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Now that Android can be installed from NAND, I had assumed that the problem with the screen only displaying 65k colors would be fixed. It still isn't, is there a known way to fix it or any progress being made to fix it? At the very least, is it known what the issue is? I thought it was a problem with WM utilizing only 65k of the screen and that carried over to android when it was run over WM, but now that WM is eliminated that's obviously not it. Anyone know?
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ShotSkydiver said:
Now that Android can be installed from NAND, I had assumed that the problem with the screen only displaying 65k colors would be fixed. It still isn't, is there a known way to fix it or any progress being made to fix it? At the very least, is it known what the issue is? I thought it was a problem with WM utilizing only 65k of the screen and that carried over to android when it was run over WM, but now that WM is eliminated that's obviously not it. Anyone know?
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someone correct me if am wrong but is the screen hardware it self only capable of displaying 65K.
jagger2k said:
someone correct me if am wrong but is the screen hardware it self only capable of displaying 65K.
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There was a discussion about this back in 2010: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807307
Some say its 262K. Others 265K or 16M. It's all very vague.
According to Microsoft its 262k
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/6/phones.aspx#detail=1366
I hope someone sheds some light on this, gradients look awful on my screen.
shadiku said:
I hope someone sheds some light on this, gradients look awful on my screen.
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Seriously, it's the only thing holding me back from using this phone full-time. You can see a great example of it in the widgets.
I agree, widgets look terrible, specifically news and weather widgets (genie.apk), power control, etc (anything with the black gradient background).
However, they only look bad on some launchers (on launcher pro, for example, with high quality scrolling turned on, widgets look exactly how they are meant to look - somehow launcher pro manages to 'smooth' the gradient).
I think this should be made a priority as the banding is very visible in many apps, and especially when watching videos on the device. It is very noticeable in the new gingerbread ROMs, which make use of more subtle gradients (take the notifications bar, the phone application for example) - fixing this issue would bring android on the HD2 up to a whole new level!
I'm going to do some digging and see what I can find...
i dont think we can improve the screen to much higher than what is meant to be.if you have a normal plasma tv.you cant watch 3d movies from it,because it was not intended for 3d.same thing with the hd2 screen.
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According to Microsoft its 262k
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/6/phones.aspx#detail=1366
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But isnt that always MS's way of looking at things, being conservative opposed to using the capabilities? MS has never used anything to its fullest capacity, they are always on the reserved side so to them less means better compatibility and less issues. I wouldnt go based on MS's articles or opinions, I think the best to answer the screen capability would be HTC - the maker.
But thats just my opinion.
For me, some sense builds look more colorful than others do.
is it possible that these builds make use of the displays capability?
Cause when I use Froyo everything seems to be paler and less colorful.
And its not just the wallpaper..
This is a concern of mine aswell, I hope it really is not a hardware limitation
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MS said that LEO suqqort 262k.
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I thought that limitation was just because that's all WM6.5 could handle. I'd be surprised if the screen couldn't handle 16.7million colours. It's just a standard TFT device after all.
Perhaps it comes down to drivers?
jonboyuk said:
Perhaps it comes down to drivers?
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Maybe it was regulated somewhere in IPL or SPL? Because we just use IPL, SPL and radio to boot android...
Under WP6.5 they tell about 65k color depth - okay, I don't mind anymore
But: is this the WP limit and or hardware based.
I ask because under Android (MIUI) sometimes I see color artifacts at pictures wich I dont have at the same picture on my pc.
So what do we get from this fabulous phone?
The color depth is hardware based.
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Thanks - and is it the 65k or more?
I've heard the screen supports 16M colours, n_hoss once posted a link to tech specs (I believe 't was on the official HTC site). The crappy colour gradients are quite eye-catching imo, so I'm definitely down for an upgrade!
im sure n_hoss only posted that our screen was capable of 262k? Please correct me if im wrong
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ricey1986 said:
im sure n_hoss only posted that our screen was capable of 262k? Please correct me if im wrong
Ricey
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You're absolutely right, I don't know why this 16M value keeps popping up in my head, I think I got it from Photoshop or something alike.
Here's the link hoss_n2 posted: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/6/phones.aspx#detail=1366
And for the record, link to the original thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807307
so we are finally with "480x800 (Screen colors: HW LCD supports 262K, OS support 65 K)"
ok - thx
Hey, ever since i moved from winmo to android, and now from android to wp7, i've always missed something from wm. That is, the flashlight. It seems the flashlights on both Android and WP7, don't use the full capacity of the leds. What i'm saying is that they're very, very weak compared to the WM one. I don't know if it could be possible to make an application that takes more advantage of the dual leds' capacity. If someone can, please do, cuz' that was one of the amazing things of the hd2.
Hellow
download link.http://rapidshare.com/files/446892862/Flashlight.xap
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download link.http://rapidshare.com/files/446892862/Flashlight.xap
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Thank you, but:
It's the same as the one I've got, the purpose of this thread is seeing if anyone can make a flashlight that uses the full capacity of the leds, like on winmo, because, if you compare, winmo's flashlight is much much brighter.
hmmm i never experienced this.. Torch and TeslaLED both use the LED at an insane level of brightness. when you turn on super light in Torch it gets ridiculous! and i think the WP7 HTC Flashlight app from the HTC HUB is identical to the brightness of the WM6.5 one. i haven't done extensive testing, but i have never experienced any real differences. one click is still nice and illuminated where as the three clicks on and that sucker is bright
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hmmm i never experienced this.. Torch and TeslaLED both use the LED at an insane level of brightness. when you turn on super light in Torch it gets ridiculous! and i think the WP7 HTC Flashlight app from the HTC HUB is identical to the brightness of the WM6.5 one. i haven't done extensive testing, but i have never experienced any real differences. one click is still nice and illuminated where as the three clicks on and that sucker is bright
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I don't like the way you have to click through all the levels of brightness to get back to off with the wp7 flashlight. It would be better if you could set which brightness, then just push once for on and push again for off... not having to push to turn on, then push 3 more times to get it off, going through every level of brightness. What were they thinking when they designed that app? Am I missing some way to operate it differently?
dunno old boy but i only get 1 and bit of the LEDs light up, the bottom one comes on but barely.
Camera flash works fine however
Yeah exactly, its as if it used only one of the leds instead of the two
On winmo it was SO bright it was blinding.
On Android its brighter than WP7 but less than winmo.
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yes it is avaiable and free one one of the threads in HD2 running Windows 7, I have it working great. If I find the thread Ill post it.
Hai all,
Windows Phone 7 can run in HD2..
Can someone tell me if its possible to run WIndows Phone 7 on Touch HD, if the HD2 Rom is reworked according to HTC Touch HD..??
I am begging our Super Chefs to cook a ROM of Windows Phone 7 for the Touch HD.....Please.....
As some winmo 7 phones only have 3.7 inch, it shud work on Touch hd...isnt..?
Also Processor can be adjusted by clocking..isnt it..?
I am not suure though...
Please discuss...
Thanks..
Surely it is possible, and not so hard as it would seem to be.
And sure, HD hardware is capable, but it would be a bit laggy at times.
The problem is that xda lacks dev support.
Are you serious, tell me you are joking?! The Touch hD Will 100% not run Wp7. it doesn't fill the chassis 1 requirement. it has a resistivetouch screen. NO EXISTING WM PHONE CAN UPGRADE TO WP7 (THEY ALL AVE RESISTVIVE SCREENS) apart from hd2
I'm sure this ha been posted many times before.
Dude, resistive screen is no drawback, true some function wouldn't easily be implemented like pinch to zoom, but its NOT impossible. As I said, devs are lacking will to do anything for older phones and that's the REAL issue. Deal with it.
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Dude, resistive screen is no drawback, true some function wouldn't easily be implemented like pinch to zoom, but its NOT impossible. As I said, devs are lacking will to do anything for older phones and that's the REAL issue. Deal with it.
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True, no devs will support 'old devices' Get your facts right before posting. As part of the hardware requorements, the Chassis 1 minumum requires uliti touch capacitive screens. wp7 WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED ON TOUCH HD! unless someone smart enough can rewrite the touch drivers and digitilizers to match the resistibve screen which i think is VERY DIFFICULT and highly unlikely to happened.. most apps require multitouc
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Do some research.
You might also consider that devs lack time to support everything.
but i think will work, becoz android is a mutitouch capacitive screen software, and still the android (even with sense) works in Touch HD...
So windows phone 7 should work....I hope...
Anyway I got windows phone 7 working in touch HD using throttlelauncher, it is exact same as WP7 in front page, and some pages are actual one...
I am happy with it...
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but i think will work, becoz android is a mutitouch capacitive screen software, and still the android (even with sense) works in Touch HD...
So windows phone 7 should work....I hope...
Anyway I got windows phone 7 working in touch HD using throttlelauncher, it is exact same as WP7 in front page, and some pages are actual one...
I am happy with it...
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Could you tell us how you got it to work?
This the youtube video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqwrw4fwxAM
Download and Install the Windows Phone 7 Here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859799
Remember to Use Activesync to transfer files.....it doesnt work if you copy from memory card.
Can someone tell me will it work if I install the windows 7 for HD2 on Touch HD from memory card?
MagicMans said:
Can someone tell me will it work if I install the windows 7 for HD2 on Touch HD from memory card?
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You are incorrect. Android is not designed for capacitive. it was designed for both resistive and capacitive. There are many resisitve touch screeens running amdroid natively. But WP7 was designed ONLY for capacitive. Try installing it from your SD card then... But you will only result with a non-bootable bricked device...
I highly highly doubt WP7 will be possible on any other wm device (apart from Hd2)
lol.... i knew that i would brick it...
But there are no resistive screen android devices....is there..?
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lol.... i knew that i would brick it...
But there are no resistive screen android devices....is there..?
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There are MANY resisitive android devices. LG Optimus GT505, Alcattel etx...
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This the youtube video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqwrw4fwxAM
Download and Install the Windows Phone 7 Here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859799
Remember to Use Activesync to transfer files.....it doesnt work if you copy from memory card.
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That's just a theme for winmo 6.5
In this video, we take a look at the latest version of Fireslave's Windows Phone 7 theme for Windows Mobile 6.5.
the windows phone 7 link is just a theme. It doesn't actually give you windows 7 capabilities. It's pretty good though, however the Froyo X Red build is now a very clean and fast build, and is much faster than this windows phone 7 THEME if you ask me.
Android is THE way forward
i agree about android. however, i must say, i actually prefer a good windows phone 7 theme to the actual OS, because it comes with a lot of functuality and the slick interface, without actually having all the restrictions of windows phone 7, like the lack of windows mobile app support, copy & paste and a system wide file and registry explorer. actually i love, that i am able to send anything (even cabs and mp3) to other phones through bluetooth and other great freedoms, that come with the old winmo. even more a reason to hope for a fully working android on the blackstone. it offers the great 3rd party app support of wp7 or ios with many freedoms and full customizability.
Chef_Tony said:
i agree about android. however, i must say, i actually prefer a good windows phone 7 theme to the actual OS, because it comes with a lot of functuality and the slick interface, without actually having all the restrictions of windows phone 7, like the lack of windows mobile app support, copy & paste and a system wide file and registry explorer. actually i love, that i am able to send anything (even cabs and mp3) to other phones through bluetooth and other great freedoms, that come with the old winmo. even more a reason to hope for a fully working android on the blackstone. it offers the great 3rd party app support of wp7 or ios with many freedoms and full customizability.
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+1 file sharing is a great must have for me. Is this possible with amdroid?
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This the youtube video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqwrw4fwxAM
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looks nice
Is there anything sepcial in WP7 other than live tiles..
I used the theme for 1 day....it is good to scroll down and up...then go to pages etc....but there is nothing to do in it.....in android u can do so many things..
Do u know anyother specialities of windows phone 7..?
i'll try it... nice info..
I am going to buy HTC HD2 or HTC Desire HD.
1)From what I know hd2 was made to work with Windows Mobile but supports Android, I wanted to know if the HD2 will run Android smoothly without problems & bugs? Android Market works?
2)The HD2's touch is smooth while running Android? or it has delays?
3) How the Desire HD is different from the HD2? I know the camera is better in desire hd and also the RAM is a bit higher, but what else
4)HD2 works perfectly with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
5)The phone memory in the HD2 is lower than the Desire HD, wanted to know if it's making a big difference.
6)Desire HD run games/Apps faster than HD2?
That's all for now, thanks for helper
koloko12 said:
I am going to buy HTC HD2 or HTC Desire HD.
1)From what I know hd2 was made to work with Windows Mobile but supports Android, I wanted to know if the HD2 will run Android smoothly without problems & bugs? Android Market works?
2)The HD2's touch is smooth while running Android? or it has delays?
3) How the Desire HD is different from the HD2? I know the camera is better in desire hd and also the RAM is a bit higher, but what else
4)HD2 works perfectly with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
5)The phone memory in the HD2 is lower than the Desire HD, wanted to know if it's making a big difference.
6)Desire HD run games/Apps faster than HD2?
That's all for now, thanks for helper
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1)HD2 runs android smoothly imho... android 4.0 may have a few problems but thats like every other device
2)im running sense 3.5 which is gingerbread and the touch screen is very responsive no delay
3)dont know anything about the desire but i know that the roms for desire get ported to hd2 so we get there roms anyway
4)as i said earlier gingerbread sense 3.5 is great (using the ENERGY rom)
5) i dont thik the less memory makes a difference i have installed a fair few apps and still have room to spare
6)app/game speed differs between devices some may be faster on hd2 than desire you never know... i find the apps are quite fast
hope this helps
Thanks MkBy for the fast response, here are some more things I would Like to know
1)What you suggest to buy?
2)Which one is cheaper?
3)I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
koloko12 said:
Thanks MkBy for the fast response, here are some more things I would Like to know
1)What you suggest to buy?
2)Which one is cheaper?
3)I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
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I haven't used the DHD too much so I can't say which is better but 0my HD2 on CM7 appeared to keep up in performance in terms of scrolling, web browsing, opening apps etc. (i.e. not benchmarks) with my friend's DHD on CM7, and I would guess the HD2 is cheaper but the HD2 is absolutely terrible for playing HD games or games involving multitouch. In order for HD games to run smoothly you have to sacrifice either speed or graphics, and the HD2's screen only supports 2 points which is a massive let down for me. As much as I love the HD2, if it were up to me and both were around the same price I would go for the DHD, even if it is a slight bit more expensive
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the HD2's screen only supports 2 points which is a massive let down for me
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You mean that if I will try touch the screen on HD2 with three fingers it will detect only two of them?
koloko12 said:
You mean that if I will try touch the screen on HD2 with three fingers it will detect only two of them?
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Yes, unfortunately It does that very poorly as well, I can't describe it but sometimes it appears to lock the two points together if they are on the same line if you know what I mean, it's quite difficult to describe.
Let's compare the Touch screen to SE Xperia's touch screen, I know that in Xperia you can work with 2 fingers and even more, HD2 can work with 2 fingers like Xperia does? I mean same quality of touch
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Let's compare the Touch screen to SE Xperia's touch screen, I know that in Xperia you can work with 2 fingers and even more, HD2 can work with 2 fingers like Xperia does? I mean same quality of touch
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1 Finger flawless
2 Fingers decent
3+ Fingers doesn't work
NONE OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INNUENDO
As I said before, I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
I have an HD2 and am currently running the Energy ROM with sense 3.5 and Gingerbread. The screen is extremely responsive and over all the phone works great. I would recommend getting the HD2. It is one of the best phone out there as far as specs go and it isn't that expensive anymore.
If you want to buy a second-hand HD2, I would like to suggest you to check:
1. 3G data connection (refer to This)
2. Button response
3. Camera flashlight
4. Record video for 5 mins
5. earphone jack and some MP3
6. blue tooth file transfer
7. speaker
8. GPS in some navigation apps
9. Wifi of course
10.Ninja fruit for multi-touch test
Better bring a TF card with files or pics you want to test.
Since my HD2 has data connection freeze issue, I suggest you to buy a whole new handset like ONE X (if you like htc), with warranty. All these unsolved problems on HD2 are driving me crazy.
I'm running hd2 with ics tytung v1.5 with little to no known problems other than music app fc'ing. Their is a touch issue, namely screen lag, but I only notice it when playing games at a fast pace. Hd2's seem to regarded as highly adaptable as well. Not sure about dhd.
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Nigeldg said:
1 Finger flawless
2 Fingers decent
3+ Fingers doesn't work
NONE OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INNUENDO
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LOLOL
I think if you need faster device, Desire HD is choice (i see from the specifiaction..), but if you need monster device, HD2 is choice,,,,
It can running a lot of OS,,,
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I'm running hd2 with ics tytung v1.5 with little to no known problems other than music app fc'ing. Their is a touch issue, namely screen lag, but I only notice it when playing games at a fast pace. Hd2's seem to regarded as highly adaptable as well. Not sure about dhd.
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Hi dooshbag45, I am thinking of changing my gingerbread rom to ICS. My current rom keeps rebooting when I am using headphone to listen to music. If i use loudspeaker it does not reboot. I have even had to think twice buying a beats audio headphone because of this problem. Does the ICS rom that you're using only fc or rebooting also? Is it only when you're using the default music app or also with third party app? Mine even reboots when i am using winamp.
hd2 pros
Many OS available (android, wp7, Ubuntu, etc)
Great screen (for devices age)
EASILY nodded
Cons
Touchscreen issues - using more than one finger recognition, failing digitizer (design flaw)
Data drop (happens to some, a simple disconnect/reconnect solves)
1 rear 5mp cam
Specs are showing their age but still hang with the best of em!!!
I've had a hands on with a friends DHD so the below is based on a QUICK hands on
DHD pros
Native android
Slight advantage on HD2 (hardware specs)
Cons
Smaller screen
You want android ... You're stuck with it!
Cons
Smaller screen
You want android ... You're stuck with it!
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Incorrect. The Desire HD has a screen of 4.3", which is as large as the HD2.
Hi
I've used both. And both are great devices too. The only drawback for both of em are lack of front cam. But IMHO go for a newer model. Like sensation and EVO 3d. You may get it cheaper also.
But the final decision be yours.
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