i just recently got a htc magic with the e911 update just wondering is this is rootable ?
I'm just wondering, have you searched?
Answer is No.
Ok so I got my shiney new HTC Magic from rogers, for f*cking free thanks to that deal that enabled dream owners to get the magic for free. I harassed for a month an a half. But I am loving it, I'm using it as my main phone. But I can't find anything on rooting the new update for the damn thing. Is there even a name for this update. I'm glad I signed that waiver for dream owners. Cuz if I did it for the dream, I would have a useless peice of ****. So as the first guy asked, where is the root?
I have search and i am unable to find a straight answer.
epicdean said:
I have search and i am unable to find a straight answer.
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Straight answer: No.
If the update becomes rootable, it would be clear.
but I red that there was a work around like we have to make sure we have the same radio as the new update so like that rogers won't know we are rooted users and dont get the data cut off is that true or it's just bogus?
WWW.rogers.com/htcwaiver
don't want to upgrade?
Sign it!
fdesrosi said:
but I red that there was a work around like we have to make sure we have the same radio as the new update so like that rogers won't know we are rooted users and dont get the data cut off is that true or it's just bogus?
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You need a rooted phone to get the work around. If you update to the newest update then there is no point in trying this loophole since you have the newest SPL and radio that they want you to have.
The newest update is not rooted.
If you have a Rogers Magic with the new update and ARE NOT using it in Canada on Rogers (ex: in US on ATT), can you change the ROM to a rooted ROM or am I just SOL on Wifi Tether?
eatmydave said:
If you have a Rogers Magic with the new update and ARE NOT using it in Canada on Rogers (ex: in US on ATT), can you change the ROM to a rooted ROM or am I just SOL on Wifi Tether?
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That doesn't make much sense -- if the newest updated ROM (1.76.0010 for ROGERS) is not rooted, what makes you think you can change the ROM if your not in Canada? It's still the same unrooted SPL.
If you try using WiFi tethering, you are going to get billed up the ying yang with charges with roaming and tethering charges if you don't have a tethering package.
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That doesn't make much sense -- if the newest updated ROM (1.76.0010 for ROGERS) is not rooted, what makes you think you can change the ROM if your not in Canada? It's still the same unrooted SPL.
If you try using WiFi tethering, you are going to get billed up the ying yang with charges with roaming and tethering charges if you don't have a tethering package.
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That is what I was asking, just didn't phrase it right. I've switched to 32A Magic from a MT3G to have 3G bands for AT&T. So far not impressed with this Rogers ROM, almost makes me want to deal with EDGE again just so I can use a ROM that I like. Thanks for your answer.
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That is what I was asking, just didn't phrase it right. I've switched to 32A Magic from a MT3G to have 3G bands for AT&T. So far not impressed with this Rogers ROM, almost makes me want to deal with EDGE again just so I can use a ROM that I like. Thanks for your answer.
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No problem. Just make sure you watch out for the tethering, heard some bad stories with ROGERS + tethering.
There are so many topics about this now.. you'd think Rogers would do something about it.
What could Rogers possibly benifit from "locking" this phone like this. Kinda takes away from the 'open-sourceness' of the device.
stillriza said:
There are so many topics about this now.. you'd think Rogers would do something about it.
What could Rogers possibly benifit from "locking" this phone like this. Kinda takes away from the 'open-sourceness' of the device.
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ROGERS just wants you to have their ROM with their applications. That is really all it's about. ROGERS says "we have to test out updates to see if they work with our network" but we all know it's bulls--t; you can flash any ROM and you still receive phone calls, SMS, MMS, internet and still get 3G with no additional billing or problems with your phone.
All they really want is to lock you down so you can't unlock your phone (therefore taking your phone to other providers). You bought the phone from ROGERS, ROGERS wants everyone to know that you are with ROGERS.
Im pretty sure HTC are the ones who locked it when they made this firmware update. Rogers didnt make the update.
Wond3r said:
Im pretty sure HTC are the ones who locked it when they made this firmware update. Rogers didnt make the update.
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Not really, it was probably at Rogers request. If carriers are going to do stuff like that (which they are entitled to), then HTC or Google should make unbranded versions available for people who want the phone, but aren't on that network.
Wond3r said:
Im pretty sure HTC are the ones who locked it when they made this firmware update. Rogers didnt make the update.
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ROGERS is the only one to have the 1.76.0010 SPL for a reason; paid for the SPL and branding on the ROM. They keep implimenting newer systems to try and block out non-ROGER ROMs. They want to lock it down, HTC didn't have to, they have no reason to.
You know what, come to think if it, ROGERS probably knows about the .29 kernal bypass for rooting and are reluctant to update to the newer kernal.
Food for thought!
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You know what, come to think if it, ROGERS probably knows about the .29 kernal bypass for rooting and are reluctant to update to the newer kernal.
Food for thought!
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What is this kernel bypass for rooting that you are talking about? Does it work on the new ROM with Sense?
eatmydave said:
What is this kernel bypass for rooting that you are talking about? Does it work on the new ROM with Sense?
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It only works with the 2.6.29 kernel and it's a slim chance of it happening -- It's basically just brute-forcing root access. Magic 32A has the 2.6.27 kernel and does not have this bug allowing root access.
If you want to know more, search the forums.
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Hi, i am planing to buy the htc magic this weekend with vodafone australia.
I heard the the sense ui (hero rom) will be an update for the device in the neer future.
but i also heard that it will only be coming to specific magic devices...something about weather it has google written on it or something.
I was wondering weather anyone has any idea on weather the htc magic with Vodafone Australia will be getting this update.
If this is not possible i know i am able to root my device and get the sense UI. But will it work just as good as on the hero? As it only has 192mb ram and 288 on hero.
also, if i am going to have to root the device. Does anyone have the stock rom for the australian vodafone magic?
I am warried that i will not be able to find the right rom as vodafone australia has made their own little teaks to the rom, and if its any different it will void my warrenty. :S
P.S If there is any reason why i should not buy this phone, PLEESE TELL ME.
P.P.S I know theres no bluetooth for file sharing yet but i also heard theres an app called bluexx or somthing. I heard for some countries this app doesnt work... has anyone in australia got bluetooth to work?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE! AND SORRY FOR LONG POST.
OMG...i just found out that if u buy the phone with three then it hasn't got the with google written on the back....and on the three version it has 288mb ram instead of the 192mb with vodafone.
So if you buy the phone with three you get updates??
and if you buy it with vodafone you don't?
that's a scam...
It's a shame because vodafone is offering a much better deal, i guess this is why.
i'll still probly end up rooting it. so all other questions still need answering badly.
PLEASE HELP
AND THANKS
TouchPro1108 said:
OMG...i just found out that if u buy the phone with three then it hasn't got the with google written on the back....and on the three version it has 288mb ram instead of the 192mb with vodafone.
So if you buy the phone with three you get updates??
and if you buy it with vodafone you don't?
that's a scam...
It's a shame because vodafone is offering a much better deal, i guess this is why.
i'll still probly end up rooting it. so all other questions still need answering badly.
PLEASE HELP
AND THANKS
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i have a 3 aust. magic, rooted the day i got it. nandroided original rom in case of warranty.
bluex works great-used it the other day.
as for updates no one really knows....too bad for me now that i am rooted- ithink modded roms are ahead of the google/htc android curve in many aspects anyway....
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i have a 3 aust. magic, rooted the day i got it. nandroided original rom in case of warranty.
bluex works great-used it the other day.
as for updates no one really knows....too bad for me now that i am rooted- ithink modded roms are ahead of the google/htc android curve in many aspects anyway....
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ahhh thank you very much!
just what i wanted
I am starting to lean towards the hero though :S
The only differences between the two are,
multitouch,
Teflon coating,
5mp camera,
flash player 10
umm
I think that multitouch on the magic actually works
and I'm pretty sure you can get flash player for magic aswell?
could anyone confirm that these are the only differences?
and if the other 2 can be added on magic?
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multitouch,
Teflon coating,
5mp camera,
flash player 10
umm
I think that multitouch on the magic actually works
and I'm pretty sure you can get flash player for magic aswell?
could anyone confirm that these are the only differences?
and if the other 2 can be added on magic?
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flash is available on hero rom.
multi-touch is avail on hero rom
I can see your issue but here is the main thing- here in australia, the magic is here and now- here- no wrranty issues (if buying OS), the Hero wont be here for another month or 2 and oyu know that release dates often get pushed back, by the time it is released there will be an even faster/prettier phone being released 2months after......
I love my magic- wasnt sure i would, just wanted the 3 half price data plan...was gonna sell on ebay and keep my g1.....now for limestar's super android phone (see whirlpool forums) coming at the end of the year....the magic will do me until then.....
MontAlbert said:
flash is available on hero rom.
multi-touch is avail on hero rom
I can see your issue but here is the main thing- here in australia, the magic is here and now- here- no wrranty issues (if buying OS), the Hero wont be here for another month or 2 and oyu know that release dates often get pushed back, by the time it is released there will be an even faster/prettier phone being released 2months after......
I love my magic- wasnt sure i would, just wanted the 3 half price data plan...was gonna sell on ebay and keep my g1.....now for limestar's super android phone (see whirlpool forums) coming at the end of the year....the magic will do me until then.....
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ok thanks, i'll be getting my new phone very soon hopefully
Has any1 found a turn by turn voice navigation (gps) software for a android phone? if so can someone please link me?
P.S. please don't refer me to something that uses data useage... i understand the software may cost, but i don't want to be paying for internet usage.
THANKS
For turn by turn get copilot. Not free but way less than standalone GPS, and best of all you download the maps to SD so they're always there and NO data usage
dazcox5181 said:
For turn by turn get copilot. Not free but way less than standalone GPS, and best of all you download the maps to SD so they're always there and NO data usage
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THANK YOU!!
with copilot... how did u get Australian maps for android?
It seems there's only Australian maps with winmo.
THANKS
Whoops. Sorry didn't see you're in Oz - CoPilot site lists it as coming soon, I'm UK where maps already out.
Don't think there is any other Turn By Turn app on the market at the moment
You in Melbourne? If so let me know and I'll take you through the ADP1 and ION phones to show you what the difference in memory means in terms of performance.
TommyPickles said:
You in Melbourne? If so let me know and I'll take you through the ADP1 and ION phones to show you what the difference in memory means in terms of performance.
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Nope I'm in Brisbane sorry.
why does it matter were I'm from?
i have just rooted my HTC magic with google on vodafone and works a dream with hero rom, such a ui difference so much more exciting plus integrated flash and multitouch puts the iphone to shame with its looks
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i have just rooted my HTC magic with google on vodafone and works a dream with hero rom, such a ui difference so much more exciting plus integrated flash and multitouch puts the iphone to shame with its looks
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okay thanks
i guess if the ram doesn't make much difference to the hero rom speed,
ill get the vodafone 1
its 59 a month and 500mb data and $350 credit.
its 58 a month on three with only 150 credit haha.
ohhh, and with copilot, i heard that it's going to be getting australian maps next month or so.
seems as it has a picture of hero with copilot, im guessing it will come out when hero does?? anyone with more information on that pleese tell. ^.^
I have the vadaphone $59 plan and it great.
Small issue though that after 2 days of excitement and grabing as much as I can from the market, mid stream using the internet explorer someone rang and the unit haulted. After a reset I had the android boot loop which forced me to change the rom.
I went and uploaded the Fatality Hero, its great but slowish at times, internet seems slower and 3g not working.
Is there an aussie rom that has the hero roms that work with our 3g.
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joko1 said:
I have the vadaphone $59 plan and it great.
Small issue though that after 2 days of excitement and grabing as much as I can from the market, mid stream using the internet explorer someone rang and the unit haulted. After a reset I had the android boot loop which forced me to change the rom.
I went and uploaded the Fatality Hero, its great but slowish at times, internet seems slower and 3g not working.
Is there an aussie rom that has the hero roms that work with our 3g.
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This is probably something you've already tried but if 3g is not working make sure your APN settings are filled out correctly as it may not have auto-detected. Had this issue with dad's Magic (he bought one outright the day he saw mine delivered from 3).
Beautiful device. Though I hope we'll still get Android 2.0 when it hits because from what I hear most of the Android devices next year will be on Snapdragon (1 ghz chip) which will probably **** on the magic hardware wise. Still a while away yet.
MontAlbert said:
i have a 3 aust. magic, rooted the day i got it. nandroided original rom in case of warranty.
bluex works great-used it the other day.
as for updates no one really knows....too bad for me now that i am rooted- ithink modded roms are ahead of the google/htc android curve in many aspects anyway....
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Hi, do you still have your Nandroid backup of the 32A or the original Three rom. When I rooted my phone and flashed the ROM I was still too much of a noob to know exactly what to do with Nandroid, so I lost my factory setup. Is there any chance you could post an image?
help me with my HTC magic
i paid the code from allgsm adn just got the code, i found the following but when i put in different sim card. nothing happen. did not show enter network/unlock code. just a cross at the signal logo. how to enter code ??
HTC, SPV, MDA, XDA, iMATE and T-Mobile G1
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How to enter my Unlock Code on HTC, SPV, MDA, XDA, iMATE and T-Mobile G1 ? Model : All (including G1)
1 - Switch ON mobile with a not Allowed SIM Card,
2 - If phone ask, enter the PIN code of your SIM Card
3 - Now phone will ask you to enter the unlocking code !
Ok guys as title suggests I am litterally done with this phone now and am ready to throw it out of a window! The only thing stopping me is because it is so new and the fact that I absolutely love it apart from not being able to get official 1.5 update on to it.
I have tried everything!
All I want is the 1.5 (not modded/rooted) firmware with widgets etc. I have tried downgrading but that doesn't work, I have tried upgrading but that doesn't work and over the air hasn't come over the past 3 days it has been turned on (although I suspect this is due to being on Orange although I did buy a T-Mobile sim and it didn't update in a day with that inside either).
If you can help I WILL PAY!!!
My phones information:
Firmware: 1.1
Baseband: 62.33.20.08U_1.22.12.29
Kernel: 2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0 [email protected] #6
Build: 123099
mbmapit44 said:
Ok guys as title suggests I am litterally done with this phone now and am ready to throw it out of a window! The only thing stopping me is because it is so new and the fact that I absolutely love it apart from not being able to get official 1.5 update on to it.
I have tried everything!
All I want is the 1.5 (not modded/rooted) firmware with widgets etc. I have tried downgrading but that doesn't work, I have tried upgrading but that doesn't work and over the air hasn't come over the past 3 days it has been turned on (although I suspect this is due to being on Orange although I did buy a T-Mobile sim and it didn't update in a day with that inside either).
If you can help I WILL PAY!!!
My phones information:
Firmware: 1.1
Baseband: 62.33.20.08U_1.22.12.29
Kernel: 2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0 [email protected] #6
Build: 123099
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Seriously man.. I have to be honest. If you can read directions and follow them, there should be nothing that you cant do on the g1 yourslef. There are numerous threads that give you Dummie proof step by step instructions.
So is your phone stock firmware?? Because if that is the case then you should recieve an OTA update for cupcake.
What exactly is the problem you're running into? The whole process may seem overwhelming at first, but it's really cut and dry. it is as simple as replaceing files on the sd card, updating a couple times and running some verbatim commands. You shouldnt be having that many problems.
mrmikemcguire said:
Seriously man.. I have to be honest. If you can read directions and follow them, there should be nothing that you cant do on the g1 yourslef. There are numerous threads that give you Dummie proof step by step instructions.
So is your phone stock firmware?? Because if that is the case then you should recieve an OTA update for cupcake.
What exactly is the problem you're running into? The whole process may seem overwhelming at first, but it's really cut and dry. it is as simple as replaceing files on the sd card, updating a couple times and running some verbatim commands. You shouldnt be having that many problems.
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Seriously buddy I have been building PC's since I was 13 and have been modding/flashing and programming my HTC Hermes for the past 2 years and yet this is impossible! It would appear I was unlucky enough to get the one firmware/build that is almost impossible to flash (look it up if you don't believe me, google for "123099" and choose the xda link).
Yes it is the stock rom that came with the phone but I haven't had an update in 3 days??? Is this because I am using an Orange sim card? I have purchased a T-Mobile sim should I put this in and leave it for x amount of days hoping?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3361823
You either get it OTA, or you root it. Unless you can find the official update.zip.
Once you root it, flash a European JF build, which is as close to the stock build as you're going to get.
coolbho3000 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3361823
You either get it OTA, or you root it. Unless you can find the official update.zip.
Once you root it, flash a European JF build, which is as close to the stock build as you're going to get.
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I want it to be legit so no option to root (yet). How long am I supposed to wait for OTA updates? I thought 3 days would be sufficient?
mbmapit44 said:
Seriously buddy I have been building PC's since I was 13 and have been modding/flashing and programming my HTC Hermes for the past 2 years and yet this is impossible! It would appear I was unlucky enough to get the one firmware/build that is almost impossible to flash (look it up if you don't believe me, google for "123099" and choose the xda link).
Yes it is the stock rom that came with the phone but I haven't had an update in 3 days??? Is this because I am using an Orange sim card? I have purchased a T-Mobile sim should I put this in and leave it for x amount of days hoping?
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I apologize if you feel that i questioned your ability. It is just very often people are quick to "ask how to do this/that" I did a small search on the build number and it does appear there are people discussing the issue.
I was just trying to provide words of encouragment if it was something that just "seemed" overwhelming.. but it seems you have a background.. Best of luck man
You won't get the ota update unless you're on the original tmobile sim the phone was shipped with.. otherwise how would tmobile know to push it to you? Orange certainly aren't going to do it. This has precisely bugger all to do with your build number and everything to do with using a different sim. If you want to pay me for this information, ill happily receive it.
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I want it to be legit so no option to root (yet). How long am I supposed to wait for OTA updates? I thought 3 days would be sufficient?
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There's basically no disadvantage to rooting, but try to get hold of the proper SIM to OTA then, or find someone who has that update.zip...
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You won't get the ota update unless you're on the original tmobile sim the phone was shipped with.. otherwise how would tmobile know to push it to you? Orange certainly aren't going to do it. This has precisely bugger all to do with your build number and everything to do with using a different sim. If you want to pay me for this information, ill happily receive it.
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I am sorry, but this is completely wrong. You don't need the original sim. You can even receive updates via wlan or on other networks. Anyway , I would suggest to root. It's nothing criminal.
I sent you a pm on how to do it, read the one that says "this explains better on how to install the 1.5 update" or something like that
Hope it helps!
mbmapit44 said:
Seriously buddy I have been building PC's since I was 13 and have been modding/flashing and programming my HTC Hermes for the past 2 years and yet this is impossible! It would appear I was unlucky enough to get the one firmware/build that is almost impossible to flash (look it up if you don't believe me, google for "123099" and choose the xda link).
Yes it is the stock rom that came with the phone but I haven't had an update in 3 days??? Is this because I am using an Orange sim card? I have purchased a T-Mobile sim should I put this in and leave it for x amount of days hoping?
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well idk if it would help but i have the official cupcake update stored on my mem card just incase i may need to load up the stock rom for insurance purposes. =) i forced updated my phone around the end of may so i wouldnt have to wait for the ota. the thing is... i live in USA so idk if the official cupcake rom i have will help u since u live in europe. PM me if you want me to upload the file.
EDIT: btw i am running 2.7.3 jachero
I'm assuming you have, but I will ask anyway. Have you tried this way?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485364
goldenarmZ said:
You won't get the ota update unless you're on the original tmobile sim the phone was shipped with.. otherwise how would tmobile know to push it to you? Orange certainly aren't going to do it. This has precisely bugger all to do with your build number and everything to do with using a different sim. If you want to pay me for this information, ill happily receive it.
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sputnik99 said:
I am sorry, but this is completely wrong. You don't need the original sim. You can even receive updates via wlan or on other networks. Anyway , I would suggest to root. It's nothing criminal.
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I can confirm this as I have been using my sim since my nokia 6600 when T-mobile used to sell good Nokia phone here in the US.
sputnik99 said:
I am sorry, but this is completely wrong. You don't need the original sim. You can even receive updates via wlan or on other networks. Anyway , I would suggest to root. It's nothing criminal.
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Yea I dont quite know what I was on about there.. I was tired and irritable when I posted that and I can't remember what I meant.. There may have been some basis of a point in there about using payg sims and the always-on internet on the g1.. I was assuming it wouldnt work properly.
In the cold light of day, I don't know what I was ranting about. Let's put it down to me being an idiot.
On a more constructive note.. A goldcard should be able to downgrade any g1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485364
Hey guys, I was wondering about the CDMA version of the Hero. I've been reading through all of the mod forums and development postings, etc etc, but none of them are in regards to the CDMA version. I am assuming that flashing the CDMA version with an official GSM ROM will brick the phone, so what do you do? I also understand that the CDMA version won't be officially released until October 11th, but what if someone has an early release of it and wants to mod it?
I would really appreciate any feedback or advice.
Thanks!!!
There are very few Sprint Heros around for review purposes and whatnot, and maybe some dev phones but who knows. There is no CDMA ROM yet for it. It's up to the people who have the phones in their hands to extract the ROM and tweak it for root use.
I knew that since this was the first US CDMA Android phone that it would be a little while until anyone was able to extract the Roms, But from all of the videos I have seen of the new Sprint Hero they all say version 1.5 I thought that CDMA would not be supported until build 1.6, I'd like to know if Donut will be on this version of Hero when it's released
amirica said:
I am assuming that flashing the CDMA version with an official GSM ROM will brick the phone, so what do you do?
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Not necessarily! The main difference should be the radio, which can be flashed separately. However, if I were a Sprint Hero user, I can guarantee I wouldn't be the first to try it!
I'm still expecting the Sprint Hero to ship with Donut onboard, which means it will be the latest and greatest, so what will be more interesting is how the Sprint Hero ROM works on the GSM Hero!
Regards,
Dave
I forgot to mention this in my previous post but in the Videos I have seen online some of the Hero's back cover say Google and some do not, I know in all of the current videos that it does have the Sense UI but is there a difference between the Google Branded and non-Branded Hero?
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I forgot to mention this in my previous post but in the Videos I have seen online some of the Hero's back cover say Google and some do not, I know in all of the current videos that it does have the Sense UI but is there a difference between the Google Branded and non-Branded Hero?
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I think Google decided since they were using the Sense UI (and perhaps adding their own apps over Googles) they couldn't put the "with Google" logo on the back.
foxmeister said:
I'm still expecting the Sprint Hero to ship with Donut onboard, which means it will be the latest and greatest, so what will be more interesting is how the Sprint Hero ROM works on the GSM Hero!
Regards,
Dave
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It does NOT come loaded with Donut. It doesn't even have the new HTC update. At least, mine doesn't.
Yours is a pre-release version though. It still has 10 days before release and donut has been released in an OTA update.
On another note, has anyone with a Sprint Hero had any problems with the album being slow (not creating thumbnails) after swapping out the microsd?
Like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558168
ajones7279 said:
Yours is a pre-release version though. It still has 10 days before release and donut has been released in an OTA update.
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Donut is being released via an OTA update for the G1 and the MyTouch. There's nothing so far about any other Android phones getting an OTA update. Of course, if you just mean that Donut is in the wild, so the "release" Sprint Hero may have Donut preinstalled, I concur!
Regards,
Dave
Yea that's what I was getting at lol.
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Yea that's what I was getting at lol.
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I hope so. I haven't had the album issue, but I have experienced an issue with Exchange contacts and their relation to Facebook. So first off, it is very annoying to have to go and re-associate FB contacts with those that are already in my phone. But second, once I do that, my Exchange server cannot sync contacts anymore. It errors out every time. Now, I don't know if that is something on the Exchange end, or on the phone end.
On a completely separate note, my phone didn't come with Pandora pre-installed, although I believe the release versions will. What's interesting is that when I do a search for it in the Android market, it can't find anything, even though it's available. I even tested it on a myTouch, and it came up right away. Interesting....
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I hope so. I haven't had the album issue, but I have experienced an issue with Exchange contacts and their relation to Facebook. So first off, it is very annoying to have to go and re-associate FB contacts with those that are already in my phone. But second, once I do that, my Exchange server cannot sync contacts anymore. It errors out every time. Now, I don't know if that is something on the Exchange end, or on the phone end.
On a completely separate note, my phone didn't come with Pandora pre-installed, although I believe the release versions will. What's interesting is that when I do a search for it in the Android market, it can't find anything, even though it's available. I even tested it on a myTouch, and it came up right away. Interesting....
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Here is your answer on why Pandora is not working. It will soon...
http://jkontherun.com/2009/09/30/up...-market-cant-be-seen-on-unofficial-os-builds/
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It does NOT come loaded with Donut. It doesn't even have the new HTC update. At least, mine doesn't.
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sprint hero does have a firmware update option in the "about phone". is htc update different?
Does anyone know if the sprint htc hero plays youtube in high quality over EVDO..? or will we need a root to puch the file to trick it into being WIFI?
Also, I notice dthat the sprint hero white flip clock does not flip like the GSM version. That kinda sucks! Taking the 3d out of tf3d..
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Also, I notice dthat the sprint hero white flip clock does not flip like the GSM version. That kinda sucks! Taking the 3d out of tf3d..
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The Flip clock was removed for everyone with the Firmware update, it sucks, but the clock before was laggy and awful, so it really is an improvement.
Just got my Sprint Hero
I can confirm that the Sprint HTC Hero does come with the 1.5 firmware and doing the update via system updates says that I have the newest firmware, so it may be a matter of HTC sending the update through sprint first to do OTA updates...
Does anyone know if there is a way to root the phone as of right now? I've been looking around a bunch but it just looks like the Euro versions are the ones people have successfully rooted. I just wanna root my phone before I put too much stuff on it and have to start over again anyway. Thanks!!
Anyone notice that the sprint htc hero gets hot as hell under normal/moderate use? What the hell is up with sprint phones and the overeating ****?! Also, battery is NOT as good as the GSM version but we already knew that was gonna happen! Damn CDMA!
I've been using mine all day and it hasn't gotten hot. And to who asked, it does play YouTube high quality over 3g.
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I've been using mine all day and it hasn't gotten hot. And to who asked, it does play YouTube high quality over 3g.
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My Sprint Diamond runs much hotter than my Sprint Hero. I've got them side-by-side here right now.
Now... time to start hacking this thing...
Maybe I got a BUM unit then. or maybe a burn in period..? Who the hell knows. All I know is its gets hotter than your average phone would get. Has anyone noticed any type of heat increase over use?
Hi guys
Hoping someone would be kind enough to take the time out to answer some questions I have regarding my HD2 on T-Mobile UK and how I go about modifying it etc
Please bare with me....this is the first smartphone ive ever had and am totally new to all of this! :S
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
Would really appreciate any help/advice anyone is willing to give.....the site seems very oriented to people who know what they're doing lol and im struggling to find a section for novice users like myself! I really like that idea of having a phone I can customise whenever I like.....just not sure at all of how to start going about it......
Cheers!!!
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
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The fact that it's locked to T-Mobile doesn't affect the majority of software on here. Sometimes, there'll be discrepancies between what's expected on your phone, and what's actually on your phone. This will be rare, and usually resolved on here anyway.
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
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Yes - Manila is the Sense UI.
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
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Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
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You don't need to "jailbreak" windows mobile. Question 3 covers this really.
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
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Having a T-Mobile phone won't stop you changing that at all. Just get used to these forums and searching them and you'll find most things you need. There's certainly taskbars on here. You're better off looking in either the root Leo forum (one step above this forum), or the themes and apps one. Also, the Sense UI has a lot of mods in other forums. The Blackstone, for example, had the Sense UI available in a ROM way before the HD2 was released, so that's also a good source of information.
Just keep reading and you'll be fine. We were all new here once
Have fun!
Thanks very much!! appreciate it!
however, u say here:
Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
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just wondering why I wouldnt want to apply ROM updates and windows updates? would it not be better to do this than wait for official updates from T-Mobile that will prob take forever to emerge?
I've seen on some forums that there is already an official (yet not appearing on the HTC site) HD2 ROM upgrade....but are you saying you advise against this? Or are u saying I dont want to change the core of the phone....but applying updates etc is still possible?
Sorry, excuse my ignorance!
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I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
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ah ok sorry...i must have misred your original reply! apologies
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
Many thanks again!!
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can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
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ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Ok great - yeah good idea! Ive not used it enough to warrant any need to upgrade the ROM and im pretty happy with its speed etc at the moment....prob because i aint got any apps on it apart from a YouTube one (since the lovely people at T-Mobile remove the YouTube app that comes with the phone!)
I'll have a play around with some of the mods on the site and try get it looking much sweeter!lol
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
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Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
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No worries mate. Have fun, search and ask. Also, be prepared to hard reset if/when you brick your phone for the 1st time
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hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
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hi thanks for quick reply
am glad you get micro sd, they could of threw the pouch in too LOL, oh well suppose its not that expensive. (know what you mean bout charger cable, same with diamond2 lol) i`m with orange at the mo there not releasing the phone on there network at all i dont think, got my diamond2 from carphone warehouse 10 months ago. its been put in for repair 2 times already due to touch screen failure, last time i put it in it got sent to htc who declared the warrenty void because of certain applications on the phone and have demanded £70 to fix even though i pay insurance every month. decided am not paying gonna cancel direct debit as it was nothing to do with software why i put it in, in the 1st place, think its ridiculous! i`d flashed a cooked rom on my phone and unblocked it with hard spl, i reflashed original htc rom before putting it in the shop but forgot to reblock my phone again, thats what they mean by CERTAIN APPLICATIONS. so beware if flashing your device with non htc rom and you have to claim on insurance for anything, you have to reflash everything back to original htc factory software/roms. to be honest hard spl(unblocking programme to flash any rom) is not out there yet for hd2, i dont think. but just a little tip for you..
by the way lol, i cant seem to get my hands on a hd2 anywhere, there like rocking horse sh#t!! lol am getting really bored watching videos about the device on pocketnow.com now tho Grrrrrrrrrrrrr lol i NEED one soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
just had an email from tmobile, apparently its on its way!!!!!!!!! yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314
hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
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hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
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Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
Double post pls discard
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Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Hey...i havent given it a go yet! as im new to this i decided to just play around with some little tweaks....like changing my taskbar and modifying some other options...like removing the "scroll down for more options" button during a call so the options are always present..........before i attempted anything big like flashing my ROM! lol
not sure regarding the warranty issue....id think so....tho if i had to send it in for repair (touch wood i wont) then id just restore it back to its original version 1st....
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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
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hey......to which version? 1.48? noticed any improvements?
Hey I'm thinking about getting the htc dream but I'm wondering if you canroot the dream that has the update. Thanks
The only way to do this is with Jtag.
panesingh said:
Hey I'm thinking about getting the htc dream but I'm wondering if you canroot the dream that has the update. Thanks
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The short answer is yes.
The long answer is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5934885
And it also helps to read and understand ALL of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591048
I know that's a lot of information, but if you intend on getting one of these phones with the intention of rooting it, you need to know ALL of it.
*****HOWEVER*****
IF you do live in CANADA and that is the reason you are looking at a robbers dream, I would STRONGLY suggest that you AVOID the unit. An ADP1 or tmobile branded DREAM is a FAR better choice since it is ALSO compatible with the new WCDMA carriers (wind mobile, moblicity, and videotron) ***IN ADDITION TO*** being compatible with robbers. They are also MUCH easier to root, and in the case of ADP1, they shipped from factory with root access.