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Help! Beginner Here! HTC HD2 on T-Mobile UK

Hi guys
Hoping someone would be kind enough to take the time out to answer some questions I have regarding my HD2 on T-Mobile UK and how I go about modifying it etc
Please bare with me....this is the first smartphone ive ever had and am totally new to all of this! :S
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
Would really appreciate any help/advice anyone is willing to give.....the site seems very oriented to people who know what they're doing lol and im struggling to find a section for novice users like myself! I really like that idea of having a phone I can customise whenever I like.....just not sure at all of how to start going about it......
Cheers!!!

1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
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The fact that it's locked to T-Mobile doesn't affect the majority of software on here. Sometimes, there'll be discrepancies between what's expected on your phone, and what's actually on your phone. This will be rare, and usually resolved on here anyway.
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
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Yes - Manila is the Sense UI.
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
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Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
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You don't need to "jailbreak" windows mobile. Question 3 covers this really.
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
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Having a T-Mobile phone won't stop you changing that at all. Just get used to these forums and searching them and you'll find most things you need. There's certainly taskbars on here. You're better off looking in either the root Leo forum (one step above this forum), or the themes and apps one. Also, the Sense UI has a lot of mods in other forums. The Blackstone, for example, had the Sense UI available in a ROM way before the HD2 was released, so that's also a good source of information.
Just keep reading and you'll be fine. We were all new here once
Have fun!

Thanks very much!! appreciate it!
however, u say here:
Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
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just wondering why I wouldnt want to apply ROM updates and windows updates? would it not be better to do this than wait for official updates from T-Mobile that will prob take forever to emerge?
I've seen on some forums that there is already an official (yet not appearing on the HTC site) HD2 ROM upgrade....but are you saying you advise against this? Or are u saying I dont want to change the core of the phone....but applying updates etc is still possible?
Sorry, excuse my ignorance!
Cheers

I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.

can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance

johncmolyneux said:
I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
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ah ok sorry...i must have misred your original reply! apologies
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
Many thanks again!!

**** turpin said:
can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!

giopirolli said:
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!

johncmolyneux said:
Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Ok great - yeah good idea! Ive not used it enough to warrant any need to upgrade the ROM and im pretty happy with its speed etc at the moment....prob because i aint got any apps on it apart from a YouTube one (since the lovely people at T-Mobile remove the YouTube app that comes with the phone!)
I'll have a play around with some of the mods on the site and try get it looking much sweeter!lol
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!

giopirolli said:
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
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No worries mate. Have fun, search and ask. Also, be prepared to hard reset if/when you brick your phone for the 1st time

giopirolli said:
hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
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hi thanks for quick reply
am glad you get micro sd, they could of threw the pouch in too LOL, oh well suppose its not that expensive. (know what you mean bout charger cable, same with diamond2 lol) i`m with orange at the mo there not releasing the phone on there network at all i dont think, got my diamond2 from carphone warehouse 10 months ago. its been put in for repair 2 times already due to touch screen failure, last time i put it in it got sent to htc who declared the warrenty void because of certain applications on the phone and have demanded £70 to fix even though i pay insurance every month. decided am not paying gonna cancel direct debit as it was nothing to do with software why i put it in, in the 1st place, think its ridiculous! i`d flashed a cooked rom on my phone and unblocked it with hard spl, i reflashed original htc rom before putting it in the shop but forgot to reblock my phone again, thats what they mean by CERTAIN APPLICATIONS. so beware if flashing your device with non htc rom and you have to claim on insurance for anything, you have to reflash everything back to original htc factory software/roms. to be honest hard spl(unblocking programme to flash any rom) is not out there yet for hd2, i dont think. but just a little tip for you..
by the way lol, i cant seem to get my hands on a hd2 anywhere, there like rocking horse sh#t!! lol am getting really bored watching videos about the device on pocketnow.com now tho Grrrrrrrrrrrrr lol i NEED one soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
just had an email from tmobile, apparently its on its way!!!!!!!!! yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

johncmolyneux said:
Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.

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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.

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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314

hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!

giopirolli said:
hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
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Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???

Gajet said:
Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday

Double post pls discard

babyshaq said:
Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Hey...i havent given it a go yet! as im new to this i decided to just play around with some little tweaks....like changing my taskbar and modifying some other options...like removing the "scroll down for more options" button during a call so the options are always present..........before i attempted anything big like flashing my ROM! lol
not sure regarding the warranty issue....id think so....tho if i had to send it in for repair (touch wood i wont) then id just restore it back to its original version 1st....

TartanArmy said:
I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
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hey......to which version? 1.48? noticed any improvements?

HTC HD2 vs HD2 T-Mobile

I've read around, as I am considering buying the HD2 very very soon (either I buy the HTC HD2 in the next month when I will be in the US or wait for a friend to go there someday, who knows when, to buy the T-Mobile....) My doubt is of course because of the small (not so small?) differences between the two. I posted this on another thread but got no luck, so I hope to be more noticed here...
I would like to summarize my options and clear up some doubts with the generous posters here:
- Everywhere it says HD2 US comes only in Spring. I assume it will only be available at T-Mobile after March or later. Expansys told me they expect it mid-march. Thus not in time if I want it in February during my trip.
- HD2 Europe vs US: 3G Bands, RAM and ROM. Any other difference?
- HD2 Europe: If HTC Sense is taken out there shall be plenty of ROM space for WM7 (if WM 7 is ever released for the HD2) and say about 100MB for applications (I don't care about installing many applications in ROM - just 100 MB or so)? Most agree with this? - This is my main doubt along with:
- HD2 US: can the camera pink hue be once and for all fixed (many people complain about it even after patching) with this new version of HD2? The Overexposure of Flash as well? - second main doubt.
I thank you so much for any help.

mbernstein said:
I've read around, as I am considering buying the HD2 very very soon (either I buy the HTC HD2 in the next month when I will be in the US or wait for a friend to go there someday, who knows when, to buy the T-Mobile....) My doubt is of course because of the small (not so small?) differences between the two. I posted this on another thread but got no luck, so I hope to be more noticed here...
I would like to summarize my options and clear up some doubts with the generous posters here:
- Everywhere it says HD2 US comes only in Spring. I assume it will only be available at T-Mobile after March or later. Expansys told me they expect it mid-march. Thus not in time if I want it in February during my trip.
- HD2 Europe vs US: 3G Bands, RAM and ROM. Any other difference?
- HD2 Europe: If HTC Sense is taken out there shall be plenty of ROM space for WM7 (if WM 7 is ever released for the HD2) and say about 100MB for applications (I don't care about installing many applications in ROM - just 100 MB or so)? Most agree with this? - This is my main doubt along with:
- HD2 US: can the camera pink hue be once and for all fixed (many people complain about it even after patching) with this new version of HD2? The Overexposure of Flash as well? - second main doubt.
I thank you so much for any help.
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may be the t mobile version will not work in your region where you are from

Thanks. I guess the frequencies are the same. Only problem is with 3G. But then I'll have problems with both as my area is 850Mhz. I have bought from T-mobile US before and had no problems with other stuff.

it's a no brainer as far as i would be concerned. swap full connectivity (it won't work right unless you are using t mobile us)for some extra rom that probably won't make any difference in the win 7 will it/won't it argument? not me, get yourself a "normal"one and forget the t mo one would be my advice.

mbernstein said:
Thanks. I guess the frequencies are the same. Only problem is with 3G. But then I'll have problems with both as my area is 850Mhz. I have bought from T-mobile US before and had no problems with other stuff.
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it would be better if you get a hd2 from australlia it has the same frequency as yours look at these specifications http://www.htc.com/au/product/hd2/specification.html and with respect to the extra rams and rom we discovered that hd2 normal has extra rams and activated now developers are searching now for extra rom

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it would be better if you get a hd2 from australlia it has the same frequency as yours look at these specifications http://www.htc.com/au/product/hd2/specification.html and with respect to the extra rams and rom we discovered that hd2 normal has extra rams and activated now developers are searching now for extra rom
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This is really great. Thanks. Anyone knows if it easy to get it into the US? I live in Brazil and it will be like paying more than double, I guess in the US sometimes they don't charge taxes for this... Any help?

samsamuel said:
it's a no brainer as far as i would be concerned. swap full connectivity (it won't work right unless you are using t mobile us)for some extra rom that probably won't make any difference in the win 7 will it/won't it argument? not me, get yourself a "normal"one and forget the t mo one would be my advice.
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I f I flash it with HTC Rom won't I be able to do my normal connectivity settings? (If I can't get the Australian as suggested above, which is kind of a deal maker... )

mbernstein said:
This is really great. Thanks. Anyone knows if it easy to get it into the US? I live in Brazil and it will be like paying more than double, I guess in the US sometimes they don't charge taxes for this... Any help?
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search at ebay i heared it is on it

mbernstein said:
I f I flash it with HTC Rom won't I be able to do my normal connectivity settings? (If I can't get the Australian as suggested above, which is kind of a deal maker... )
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the different radios use different hardware, flashing a new rom won't alter the frequencies it will or won't work with.

mbernstein said:
I f I flash it with HTC Rom won't I be able to do my normal connectivity settings? (If I can't get the Australian as suggested above, which is kind of a deal maker... )
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frequency is in hardware cannot be solved by flashing roms

Oh, you were talking about the Radio hardware itself. Yeah, I knew I would have to compromise my 3G with both the US and Europe version, although other bands would be fine. But this Australian option changes the picture. I'll take a look thanks to both.

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search at ebay i heared it is on it
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Looking for it, still haven't find. Just to clear it up, I believe only Telstra is selling it, but I assume I can a HARD SLP it and then flash HTC ROM, right? And make it SIM free as well?
Thanks

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Looking for it, still haven't find. Just to clear it up, I believe only Telstra is selling it, but I assume I can a HARD SLP it and then flash HTC ROM, right? And make it SIM free as well?
Thanks
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flashing, no problem, sim unlocking has been an issue for some people (there currently isn't a do it yourself unlocker, only web sites selling unlock codes, which some people say doesn't always work.)
am sure that will only be a temporary problem though...

Just to say thanks to you two who have been helping me. I've just placed an order for HD2 Telstra as suggested by hoss_n2. Grateful.

Should I buy the Telstra HD2?

I am considering buying the Telstra HD2 via a buddy in Oz for use on AT&Ts network. I have been checking out the forums and it seems there are a ton of issues with the HD2 regarding touch screen failures, data connection issues, and other nags that make the experience more frustrating than enjoyable.
Would love to know from experienced users opinions on whether or not I should buy the HD2. I am a very experienced BlackBerry user but I have gotten bored with the UI and want to try something new.
Also to note: I plan to use my next ATT upgrade to get the WP7 phone but that is too long a wait to stick it out on the BB. I am not going to switch to TMob as I think I am the only ATT user that is satisfied with ATT.
Really any thoughts on why I should or should not buy the Telstra HD2 would be appreciated.

king_fish said:
I am considering buying the Telstra HD2 via a buddy in Oz for use on AT&Ts network. I have been checking out the forums and it seems there are a ton of issues with the HD2 regarding touch screen failures, data connection issues, and other nags that make the experience more frustrating than enjoyable.
Would love to know from experienced users opinions on whether or not I should buy the HD2. I am a very experienced BlackBerry user but I have gotten bored with the UI and want to try something new.
Also to note: I plan to use my next ATT upgrade to get the WP7 phone but that is too long a wait to stick it out on the BB. I am not going to switch to TMob as I think I am the only ATT user that is satisfied with ATT.
Really any thoughts on why I should or should not buy the Telstra HD2 would be appreciated.
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The HD2 had ALOT of complaints from users when it first came out and all the problems it had was due to the terrible rom that it came with. The latest official Rom v1.66 and any custom rom from the rom development forum have fixed all these problems and after owning an HD2 for 2 1/2 months I can say hand on heart that it is the best phone I have ever seen or used. No freezes, no problems with the screen, no data connection problems and a pleasure to use. Everytime I look at it I still think WOW!!
Even the camera and video capture which has always been dismal at best on HTC phones is now fantastic and stunningly fast.
With the tweaks and mods available on xda you wont find a better phone.
I advised a friend to get one a few weeks ago and after he got his HD2 he thanked me for recommending it so my advise to you would be to get one as you will not be disapointed.
The only thing I will say is that once you get it be prepared to put HardSPL on it and flash either the 1.66 stock rom or one of the custom roms available to make sure it runs at its best.
Mark.

king_fish said:
I am considering buying the Telstra HD2 via a buddy in Oz for use on AT&T's network. ...any thoughts on why I should or should not buy the Telstra HD2 would be appreciated.
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I purchased one Telstra HD2 for myself, flashed the ROM (to XannyTech's), and have had no problems except a bug related to screen rotation during phone calls causing the dialpad to reposition itself annoyingly (there's a simple work-around). My boss was so impressed with the phone that he bought one and I've prepped it the same way.
I have no reservations about the purchases. Worrying about WP7 upgrade possibilities is silly since we all know so very little about what might happen. You're right not to listen to the Chicken Littles who want to sue HTC or see the price come down because an upgrade never offered now may only be possible instead of probable.

mskip said:
The HD2 had ALOT of complaints from users when it first came out and all the problems it had was due to the terrible rom that it came with. The latest official Rom v1.66 and any custom rom from the rom development forum have fixed all these problems and after owning an HD2 for 2 1/2 months I can say hand on heart that it is the best phone I have ever seen or used. No freezes, no problems with the screen, no data connection problems and a pleasure to use. Everytime I look at it I still think WOW!!
Even the camera and video capture which has always been dismal at best on HTC phones is now fantastic and stunningly fast.
With the tweaks and mods available on xda you wont find a better phone.
I advised a friend to get one a few weeks ago and after he got his HD2 he thanked me for recommending it so my advise to you would be to get one as you will not be disapointed.
The only thing I will say is that once you get it be prepared to put HardSPL on it and flash either the 1.66 stock rom or one of the custom roms available to make sure it runs at its best.
Mark.
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Awesome and thanks for the input. I am sold. My buddy in Perth grabbed one for me today and it is on the way to me. I was debating whether or not to sell it but I want to keep it. Your explanation of flashing the ROM was one of the first links I bookmarked from this site.
I am definitely going to have to HardSPL the device - what I understand is that the Telstra ROM will not allow me to access ATT's 3G bands. I have been on a BlackBerry for 5 years so this is all new to me but I am looking forward to getting the HD2.

king_fish said:
Awesome and thanks for the input. I am sold. My buddy in Perth grabbed one for me today and it is on the way to me. I was debating whether or not to sell it but I want to keep it. Your explanation of flashing the ROM was one of the first links I bookmarked from this site.
I am definitely going to have to HardSPL the device - what I understand is that the Telstra ROM will not allow me to access ATT's 3G bands. I have been on a BlackBerry for 5 years so this is all new to me but I am looking forward to getting the HD2.
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When you get it make sure you check the SPL in the bootloader screen to make sure you can put HardSPL on it. The requirements are SPL 1.42. I dont think any phones are being sold with a higher SPL version but you really want to check that first before you start drooling over the sheer beauty of it
Once you are ready to start flashing it please post in my flashing for noobs thread if you have any more observations or questions.
Mark.

manicotti said:
I purchased one Telstra HD2 for myself, flashed the ROM (to XannyTech's), and have had no problems except a bug related to screen rotation during phone calls causing the dialpad to reposition itself annoyingly (there's a simple work-around). My boss was so impressed with the phone that he bought one and I've prepped it the same way.
I have no reservations about the purchases. Worrying about WP7 upgrade possibilities is silly since we all know so very little about what might happen. You're right not to listen to the Chicken Littles who want to sue HTC or see the price come down because an upgrade never offered now may only be possible instead of probable.
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Theres an even better replacement than the rotate fix, there's a dll fix now too

I think it's an excellent phone, but the standard Telstra ROM is terrible, I'm using the latest Energy ROM and the phone is AMAZING now

I agree in that it is an excellent phone. I am using it on AT&T here in the US.
I have tried several of the ROMs cooked here and can say they all offer great alternatives. Go for it!

I also have the T9193 setup with ATT. I went for the safe sea wwe 1.66 rom. The only problem I had was with the data freezing on me a couple times a day. But once I got the right bands setup and installed the 2.08.50.08_2 radio the phone has been flawless for weeks. Not one issue. I have had no problems with the touchscreen at all.

mazzarin said:
Theres an even better replacement than the rotate fix, there's a dll fix now too
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Not the right thread maybe, but what is the link to this fix? Only thing that annoys me sometimes. Thanks.
Concerning this thread, MSKip recommended me the HD2 (he came from a TyTn II) just like me, and I can only repeat every word he said. Even camera is quite nice. Used in a trip with my kids, and it did its job when I needed quite nicely.
I also bought my Telstra to use in the same band as AT&T in Brazil. It's been working with no problem. I don't keep it connected all the time, so can not say about stability of connection, but whenever I need I connect HSPA right away and connection is quite fast and it is quite OK to browse the web with it. And thing is no lag! I use Miri 6.5.x, great, there is a fix for the registry to select correct bands or auto... My 2 cents.
PS: I was only missing a little bit hardware keyboard and media keys. Now I'm getting used to on-screen keyboard and typing is getting closer in speed and accuracy to a hard keyboard. Media keys, well, I use my bluetooth headphone's, still miss them sometimes, though, but nothing is perfect, is it?

I have been happy with ATT, but the price of the import is too steep so I cannot stay if I want the HD2
If you dont mind the price importing shouldnt be too bad, I know someone who did and has been very happy with it.

mbernstein said:
Not the right thread maybe, but what is the link to this fix? Only thing that annoys me sometimes. Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5768112&postcount=3

mazzarin said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5768112&postcount=3
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Thanks. Trying it.
Yes, not cheap. I've got my HD2 Telstra from Australia to the US for around U$ 800 total.

Froyo 2.2 & HTC Legend

Hi,
Please forgive me as I have been searching everywhere online and on the forum for my answer.
I have a HTC Legend (Virgin) that is unlocked - Running on Rogers.
1st Question: Is this phone Rootable? I have heard yes and I have heard no, based on the firmware that it is presently running.
2nd Question: Is it possible if the phone is rooted to flash a Basic 2.2 Android Rom (I personally don't use HTC Sense)
The reason I am asking as HTC Announced that 2.2 Will not be updated until Christmas time.
And Before anyone says I should have bought the NEXUS One - The reason - THE SIZE
That phone is huge, I previously had an Xperia X10, which was TOO Big and I quite like the build quality of the Legend.
Thanks for all your Help! I Greatly Appreciate it!

Yes the phone is rootable, but you're right it depends on what version you currently have installed. Check out the android development section to figure out what you can and can't do.
Froyo at christmas is incorrect.
Htc has said all current devices will have froyo before christmas. However speculation says the legend itself should most likely have it in or around august.
Next, if you manage to root your phone you can talk a look in the android development section(again) for the legend and you will find 1 or 2 froyo roms have been ported semi successfully. They work and run but have a few minor problems.
One is the cyogen mod 6 (I probably spelled it wrong)thread.
You cannot flash a stock version of froyo to the legend, you will have to use one of these roms.
Hope I could help. I'm looking at getting the virgin mobile legend myself soon. are you happy so far?

Thanks
Thanks for your info! I was just feeling a little overwhelmed with all the info as I am not really up with all the lingo.
To answer your question about the Legend, I love it! The build quality is Superior, it just fits in your hand so nicely, and looks good there as well.
I have had MANY cell phones in the last 5 years (Well over 40...) and this is one that I know I will keep for a long time... More so than the iPhone.
Cheers.
Kris

kpms said:
Hi,
I have a HTC Legend (Virgin) that is unlocked - Running on Rogers.
!
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How did you unlock it?
Have you debranded it?
Did you succeed with installing 2.2?
Thanks!

kpms said:
Hi,
Please forgive me as I have been searching everywhere online and on the forum for my answer.
I have a HTC Legend (Virgin) that is unlocked - Running on Rogers.
1st Question: Is this phone Rootable? I have heard yes and I have heard no, based on the firmware that it is presently running.
2nd Question: Is it possible if the phone is rooted to flash a Basic 2.2 Android Rom (I personally don't use HTC Sense)
The reason I am asking as HTC Announced that 2.2 Will not be updated until Christmas time.
And Before anyone says I should have bought the NEXUS One - The reason - THE SIZE
That phone is huge, I previously had an Xperia X10, which was TOO Big and I quite like the build quality of the Legend.
Thanks for all your Help! I Greatly Appreciate it!
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this is what i wanna know because i am in the same position as you anf my root failed.

RomNoR said:
How did you unlock it?
Have you debranded it?
Did you succeed with installing 2.2?
Thanks!
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Hey,
To be honest I took it to an Unlocking place in Vancouver, It took them aprox 20 min to complete, It still has a few Apps for Virgin/Bell on the phone however no where does it have the Virgin Logo Etc. I use the Rogers APN Settings rogers-core-appl1.apn and it works flawless with 3G
I have not been able to get 2.2 onto this phone at this point, I may just wait until it's pushed out by HTC.

This sounds GR8!
I'm waiting for my Legend to arrive any day, now...
I have a HTC Legend (Virgin) that is unlocked - Running on Rogers.
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Do You know what they did to the phone? To unlock it i mean....
I ordered Wildfire but changed my mind and changed the order to Legend...
A good choice i think...
Been using my KAISER for a looong time now and it's time for a retirement, i think
Just installed Donut Android on my KAISER but it soaks battery so i think i have to revert to WM 6.5 again....
I think i'll use it as a backup phone for some time
Does anyone know if tom tom works on Legend?

The unlock was done through the store so not quite sure on how it was completed. I have seen many websites that offer the unlock.
In regards to TomTom try the Google navigation. It's amazing. Works great and integrates with your contacts and the mapping program quite well. I find the voice to be quite rough. Hopefully they'll allow changes to that after its out is Beta.
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

kpms said:
The unlock was done through the store so not quite sure on how it was completed. I have seen many websites that offer the unlock.
In regards to TomTom try the Google navigation. It's amazing. Works great and integrates with your contacts and the mapping program quite well. I find the voice to be quite rough. Hopefully they'll allow changes to that after its out is Beta.
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App
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Doesn't Google Navi go online to get positions?
Could be costly, wouldn't it
I'll try it out though
Tom Tom has the maps in map folder so no online search and so on....
regarding the unlock thingy i guess someone figures it out so we can do it ourselves
Maybe somewhat like the KAISER unlock i guess...

rolfro65 said:
This sounds GR8!
I'm waiting for my Legend to arrive any day, now...
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Where did you buy it?

I bought my legend at Virgin (349 CAD) and am running Rogers as well, to unlock it you need to purchased the unlock code from HTC by providing the phones S/N. Their are lots of places online that will provide the codes for $10-20, I haven't been able to find a free source.
Currently their is no software unlock for this phone.

RomNoR said:
Where did you buy it?
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I bought mine @ three(3)online Swedish site. I first ordered Wildfire but changed the order to Legend..... I'm happy like a baby
I'm confident someone figures out how to unlock it quite soon. It's not branded so i'm searching for a way too unlock it right now... Any ideas, anyone?
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

Heard the n1 has already got froyo..i hope it wont be long for the legend & desire

I have the Virgin Mobile (Canada) HTC Legend and can confirm I was able to successfully unlock it for usage on Fido/Rogers. After this I upgraded the rom using a gold card to a stock HTC rom to remove the Bell/Virgin crapware.
After this I found the downgrade path to 1.31 which has successfully allowed me to have the phone rooted. Now I just need to wait for a good rom to be made with sense. So far all the roms I have tried do have their own issues like, camera problems, pinch zoom functionality...

I cant w8
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

jackblaq said:
I have the Virgin Mobile (Canada) HTC Legend and can confirm I was able to successfully unlock it for usage on Fido/Rogers. After this I upgraded the rom using a gold card to a stock HTC rom to remove the Bell/Virgin crapware.
After this I found the downgrade path to 1.31 which has successfully allowed me to have the phone rooted. Now I just need to wait for a good rom to be made with sense. So far all the roms I have tried do have their own issues like, camera problems, pinch zoom functionality...
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Sounds good, Im going to grab myself one from Virgin soon, except they are all sold out in canada now i currently have a European version, run around edge only but i love it. By the way, where did you find the stock HTC rom?

HTC Desire HD (vodafone UK) help!!!! (Resolved – unbranded)

hi,
I just got my Desire HD.
andriod ver: 2.2.1
baseband ver: 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2
kernel: 2.6.32.21-g1e30168
software ver: 1.75.161.2
i want to root the phone and get all this damn vodafone bloatware off the phone.
before i do this i want to get the Vodafone_UK RUU. Does anyone know where i can get the file?
**Resolved – unbranded!!!!!!!**
thx to everyone who helped!!!!!!!!
i did the following...
created gold card
http://android.modaco.com/content/general-discussion/305672/creating-a-goldcard/
or
http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
did the downgrade as i was on 1.7x
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841207

Mrjonnyrock,
Im on Vodafone UK and my phone arrived anbranded. Im currently on stock 1.72.405.3. I think the bloatware (Facebook, twitter etc) is actually HTC standard bloatware rather than Vodafone. I originally rooted using the one click method and removed all such software. You will need to follow the down grade threads to return to 1.32.405.6 to use such a method though but it isnt that easy.
Heed the warnings though as removing such software blocks HTC's OTA updates (I learnt that the hard way).
A programme like LauncherPro will enable you to hide unwanted apps from your app drawer. I know thats not permanent and they still exist in some alternative reality but if you are only going to root to remove those apps rather than run a custom rom it may be simpler and easier in the long run.
Just my opinion though.

Evostance said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841207
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thx, but i can not access any of those links.
Lankius Maximus said:
Mrjonnyrock,
Im on Vodafone UK and my phone arrived anbranded. Im currently on stock 1.72.405.3. I think the bloatware (Facebook, twitter etc) is actually HTC standard bloatware rather than Vodafone. I originally rooted using the one click method and removed all such software. You will need to follow the down grade threads to return to 1.32.405.6 to use such a method though but it isnt that easy.
Heed the warnings though as removing such software blocks HTC's OTA updates (I learnt that the hard way).
A programme like LauncherPro will enable you to hide unwanted apps from your app drawer. I know thats not permanent and they still exist in some alternative reality but if you are only going to root to remove those apps rather than run a custom rom it may be simpler and easier in the long run.
Just my opinion though.
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There are a bunch of stupid demo games and other crap installed including vodafone 360, rubbish that i want to get off.
Why put this crap on a device? Its like the laptop OEMs, installing all the crap under the sun to make some extra cash. I am not offered my device for less money, but they get my money and money form advertisers.
WHEN THE BLOODY HELL WILL THESE PEOPLE LEARN. WE DON'T WANT YOUR CRAP SOFTWARE INSTALLED ON DEVICES THAT WE PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR. why must i have stuff installed on a device that i do not want with no way of getting it off the device. I pay for the device i should have the right to choose what i want on it and not be forced accept having the stuff forced on me.
i have had the phone for a day now and if i don't find a way of getting this crap off the phone without voiding my warranty, it will go back to vodafone.

mrjonnyrock said:
thx, but i can not access any of those links.
There are a bunch of stupid demo games and other crap installed including vodafone 360, rubbish that i want to get off.
Why put this crap on a device? Its like the laptop OEMs, installing all the crap under the sun to make some extra cash. I am not offered my device for less money, but they get my money and money form advertisers.
WHEN THE BLOODY HELL WILL THESE PEOPLE LEARN. WE DON'T WANT YOUR CRAP SOFTWARE INSTALLED ON DEVICES THAT WE PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR. why must i have stuff installed on a device that i do not want with no way of getting it off the device. I pay for the device i should have the right to choose what i want on it and not be forced accept having the stuff forced on me.
i have had the phone for a day now and if i don't find a way of getting this crap off the phone without voiding my warranty, it will go back to vodafone.
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Yeah you'll have to wait. The guy hit is bandwidth quote

mrjonnyrock said:
i have had the phone for a day now and if i don't find a way of getting this crap off the phone without voiding my warranty, it will go back to vodafone.
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Nope, flashing the phone with a different ROM is going to void your warranty, Vodafone put this crap on your phone as it makes them money, so it is there vested interest to insist that it stays put

ghostofcain said:
Nope, flashing the phone with a different ROM is going to void your warranty, Vodafone put this crap on your phone as it makes them money, so it is there vested interest to insist that it stays put
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i thought as much My original HTC Desire had to go back to HTC for repairs and this could take longer than a week. the phone did not really have much crap on it. i guess this because there is not much memory on the phone to install crap. I did not think that the Desire HD would come loaded with rubbish so did not even think about that.
Can i deal directly with HTC if there are any hardware issues with the phone? or would it have to go back via vodafone?

Vodafone have bad habits of doing this to people so this is hardly surprising. I got my DHD a couple weeks after release and theres no bloatware on it, but i had a feeling they were going to, so I got it early. But Google in their infinite wisdom said that 2.3/2.4 android will make things easier for mobile companies to brand the phones.

i do understand the guy....
i have a desire which i bought via ebay and got it unlocked.
it does have some t mobile stuff...start up animation etc....
i was thinking of copying an official rom straight from htc to it...
the problem i have is this ...... which one
had the phone for 3 days only and haven't had time to play with it... it's not my first htc phone flashed others before... just need some direction

juno256 said:
i do understand the guy....
i have a desire which i bought via ebay and got it unlocked.
it does have some t mobile stuff...start up animation etc....
i was thinking of copying an official rom straight from htc to it...
the problem i have is this ...... which one
had the phone for 3 days only and haven't had time to play with it... it's not my first htc phone flashed others before... just need some direction
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well i have just downloaded this one:
http://www.shipped-roms.com/shipped....140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe
Anyone know what loading this would do to my uk vodafone Desire HD?

well i had an orange hd phone before...
i had to run a root kit before being able to copy any other roms...
so you may have to check that before...
i still need some time before i flash it or maybe wait for gingerbread to come out... so that i do that only once
why don't u unload uninstall any vodafone stuff?

I had my phone from Virgin Mobile. Luckily not too much bloatware on it.
I eneded up rooting it simply as I like using stock Android rather than HTC Sense, which is always a good reason to root.
So now I'm runnign CyanogenMod7 , which is Android 2.3, runnign overclocked to 1.5Ghz.
Fast like you would not believe !
And to be fair, once rooted you';ll probably get updates here faster than waiting for Vodafone to update it OTA !!

juno256 said:
why don't u unload uninstall any vodafone stuff?
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the uninstall option is greyed out. Stuff like Tower Bloxx NY Trail, Texas Hold'em, uno trial etc can not be removed. Also this vodafone 360 stuff is rubbish. Great i am with vodafone, but i will never use this stuff.
O and what if i was a recovering gambling addict vodafone? Or if gambling was something I did not want on my phone for religious reasons. This is the UK, looks like someone did not check with legal before sending out devices.

mrjonnyrock said:
the uninstall option is greyed out. Stuff like Tower Bloxx NY Trail, Texas Hold'em, uno trial etc can not be removed. Also this vodafone 360 stuff is rubbish. Great i am with vodafone, but i will never use this stuff.
O and what if i was a recovering gambling addict vodafone? Or if gambling was something I did not want on my phone for religious reasons. This is the UK, looks like someone did not check with legal before sending out devices.
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LOL! Love the gambling part
check this out - http://htcrom.com/where_get_right_htc_rom_your_phone

So glad I got my DesireHD on launch as it's unbranded. My g/f's Galaxy was loaded with Orange branded ****, and I mean ****, games where you click and have to buy, again with no option of uninstall.

mrjonnyrock said:
thx, but i can not access any of those links.
There are a bunch of stupid demo games and other crap installed including vodafone 360, rubbish that i want to get off.
Why put this crap on a device? Its like the laptop OEMs, installing all the crap under the sun to make some extra cash. I am not offered my device for less money, but they get my money and money form advertisers.
WHEN THE BLOODY HELL WILL THESE PEOPLE LEARN. WE DON'T WANT YOUR CRAP SOFTWARE INSTALLED ON DEVICES THAT WE PAY A LOT OF MONEY FOR. why must i have stuff installed on a device that i do not want with no way of getting it off the device. I pay for the device i should have the right to choose what i want on it and not be forced accept having the stuff forced on me.
i have had the phone for a day now and if i don't find a way of getting this crap off the phone without voiding my warranty, it will go back to vodafone.
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Did you actually pay Vodafone for the phone, or was it free/discounted on contract?
If you paid full price for it... why not buy it unbranded e.g. from Carphone Warehouse?

mrjonnyrock said:
hi,
I just got my Desire HD.
andriod ver: 2.2.1
baseband ver: 12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2
kernel: 2.6.32.21-g1e30168
software ver: 1.75.161.2
i want to root the phone and get all this damn vodafone bloatware off the phone.
before i do this i want to get the Vodafone_UK RUU. Does anyone know where i can get the file?
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Hi, i have same problem like you but the only difference is that my phone is brand vodafone spain,just purchased from ebay,and would love to unlock this htc desire hd and use any sim card on it,do you know some good step to unlock it,i will really appreciate the help,i am surfing around but the only web site that came explainin and talking about it is this one XDA-DEVELOPERS :
I know that this are not simple step to unlock a device but,i just hope some one will answer me asap hope to hear some one soon thanks to all.

tomegranate said:
Did you actually pay Vodafone for the phone, or was it free/discounted on contract?
If you paid full price for it... why not buy it unbranded e.g. from Carphone Warehouse?
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well its a new contract so its not free. You get nothing for free.
By the time the contract it up i would have paid for it.
Discounted, don't make me laugh. Vodafone would not offer any device/service if they did not make money. They have a % of profit that they need to make on every contract.
Edit:
also, i am not really that unhappy with the vodafone branding or the 360 software. i will just not use it. Its a pain but i can live with that. The thing that is just not on is the installing of demo or trial software that can not be removed.

mrjonnyrock said:
well i have just downloaded this one:
RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe
Anyone know what loading this would do to my uk vodafone Desire HD?
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Thats the one I used to get rid of my 3UK bloatware. Its perfect.. fastboot really is fastboot now! No more splash/loading screens.. no more unwanted games and apps.

Don’t work ( RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26 .03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe) on mine (vodafone UK). it may be that mine is now running Andriod 2.2.1 but when i try and install it i get the error customer ID.
Am seriously thinking that it needs to be taken back to Vodafone.
The thing that is worrying me is that in say 12 months time Vodafone might not bother to update the device even if google/htc have an update for the phone.