I am going to buy HTC HD2 or HTC Desire HD.
1)From what I know hd2 was made to work with Windows Mobile but supports Android, I wanted to know if the HD2 will run Android smoothly without problems & bugs? Android Market works?
2)The HD2's touch is smooth while running Android? or it has delays?
3) How the Desire HD is different from the HD2? I know the camera is better in desire hd and also the RAM is a bit higher, but what else
4)HD2 works perfectly with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
5)The phone memory in the HD2 is lower than the Desire HD, wanted to know if it's making a big difference.
6)Desire HD run games/Apps faster than HD2?
That's all for now, thanks for helper
koloko12 said:
I am going to buy HTC HD2 or HTC Desire HD.
1)From what I know hd2 was made to work with Windows Mobile but supports Android, I wanted to know if the HD2 will run Android smoothly without problems & bugs? Android Market works?
2)The HD2's touch is smooth while running Android? or it has delays?
3) How the Desire HD is different from the HD2? I know the camera is better in desire hd and also the RAM is a bit higher, but what else
4)HD2 works perfectly with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
5)The phone memory in the HD2 is lower than the Desire HD, wanted to know if it's making a big difference.
6)Desire HD run games/Apps faster than HD2?
That's all for now, thanks for helper
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1)HD2 runs android smoothly imho... android 4.0 may have a few problems but thats like every other device
2)im running sense 3.5 which is gingerbread and the touch screen is very responsive no delay
3)dont know anything about the desire but i know that the roms for desire get ported to hd2 so we get there roms anyway
4)as i said earlier gingerbread sense 3.5 is great (using the ENERGY rom)
5) i dont thik the less memory makes a difference i have installed a fair few apps and still have room to spare
6)app/game speed differs between devices some may be faster on hd2 than desire you never know... i find the apps are quite fast
hope this helps
Thanks MkBy for the fast response, here are some more things I would Like to know
1)What you suggest to buy?
2)Which one is cheaper?
3)I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
koloko12 said:
Thanks MkBy for the fast response, here are some more things I would Like to know
1)What you suggest to buy?
2)Which one is cheaper?
3)I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
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I haven't used the DHD too much so I can't say which is better but 0my HD2 on CM7 appeared to keep up in performance in terms of scrolling, web browsing, opening apps etc. (i.e. not benchmarks) with my friend's DHD on CM7, and I would guess the HD2 is cheaper but the HD2 is absolutely terrible for playing HD games or games involving multitouch. In order for HD games to run smoothly you have to sacrifice either speed or graphics, and the HD2's screen only supports 2 points which is a massive let down for me. As much as I love the HD2, if it were up to me and both were around the same price I would go for the DHD, even if it is a slight bit more expensive
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the HD2's screen only supports 2 points which is a massive let down for me
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You mean that if I will try touch the screen on HD2 with three fingers it will detect only two of them?
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You mean that if I will try touch the screen on HD2 with three fingers it will detect only two of them?
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Yes, unfortunately It does that very poorly as well, I can't describe it but sometimes it appears to lock the two points together if they are on the same line if you know what I mean, it's quite difficult to describe.
Let's compare the Touch screen to SE Xperia's touch screen, I know that in Xperia you can work with 2 fingers and even more, HD2 can work with 2 fingers like Xperia does? I mean same quality of touch
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Let's compare the Touch screen to SE Xperia's touch screen, I know that in Xperia you can work with 2 fingers and even more, HD2 can work with 2 fingers like Xperia does? I mean same quality of touch
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1 Finger flawless
2 Fingers decent
3+ Fingers doesn't work
NONE OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INNUENDO
As I said before, I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
I have an HD2 and am currently running the Energy ROM with sense 3.5 and Gingerbread. The screen is extremely responsive and over all the phone works great. I would recommend getting the HD2. It is one of the best phone out there as far as specs go and it isn't that expensive anymore.
If you want to buy a second-hand HD2, I would like to suggest you to check:
1. 3G data connection (refer to This)
2. Button response
3. Camera flashlight
4. Record video for 5 mins
5. earphone jack and some MP3
6. blue tooth file transfer
7. speaker
8. GPS in some navigation apps
9. Wifi of course
10.Ninja fruit for multi-touch test
Better bring a TF card with files or pics you want to test.
Since my HD2 has data connection freeze issue, I suggest you to buy a whole new handset like ONE X (if you like htc), with warranty. All these unsolved problems on HD2 are driving me crazy.
I'm running hd2 with ics tytung v1.5 with little to no known problems other than music app fc'ing. Their is a touch issue, namely screen lag, but I only notice it when playing games at a fast pace. Hd2's seem to regarded as highly adaptable as well. Not sure about dhd.
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1 Finger flawless
2 Fingers decent
3+ Fingers doesn't work
NONE OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INNUENDO
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LOLOL
I think if you need faster device, Desire HD is choice (i see from the specifiaction..), but if you need monster device, HD2 is choice,,,,
It can running a lot of OS,,,
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I'm running hd2 with ics tytung v1.5 with little to no known problems other than music app fc'ing. Their is a touch issue, namely screen lag, but I only notice it when playing games at a fast pace. Hd2's seem to regarded as highly adaptable as well. Not sure about dhd.
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Hi dooshbag45, I am thinking of changing my gingerbread rom to ICS. My current rom keeps rebooting when I am using headphone to listen to music. If i use loudspeaker it does not reboot. I have even had to think twice buying a beats audio headphone because of this problem. Does the ICS rom that you're using only fc or rebooting also? Is it only when you're using the default music app or also with third party app? Mine even reboots when i am using winamp.
hd2 pros
Many OS available (android, wp7, Ubuntu, etc)
Great screen (for devices age)
EASILY nodded
Cons
Touchscreen issues - using more than one finger recognition, failing digitizer (design flaw)
Data drop (happens to some, a simple disconnect/reconnect solves)
1 rear 5mp cam
Specs are showing their age but still hang with the best of em!!!
I've had a hands on with a friends DHD so the below is based on a QUICK hands on
DHD pros
Native android
Slight advantage on HD2 (hardware specs)
Cons
Smaller screen
You want android ... You're stuck with it!
Cons
Smaller screen
You want android ... You're stuck with it!
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Incorrect. The Desire HD has a screen of 4.3", which is as large as the HD2.
Hi
I've used both. And both are great devices too. The only drawback for both of em are lack of front cam. But IMHO go for a newer model. Like sensation and EVO 3d. You may get it cheaper also.
But the final decision be yours.
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Hello
I have a simple choice to make, whether to go with the HTC HD2 (and Windows 6.5), which will entail leaving Orange and not getting any upgrade offers, or to go with the Desire and Android.
I currently have a Diamond and have never, truly, had a problem with it that is down to the operating system. The reason its now dog slow is something to do with the amount of times ive dropped it from circa 4 feet. Its also scratched to buggery. I do like a lot of features of Windows 6.5 though, and im therefore a little reluctant to jump over to Android for a faster OS when i will sudddenly not be able to do some things i do now.
The first one that springs to mind is the contact list, where i can simply type a few numbers, or letters of someones name (first name or last name or last 3 letters of name, etc) and get given the number i want. Does Android do this? (I assume this is an OS thing, as my previous windows phones have all done this, though no other non windows phone ive used has!)
Otherwise, in terms of applications, will they run on Android if they run on Windwows, i suspect not. Or is it a case that some might but some wont? Is it a completely different setup? I have TomTom which runs like a gem through windows, will this work with android? I guess this is a usual question, im not buying TomTom again just to have it on my new device!
Final thing, what is battery life like on each, is one much better than others, particularly when using applications and, in particular, GPS?
Any sensible discussion is appreciated. No 'Desire is better' etc comments without a comparison/reason please.
Thanks in advance!
Steve
HD2 > Desire
not only the OS, but I simply love the hardware much better too.
With Android you get the promise of frequent(ish if you think of the hero) updates to your OS. Yeah you get less useability but you can still root your phone if you need to.
Winmo is still good and the HD2's screen is a thing to behold. Honestly, best bet is to try the phones yourself in a store.
I have both. HD2 and Desire.
Desire: Awsome! Poor battery, need to recharge 2-3 times at one day! Low volume! Poor music player! If you get a SMS from a service like 1999 it randomly finds a contacts and says for example that the SMS is from Mark (a random contact). VERY slow charcing! Android, very userfriendly! Awsome FaceBook app! Can only synch my Gmail!!! AMOLED screen!
Leo: Awsome fast charcing! Good batterylife! SRS WOWHD v1.5.1.0 = Awsome music quality! Need to be restarted every day, more then one time each day! Awsome screen! SMS deliver problem! Keyboard lag! I can synch my Hotmail, contacts etc! Costumizable! Better flash.
I'm currently using both, Leo for music and Desire as my main phone. And my Sony Ericsson watch is connect with my Desire...
I have just brought a desire for my daughter and have been comparing the two phones.1st of all I love my hd2, so i thought it would be very one sided and it was.
The desire is just so much better.The hd2 is without doubt the best looking hardware with the nicest screen in the world (IMHO) but the android software is so much easier and rewarding to use. The hd2 suits me fine because when im working nightshift and I have 10 hours to kill doing nothing, Im busy messy around with my phone getting this to work or that to work but I dont think thats for everyone.
The way I see it is you have the IPhone that everything works and is so easy a baby could use it but for that reason its locked down in every way that you cant do anything to modify it or personalise it.
You have the HD2 which seems totally open but you have to get your hands dirty to make everything work or to make it work faster or less buggy.
The Desire sits right in the middle and takes the best of both. Everything works very easily and SUPER QUICK, you have your millions of unnecessary apps, its not locked down like the IPhone and even more customisable than the hd2. You also have the fact that android will keep being developed and WM wont.
Sorry for the long post but seeing as im doing exactly what the post was talking about i had a lot on my mind.
RReckless
PS my HD2 is still the prettiest of them all
HD2
get the HD2. i take it with your diamond your used to hard spl if so the HD2 is no different.
put a good custom ROM on ie xtreame 6.5 rom and you will not have any problems
as for syncing mail, i use my google mail account for exchange with contacts etc, and hotmail for emails as well both work flawlessly and have no sms problems
bottom line, if you don't mind putting a custom rom on your phone get the HD2
otherwise the desire is your best bet
1. Desire is from HTC so it has the function press some letter then the contact pop up like u want.
2. I can say apps on Desire have more fun to use, but not so convenient for some basic function, e.g: HD2 have TCPMP, Core Player to play video that u dont have to spent hour to convert. Mobipocket reader to read prc. Office mobile is so convenient.
You will feel it's really fun with apps at first, but when u try everything that are recommended, you will just need the basic things which HD2 is better
3. I dont have a Desire, but based on reviews, battery life seem to be worse than HD2.
4. Desire can be rooted but u cannot do much thing with it like with HD2, and you will feel bored very soon in terms of customizing ur screen
i want the live wallpapers on my hd2 >.> xd
My Pennies worth...
I had both the Desire and HD2 for a week to compare..
Yes you do need to tweak the HD2 more (but that's part of the fun and being in the xda community)... and android is being developed for much quicker than anything else but I choose the HD2 for the following reasons..
1.The Camera is much better on the HD2 even though they are both 5 megapixel shooters, the HD2 was better in all conditions (low light etc)
2.There's no decent video player for android yet (compared to coreplayer, although I believe they're working on an android version)
3. I stream a lot of TV/Music and the beebplayer program is rubbish compared to myPlayer on winmo - having said that the LastFM widget for Android is really good.
4. The Screen is better IMHO on the HD2 in both size and quality
5. FPSEce is only available on winmo and is totally brilliant.
6. I've gambled on the fact that the HD2 may get an android port or windows 7 port by the talented devs on this site, and therefore give me the best of all worlds on a really powerful device.
The only thing i miss from Android at the moment is the live wallpapers... very cool
Some good posts, here, thanks a lot.
Re: Android ports for the HD2, ive heard this mentioned a lot. I know a bit about roms and things (I have duttythroys rom on the Diamond), but im not too sure about the OS. Is it feasible that HTC (or someone else) release a rom or something that would put Android onto the HD2? Is Windows 7 also a possibility? Obviously you can do it with a PC, jump from say XP to Windows 7, is the same move just as easy on a mobile device or does it require radical jiggerypokery?
Re: all the messages about looks, i have to be honest, i agree
LessThanSte said:
Some good posts, here, thanks a lot.
Re: Android ports for the HD2, ive heard this mentioned a lot. I know a bit about roms and things (I have duttythroys rom on the Diamond), but im not too sure about the OS. Is it feasible that HTC (or someone else) release a rom or something that would put Android onto the HD2? Is Windows 7 also a possibility? Obviously you can do it with a PC, jump from say XP to Windows 7, is the same move just as easy on a mobile device or does it require radical jiggerypokery?
Re: all the messages about looks, i have to be honest, i agree
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No way HTC will do that, just a dream
LessThanSte said:
Some good posts, here, thanks a lot.
Re: Android ports for the HD2, ive heard this mentioned a lot. I know a bit about roms and things (I have duttythroys rom on the Diamond), but im not too sure about the OS. Is it feasible that HTC (or someone else) release a rom or something that would put Android onto the HD2? Is Windows 7 also a possibility? Obviously you can do it with a PC, jump from say XP to Windows 7, is the same move just as easy on a mobile device or does it require radical jiggerypokery?
Re: all the messages about looks, i have to be honest, i agree
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mmh, microsoft said there will be NO upgrade to wm7.. but a port is possible, it did even succeed already to port wm7 to the hd2, its just buggy, and buggy means useless..
HTC will never make an android hd2 rom.. that would be really really really amazing if they would do that, but this are some crazy wishes xD
but yea, other HTC winmo phones got ports for android... even dualboot winmo/android. i would love that on the hd2 >=)
So i guess the point is that it *could* happen, even though it may not be official (as far as HTC are concerned?)
Just went to a mobile shop today and played with Desire for a while. IMO, I can conclude that the Desire with Android 2.1 is not interesting as it is advertised. Web browser is a very little faster, phone still laggy sometimes, not anything more special then 1.5 in terms of looks, customization. I still feel bored quite quickly
I have hd2 with custom nrg rom and android 2.2. i was thinking of changing it for desire hd but are there any advantages except the camera.
tnx
Better processer, better gpu, better build quality, better sound, better screen and more internal storage.
Its just better
teihoata said:
Better processer, better gpu, better build quality, better sound, better screen and more internal storage.
Its just better
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+1 and don't forget also the OS. Windows mobile is just fail.
marko_mk said:
I have hd2 with custom nrg rom and android 2.2. i was thinking of changing it for desire hd but are there any advantages except the camera.
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Even running Android on the HD2, while good, isn't as good as a Desire HD. I know. I upgraded from it
marko_mk said:
I have hd2 with custom nrg rom and android 2.2. i was thinking of changing it for desire hd but are there any advantages except the camera.
tnx
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LOL, if you are asking yourself this question and even are asking it on a forum dedicated to the Desire HD, the question must be rhetorical I speculate that you are looking for really good arguments that will stop you from buying one.
I bet you already have one right now
still not available in my country
i'm still waiting to become available in macedonia . So guys you say that the android port for hd2 will never be like the stock one on desire hd. when it arrives I'm definitively going to buy it
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i'm still waiting to become available in macedonia . So guys you say that the android port for hd2 will never be like the stock one on desire hd. when it arrives I'm definitively going to buy it
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you know its right
the new HTC sense on DHD is actually really really good!
I think this is what android should be. there are loads of subtle and nice functions such as notification for switch battery usage profile when battery below 15%, the super fast boot time (oooh yeahhh!)
and also HTC Hub that allows download of HTC's own app and functions.
and the software runs really smoothly on the hardware. All my android device in the past has suffered some degree of sluggish performance and glitches when running app (like occasional pause and etc.), particularly when compare to iPhone. But DesireHD is in a different class, its just really really smooth.
very impressive.
I ask the same question .. and I think I'll stay on WM for a while yet. I only have HD2 for a year, it's still in top shape. It does all I need it for, I invested some money into software, and if I want to play with android, I can just reboot. And DHD roms will soon get ported to HD2 I believe.
So I will wait till some problem shows up (like battery condition for example). There are some other cool android devices expected in summer next year, so let's see.
I must fight the urge to buy every cool phone which is just released
Ive posted some videos of comparison between both
im trying to decide between the wildfire and desire.
without going too into things, the wildfire has it's drawbacks (screensize, processing power), but it alot more affordable than the desire. that said, desire has the big screen and more raw power.
so to help me decide which i should go for, could you guys clarify some usability questions i have:
- a key feature (one of many!) on my current touchHD WM handset is the ability for handwriting notes. alot quicker to write down letters/number combinations (useful being in IT!). is the wildfire capable of reasonably handing fingerwriting?
- does anyone use igo/tomtom - i presume the wildfire is more than capable, i just want to be 100% sure.
- does wildfire lag/pause/freeze? one of the biggest issues i have with my TouchHD is wm6.1 lags, and wm6.5 is just a touch slow in general. this is one of the main factors of considering desire over wildfire.
- aside from the physical/hardware attributes of the wildfire, i cant see any real advantage of the desire over a wildfire.
- keyboard. is the wildfire capable of full QWERTY keyboard accurate typing, or is it a 'compressed' keyboard where QW is on 1 button, ER on the next, TY on the next and so on...
i'm sure i've missed something, but i can always ask that when i remember it
thanks for info guys!
It is quite slow mate. I am not using custom roms and with Android 2,1 its a bit slow.
Every now and then you have to deal with freezes.
Furthermore depending on your fingers handwriting in portrait mode can be a pain ...
This is the big trade off,what u sacrifice for the attractive price. If u can afford desire,and if a cell phone is more to u than a simple phone ,then u should go for desire.
Finally the arrival of desire hd with push down original desire's price
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thanks for that.
freezing and battery life are the 2 concerns i have.
freezing seems an issue on the wildfire (my concerns, and your experience), although appears to have slightly better battery life.
desire will no doubt need charging every other day but shouldnt suffer from freezing.
ebay has a few at a reasonable price, so i'm very tempted to go grab the desire sim-free.
edit: i might hold out actually, see what peoples experiences are with 2.2. i know 2.2 have a load of speed improvements so may fix the freezing on wildfire. decent handwriting would be a nice feature, but certainly not worth the premium... if handwriting isnt good enough on wildfire then i'll just use voice/keyboard entry.
veehexx said:
thanks for that.
freezing and battery life are the 2 concerns i have.
freezing seems an issue on the wildfire (my concerns, and your experience), although appears to have slightly better battery life.
desire will no doubt need charging every other day but shouldnt suffer from freezing.
ebay has a few at a reasonable price, so i'm very tempted to go grab the desire sim-free.
edit: i might hold out actually, see what peoples experiences are with 2.2. i know 2.2 have a load of speed improvements so may fix the freezing on wildfire. decent handwriting would be a nice feature, but certainly not worth the premium... if handwriting isnt good enough on wildfire then i'll just use voice/keyboard entry.
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My 5 copper: Freezing , none. It happens very rarely and when it does , it's me messing it up with custom frameworks and other crap.
Battery time. Right now i have 36hours uptime , about an hour calltime , about 2 hours surfing/marketbrowsing. Half an hour Angry birds and an hour or two of Spotify (offline). When i am not at home i have Wifi off and while on work , i only have 2g enabled.
Speedwise , you can't compare the speed with a Desire ofcourse. but it's much better in 2.2 , and with OC and the tweaks in CM6 it's very tolerable in my opinion. IS the desire worth it's money? , probably. I can only imagine how much better a Desire would be with a tweaked and OC'd rom. Only tried a Desire with original Rom.
I think Tomtom doesn't have version for android and I know igo works on wildfire, but there is no fully working version for 320x240. Version for 320x240 has some problems with icons and text placing out of screen etc.
Use Navigon or Sygic mobile maps for navigation on Wildfire.
Co pilot live works mint on my wildfire, not had any freezes using openfire 2.3, text imput, i use better keyboard and dont have any problems, i have quite big hands too, speed is not a problem and seeing as argos has wildfires for £130, very good price
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Alright fellas! pls don't shoot me if im repeating a common question, im currently using an HTC Desire & my friends are telling me that their galaxy S i9000 is better. I've done my research & I kinda like it but there is alot of negative vibe cus of the gps & video calling features.
I have 4 questions:
a. Is video calling practical both on wifi/3g? And what apps can we use to make video calls((Skype, Fring, Tango, gtalk{ve used gtalk video calling on my N900}))?
b. Is the internal memory(RAM) is sufficient for apps?
c. And does it gives problem for gps locking using maps.?
D>> Would you buy Galaxy S over HTC Desire, keep in mind desire has a solid Sense UI?
Im ready to make a move but im much concerned before i make a move, Im quite happy with my desire. You help is much appreciated. thanks.
I compared my SGS with my friend's Desire the other day, when he was doing something with his HTC and he said "hey download this and that..." and I was embarrased that my SGS was so laggy (seconds to open maps, to respond to touch, pinch...) and also the GPS worked like a charm, when with my SGS I want to throw the phone to someone because it doesn't get a lock D
But don't worry, I disabled some applications and widgets from Beautiful Widgets and it's as fast as a lightning. I think it's the file system so you need a lag fix, you can download from here DDDD
I'm running stock Froyo JPO. People here are running JPZ and custom ROMs and they perform way better and have better GPS.
The screen is way better than Desire, and the processor/GPU too.
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I compared my SGS with my friend's Desire the other day, when he was doing something with his HTC and he said "hey download this and that..." and I was embarrased that my SGS was so laggy (seconds to open maps, to respond to touch, pinch...) and also the GPS worked like a charm, when with my SGS I want to throw the phone to someone because it doesn't get a lock D
But don't worry, I disabled some applications and widgets from Beautiful Widgets and it's as fast as a lightning. I think it's the file system so you need a lag fix, you can download from here DDDD
I'm running stock Froyo JPO. People here are running JPZ and custom ROMs and they perform way better and have better GPS.
The screen is way better than Desire, and the processor/GPU too.
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Thanks for the input my friend but you didnt asnwer my questions.
I dont thinnk it worths givng all this money just for a little better screen...There is very few things that Desire cant do but SGS can and those things dot worth 400 euroes..
fring works for me on 3g and wifi both very good
b.no u can never have enough ram but i barrely see force closes it is enough to doesn't getting annoying
c.gps works, ,ok'' for me but it sure has some problems for some
d yes any day the display blows ur mind two of my coworker have the desire one oled the other slcd in my oppinion the difference is huge
beside of that my sgs is alot faster but there phones aren't modded so u can't compare that.... beside of that the desire has a better build quality imo
but if u have a desire don't get the sgs it isn't worth it
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fring works for me on 3g and wifi both very good
b.no u can never have enough ram but i barrely see force closes it is enough to doesn't getting annoying
c.gps works, ,ok'' for me but it sure has some problems for some
d yes any day the display blows ur mind two of my coworker have the desire one oled the other slcd in my oppinion the difference is huge
beside of that my sgs is alot faster but there phones aren't modded so u can't compare that.... beside of that the desire has a better build quality imo
but if u have a desire don't get the sgs it isn't worth it
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alright! so 3 votes agaisnt SGS...
just need 2 more votes and im done. ill stick to desire
Unless you need 720p recording, or are rich, you are using a device which is the same generation device as the SGS anyway.. Why do you think it makes sense to upgrade?
I think you are wrong about the telus or i9000t it is na 3g and has a front facing camera.. look at the ones at newegg.com and xpansys-usa.com
Auzy said:
Unless you need 720p recording, or are rich, you are using a device which is the same generation device as the SGS anyway.. Why do you think it makes sense to upgrade?
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Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
I started watching this video and then he started talking. Clothes instantly came off.
Benicio del Toro??????
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Great video! What ROM are you using?
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Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
This video actually doesn't prove a thing. You usually don't see much of a difference unless you did something more resource heavy than what I saw him do in the video.
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
nemo09 said:
Yes, would be interessting to know which ROM is used on the DHD. Runs really smooth in my opinion. Currently i'm using Virtuos Infinity v1.30.0 Alpha 1.
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It's using Primo s v3.5 as you can see when he gos to the software version
Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
haerigrek said:
Actually marl30 is right, you can take any phone and do those things fairly quickly, the difference is in the heavy using. What is the point of having ICS if your phone will not be able to play games as smoothly as it used to before. Some people would say they don't need games, but that is not the issue. A company such as HTC is obliged to provide a ROM with full functionality, heavy gaming included. If in their opinion DHD is not capable of running games on ICS the same way it was on GB then their not releasing ICS for DHD would be fully understandable. Although I tried gaming on HTC and must say that there is little difference in performance. The issue is that the drivers are not perfect and sometimes there are glitches on the screen or some lights missing.
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1- little difference.
2- nothing is perfect, even htc's last oficial rom was buggy
3- of course there are glitches, devs here are either porting from other phones or building from ground up and doing a hell of a good job.
4- and yeah, I do agree with your initial statement - but that is not the issue as stated beforehand.
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Don't get me wrong, I also think we should get ICS or even JB. I believe that it would run like hell on our DHDs. I'm only saying that you can't compare those two phones barely on such mundane tasks like opening an sms app or launching facebook. The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
Try running these two through a benchmark or measure the framerate on some gameloft games (Asphalt, GT Motor Academy etc.) the difference will be huge.
Quite frankly, to me the only viable reason for us is the fact that HTC One V (or One S) is actually the same phone as our DHD but with ****ty camera, and that thing is getting ICS. So if the same hardware with worse camera can operate sufficiently under ICS why can't the DHD. It obviously is a scam on us customers to make us leave the great device that we have and go spend our money on some new HTC phone. If you ask me that whole thing with ICS helped me with a decision, I know now that my next phone will not be HTC, probably SGS III or Note 2, at least they get support.
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The test with locking and unlocking the phone is just playing stupid. You can take any new phone and compare it to any old phone and the result will be the same, the task is designed to be easy on the phone so to be accomplished quickly.
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Yes, but both devices use same software so its only the matter of hardware (and cpu scheduler) how fast they unlock But yea, it clearly did not proove anything besides that Desire HD can run Ice Cream Sandwich like big phones can. I think that was the point?
Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
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Well, almost. What I meant was that running ICS is one thing, other thing is to run apps on ICS. In the same way you can compare an old PC and a new PC. Old one will run games ok under Win XP. New one will run games the same under Win7. But if you install Win7 on the old PC the system itself will run fine, simple tasks will run as well as on the new one but you will not be able to play your games anymore.
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Comparing windows to android is like comparing a toyota to a benz.
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The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
haerigrek said:
The idea is the same. Comparison to windows was merely to exemplify my point.
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I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
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Teichopsia said:
I got your point (edit: maybe I didn't), but it is not the same to put a benz engine in a toyota frame than a toyota engine in a benz.
Android is basically linux (someone correct me if I wrong), and linux is developed in such a way you can put it in older machines and works much better than windows in the same machine.
If android follows the same philosophy, then there is no reason why a fully optimized ics or jb can't work on our dhd's/inspires.
I may be wrong and I may have digressed from your initial premise, if I did sorrry.
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You are correct. Because every update does not make the system resource heavy, but its optimized so it runs smoother and buttery good, like jelly bean. Its not like windows - they are heavier and heavier because they want people to buy new computers. Remember - windows has 85% sales when people buy windows preinstalled on computers. You cant compare it with android or cars (cars and engine - you are talking hardware here, we are all about software)
miHah said:
Hello everybody.
If anyone is interested how our device performs next to the "big boy" like One X, here is a video showing you exactly that.
Besides, it prooves absolutely the oposite of what HTC have said about our device running better android 2.3.5 than android 4.0.
Make love, not war!
miHah
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I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
HTC should learn something from this.. The developers in XDA can do this so why cant the engineers at HTC??
They should hire their developers from XDA
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I.. do not fully understand. You show a video proving the animation speeds are the same? If im not mistaken, arnt the animations made to run at a certain speed? If thats the case then the video really doesnt prove anything between the two phones.
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In video it was pointed out that all setting on both phones are the same, so its all matter of harware how the phones perform.
ErnestoD said:
Thanks a lot man U have just confirmed what we all were suspecting. This device is more than capable for running ICS and HTC just want us to buy another cellphone
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We all know HTC i not being sincere by saying we wont have a nice experience on ICS... Its just some marketing decisions.. Stupid company..