NOT impossible. As I said, devs are lacking will to do anything for older phones and that's the REAL issue. Deal with it.
retsam88 said:
Dude, resistive screen is no drawback, true some function wouldn't easily be implemented like pinch to zoom, but its NOT impossible. As I said, devs are lacking will to do anything for older phones and that's the REAL issue. Deal with it.
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True, no devs will support 'old devices' Get your facts right before posting. As part of the hardware requorements, the Chassis 1 minumum requires uliti touch capacitive screens. wp7 WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED ON TOUCH HD! unless someone smart enough can rewrite the touch drivers and digitilizers to match the resistibve screen which i think is VERY DIFFICULT and highly unlikely to happened.. most apps require multitouc
h.
Do some research.
You might also consider that devs lack time to support everything.
but i think will work, becoz android is a mutitouch capacitive screen software, and still the android (even with sense) works in Touch HD...
So windows phone 7 should work....I hope...
Anyway I got windows phone 7 working in touch HD using throttlelauncher, it is exact same as WP7 in front page, and some pages are actual one...
I am happy with it...
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but i think will work, becoz android is a mutitouch capacitive screen software, and still the android (even with sense) works in Touch HD...
So windows phone 7 should work....I hope...
Anyway I got windows phone 7 working in touch HD using throttlelauncher, it is exact same as WP7 in front page, and some pages are actual one...
I am happy with it...
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Could you tell us how you got it to work?
This the youtube video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqwrw4fwxAM
Download and Install the Windows Phone 7 Here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859799
Remember to Use Activesync to transfer files.....it doesnt work if you copy from memory card.
Can someone tell me will it work if I install the windows 7 for HD2 on Touch HD from memory card?
MagicMans said:
Can someone tell me will it work if I install the windows 7 for HD2 on Touch HD from memory card?
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You are incorrect. Android is not designed for capacitive. it was designed for both resistive and capacitive. There are many resisitve touch screeens running amdroid natively. But WP7 was designed ONLY for capacitive. Try installing it from your SD card then... But you will only result with a non-bootable bricked device...
I highly highly doubt WP7 will be possible on any other wm device (apart from Hd2)
lol.... i knew that i would brick it...
But there are no resistive screen android devices....is there..?
MagicMans said:
lol.... i knew that i would brick it...
But there are no resistive screen android devices....is there..?
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There are MANY resisitive android devices. LG Optimus GT505, Alcattel etx...
MagicMans said:
This the youtube video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqwrw4fwxAM
Download and Install the Windows Phone 7 Here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859799
Remember to Use Activesync to transfer files.....it doesnt work if you copy from memory card.
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That's just a theme for winmo 6.5
In this video, we take a look at the latest version of Fireslave's Windows Phone 7 theme for Windows Mobile 6.5.
the windows phone 7 link is just a theme. It doesn't actually give you windows 7 capabilities. It's pretty good though, however the Froyo X Red build is now a very clean and fast build, and is much faster than this windows phone 7 THEME if you ask me.
Android is THE way forward
i agree about android. however, i must say, i actually prefer a good windows phone 7 theme to the actual OS, because it comes with a lot of functuality and the slick interface, without actually having all the restrictions of windows phone 7, like the lack of windows mobile app support, copy & paste and a system wide file and registry explorer. actually i love, that i am able to send anything (even cabs and mp3) to other phones through bluetooth and other great freedoms, that come with the old winmo. even more a reason to hope for a fully working android on the blackstone. it offers the great 3rd party app support of wp7 or ios with many freedoms and full customizability.
Chef_Tony said:
i agree about android. however, i must say, i actually prefer a good windows phone 7 theme to the actual OS, because it comes with a lot of functuality and the slick interface, without actually having all the restrictions of windows phone 7, like the lack of windows mobile app support, copy & paste and a system wide file and registry explorer. actually i love, that i am able to send anything (even cabs and mp3) to other phones through bluetooth and other great freedoms, that come with the old winmo. even more a reason to hope for a fully working android on the blackstone. it offers the great 3rd party app support of wp7 or ios with many freedoms and full customizability.
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+1 file sharing is a great must have for me. Is this possible with amdroid?
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA App
MagicMans said:
This the youtube video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqwrw4fwxAM
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looks nice
Is there anything sepcial in WP7 other than live tiles..
I used the theme for 1 day....it is good to scroll down and up...then go to pages etc....but there is nothing to do in it.....in android u can do so many things..
Do u know anyother specialities of windows phone 7..?
i'll try it... nice info..
Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
I started watching this video and then he started talking. Clothes instantly came off.
Benicio del Toro??????
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Great video! What ROM are you using?
Sent from my Desire HD
Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
This video actually doesn't prove a thing. You usually don't see much of a difference unless you did something more resource heavy than what I saw him do in the video.
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
nemo09 said:
Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
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It's using Primo s v3.5 as you can see when he gos to the software version
Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
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Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
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1- little difference.
2- nothing is perfect, even htc's last oficial rom was buggy
3- of course there are glitches, devs here are either porting from other phones or building from ground up and doing a hell of a good job.
4- and yeah, I do agree with your initial statement - but that is not the issue as stated beforehand.
Sent from a dream.
Don't get me wrong, I also think we should get ICS or even JB. I believe that it would run like hell on our DHDs. I'm only saying that you can't compare those two phones barely on such mundane tasks like opening an sms app or launching facebook. The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
Try running these two through a benchmark or measure the framerate on some gameloft games (Asphalt, GT Motor Academy etc.) the difference will be huge.
Quite frankly, to me the only viable reason for us is the fact that HTC One V (or One S) is actually the same phone as our DHD but with ****ty camera, and that thing is getting ICS. So if the same hardware with worse camera can operate sufficiently under ICS why can't the DHD. It obviously is a scam on us customers to make us leave the great device that we have and go spend our money on some new HTC phone. If you ask me that whole thing with ICS helped me with a decision, I know now that my next phone will not be HTC, probably SGS III or Note 2, at least they get support.
haerigrek said:
The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
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Yes, but both devices use same software so its only the matter of hardware (and cpu scheduler) how fast they unlock But yea, it clearly did not proove anything besides that Desire HD can run Ice Cream Sandwich like big phones can. I think that was the point?
Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
haerigrek said:
Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
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Comparing windows to android is like comparing a toyota to a benz.
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The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
haerigrek said:
The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
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I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
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Teichopsia said:
I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
Sent from a dream.
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You are correct. Because every update does not make the system resource heavy, but its optimized so it runs smoother and buttery good, like jelly bean. Its not like windows - they are heavier and heavier because they want people to buy new computers. Remember - windows has 85% sales when people buy windows preinstalled on computers. You cant compare it with android or cars (cars and engine - you are talking hardware here, we are all about software)
miHah said:
Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
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I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
HTC should learn something from this.. The developers in XDA can do this so why cant the engineers at HTC??
They should hire their developers from XDA
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I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
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In video it was pointed out that all setting on both phones are the same, so its all matter of harware how the phones perform.
ErnestoD said:
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
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We all know HTC i not being sincere by saying we wont have a nice experience on ICS... Its just some marketing decisions.. Stupid company..