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i just recently got a htc magic with the e911 update just wondering is this is rootable ?
I'm just wondering, have you searched?
Answer is No.
Ok so I got my shiney new HTC Magic from rogers, for f*cking free thanks to that deal that enabled dream owners to get the magic for free. I harassed for a month an a half. But I am loving it, I'm using it as my main phone. But I can't find anything on rooting the new update for the damn thing. Is there even a name for this update. I'm glad I signed that waiver for dream owners. Cuz if I did it for the dream, I would have a useless peice of ****. So as the first guy asked, where is the root?
I have search and i am unable to find a straight answer.
epicdean said:
I have search and i am unable to find a straight answer.
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Straight answer: No.
If the update becomes rootable, it would be clear.
but I red that there was a work around like we have to make sure we have the same radio as the new update so like that rogers won't know we are rooted users and dont get the data cut off is that true or it's just bogus?
WWW.rogers.com/htcwaiver
don't want to upgrade?
Sign it!
fdesrosi said:
but I red that there was a work around like we have to make sure we have the same radio as the new update so like that rogers won't know we are rooted users and dont get the data cut off is that true or it's just bogus?
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You need a rooted phone to get the work around. If you update to the newest update then there is no point in trying this loophole since you have the newest SPL and radio that they want you to have.
The newest update is not rooted.
If you have a Rogers Magic with the new update and ARE NOT using it in Canada on Rogers (ex: in US on ATT), can you change the ROM to a rooted ROM or am I just SOL on Wifi Tether?
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If you have a Rogers Magic with the new update and ARE NOT using it in Canada on Rogers (ex: in US on ATT), can you change the ROM to a rooted ROM or am I just SOL on Wifi Tether?
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That doesn't make much sense -- if the newest updated ROM (1.76.0010 for ROGERS) is not rooted, what makes you think you can change the ROM if your not in Canada? It's still the same unrooted SPL.
If you try using WiFi tethering, you are going to get billed up the ying yang with charges with roaming and tethering charges if you don't have a tethering package.
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That doesn't make much sense -- if the newest updated ROM (1.76.0010 for ROGERS) is not rooted, what makes you think you can change the ROM if your not in Canada? It's still the same unrooted SPL.
If you try using WiFi tethering, you are going to get billed up the ying yang with charges with roaming and tethering charges if you don't have a tethering package.
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That is what I was asking, just didn't phrase it right. I've switched to 32A Magic from a MT3G to have 3G bands for AT&T. So far not impressed with this Rogers ROM, almost makes me want to deal with EDGE again just so I can use a ROM that I like. Thanks for your answer.
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That is what I was asking, just didn't phrase it right. I've switched to 32A Magic from a MT3G to have 3G bands for AT&T. So far not impressed with this Rogers ROM, almost makes me want to deal with EDGE again just so I can use a ROM that I like. Thanks for your answer.
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No problem. Just make sure you watch out for the tethering, heard some bad stories with ROGERS + tethering.
There are so many topics about this now.. you'd think Rogers would do something about it.
What could Rogers possibly benifit from "locking" this phone like this. Kinda takes away from the 'open-sourceness' of the device.
stillriza said:
There are so many topics about this now.. you'd think Rogers would do something about it.
What could Rogers possibly benifit from "locking" this phone like this. Kinda takes away from the 'open-sourceness' of the device.
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ROGERS just wants you to have their ROM with their applications. That is really all it's about. ROGERS says "we have to test out updates to see if they work with our network" but we all know it's bulls--t; you can flash any ROM and you still receive phone calls, SMS, MMS, internet and still get 3G with no additional billing or problems with your phone.
All they really want is to lock you down so you can't unlock your phone (therefore taking your phone to other providers). You bought the phone from ROGERS, ROGERS wants everyone to know that you are with ROGERS.
Im pretty sure HTC are the ones who locked it when they made this firmware update. Rogers didnt make the update.
Wond3r said:
Im pretty sure HTC are the ones who locked it when they made this firmware update. Rogers didnt make the update.
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Not really, it was probably at Rogers request. If carriers are going to do stuff like that (which they are entitled to), then HTC or Google should make unbranded versions available for people who want the phone, but aren't on that network.
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Im pretty sure HTC are the ones who locked it when they made this firmware update. Rogers didnt make the update.
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ROGERS is the only one to have the 1.76.0010 SPL for a reason; paid for the SPL and branding on the ROM. They keep implimenting newer systems to try and block out non-ROGER ROMs. They want to lock it down, HTC didn't have to, they have no reason to.
You know what, come to think if it, ROGERS probably knows about the .29 kernal bypass for rooting and are reluctant to update to the newer kernal.
Food for thought!
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You know what, come to think if it, ROGERS probably knows about the .29 kernal bypass for rooting and are reluctant to update to the newer kernal.
Food for thought!
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What is this kernel bypass for rooting that you are talking about? Does it work on the new ROM with Sense?
eatmydave said:
What is this kernel bypass for rooting that you are talking about? Does it work on the new ROM with Sense?
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It only works with the 2.6.29 kernel and it's a slim chance of it happening -- It's basically just brute-forcing root access. Magic 32A has the 2.6.27 kernel and does not have this bug allowing root access.
If you want to know more, search the forums.
Hey I'm thinking about getting the htc dream but I'm wondering if you canroot the dream that has the update. Thanks
The only way to do this is with Jtag.
panesingh said:
Hey I'm thinking about getting the htc dream but I'm wondering if you canroot the dream that has the update. Thanks
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The short answer is yes.
The long answer is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5934885
And it also helps to read and understand ALL of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591048
I know that's a lot of information, but if you intend on getting one of these phones with the intention of rooting it, you need to know ALL of it.
*****HOWEVER*****
IF you do live in CANADA and that is the reason you are looking at a robbers dream, I would STRONGLY suggest that you AVOID the unit. An ADP1 or tmobile branded DREAM is a FAR better choice since it is ALSO compatible with the new WCDMA carriers (wind mobile, moblicity, and videotron) ***IN ADDITION TO*** being compatible with robbers. They are also MUCH easier to root, and in the case of ADP1, they shipped from factory with root access.
We are all waiting for the "miracle" come from the Unrevoked....Is it worth?.
If we are sure that the Unrevoked is really working on it, than It's worth to wait, but until now, nothing make sure that they are working on it, Unrevoked always avoids to discuss about wildfire.
They are geniuses, so if they really want to root it, I think they only need couple of weeks.But so far,froyo2.2 has been on wildfire for a long time.
If anyone has reliable information that they're still working on it, please share.
The wildfire don't bring them profit, so why should they have to waste their precious time on it??...just saying that everyone should not hope too much...It might disappoint you...
Finally, thank you for your attention. sorry for my poor English
i think they're working on it
What is your alternative?
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We are all waiting for the "miracle" come from the Unrevoked....Is it worth?.
If we are sure that the Unrevoked is really working on it, than It's worth to wait, but until now, nothing make sure that they are working on it, Unrevoked always avoids to discuss about wildfire.
They are geniuses, so if they really want to root it, I think they only need couple of weeks.But so far,froyo2.2 has been on wildfire for a long time.
If anyone has reliable information that they're still working on it, please share.
The wildfire don't bring them profit, so why should they have to waste their precious time on it??...just saying that everyone should not hope too much...It might disappoint you...
Finally, thank you for your attention. sorry for my poor English
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Frankly, I don't think it's worth it. I'd just sell my wildfire and buy a new phone.
3xeno said:
What is your alternative?
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He could use an xtc clip and get it S-off
T_T
U know that XTC Clip don't available in many countries, and its price is almost equal to a wildfire
mtnhan1996 said:
We are all waiting for the "miracle" come from the Unrevoked....Is it worth?.
If we are sure that the Unrevoked is really working on it, than It's worth to wait, but until now, nothing make sure that they are working on it, Unrevoked always avoids to discuss about wildfire.
They are geniuses, so if they really want to root it, I think they only need couple of weeks.But so far,froyo2.2 has been on wildfire for a long time.
If anyone has reliable information that they're still working on it, please share.
The wildfire don't bring them profit, so why should they have to waste their precious time on it??...just saying that everyone should not hope too much...It might disappoint you...
Finally, thank you for your attention. sorry for my poor English
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Their updates clearly tell us that they are willing to work on wildfire. But the problem actually seems like they dont have a wildfire and i heard that they are searching for it. They are the ones who got such a great reputation for rooting phones. I dont think that "they feel like wasting time working on wildfire".
No free alternative. Just we need to wait, wait and wait.
(correct me if im wrong)
It's bad luck that you have froyo on your wildfire, your options (as mentioned before) are:
1. Wait for a software able to root 2.2
2. Pay for someone to root via X-clip
3. Sell your wildfire and buy a handset with 2.1 or below. Can you even get a phone running 2.1 anymore?
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It's bad luck that you have froyo on your wildfire, your options (as mentioned before) are:
1. Wait for a software able to root 2.2
2. Pay for someone to root via X-clip
3. Sell your wildfire and buy a handset with 2.1 or below. Can you even get a phone running 2.1 anymore?
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no need to buy a newer device with 2.1 or below. Even if someone wants to, they can get among the sony ericson devices. One can go for a latest gingerbread root friendly device.
excluding wildfire and aria, many other froyo android devices and even gingerbread devices are rootable.
--another point to consider here, as all of us know is, root (perma) depends on hboot security and not on the version of operating system (to be specific, in nand locked devices)
bharatgaddameedi said:
no need to buy a newer device with 2.1 or below. Even if someone wants to, they can get among the sony ericson devices. One can go for a latest gingerbread root friendly device.
excluding wildfire and aria, many other froyo android devices and even gingerbread devices are rootable.
--another point to consider here, as all of us know is, root depends on hboot security and not on the version of operating system.
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Oh, so hboot is not dependant on the android version? So you can have a 0.81 hboot on gingerbread 2.3.3 for example? Strange that they would use an outdated hboot with the latest android builds but there you go.
They are working on it. I don't think that anybody should buy a new phone, because of the root thing.
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Their updates clearly tell us that they are willing to work on wildfire. But the problem actually seems like they dont have a wildfire and i heard that they are searching for it. They are the ones who got such a great reputation for rooting phones. I dont think that "they feel like wasting time working on wildfire".
No free alternative. Just we need to wait, wait and wait.
(correct me if im wrong)
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sorry because i what I said then. I don't know what I was thinking then. I didn't mean that . I just didn't know if they are really working on wildfire, or just other devices.( sorry if I'm wrong)
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Oh, so hboot is not dependant on the android version? So you can have a 0.81 hboot on gingerbread 2.3.3 for example? Strange that they would use an outdated hboot with the latest android builds but there you go.
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lol, im not talking about the hboot version. I said root depends on hboot security and not hboot version. And that security depends on the manufacturer. For a single device, higher the hboot version the more secure it is. But for different devices they are not at all related.
Let us see few things.
--htc aria --------hboot 1.02 not yet rooted.
--htc wildfire ----hboot 1.01 not yet rooted.
--htc legend------hboot 1.01 rooted.
--htc desire & incredible --hboot 0.93 rooted.
--htc evo 4g -----hboot 2.10 rooted.
--htc hero --- has no nand security. so custom recoveries and custom roms can be easily flashed.
Wildfire and Aria have more security on the hboot.
Actually im sorry. I should have specified this. The process of rooting varies widely between different android devices. [It (permaroot) depends on hboot security and not on the version of operating system in NAND locked devices. And shell root or temp root will not depend on hboot]
If two different devices are running the same android version, then both the hboot versions are not likely to be the same. Check for example, Google Nexus One (root friendly device) is running official gingerbread with hboot 0.35 .
It is not like official froyo on wildfire works only with hboot 1.01. I think if htc really wants to, we might have even had gingerbread on wildfire with hboot 0.80. And we are now running gingerbread custom roms on wildfire hboot 0.80
And that should not be called "outdated hboots" for the latest builds. They are called less secure or more secure hboots.
[someone correct me if im wrong]
To accord me unrevoked doesnt working on hboot of buzz froyo, so i used xtc clip to root it .
I bought the clip with a gda in italy.
Excusw for my english but i am italian.
And don't forget the other possiblity for S-off, the pay as you go XTC clip.
That device should come on the market for a more reasonable price for 1 time unlockers.
They are testing it in beta, so just have a bit patience and if all is succesfull, order one and your problems are gone.
I am not able to understand why?
Are mobile companies dont want to users their root android phones?
If yes why ?
Lara_Shadow said:
I am not able to understand why?
Are mobile companies dont want to users their root android phones?
If yes why ?
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Obviously they dont want to users do it. This is standard of all companies, even outside the Android universe. The two major reasons are to save their own headaches when users have various problems and issues owning to rooting / JB'ing their devices, and secondly, they want you to stick with the company provided featureset and not have new ones, so that, you will have to buy a new device if you want new features.
It's heartening to see a slight change in their (Some co's) approach though.
3xeno said:
so that, you will have to buy a new device if you want new features.
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Pure business.
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It's heartening to see a slight change in their (Some co's) approach though.
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Really appreciative.
Hi
Do you guys know whether there's a way to unlock the bootloader of this device (not the development version)? Or maybe there will be a way to unlock it? Is there any team that tries to customize this new device?
Thanks!
yairku said:
Hi
Do you guys know whether there's a way to unlock the bootloader of this device (not the development version)? Or maybe there will be a way to unlock it? Is there any team that tries to customize this new device?
Thanks!
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Not currently. possibly never.
-Sent from my TMOUS HTC One S.-
-Stock/rooted 2.21 + 1.06s baseband-
-Hboot 1.06-
Sad to hear that. Thanks.
yairku said:
Hi
Do you guys know whether there's a way to unlock the bootloader of this device (not the development version)? Or maybe there will be a way to unlock it? Is there any team that tries to customize this new device?
Thanks!
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Are you trying to get the subsidized version and then unlock it? hehe I couldn't think of another reason why to not get the Developer Edition with it being unlocked to start off with. :cyclops: Not a bad idea though but nice try...probably would go that route if the developer community could unlock it as well.
Are they the same price? Is one off I'd the contract
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Are they the same price? Is one off I'd the contract
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Yes, they are both the same price off contract. If you think you might ever want to unlock and root, you should get the Developer's Edition. It's still covered by warranty until you unlock it, so if you don't unlock, it's just like getting the regular one. However, you get the potential to unlock, and if you decide to sell a few months later, it will likely have a higher resale value (at least to those of us who want to unlock it, anyway).
Can you get the dev on verizon? Thankd
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Can you get the dev on verizon? Thankd
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Yes, but you have to order it from Motorola. Verizon stores don't sell it.
Really doesn't matter tho because 99% of people are going to buy it from Verizon with a locked in bootloader so you're not likely to see much dev for unlocked versions. So if almost everyone is using a workaround you'll have to use it even tho it's not needed. I hope it gets cracked tho
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Clienterror said:
Really doesn't matter tho because 99% of people are going to buy it from Verizon with a locked in bootloader so you're not likely to see much dev for unlocked versions. So if almost everyone is using a workaround you'll have to use it even tho it's not needed. I hope it gets cracked tho
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Plenty of devs are getting them. I know for sure dhacker29 will be getting one soon hehe.
Check out http://aosp.us/ they already have root, 2 custom recoveries, and source roms on the way
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Plenty of devs are getting them. I know for sure dhacker29 will be getting one soon hehe.
Check ou, they already have root, 2 custom recoveries, and source roms on the way
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Are you sure that they are the real root ? It looks suspicious.. :cyclops: ..
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Are you sure that they are the real root ? It looks suspicious.. :cyclops: ..
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...says the guy who seems to have been around for 2 mins. Do you know who Matt is? LOL...
I'm new to Moto devices, I do not know who Matt is although I think I've seen his name someplace? Lol. I doubt it'll ever happen but I hope that theyll crack the VZW version of the M. That'd be cool
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mattlgroff said:
Plenty of devs are getting them. I know for sure dhacker29 will be getting one soon hehe.
Check out http://aosp.us/ they already have root, 2 custom recoveries, and source roms on the way
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No no I didn't mean there won't be devs for this phone I ment that probably almost everyone will be buying it from Verizon IE locked bootloader so there probably won't be much if any dev for the unlocked version bought from Motorola. I know they'll be deving and work arounds I'm not THAT silly
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It's the other way around actually, the development for the locked bootloader version will be severely limited by the inability to root, whereas the development for the unlocked developer edition is proceeding quickly. The one significant hurdle for source compiled ROMs and kernels right now is the Prima WiFi driver, which does not compile properly and the proprietary source code was not released.
Unless and until a viable root exploit is achieved for the stock version there will be very little development for it.
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It's the other way around actually, the development for the locked bootloader version will be severely limited by the inability to root, whereas the development for the unlocked developer edition is proceeding quickly. The one significant hurdle for source compiled ROMs and kernels right now is the Prima WiFi driver, which does not compile properly and the proprietary source code was not released.
Unless and until a viable root exploit is achieved for the stock version there will be very little development for it.
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Dang that sucks when I had the original Atrix wr got lucky and got a leak to unlock it. I'm not sure if Google has locked it like moto but they have pretty brutal locks. Hope you guys get root soon then hopefully a BL unlocked I'd be interested in going to the M cause my s3 is a little big for my tastes and I've always loved the Razr line.
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root is easily achieved once the bootloader is unlocked. As CellZealot said, the main hangup and the piece I've been banging my head on for the past 5 days is how to get the Prima Wifi Driver to work. I have a vendor setup and if/when I can get the prima driver built I'll move on.
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root is easily achieved once the bootloader is unlocked. As CellZealot said, the main hangup and the piece I've been banging my head on for the past 5 days is how to get the Prima Wifi Driver to work. I have a vendor setup and if/when I can get the prima driver built I'll move on.
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Threadjack for a minute, but do you or your team have any idea of trying to get the M working on AT&T or T-Mobile? I'm assuming it won't work on the regular M unless we somehow get root or a bootloader unlock, but maybe it could be done on the Developer Edition?
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Threadjack for a minute, but do you or your team have any idea of trying to get the M working on AT&T or T-Mobile? I'm assuming it won't work on the regular M unless we somehow get root or a bootloader unlock, but maybe it could be done on the Developer Edition?
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The radios are there to work on US GSM but as of right now they are not able to find a US GSM signal. We are looking in to getting that rectified as well.
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The radios are there to work on US GSM but as of right now they are not able to find a US GSM signal. We are looking in to getting that rectified as well.
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Awesome. It would probably be a lot cheaper for me to get an M from the US than trying to import one from Australia or the i from the UK, so if you guys can get it working on US GSM networks, that will be great.
After the amount of effort put into the Tegra HTC One X to achieve S-OFF, it's great to see S-OFF for HTC One, however am I the only one who thinks that releasing two separate S-OFF methods which, I presume, use different exploits is an overkill?
The way I see it is HTC will update the firmware/bootloader soon enough, patching both exploits as they're both public. This means extra work needed to achieve S-OFF on newer firmwares.
It's a shame that the both teams didn't collaborate and keep one exploit as a backup for when first one gets patched to keep the S-OFF goodness lasting longer.
how do we even know it is two exploits discovered?
No one has specifically explained how either method works.
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lmao, this is quality trolling
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Lol. On a serious note what is wrong with two exploits? Just be happy that we have them and keep it moving ( to OP)
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One is firmware dependant (Moonshine) whilst Revone is to work regardless of firnware version.
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Lol. On a serious note what is wrong with two exploits? Just be happy that we have them and keep it moving ( to OP)
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Simple, newer phones will be shipped with newer firmware with patched exploits. With both of them public, it means HTC can patch both and we're back into the cat and mouse game of exploit searching. There is no point in releasing two, potentially different, exploits which achieve the same thing.
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Simple, newer phones will be shipped with newer firmware with patched exploits. With both of them public, it means HTC can patch both and we're back into the cat and mouse game of exploit searching. There is no point in releasing two, potentially different, exploits which achieve the same thing.
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Ok so now that both have been released what do you want to do about it?
I'm sure HTC wanted us to find a s-off method and that they don't care
Remember htc is not apple
drakeymcmb said:
I'm sure HTC wanted us to find a s-off method and that they don't care
Remember htc is not apple
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I think they wouldn't even care specially now that they provide developer and Google editions. That gives flexibility on the consumer side.
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Why not have two methods, doesn't hurt anything.
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I'm sure HTC wanted us to find a s-off method and that they don't care
Remember htc is not apple
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True. They're becoming more developer friendly. That doesn't mean they WANT you to do it, but I highly doubt they will patch it. And it doesn't even matter if you're on a custom rom.
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I'm sure HTC wanted us to find a s-off method and that they don't care
Remember htc is not apple
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+1 on htc is not apple
only way HTC care's is if the carriers ***** about it.
clsA said:
+1 on htc is not apple
only way HTC care's is if the carriers ***** about it.
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Definitely this. HTC can't afford to lose carriers at this point.
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lollylost100 said:
After the amount of effort put into the Tegra HTC One X to achieve S-OFF, it's great to see S-OFF for HTC One, however am I the only one who thinks that releasing two separate S-OFF methods which, I presume, use different exploits is an overkill?
The way I see it is HTC will update the firmware/bootloader soon enough, patching both exploits as they're both public. This means extra work needed to achieve S-OFF on newer firmwares.
It's a shame that the both teams didn't collaborate and keep one exploit as a backup for when first one gets patched to keep the S-OFF goodness lasting longer.
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I have to disagree with you about the two ways. Until we have 1 way that works for both Windows and Linux then we need to ways. Right now one of the ways works on the phone itself or using CMD on a PC or Linux. The other way only works on Linux, I do not know how to use Linux nor do I really want to learn how. So I am forced to use Windows for everything. So like I said once we have a One way that works for everyone we need different ways to do it.
S-OFF in a Linux Live CD has been done before. Minimum learning curve required.
PS. HTC has plenty of reasons to patch S-OFF exploits:
1. It allows the device to return to Locked state, instead of Re-Locked
2. Has the ability to cause bricks
3. Allows for free SIM unlocks
4. Allows to bypass CID restrictions (branded FW)
5. Allows to change serial number/IMEI if you look hard enough
S-OFF is great for us, but for HTC it's just extra costs.
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I don't really see why anyone want any OTA or RUU to flash, the entire purpose of being rooted s-off and everything about this is....
TO USE A ROOTED STOCK ROM....... OR DEODEX ROM....
I think that says everything.... I chose the revone,,, because why in the world did moonshine wait to release it, I will not say my personal opinion what I think about that...
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I don't really see why anyone want any OTA or RUU to flash, the entire purpose of being rooted s-off and everything about this is....
TO USE A ROOTED STOCK ROM....... OR DEODEX ROM....
I think that says everything.... I chose the revone,,, because why in the world did moonshine wait to release it, I will not say my personal opinion what I think about that...
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There isnt a custom rom out there for the ONE that requires s-off..If custom rom is what YOU WANT then you only need root. However custom roms do not include all firmware from new ruus or OTA's. Being s-off allows you to get these upgrades without waiting on your device specific ruu. I dont think the majority wants it so they can stay stock to get OTA's. Its so they have a choice and can upgrade when they want to. :victory:
Please say your personal opinion about moonshine, your other comments are your personal opinion, why stop now? And what would moonshine have to gain by waiting to release? I'm sure they were perfecting the code..making things as easy as possible for me and YOU. originally Thumb drives weren't supported yet now they are. The thumb drive didnt write its own code to make that happen.. Do you think cracking HTCs security and writing a user friendly app that has little to no chance to harm your device is fast and easy? If so please show us how its done. IMO If you cant do it yourself, and you are not paying for it, it shouldn't matter how long it took to release.
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There isnt a custom rom out there for the ONE that requires s-off..If custom rom is what YOU WANT then you only need root. However custom roms do not include all firmware from new ruus or OTA's. Being s-off allows you to get these upgrades without waiting on your device specific ruu. I dont think the majority wants it so they can stay stock to get OTA's. Its so they have a choice and can upgrade when they want to. :victory:
Please say your personal opinion about moonshine, your other comments are your personal opinion, why stop now? And what would moonshine have to gain by waiting to release? I'm sure they were perfecting the code..making things as easy as possible for me and YOU. originally Thumb drives weren't supported yet now they are. The thumb drive didnt write its own code to make that happen.. Do you think cracking HTCs security and writing a user friendly app that has little to no chance to harm your device is fast and easy? If so please show us how its done. IMO If you cant do it yourself, and you are not paying for it, it shouldn't matter how long it took to release.
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If you noticed, I did not say anything negative, I didn't say my opionion. I did not thrash or flame moonshine. that is why I said I will keep my personal opionion to myself, I respect the developers, I don't develop or know the 1st thing about that.
so that being said, says all...
I say for people being rooted, get a stock rom, or firmwares and the developers release everything we need.
when someone installs ruu or otas. there hboots are changed, and then at one point or another u possibly wont be able to downgrade or something, that is why I say to stay away from RUU's... that is the only thing.
SO PLEASE, UNDERSTAND. I TOTALLY RESPECT MOONSHINE...:good: :silly:
For people with S-OFF, it won't matter if HBOOT is upgraded as long as the Radio flag is changed, then S-OFF will be permanent. Great for you!
But HTC will release updates with new HBOOTs and those will be shipped with newer devices. If they patch up the exploits, and I don't see why they won't, we'll be back to square one. Obviously it doesn't matter right now, but in the future I'm sure it will be an issue.
PS. There's even a new HBOOT on the 4.2.2 firmware and devices will soon start shipping with it.
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Deleted about half the posts for trolling or Off-Topic.
All that could have been usefully said about that topic is said obviously as the discussion drifted to the advantages of Linux....