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Hey Android hackers,
I would have an idea, and would like to ask for confirmation(or info).
So the T-Mobile Pulse has the same chipset and everything as the Magic (Qualcomm MSM7200A), what includes the wifi, gps, camera and who knows what else. We have ROM's for Magic, so my idea would be if we could use the drivers from the Magic's rom and build a kernel with the proprietary drivers for Pulse.
My questions:
-Is this possible?
-How can i start playing with the kernel compiling (I have Ubuntu 9.10)
-Witch rom should i use for driver extraction?
-else what i should be aware
Thanks,
Chronos
Did you forget about the screen size of pulse?
it has 3.5" which is higher than MT3G/Magic and plus pulse will be getting 2.0 update so wait a while.
They have the same resolution, physical size doesent matter ifiak.
I'd be interested to know too... why wait for official?
We have Android on WM based phones with working drivers so surely it's possible get the Pulse upgraded?
Would be nice to get a Pulse forum here at XDA-Devs but I don't see that happening
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They have the same resolution
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Uhh no it doesnt
Magic has: 3.2" screen
Pulse has : 3.5" screen
Res for both are same but you should wait for pulse to get 2.1 update later this year.
http://phandroid.com/t-mobile-pulse/
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Uhh no it doesnt
Magic has: 3.2" screen
Pulse has : 3.5" screen
Res for both are same but you should wait for pulse to get 2.1 update later this year.
http://phandroid.com/t-mobile-pulse/
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They are both running 320x480 resolution, so it shouldnt matter,
Thats great to hear about the update though , cant wait
Ace42 said:
Uhh no it doesnt
Magic has: 3.2" screen
Pulse has : 3.5" screen
Res for both are same but you should wait for pulse to get 2.1 update later this year.
http://phandroid.com/t-mobile-pulse/
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are you sure about the update i thought the pulse was unable to upgrade as the specs are to low ??
young1 said:
are you sure about the update i thought the pulse was unable to upgrade as the specs are to low ??
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Not the phone i mean the OS layer Pulse will get w 2.1/2.0 .
Ace42 said:
Uhh no it doesnt
Magic has: 3.2" screen
Pulse has : 3.5" screen
Res for both are same but you should wait for pulse to get 2.1 update later this year.
http://phandroid.com/t-mobile-pulse/
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The size of the physical screen doesn't make a bit of difference. The resolution is the same. Just as the Liquid has a 3.5" screen and the Nexus has a 3.7". . . they're both still 480x800 resolution.
Ace42 said:
Not the phone i mean the OS layer Pulse will get w 2.1/2.0 .
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You really should just stop posting and only read because you are awful and don't know what you're talking about.
Since the HD2 has a 265k color display, why do we not take advantage of it since WinMo is gone?
When WinMo starts, the OS soft limitation is 65k colors and it stays that way even when loading android from SD card.
Once you flash NAND, WinMo limitation is gone... So why doesn't anyone update the drivers to allow 265k, maybe compare the HD2 drivers to a phone similar to it with 265k unlocked?
I mean you can definitely tell a difference unless you are blind.. No hard feelings...
One way to tell is looking at the notification bar when you open it, the notification's background look bad but when you take a screenshot and view it on your pc, it looks perfect.
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Cerv3r said:
Since the HD2 has a 265k color display, why do we not take advantage of it since WinMo is gone?
When WinMo starts, the OS soft limitation is 65k colors and it stays that way even when loading android from SD card.
Once you flash NAND, WinMo limitation is gone... So why doesn't anyone update the drivers to allow 265k, maybe compare the HD2 drivers to a phone similar to it with 265k unlocked?
I mean you can definitely tell a difference unless you are blind.. No hard feelings...
One way to tell is looking at the notification bar when you open it, the notification's background look bad but when you take a screenshot and view it on your pc, it looks perfect.
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its possible i suppose,howver HD2 has same sceen as EVO,both pump out 65k,dont think there users are running at 265k but i have been testing NAND Desire HD rom with screen on Full res,is slightly brighter and colours stand out a little more than when it was booting up from SD,you woulda needed it full res from SD and Nand to notice a slight difference tho,at the end of the day its only TFT Lcd,if you compare it with a Amoled,youll deffinently notice
My girlfriend has a galaxy s.. Do yoi know how jealous I am because of her screen.. Makes me want to downgrade.... Yes I said downgrade lol..
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Now that Android can be installed from NAND, I had assumed that the problem with the screen only displaying 65k colors would be fixed. It still isn't, is there a known way to fix it or any progress being made to fix it? At the very least, is it known what the issue is? I thought it was a problem with WM utilizing only 65k of the screen and that carried over to android when it was run over WM, but now that WM is eliminated that's obviously not it. Anyone know?
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Now that Android can be installed from NAND, I had assumed that the problem with the screen only displaying 65k colors would be fixed. It still isn't, is there a known way to fix it or any progress being made to fix it? At the very least, is it known what the issue is? I thought it was a problem with WM utilizing only 65k of the screen and that carried over to android when it was run over WM, but now that WM is eliminated that's obviously not it. Anyone know?
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someone correct me if am wrong but is the screen hardware it self only capable of displaying 65K.
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someone correct me if am wrong but is the screen hardware it self only capable of displaying 65K.
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There was a discussion about this back in 2010: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807307
Some say its 262K. Others 265K or 16M. It's all very vague.
According to Microsoft its 262k
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/6/phones.aspx#detail=1366
I hope someone sheds some light on this, gradients look awful on my screen.
shadiku said:
I hope someone sheds some light on this, gradients look awful on my screen.
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Seriously, it's the only thing holding me back from using this phone full-time. You can see a great example of it in the widgets.
I agree, widgets look terrible, specifically news and weather widgets (genie.apk), power control, etc (anything with the black gradient background).
However, they only look bad on some launchers (on launcher pro, for example, with high quality scrolling turned on, widgets look exactly how they are meant to look - somehow launcher pro manages to 'smooth' the gradient).
I think this should be made a priority as the banding is very visible in many apps, and especially when watching videos on the device. It is very noticeable in the new gingerbread ROMs, which make use of more subtle gradients (take the notifications bar, the phone application for example) - fixing this issue would bring android on the HD2 up to a whole new level!
I'm going to do some digging and see what I can find...
i dont think we can improve the screen to much higher than what is meant to be.if you have a normal plasma tv.you cant watch 3d movies from it,because it was not intended for 3d.same thing with the hd2 screen.
justwonder said:
According to Microsoft its 262k
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/6/phones.aspx#detail=1366
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But isnt that always MS's way of looking at things, being conservative opposed to using the capabilities? MS has never used anything to its fullest capacity, they are always on the reserved side so to them less means better compatibility and less issues. I wouldnt go based on MS's articles or opinions, I think the best to answer the screen capability would be HTC - the maker.
But thats just my opinion.
For me, some sense builds look more colorful than others do.
is it possible that these builds make use of the displays capability?
Cause when I use Froyo everything seems to be paler and less colorful.
And its not just the wallpaper..
This is a concern of mine aswell, I hope it really is not a hardware limitation
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MS said that LEO suqqort 262k.
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I thought that limitation was just because that's all WM6.5 could handle. I'd be surprised if the screen couldn't handle 16.7million colours. It's just a standard TFT device after all.
Perhaps it comes down to drivers?
jonboyuk said:
Perhaps it comes down to drivers?
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Maybe it was regulated somewhere in IPL or SPL? Because we just use IPL, SPL and radio to boot android...
i'm looking through the samsung.git (the kernel source) in the android source, and came across some very interesting commits from Arve Hjønnevåg on this page
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/samsung.git;a=shortlog;pg=1
click on the commit link for the details
they point out that the colours were actually wrong, and have now been reset. so, actually, all's good - so stop whining!
personally, i prefer the new colours!
looking through the commit logs is actually really interesting. a really annoying bug in googles where, if you pressed flash, it would turn itself off was fixed here: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=ke...it;h=65799b8cfd15cb61201a0492d8d7799136c4d440
and the explanation is informative too!
What was the point of "fixing" the colors? It's not a bug.
The colors may have been "wrong" before 2.3.3 but that's how I saw it in the store and that's what it looked like when I bought it. If I saw it at the store with the 2.3.3 colors there's a good chance I would have purchased a different phone.
I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
zero383 said:
I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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Maybe, if I liked the way it looked. That's my whole point, I liked the way it looked when I bought it, and that's what I paid for. Bait and switch.
Colors were **** since 2.3.3 dont care what they say I have my own 2 eyes and lol that this "problem" was noticed so late into android
They should at least give the option to change them back threw the settings
zero383 said:
I prefer the "fixed" colors as well. I mean, would you buy a TV or monitor with inaccurate color representation?
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I sure as hell wouldn't want to buy a TV with fixed colors and settings
If you want to get technical most mainstream LCD TV and PC monitors are TN panel and they produce inaccurate colors anyways no matter what settings oyu put them on compared to lets say an IPS which have much more accurate natural colors
demo23019 said:
Lol colors are **** since 2.3.3 and OP its colors not colours
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Colours = Canadian / British
Colors = American
thanks learn something new everyday
SORRY MarkusPO
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zero383 said:
Colours = Canadian / British
Colors = American
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Countries separated by a common language ;D
Gotta love it.
svanheulen said:
What was the point of "fixing" the colors? It's not a bug...The colors may have been "wrong" before 2.3.3.
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things that are generally 'wrong' in software are bugs. your logic is wrong. let's face it, we didn't buy the phone for pretty colours.
and it's not a bug in android, it was a bug in the samsung crespo (nexus s) firmware that's been fixed. only users of the nexus s will see the colour changes. the samsung.git is the boot kernel code.
netarchy said:
Countries separated by a common language ;D
Gotta love it.
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well...calling english a language with its lack of grammar is stretching it a bit too far! most of europe throughout time has looked upon english as being a language for idiots! and besides, american is a subset of english
So are the colors now similar to the Epic or "washed out" as a couple of people have noticed.
I am going to store today to consider change from Epic. I love my phone, dont care as much about GB since it is rooted and rommed to 1.3, however
what I want is the size.
Just not sure about using my upgrade just for size since I know there will be newer, flashier things out, which I also don't know that I really need . .
Such a nice choice to have . .
Any other pros/cons
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If I saw it at the store with the 2.3.3 colors there's a good chance I would have purchased a different phone.
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Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.
nmoreman said:
So are the colors now similar to the Epic or "washed out" as a couple of people have noticed.
I am going to store today to consider change from Epic. I love my phone, dont care as much about GB since it is rooted and rommed to 1.3, however
what I want is the size.
Just not sure about using my upgrade just for size since I know there will be newer, flashier things out, which I also don't know that I really need . .
Such a nice choice to have . .
Any other pros/cons
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The argument just stems from the fact that the original colours on the Nexus S were over-saturated and were not 'correct' by any definition of valid colour space. Those that accept that there is a 'correct' colour space are generally happy with the change, and so don't consider the colours washed out.
Those that prefer the incorrect colours and over-saturation consider the colours to now be washed out.
As for pros and cons of the Nexus S, check out the many other threads giving detailed reviews or 'compare and contrast' opinion pieces.
For me the biggest seller to getting a Nexus S was the fact that updates come straight from Google (previously was on Milestone and Motorola are crap at providing timely updates), closely followed by the speed and responsiveness of the phone in general.
shamarama said:
Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.
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lol what do you think most people do before they buy a TV
you look the your screen 99% of the time you use the phone it plays a huge part in hardware decision for allot even its its colors
like someone said earlier its called bait and switch
and whats worst with this is that they are fixed with the exception of kernel with voodoo
Also i never seen once person complain before about the colors Google used prior to the update
BUT now that this "problem" was fixed i see tons of people complaining including me and then other just lay back and except it becasue Google said it was a good choice
also try owning a phone prior to this with OLED like i did with my nexus one and vibrant...even WP7 has accurate colors for and OLED panel.
Google is just made a stupid decision.
FYI im huge into hardware ill bet im one of the top enthusiast when it comes to this stuff ...mainly PC hardware
demo23019 said:
lol what do you think most people do before they buy a TV
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apples and oranges.
still, google and samsung even give you the complete source code for your phone, so, you can:
a) continue to whine and have it fall on deaf ears.
b) buckle up and modify the source code to your heart's content and hell, maybe even fix other problems.
c) use an existing solution.
whatever you choose, no one really cares, you're either happy, or if not, make the change.
so, start today.
make the change
'cause i'm standing with the... uh... oh.
not apples and oranges since they are FIXED on the nexus S
MarkusPO what model phone are you using?
If you're using SLCD you have no say in this..well at least my rant im talking about OLED like i said numerous times
color change impacts both screen types differently
demo23019 said:
thanks learn something new everyday
SORRY MarkusPO
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lmfao...
10 char
I know on Cyanogenmod for the Evo it had an option to change the colors on the screen... does the Nexus S version have that as well?
shamarama said:
Really? You base your phone purchasing decision on what the colours look like? No regard for hardware, software, capabilities? Wow. Just wow.
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I didn't say that at all. There are plenty of other Android phones with similar capabilities and the screen was one of the factors.
They can say whatever they want my screen is now yellow ,I've even asked ppl at work who's never even looked at my phone before, what color is the white,and everyone says a tanish yellow color....smh
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Raver27 said:
what color is the white,and everyone says a tanish yellow color....smh
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exactly white is not white and this also impacts the contrast and that ultimately impacts the colors...they did this to conserve battery not that it look better
derekwilkinson said:
lmfao...
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im sure you're far from perfect ...
im sure i can go threw your post history i can dig something up
Hi again,
i have problem, my hp pavilion dv5 have 1280x800 screen and i cannot split screen in windows 8 like on screenshot. I know i must have min.1366x768 screen but maybe there is option to unlock this option in lower resolution.
Possible I guess. By using the resolution hack, I think you may achieve split screen. It's using the netbook screen res method, you hack the registry to show more screen resolution options. Gives you more, but it looks cramped, blurry, with uneven pixel density. That's putting more pixels than the actual screen may support. Another method you can use is plugging an external display that supports 1366x768 and up. This will definitely allow you to have that split screen.
NeuroXT said:
Possible I guess. By using the resolution hack, I think you may achieve split screen. It's using the netbook screen res method, you hack the registry to show more screen resolution options. Gives you more, but it looks cramped, blurry, with uneven pixel density. That's putting more pixels than the actual screen may support. Another method you can use is plugging an external display that supports 1366x768 and up. This will definitely allow you to have that split screen.
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res registry hack doesn't work anymore. Haven't found a way to do this yet.
Okay, solved. If you have nVidia you can add other resolution via nVidia Control Panel. Now I can split on my 1280x800 screen with resolution 1366x856
ATI Radion HD?
Hi all
I have the same native resolution as the OP but my laptop has an ATI Radion HD graphics card.
Does anybody know how to add an additional resolution with this type of card?
Thanks and God bless
andrew-in-woking
Check ATI software, maybe there is option to add the "adjusted resolution".
I checked it in nVidia software and Intel also ( HD 3000 ), and i can add other resolution ( higher than native ).
Regards
I use an nVidia based Graphics Card and this is how I change my resolution, in case anyone wanted to try it out! And yes, snapping works perfectly after this but your monitor might not display it all very clearly.
I have a Dell monitor as you can see in the screenshot running on a native resolution of 1280x1024, just like the OP's! \
After changing the resolution from 720p to 768 by my Radeon,its looking bad,I wanna know that, it shud look bad isn't it,I mean it's obvious to look bad in upgraded or downgraded resolution?can't we do sumthing 2 run those apps in 720p,well if sum1 mod the apps into compatible resolution...well this may b a noobie question,well I don't wanna use those apps in BAD LOOKING SCREEN THAT'S ALL
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How?
Anime13 said:
After changing the resolution from 720p to 768 by my Radeon,its looking bad,I wanna know that, it shud look bad isn't it,I mean it's obvious to look bad in upgraded or downgraded resolution?can't we do sumthing 2 run those apps in 720p,well if sum1 mod the apps into compatible resolution...well this may b a noobie question,well I don't wanna use those apps in BAD LOOKING SCREEN THAT'S ALL
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Hi Anime13
Can you share how you changed the resolution with the radion card?
Thanks and God bless
andrew-in-woking
Anime13 said:
After changing the resolution from 720p to 768 by my Radeon,its looking bad,I wanna know that, it shud look bad isn't it,I mean it's obvious to look bad in upgraded or downgraded resolution?can't we do sumthing 2 run those apps in 720p,well if sum1 mod the apps into compatible resolution...well this may b a noobie question,well I don't wanna use those apps in BAD LOOKING SCREEN THAT'S ALL
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What I have observed from using Split Screen is that, each app has a minimum running width of 1024px wide, anything lower and it will look cropped and uneven. So even if somehow the people at XDA bypass that option and allow snapping at lower resolutions, it will still look bad.
It's not such a great feature either, you keep getting confused on what's running and hard to concentrate on one app when there are two taking up the screen. Multitasking was made for the desktop version and it should stay that way in my opinion