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HTC touch ELFIN HELP

Hi everyone.
This is my first time in xda and i am here posting because i have a problem with my htc elfin.
I bought the phone from e-bay. The seller told me it was unlocked but in fact it wasnt. It was on Orange and i had to unlock it using a program i bought on ebay (latter i saw it for free online ). The program was designed for htc elf but i was told it would work. Well, in fact it did, but i have a problem... The phone easilly loses network and even when it was network it wont make or receive calls... Texting works ok... I really dont know what to do... Can anyone help me??
Best regards

Hi,
Well, I hate to break the news to you, but it does kind of sound like the phone may be broken... two things you could try anyways:
a) Perform a hard-reset: Switch off your phone, keep both phone buttons pressed (green&red) and switch it on. The out-of-box state will be restored and all your data will be erased (!). So backup your contacts before doing this.
If this does not work, then it is highly likely that your phone has some sort of hardware-issue. But you may still want to try
b) Upgrade the firmware of your phone (including the radio part!). Just look around in this forum, there's basically everything you need. Always pay close attention to the how-to-guides & make sure you proceed exactly as decribed there.
Good luck,
murosama

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I tryed what you said. Hard reset made nothing but updating rom did... I his working better but not perfect... Maybe some antena problem dont you think?

Phone part of the phone is messed up!

Hi guys, first of all i wan't to thank the whole community for this awesome site, it has really helped me alot with my Xperia X1!.
(Xperia X1i R3AA Swedish orignal ROM)
I was configuring some stuff yesterday in the programs "SKtools" and "Advanced config", nothing serious, just removed pocket controller from autostart, uninstalled a program and changed the name & function of the Softkey #1 + a couple of different tweaks that has nothing to do with this.
That was the last thing i did, and a while later when i was using the phone i noticed that i had no signal, so i touched the signal-symbol and the pop-up said "no service" (pic #1).
Now when i start up my device it skips the PIN code screen and doesn't connect to any phone service anymore...
When i click the phone button, nothing happens, when i click on contacts or the sim-manager the pin-screen pops up and enter the code, but it still wont connect after that.. i can't recieve calls or make any, but when someone phones me the LEDs still light up as if it's calling, so it still recieves the signal... and if i manually check for carriers i find my carrier in the list (pic #2&3).
I'm really lost of what could of gone wrong.. have any of you ever experienced anything like this? Could i had happened to accidently touch something in those programs that could have caused this?
I also want to add that i did check some stuff out in the \windows folder where i tried a couple of .exe's (which i now realise i shouldn't have done...) one of them being wrlsmgr.exe which looks like an old version of the CommManager.exe where i happened to turn of the phone communication, but i started it up from there again too...
I tried a friends SIM in my phone and still the same problem, while my SIM works in his phone, so it is the phone the problem lies within.
I've searched like mad for this problem & I'd really appreciate any tip/suggestion for a fix, worst case i'll have to back up all important stuff and start over with a re-flash.
Please ask if something is unclear..(could add more screendumps, describe something i left out etc) i find the problem quite hard to describe... and i don't really remember all the stuff i did just before this happened.

i would first backtrack everything you did leading up the the stopping of the phone and undo it and if that doesnt work then Hard reset is the best bet for fixing it.

Yeah, i tried backtracking everything, but to no avail..
(Can also add that i altered some stuff in the "Tune Up!" option in SKTools at the same time, but nothing that should affect anything serious)

noONExda said:
Yeah, i tried backtracking everything, but to no avail..
(Can also add that i altered some stuff in the "Tune Up!" option in SKTools at the same time, but nothing that should affect anything serious)
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well if i were you i'd go into the phone settings and make sure everything there is set properly and if that doesnt help i'd hard reset - bit annoying i know but its the best bet (dont forget to back up all your stuff!)

Yeah, i've trippled checked everything, and all looks ok...
I'll probably have to hard reset (same as flashing the R3AA ROM over again, right?) it's just that i've had the phone for 2 weeks and yesterday when i finally had gotten EVERYTHING as i wanted it to ( the RAMdisk & final configuration of pocket plus being the last 2 big things i did), it messed up on me, when i were going to stop fiddling with specials... -.-
Thanks anyway, if i can't find a solution by tomorrow i'll re-flash it.

noONExda said:
Yeah, i've trippled checked everything, and all looks ok...
I'll probably have to hard reset (same as flashing the R3AA ROM over again, right?) it's just that i've had the phone for 2 weeks and yesterday when i finally had gotten EVERYTHING as i wanted it to ( the RAMdisk & final configuration of pocket plus being the last 2 big things i did), it messed up on me, when i were going to stop fiddling with specials... -.-
Thanks anyway, if i can't find a solution by tomorrow i'll re-flash it.
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yea - i wouldnt go fiddiling around with stuff in the windows folder or anything either

yeah i'll make sure not to do that next time, i was just curious to find out if there was an .exe or something that would turn the Wi-Fi off/on when you start it (to make the softkey #1 activate it), but i guess that's embeded in some .dll or something, didn't think some exe in the \Windows folder could mess stuff up like this >_>...

Need software help!!

Ok since I upgraded to the 2.1 myphone has been having major problems almost to the point where I cant use it anymore. I have done a factory reset 3 times and still hasnt fixed the problems. I did do the upgrade over the air, what I need to know is, is there anyway I can downgrade back to the 1.5 or manually re upload the 2.1 version to see if it fixes my problems. Thank you.

what is exactly wrong with your phone that is making it unusable?

There is no current way to downgrade 2.1 to 1.5, even with OTA update, unless you would like to flash the root image, then downgrade back to regular 1.5... Also we may be able to better assist you if you explain the issues you are having with your phone a little better.

The issues I am having are text app force closes all the time, mostly when the phone itself is charging. I dont receive texts a lot, I have to *228 frequently through out the day. When I am at the homescreen the pages will slide all the way to the left and stay there the only way I can get back to anywhere is to either do a soft reset or long press the home key to go to another app. The biggest problem though is the texting and like i said it mostly just happens when the phone is charging. But the keyboard will seriously lag, force close...the cursor jumps to the begining of whatever i am saying or just randomly go to the left and mix all my words up.

have you installed any apps or do you use any widgets? are you using the sense home launcher?

i have not installed any apps since the 3rd time i did the factory reset, and i have no idea about the other question.

It sounds to me like there was some corruption with your OTA update. I would venture to say that you have two options here:
1. Take your Eris into Verizon and have them replace it.
or
2. Root your Eris and enjoy the many available roms here.
*Standard disclaimer: I am not responsible for what you do to your device, it is your choice to do whatever you please...*

why don't you just go into the verizon wieless store and tell them what is happening and they will give you a replacement. i had slight wifi issues so i went there and they gave me a new phone on the dot! they might make you do some factory resets and such there also

yeah thats what i think too..but since i did the over the air update to the 2.1 i didnt think I could do any roots or whatever. I am not that knowledgable when it comes to the roots or any of that. I would like to do that so I can fix my phone and actually use it. Can you please provide me with step by step instructions on how to do that.

ok i am not responsible for this but here is the link to the instructions:http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-eris/53963-guide-stock-1-5-latest-root-2-1-a.html
also this will void your warranty so you can't get a free replacement from verizon after you root
update: these are instructions for windows if you search around you can find instructions for linux and mac (i rooted on a mac so if you need help PM me and i will respond when i can (i am not an expert))

ok so once i dothe root or whatever will my contacts still sync with google?? I cant get a replacement phone anyhow because I bought this phone from a private owner, but I did not have problems with it until right after I did the upgrade a few weeks after I bought the phone.

naenaek22 said:
yeah thats what i think too..but since i did the over the air update to the 2.1 i didnt think I could do any roots or whatever. I am not that knowledgable when it comes to the roots or any of that. I would like to do that so I can fix my phone and actually use it. Can you please provide me with step by step instructions on how to do that.
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Here is a link to a thread that will take you through the root process. These guys, ECLIPS3 and Jamezelle, know their stuff! They even made an app to do the hard part.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661413

naenaek22 said:
ok so once i dothe root or whatever will my contacts still sync with google?? I cant get a replacement phone anyhow because I bought this phone from a private owner, but I did not have problems with it until right after I did the upgrade a few weeks after I bought the phone.
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Yes, you can still sync with Google. (Did someone say g00gl3?) Lolz
Anyhow, just do some research as you choose which rom to load. Every rom has it's own features and charateristics. Also, make sure to create Nandroid backups whenever flashing from rom to rom just in case of issues. Good luck!

ok since i am very illiterate about the whole rom thing and all that..can you please in your opionion tell me which way to go?? I wont hold anything against you I just want to be able to use my freakin phone. I dont really care about the techy stuff as long as i can use the apps and text and make calls I am good. I looked at the link you provided "google" lol..and i am not sure quite how to do it. I know i am being a big pain right now I just dont want to mess my phone up.

actually the jumpy screen while charging thing is pretty common I believe its a hardware issue though...its my belief the mini usb connecter on the eris is shoddy
plug in the charger and wiggle it you may notice the connetor is not properly fastened to the phone
fyi DO NOT hold the phone up or horizontial by the usb plug...my wife did that to both our phones and ever since then it will flake out
a quick fix would be to plug in wiggle it and unplug you want the mini usb connector back in alignment

naenaek22 said:
ok since i am very illiterate about the whole rom thing and all that..can you please in your opionion tell me which way to go?? I wont hold anything against you I just want to be able to use my freakin phone. I dont really care about the techy stuff as long as i can use the apps and text and make calls I am good. I looked at the link you provided "google" lol..and i am not sure quite how to do it. I know i am being a big pain right now I just dont want to mess my phone up.
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No worries - everyone is hesitant at first - no one wants to brick their phone...
What kind of computer do you use; Windows, Mac, or Linux? This is important for following the root procedure.
I still believe the EMA app that I linked is your best bet. It handles the tough command line tasks for you.
As for a rom, you can see by my signature that I prefer Sense-able 3.1 from Jamezelle. But I also really like Evil Eris 2.0.1 by Framework43.
I would probably suggest Sense-able 3.1 for you because it is based on an Eris build. I have found it to be very stable and doesn't really need any tweaks to run well.
*Just wanted to note that I am in no way knocking any other roms or devs on these boards. Thank you to all the talented devs out there for all the work you do!!!*

i downloaded the sensible rom..as far as the app goes how do I go about getting that or whatever?? I am running windows..but the sensible rom file is downloaded to my desk top i havent done anything with it yet beings that I dont have a clue as to what I am doing lol..

naenaek22 said:
ok since i am very illiterate about the whole rom thing and all that..can you please in your opionion tell me which way to go?? I wont hold anything against you I just want to be able to use my freakin phone. I dont really care about the techy stuff as long as i can use the apps and text and make calls I am good. I looked at the link you provided "google" lol..and i am not sure quite how to do it. I know i am being a big pain right now I just dont want to mess my phone up.
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use the app that jamezelle and i made. its super simple. were always on the irc server if you need help. chat.andirc.net

i am working on downloading it now, i am downloading the net 4 thing ..but i am going into this blind..

naenaek22 said:
i am working on downloading it now, i am downloading the net 4 thing ..but i am going into this blind..
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Just download the EMA app and use it. The thread has instructions to use it. Just read the part about pre-requisites to install the needed software. Then run EMA and follow the center column of 4 commands. Thats really all there is to it.
Like I said earlier, ECLIPS3 and Jamezelle do great work and are willing to provide help. As he said above...

[Q] issue with htc hd2 password

I had put a pattern lock on my HTC HD2 but my phone went dead and after I put it in charge and turned it on the phone won't accept the right password like it doesn't recognize it ... so now im locked outta my phone . I know how to do a factory reset , but i dont wanna erase everything ..
I heard a whole bunch of stuffs and people everywhere be saying that they haven't heard any other way then the master reset to unlock the phone so I was wondering is there any other way I can unlock the phone without having to do a master reset cause I haven't backing up my datas on the phone yet and since it's locked now it doen't even allow me now to do any kind of synchronization on my pc. So since yall are the experts on that matter please help me cause I'm afraid of losing all my informations on the phone and it has been about two weeks now since I put the phone on a corner somewhere unuseful and waiting for an answer.
thanks already guys !

Unfortunately, there is no way out other than a reset. Sucks to hear I know. However, yank the SD card out first, at least you wont lose anything that's on that.
Going forward, you can use the built in Microsoft MyPhone to sync backups to your live account. Or any other number of backup software that's out there. You can also set your phone and video to save to the SD card.
Sorry man, it's the most frustrating thing about this phone.

Yea that is so frustrating ... but is there any way that I can back up my datas before i perform that master reset cause I have never back them up before and everything is saved on the phone even my contacts cause as the phone locked right now it seems impossible to me to do anything at all. Anytime I'm trying to synchronize the datas on my pc it won't let me and said "your phone is locked authenticate your phone first". So is there any way out ?

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Yea that is so frustrating ... but is there any way that I can back up my datas before i perform that master reset cause I have never back them up before and everything is saved on the phone even my contacts cause as the phone locked right now it seems impossible to me to do anything at all. Anytime I'm trying to synchronize the datas on my pc it won't let me and said "your phone is locked authenticate your phone first". So is there any way out ?
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Unfortunately that's one of the bugs, that the lock screen will no longer function correctly, you won't be able to get in, ever, sorry

i think i know why it happens, at least for me...
seems whenever i install certain cabs, then uninstall them, this happens. most recently has been a swype cab i found off here, was the latest version for t-mobile hd2s. it installed fine and worked fine, but when i removed it, it caused the issue. i reformatted and only installed that cab, setup a pin, rebooted, worked, uninstalled the swype cab, rebooted, broke-wouldn't take the pin.
so maybe it has something to do with using non stock roms and using different kinds of cabs or something...

Just happened to me last week due to a forced server exchange policy.
Hard reset is it. Confirmed by HTC.
Known bug with no fix on the way it seems.

same happended to me...and still looking to fix it
i already did the reset they told not to put a password on my phone
so im lookin if they find a fix so i can use password

Stuck in bootloader --> Volume down is broken/stuck

Edit: Im stuck in bootloader with the only option to press power on is fastboot. and from there i cannot select any options because the navigation is broken. Im looking to restore it to factory so i can take it to the sprint store to have replaced. Please help me! Most likely an autorun from fastboot or a computer pushed through usb command promt that i can take over the phone. PLease HELP!

Have you tried the ruu? Its an executive file that you run from your computer and it restores your phone to stock. I've never had to run it so I cant tell you the exact details of how it works, but that could do the trick. I think there is a way also via using fastboot commands, but someone more intelligent then I will have to provide you with links. Also have you tried putting unrevoked forever s-on on your sd card and naming it PC36100.img then butting into hboot and letting it scan for that? Once it finds it, it should flash it on its own, then once youve done that, you can pull your sdcard again, delete that PC36100.img and put the PC36100.img that returns you to stock on your sdcard then boot into hboot again. It should find that image then flash you back to stock.

Ill try that. My down button is definatly either stuck, disconnected or something. When i press the up button and power it will Vibrate 5 times.
Ok i got the zip to load but my down and up buttons do nothing. is there a way i can have recovery auto run? or edit the hboot so that it automatically runs the recover.img?
Update: It's stuck in bootloader i guess... I restart and the volume down is stuck im pretty sure so it always goes to that. I have it hooked up to my computer, can i push commands through usb to it in bootloader menu...
Fastboot
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Sim-lock
etc.
my only working option is to click power and have the fastboot initiate and then give me an option [1] ........ that i am unable to highlight or get to because of the stuck down button.

y0ungcitty said:
Ill try that. My down button is definatly either stuck, disconnected or something. When i press the up button and power it will Vibrate 5 times.
Ok i got the zip to load but my down and up buttons do nothing. is there a way i can have recovery auto run? or edit the hboot so that it automatically runs the recover.img?
Update: It's stuck in bootloader i guess... I restart and the volume down is stuck im pretty sure so it always goes to that. I have it hooked up to my computer, can i push commands through usb to it in bootloader menu...
Fastboot
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Sim-lock
etc.
my only working option is to click power and have the fastboot initiate and then give me an option [1] ........ that i am unable to highlight or get to because of the stuck down button.
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all you need is fastboot mode, from there you can run the RUU

xHausx said:
all you need is fastboot mode, from there you can run the RUU
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What driver do i need for the device?
For some reason its not showing up as ready to do it.

The htc sync drivers
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What driver do i need for the device?
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Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Both my volume keys are broken so I took my evo apart and used a thin metal to push the spring that controls the keys and load up a nandroid. Hope this helps.

alexisprz said:
Both my volume keys are broken so I took my evo apart and used a thin metal to push the spring that controls the keys and load up a nandroid. Hope this helps.
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Load up nandroid?? im so out of the whole evo scene. can i have a link or procedure.... sorry for being a big noob.

If I can remember, running the stock ruu exe will do everything for you without any need for you to do anything with the phone to help it. Just make sure you have the htc sync program installed. Next make sure the phone is on and running (not in hboot or recovery). Plug the phone into the computer with the data cable. Make sure it's only in charge mode. Run the ruu exe. Be patient because it might take some time to start up. Make sure you have nothing running in the background on the pc. No antivirus or anything and I do mean anything. Don't touch or move the phone or cable while the ruu is running or you might risk bricking the phone if the connection between the phone and pc is interrupted. Don't let the computer go to sleep or standby. Make sure your phone's battery has a full charge. The ruu will make the phone reboot into upload mode. Then it will upload all the stuff the phone needs to be put back to factory. It might reboot the phone a few times. This is normal. You don't have to worry about the broken volume buttons interfering with ruu.
Lastly, make sure you remove your sd card before you get to the store to let the tech check it out. Don't offer any additional information. Just tell them the volume buttons stopped working and you did a full factory reset before you got there.
After running the ruu, don't sign into google account so your personal information won't be on the phone and none of the programs you bought will show up in the market. You should have a backup old phone with you so you or they can activate it for you in case they want to keep or swap it out. If they give you a refurb, power it up and test it at the counter to your satisfaction BEFORE you leave the counter and store. I noticed something wrong with the refurb they gave me and I'm glad I didn't walk away. The tech fixed the problem with the refurb (uneven backlighting on the screen). I was able to use my old screen with the refurb's guts and my screen didn't have any flaws in it.
You do what you want but this is my suggestion based on my experience with exchanging a defective phone. I have full insurance and or tep so it was a hassle free experience.

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If I can remember, running the stock ruu exe will do everything for you without any need for you to do anything with the phone to help it. Just make sure you have the htc sync program installed. Next make sure the phone is on and running (not in hboot or recovery). Plug the phone into the computer with the data cable. Make sure it's only in charge mode. Run the ruu exe. Be patient because it might take some time to start up. Make sure you have nothing running in the background on the pc. No antivirus or anything and I do mean anything. Don't touch or move the phone or cable while the ruu is running or you might risk bricking the phone if the connection between the phone and pc is interrupted. Don't let the computer go to sleep or standby. Make sure your phone's battery has a full charge. The ruu will make the phone reboot into upload mode. Then it will upload all the stuff the phone needs to be put back to factory. It might reboot the phone a few times. This is normal. You don't have to worry about the broken volume buttons interfering with ruu.
Lastly, make sure you remove your sd card before you get to the store to let the tech check it out. Don't offer any additional information. Just tell them the volume buttons stopped working and you did a full factory reset before you got there.
After running the ruu, don't sign into google account so your personal information won't be on the phone and none of the programs you bought will show up in the market. You should have a backup old phone with you so you or they can activate it for you in case they want to keep or swap it out. If they give you a refurb, power it up and test it at the counter to your satisfaction BEFORE you leave the counter and store. I noticed something wrong with the refurb they gave me and I'm glad I didn't walk away. The tech fixed the problem with the refurb (uneven backlighting on the screen). I was able to use my old screen with the refurb's guts and my screen didn't have any flaws in it.
You do what you want but this is my suggestion based on my experience with exchanging a defective phone. I have full insurance and or tep so it was a hassle free experience.
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I already have a pre activated but i cannot get the phone to start without going into the Power+Down Menu... Can i run RUU from that? im not able to get it running on Android

I don't know. Something worse could happen but there's also a chance it might work. I am guessing ruu would tell it to reboot into upload mode. If the phone couldn't get into that mode the ruu might stop. This is just speculation. If you knew that the tech wouldn't bust you for having root, then I'd say to just take it in. It's a big risk in my opinion.
I don't know if there is a img file to fastboot flash a stock recovery. I don't know if that would help. Need to figure out a way to get the s-on and push stock back into it, or at the very least get s-on in hboot.
I'm thinking that because if the button is broke, and you can't get the phone past the hboot screen, then maybe the tech might not want to waste anymore time on it and just order a replacement. The hboot screen would be the only thing he could get into. I don't know but I think it could be helpful, maybe, if adb or something else could push an original rom into it at the screen it's stuck in. I think if you tried, if it wasn't working, the phone and adb wouldn't be communicating like normal and adb would not continue. I am guessing pushing a stock recovery wouldn't turn s-on. It would be great if it did.
I would say that talking with one of the devs that has got their hands dirty in hboot and fastboot, might give better advice. Perhaps they know of a way to force things into the phone that the general public wouldn't normally need to know or do. I am no expert. I suggest talking to people that developed in those areas. Didn't toast work with that?
I don't know what else to suggest. I'm running out of ideas.

I just had another idea. What if you could get a pc36img.zip, or whatever it's called, into root of the card and the phone will want to flash it. Only snag I can think of is I think hboot will ask if you want to flash or update or whatever it's called. That might be the down button. Maybe someone could run with that idea?
I would say read the rooting articles and see if you can adapt what they are saying to push stock everything back in instead of trying to root.
Even if you can't get the updated rom to install, if it can be pushed into the phone and the phone is made to boot like normal, the phone "should" try to apply it if anyone can get it to boot normally. I'm thinking that's another way to cover your ass.
If all else fails, then I would suggest to say a little prayer before going to the store and hope for a tech that isn't going to be a **** about it. Don't get an attitude towards the employees because that could make things much more difficult for you. A seasoned dev or a tech might be the only people that could help. Going into the irc channel for the evo and hanging around in there might get you hooked up with someone that could help more than the people that hang in the forums. I don't see serious devs hanging around the forum and bullshitting with the people there. Go where they might be, in irc. Be cool with them, don't be aggressive or flaky. If you are nice/cool with them, they might take the time away from what they are working on to help you.

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I just had another idea. What if you could get a pc36img.zip, or whatever it's called, into root of the card and the phone will want to flash it. Only snag I can think of is I think hboot will ask if you want to flash or update or whatever it's called. That might be the down button. Maybe someone could run with that idea?
I would say read the rooting articles and see if you can adapt what they are saying to push stock everything back in instead of trying to root.
Even if you can't get the updated rom to install, if it can be pushed into the phone and the phone is made to boot like normal, the phone "should" try to apply it if anyone can get it to boot normally. I'm thinking that's another way to cover your ass.
If all else fails, then I would suggest to say a little prayer before going to the store and hope for a tech that isn't going to be a **** about it. Don't get an attitude towards the employees because that could make things much more difficult for you. A seasoned dev or a tech might be the only people that could help. Going into the irc channel for the evo and hanging around in there might get you hooked up with someone that could help more than the people that hang in the forums. I don't see serious devs hanging around the forum and bullshitting with the people there. Go where they might be, in irc. Be cool with them, don't be aggressive or flaky. If you are nice/cool with them, they might take the time away from what they are working on to help you.
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thanks! were can i go to find this irc? ive gotten a recovery image on the evo's root micro sd in a pc3600 or w.e zip and gotten it to ask me if id like to run it but it wont go any further than that because i cant chose the option. I have a bit of nail glue and im thinking about trying to glue a hair pin to the down button and giving it a pull while i try and run or maybe i can break the button and say oh well... and then from there do it. I dont have any hex or w.e screw driver that are small enough to open the case and do the option described in page one of this forum. Thank you everyone for the help! and keep the ideas coming. I refuse to let this turn out bad, worst comes to worst ill replicate water damage or something and fry the damn thing. then bring it in as a brick.

Any guru's have a quick idea because i want to do this swap.. im so sick of the palm pre. Its like a baby compared to android.

The irc info should be on one of the stickies at the top of the forum. Shouldn't it say something like join us at #evo or something like that.
This is where you can be opening a can of worms, so you've been warned. You can go to sears I think and the tool section and I think they might sell those wierd screwdrivers. I found one that worked for my macbook's harddrive brackets. It's long, has a black handle and generally different colored caps on top of the handle. I kinda doubt radio shack would have it but you could try. Oh, and get a guitar pick to use a the tool to separate the two halves of the phone. I wouldn't use anything else or it might f up the plastic and be obvious you was inside. Maybe look for an evo teardown video somewhere to show you what to expect. Don't force anything!

herbthehammer said:
The irc info should be on one of the stickies at the top of the forum. Shouldn't it say something like join us at #evo or something like that.
This is where you can be opening a can of worms, so you've been warned. You can go to sears I think and the tool section and I think they might sell those wierd screwdrivers. I found one that worked for my macbook's harddrive brackets. It's long, has a black handle and generally different colored caps on top of the handle. I kinda doubt radio shack would have it but you could try. Oh, and get a guitar pick to use a the tool to separate the two halves of the phone. I wouldn't use anything else or it might f up the plastic and be obvious you was inside. Maybe look for an evo teardown video somewhere to show you what to expect. Don't force anything!
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Thanks I baught a T5 screw driver that will be here the 10th or the 11th and im excited to crack it open haha. Ill let you know the updates of what happens and how the sprint reps react. To w.e damage i decide to throw at it

y0ungcitty said:
Thanks I baught a T5 screw driver that will be here the 10th or the 11th and im excited to crack it open haha. Ill let you know the updates of what happens and how the sprint reps react. To w.e damage i decide to throw at it
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Came in. and i opened the phone up jiggled the down button got it unstuck and then I was able to re-flash a custom rom so im just going to use this phone untilll it really ****s the bed again.