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htc magic question...pleese help

Hi, i am planing to buy the htc magic this weekend with vodafone australia.
I heard the the sense ui (hero rom) will be an update for the device in the neer future.
but i also heard that it will only be coming to specific magic devices...something about weather it has google written on it or something.
I was wondering weather anyone has any idea on weather the htc magic with Vodafone Australia will be getting this update.
If this is not possible i know i am able to root my device and get the sense UI. But will it work just as good as on the hero? As it only has 192mb ram and 288 on hero.
also, if i am going to have to root the device. Does anyone have the stock rom for the australian vodafone magic?
I am warried that i will not be able to find the right rom as vodafone australia has made their own little teaks to the rom, and if its any different it will void my warrenty. :S
P.S If there is any reason why i should not buy this phone, PLEESE TELL ME.
P.P.S I know theres no bluetooth for file sharing yet but i also heard theres an app called bluexx or somthing. I heard for some countries this app doesnt work... has anyone in australia got bluetooth to work?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE! AND SORRY FOR LONG POST.

OMG...i just found out that if u buy the phone with three then it hasn't got the with google written on the back....and on the three version it has 288mb ram instead of the 192mb with vodafone.
So if you buy the phone with three you get updates??
and if you buy it with vodafone you don't?
that's a scam...
It's a shame because vodafone is offering a much better deal, i guess this is why.
i'll still probly end up rooting it. so all other questions still need answering badly.
PLEASE HELP
AND THANKS

TouchPro1108 said:
OMG...i just found out that if u buy the phone with three then it hasn't got the with google written on the back....and on the three version it has 288mb ram instead of the 192mb with vodafone.
So if you buy the phone with three you get updates??
and if you buy it with vodafone you don't?
that's a scam...
It's a shame because vodafone is offering a much better deal, i guess this is why.
i'll still probly end up rooting it. so all other questions still need answering badly.
PLEASE HELP
AND THANKS
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i have a 3 aust. magic, rooted the day i got it. nandroided original rom in case of warranty.
bluex works great-used it the other day.
as for updates no one really knows....too bad for me now that i am rooted- ithink modded roms are ahead of the google/htc android curve in many aspects anyway....

MontAlbert said:
i have a 3 aust. magic, rooted the day i got it. nandroided original rom in case of warranty.
bluex works great-used it the other day.
as for updates no one really knows....too bad for me now that i am rooted- ithink modded roms are ahead of the google/htc android curve in many aspects anyway....
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ahhh thank you very much!
just what i wanted
I am starting to lean towards the hero though :S
The only differences between the two are,
multitouch,
Teflon coating,
5mp camera,
flash player 10
umm
I think that multitouch on the magic actually works
and I'm pretty sure you can get flash player for magic aswell?
could anyone confirm that these are the only differences?
and if the other 2 can be added on magic?

TouchPro1108 said:
multitouch,
Teflon coating,
5mp camera,
flash player 10
umm
I think that multitouch on the magic actually works
and I'm pretty sure you can get flash player for magic aswell?
could anyone confirm that these are the only differences?
and if the other 2 can be added on magic?
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flash is available on hero rom.
multi-touch is avail on hero rom
I can see your issue but here is the main thing- here in australia, the magic is here and now- here- no wrranty issues (if buying OS), the Hero wont be here for another month or 2 and oyu know that release dates often get pushed back, by the time it is released there will be an even faster/prettier phone being released 2months after......
I love my magic- wasnt sure i would, just wanted the 3 half price data plan...was gonna sell on ebay and keep my g1.....now for limestar's super android phone (see whirlpool forums) coming at the end of the year....the magic will do me until then.....

MontAlbert said:
flash is available on hero rom.
multi-touch is avail on hero rom
I can see your issue but here is the main thing- here in australia, the magic is here and now- here- no wrranty issues (if buying OS), the Hero wont be here for another month or 2 and oyu know that release dates often get pushed back, by the time it is released there will be an even faster/prettier phone being released 2months after......
I love my magic- wasnt sure i would, just wanted the 3 half price data plan...was gonna sell on ebay and keep my g1.....now for limestar's super android phone (see whirlpool forums) coming at the end of the year....the magic will do me until then.....
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ok thanks, i'll be getting my new phone very soon hopefully
Has any1 found a turn by turn voice navigation (gps) software for a android phone? if so can someone please link me?
P.S. please don't refer me to something that uses data useage... i understand the software may cost, but i don't want to be paying for internet usage.
THANKS

For turn by turn get copilot. Not free but way less than standalone GPS, and best of all you download the maps to SD so they're always there and NO data usage

dazcox5181 said:
For turn by turn get copilot. Not free but way less than standalone GPS, and best of all you download the maps to SD so they're always there and NO data usage
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THANK YOU!!
with copilot... how did u get Australian maps for android?
It seems there's only Australian maps with winmo.
THANKS

Whoops. Sorry didn't see you're in Oz - CoPilot site lists it as coming soon, I'm UK where maps already out.
Don't think there is any other Turn By Turn app on the market at the moment

You in Melbourne? If so let me know and I'll take you through the ADP1 and ION phones to show you what the difference in memory means in terms of performance.

TommyPickles said:
You in Melbourne? If so let me know and I'll take you through the ADP1 and ION phones to show you what the difference in memory means in terms of performance.
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Nope I'm in Brisbane sorry.
why does it matter were I'm from?

i have just rooted my HTC magic with google on vodafone and works a dream with hero rom, such a ui difference so much more exciting plus integrated flash and multitouch puts the iphone to shame with its looks

redmdc said:
i have just rooted my HTC magic with google on vodafone and works a dream with hero rom, such a ui difference so much more exciting plus integrated flash and multitouch puts the iphone to shame with its looks
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okay thanks
i guess if the ram doesn't make much difference to the hero rom speed,
ill get the vodafone 1
its 59 a month and 500mb data and $350 credit.
its 58 a month on three with only 150 credit haha.
ohhh, and with copilot, i heard that it's going to be getting australian maps next month or so.
seems as it has a picture of hero with copilot, im guessing it will come out when hero does?? anyone with more information on that pleese tell. ^.^

I have the vadaphone $59 plan and it great.
Small issue though that after 2 days of excitement and grabing as much as I can from the market, mid stream using the internet explorer someone rang and the unit haulted. After a reset I had the android boot loop which forced me to change the rom.
I went and uploaded the Fatality Hero, its great but slowish at times, internet seems slower and 3g not working.
Is there an aussie rom that has the hero roms that work with our 3g.

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joko1 said:
I have the vadaphone $59 plan and it great.
Small issue though that after 2 days of excitement and grabing as much as I can from the market, mid stream using the internet explorer someone rang and the unit haulted. After a reset I had the android boot loop which forced me to change the rom.
I went and uploaded the Fatality Hero, its great but slowish at times, internet seems slower and 3g not working.
Is there an aussie rom that has the hero roms that work with our 3g.
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This is probably something you've already tried but if 3g is not working make sure your APN settings are filled out correctly as it may not have auto-detected. Had this issue with dad's Magic (he bought one outright the day he saw mine delivered from 3).
Beautiful device. Though I hope we'll still get Android 2.0 when it hits because from what I hear most of the Android devices next year will be on Snapdragon (1 ghz chip) which will probably **** on the magic hardware wise. Still a while away yet.

MontAlbert said:
i have a 3 aust. magic, rooted the day i got it. nandroided original rom in case of warranty.
bluex works great-used it the other day.
as for updates no one really knows....too bad for me now that i am rooted- ithink modded roms are ahead of the google/htc android curve in many aspects anyway....
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Hi, do you still have your Nandroid backup of the 32A or the original Three rom. When I rooted my phone and flashed the ROM I was still too much of a noob to know exactly what to do with Nandroid, so I lost my factory setup. Is there any chance you could post an image?

help me with my HTC magic
i paid the code from allgsm adn just got the code, i found the following but when i put in different sim card. nothing happen. did not show enter network/unlock code. just a cross at the signal logo. how to enter code ??
HTC, SPV, MDA, XDA, iMATE and T-Mobile G1
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How to enter my Unlock Code on HTC, SPV, MDA, XDA, iMATE and T-Mobile G1 ? Model : All (including G1)
1 - Switch ON mobile with a not Allowed SIM Card,
2 - If phone ask, enter the PIN code of your SIM Card
3 - Now phone will ask you to enter the unlocking code !

Help! Beginner Here! HTC HD2 on T-Mobile UK

Hi guys
Hoping someone would be kind enough to take the time out to answer some questions I have regarding my HD2 on T-Mobile UK and how I go about modifying it etc
Please bare with me....this is the first smartphone ive ever had and am totally new to all of this! :S
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
Would really appreciate any help/advice anyone is willing to give.....the site seems very oriented to people who know what they're doing lol and im struggling to find a section for novice users like myself! I really like that idea of having a phone I can customise whenever I like.....just not sure at all of how to start going about it......
Cheers!!!

1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
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The fact that it's locked to T-Mobile doesn't affect the majority of software on here. Sometimes, there'll be discrepancies between what's expected on your phone, and what's actually on your phone. This will be rare, and usually resolved on here anyway.
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
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Yes - Manila is the Sense UI.
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
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Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
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You don't need to "jailbreak" windows mobile. Question 3 covers this really.
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
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Having a T-Mobile phone won't stop you changing that at all. Just get used to these forums and searching them and you'll find most things you need. There's certainly taskbars on here. You're better off looking in either the root Leo forum (one step above this forum), or the themes and apps one. Also, the Sense UI has a lot of mods in other forums. The Blackstone, for example, had the Sense UI available in a ROM way before the HD2 was released, so that's also a good source of information.
Just keep reading and you'll be fine. We were all new here once
Have fun!

Thanks very much!! appreciate it!
however, u say here:
Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
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just wondering why I wouldnt want to apply ROM updates and windows updates? would it not be better to do this than wait for official updates from T-Mobile that will prob take forever to emerge?
I've seen on some forums that there is already an official (yet not appearing on the HTC site) HD2 ROM upgrade....but are you saying you advise against this? Or are u saying I dont want to change the core of the phone....but applying updates etc is still possible?
Sorry, excuse my ignorance!
Cheers

I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.

can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance

johncmolyneux said:
I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
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ah ok sorry...i must have misred your original reply! apologies
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
Many thanks again!!

**** turpin said:
can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!

giopirolli said:
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!

johncmolyneux said:
Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Ok great - yeah good idea! Ive not used it enough to warrant any need to upgrade the ROM and im pretty happy with its speed etc at the moment....prob because i aint got any apps on it apart from a YouTube one (since the lovely people at T-Mobile remove the YouTube app that comes with the phone!)
I'll have a play around with some of the mods on the site and try get it looking much sweeter!lol
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!

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Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
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No worries mate. Have fun, search and ask. Also, be prepared to hard reset if/when you brick your phone for the 1st time

giopirolli said:
hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
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hi thanks for quick reply
am glad you get micro sd, they could of threw the pouch in too LOL, oh well suppose its not that expensive. (know what you mean bout charger cable, same with diamond2 lol) i`m with orange at the mo there not releasing the phone on there network at all i dont think, got my diamond2 from carphone warehouse 10 months ago. its been put in for repair 2 times already due to touch screen failure, last time i put it in it got sent to htc who declared the warrenty void because of certain applications on the phone and have demanded £70 to fix even though i pay insurance every month. decided am not paying gonna cancel direct debit as it was nothing to do with software why i put it in, in the 1st place, think its ridiculous! i`d flashed a cooked rom on my phone and unblocked it with hard spl, i reflashed original htc rom before putting it in the shop but forgot to reblock my phone again, thats what they mean by CERTAIN APPLICATIONS. so beware if flashing your device with non htc rom and you have to claim on insurance for anything, you have to reflash everything back to original htc factory software/roms. to be honest hard spl(unblocking programme to flash any rom) is not out there yet for hd2, i dont think. but just a little tip for you..
by the way lol, i cant seem to get my hands on a hd2 anywhere, there like rocking horse sh#t!! lol am getting really bored watching videos about the device on pocketnow.com now tho Grrrrrrrrrrrrr lol i NEED one soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
just had an email from tmobile, apparently its on its way!!!!!!!!! yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

johncmolyneux said:
Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.

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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.

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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314

hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!

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hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
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Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???

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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday

Double post pls discard

babyshaq said:
Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Hey...i havent given it a go yet! as im new to this i decided to just play around with some little tweaks....like changing my taskbar and modifying some other options...like removing the "scroll down for more options" button during a call so the options are always present..........before i attempted anything big like flashing my ROM! lol
not sure regarding the warranty issue....id think so....tho if i had to send it in for repair (touch wood i wont) then id just restore it back to its original version 1st....

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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
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hey......to which version? 1.48? noticed any improvements?

HTC Hero 2.1 t-mobile GSM Update ota

Hi, just wondering if anyone can please help me.
Has the t-mobile released the 2.1 update for their G2 Gsm HTC Hero?
Mine is unrooted, and still on 1.5, getting a little frustrated waiting now. Im using the Handset in the u.s with a none t-mobile sim. Will this make a difference? Theres no che l for software update in the menu of the tmobile editions. Thanks
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You're posting in the Android Development forum! We're all into rooting our phones and flashing custom roms here!
If you'd like to root your phone and flash 2.1 (or 2.2 now!), then do a bit of reading here and over at theunlockr.com on rooting the HTC Hero. Then pick your ROM and flash away.
If, however, you're looking to stay on a stock ROM, your best best would be to check the T-Mobile discussion forum. It's probably full of people crying out for the T-Mobile branded update, like they were at the tail end of 2009.

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Hi, just wondering if anyone can please help me.
Has the t-mobile released the 2.1 update for their G2 Gsm HTC Hero?
Mine is unrooted, and still on 1.5, getting a little frustrated waiting now. Im using the Handset in the u.s with a none t-mobile sim. Will this make a difference? Theres no che l for software update in the menu of the tmobile editions. Thanks
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if you're stuck on stock 1.5, try this it worked for my mate:
- Settings > time and date
- Untick the automatic time setting
- Change the data forward a year
- You should recieve a pop up after a couple of seconds...

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if you're stuck on stock 1.5, try this it worked for my mate:
- Settings > time and date
- Untick the automatic time setting
- Change the data forward a year
- You should recieve a pop up after a couple of seconds...
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For my own knowledge only, has the 2.1 T-Mobile ROM been released?

Yes the T-Mobile 2.1 has been released. My wife flashed the OTA update and now ive lost root. any ideas how to get root back?
Never mind you can flash back to the november rom on the htc website then just use your gold card again woop woop.

nolimit966 said:
Hi, just wondering if anyone can please help me.
Has the t-mobile released the 2.1 update for their G2 Gsm HTC Hero?
Mine is unrooted, and still on 1.5, getting a little frustrated waiting now. Im using the Handset in the u.s with a none t-mobile sim. Will this make a difference? Theres no che l for software update in the menu of the tmobile editions. Thanks
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Hi,
I guess they did not yet upgrade. The main link I see is:
http://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/..._UK_2.73.110.26_R_release_signed_NoDriver.zip
Still the 1.5 For NL anyhow.

Bunt, a few people have mentioned that clock forward method, tried it but no luck. Do u think it maybe because i dont have a t-mobile sim in it wont work?
I cant root my handset as im travelling for a few months and have no access to a p.c without the admin restrictions etc :-(
thanks a lot for your help though.
Really appreciated
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A friend of mine received the OTA on his last night. However my other friend hasent received this yet, is there a mirror on the tmo website to get it from at all?

just do the factory restore, u will shortly after be in the update process.
got the g2 t-mobile (last night) and done this last night. went to 1.6 and then 2.1 i think.
due to sense, u wont really see much difference in the layout.

Aah yer, thats kinda eorked. My phone now asks to update. I click the Update now button and the phone restarts. It then reboots with a yellow explamation icon with a phone amd doesnt do anything else at all. I left it for over an hour. Any suggestions? Ive tried restarting, battery off ect but just keep getting the yellow icon after the update reboot... mmm
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[Q] Who would like a guide to debranding there HD's ?

I dont know how many people have branded desire HD's or how many would like a way of debranding there devices.
So this post if for me to see there is a need for such a thing.
So if there is enough people needing this i will look into if it can be donre and write a guide.
:-D

Please do a guide to help me remove the Vodafone bloatware on it
What can be done though at the moment besides from visionary temp root and pm disable?

if anyone with a branded device wants to test this method befor hand please join IRC : freenode channel #DesireHD
You will need a USB mircoSD card reader.
And THIS rom

Did you have a win? I also need info on removing my vodafone bloatware!! =)

i didnt think they had any branding on them? Im on t-mobile UK and cant see anything related to them.

Moved to Themes and Apps for now. Will keep an eye on it.
Cheers,
M_T_M

I'm definitely keen on getting rid of Vodafone bloatware (Australia) but I would like the option of reverting back to my current ROM simply because the warranty becomes void, the moment I flash a new ROM.

I haven't got a DHD, but i'm very interested in it. If i'm going to buy it, i think it will be branded (Vodafone GER). I don't know if the branding will disturb me, but i think updating an unbranded phone is still easyer and faster(!) (because downloading the update OTA or from HTCs page) as waiting for an update from the provider.
If you'll going to write the howto for unbranding DHD, please also mark some notes how to get the phone in delivery of condition (saving branded ROM a.s.o.).

A guide to debranding the Desire HD would definitely be good. Not that I need it, but for those with branded phones, it would be excellent.

T-mobile UK are totally unbranded! Which is awesome, it was too much to hope that they were unlocked as well but hey ho.

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T-mobile UK are totally unbranded! Which is awesome, it was too much to hope that they were unlocked as well but hey ho.
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Ann that's the answer I have been looking for. Is that confirmed ? If so yea if it was unlocked it would of been good
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Here's your guide :
You just have to replace MMC1 by MMC2 and at the end just install your RUU and that's all.
I have debranded my SFR Desire HD last night using this.

Does this remove the SIM lock too, if you flash an unbranded ROM?

I don't think, but just haven't tried yet.

No worries there. Was glad with it till I realized the vibrate was pooched do I have to get a replacement... -_-
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[Q] htc desire z is more laggy/slow than the old desire?

Hi all..my opinion, the old desire is more smooth and faster than DZ. Is it only me, or does anyone else have the same opinion? I installed an app to monitor cpu usage. The graph indicator jumps to 100% eventhough I did not open other tasks, maybe just background processess. Can anyone share their opinion here? Thank you in advance.

This is my third HTC Sense phone now, having owned a hero, desire and now the desire Z, and I can say this is the quickest and most lag free stock rom I have ever used, by a long long way.
However if your really having issues then root and install a custom rom, VillainRomz will be out very soon which is based on stock sense and is fantastically fast.

Thanks for the reply..i owned a deesire before, and sold it to get this..but really i feel DZ is laggy compare to my old desire, even with stock rom..i bought this second hands from another person, he claimed that this is just a week old but he want to resell it to get a desire hd. Somehow i doubt if this is a genuine htc phone. This phone is "made in China". Got htc factory in china? My old desire made in Taiwan. How can i verify this? Can i use the IMEI num to check it? Any method to check the actual age of this phone? Really need help here.

I think DesireZ is the smoothiest I ever had, even compared with the lagfixed I9000.
I know there is a website which you can input IMEI and it can tell you the where does it come from. I forgot the site address but I will check and update to you later.
About your laggy DZ. I think the ex-owner has done something wrong on it. Have you ever tried to back to factory reset and see if it still lags?

manleyfu said:
I think DesireZ is the smoothiest I ever had, even compared with the lagfixed I9000.
I know there is a website which you can input IMEI and it can tell you the where does it come from. I forgot the site address but I will check and update to you later.
About your laggy DZ. I think the ex-owner has done something wrong on it. Have you ever tried to back to factory reset and see if it still lags?
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Just found the website....
http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=analysis&sub=imeinr

click2me said:
This phone is "made in China". Got htc factory in china? My old desire made in Taiwan. How can i verify this? Can i use the IMEI num to check it? Any method to check the actual age of this phone? Really need help here.
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My DZ is "Made in Taiwan".

Thanks for the reply mate, really appreciate it. i tried the link, the result came out:
Note: This IMEI number seems to be correct, but we do not have any information on this specific handset. Please add the missing information below.
Then there was boxes to fill in for the brand and phone model, and network type. but after i added the informations, then click the button "ADD", evrything just dissappear, back to the page before i inserted the IMEI num.
does this means my DZ is not genuine?
feeling down.

Mine's made in China too, and was incredibly laggy by default. I assume the difference is quite simple: is yours the Asia/Pacific model? Mine is too.
It's likely that HTC have multiple factories, and ours came from one in China. Regardless, the stock ROM on it had a whole tonne of **** I didn't want, and the phone didn't need - including Starhub TV, which was laughable.
Since flashing the Villision ROM the phone has been much, *much* better. It's no longer crashing 3+ times a day, it's no longer laggy, and all that unremoveable bloat is gone.
I suspect the hardware is fine; the default, integrated Asia/Pacific ROM is ****house however.

thanks nzfrio. its enlighting to know other ppl got the same issue. yes, mine is asia/pacific model (Singapore to be exact). So got HTC factory in china? so thats mean my DZ i genuine? if that so, its the best news i heard today. thanks mate.
so i guess the culprit is the stock rom itself. have to search for a good rom then. i will appreciate if anyone can suggest a good rom here, other than villian rom suggested by Lennyuk above. but i will give villian rom a go first.. hope this will solve my problem..

Rooted with vision overclocked at 1.3 and running real smooth. Smoother than my friends captivate
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click2me said:
thanks nzfrio. its enlighting to know other ppl got the same issue. yes, mine is asia/pacific model (Singapore to be exact). So got HTC factory in china? so thats mean my DZ i genuine? if that so, its the best news i heard today. thanks mate.
so i guess the culprit is the stock rom itself. have to search for a good rom then. i will appreciate if anyone can suggest a good rom here, other than villian rom suggested by Lennyuk above. but i will give villian rom a go first.. hope this will solve my problem..
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Mine's the Singaporean one too, so I guess we have the same model . I can't say for sure if there's an HTC factory in China, but I'd be amazed if there wasn't (especially considering they're a Chinese company - I can't post an outside link yet, but you can check Wikipedia) - why go to all the trouble of producing a replica *this* accurate, and then **** it up with an obvious label on the back ? So yeah, I'd be stunned if they were imitation phones .
The Villision ROM is pretty good; it's fast, and it's nice to use. The only thing you should be wary of is that by default, your keymap will be messed up and the capacitive keys won't work. This is due to the keymap for our phones not being in that ROM (it's based on the G2 AOSP ROM); you can flash a small update to get them working . See the thread on it in the Desire Z Development forum for more info; someone posted the update in there.
Other than that, Cyanogen will be slick when it's out I'm sure; I'm going to wait for the final release and see how easy it is on the battery before trying it out though! I'm also hoping we get a MIUI port sometime in the future.

click2me said:
thanks nzfrio. its enlighting to know other ppl got the same issue. yes, mine is asia/pacific model (Singapore to be exact). So got HTC factory in china? so thats mean my DZ i genuine? if that so, its the best news i heard today. thanks mate.
so i guess the culprit is the stock rom itself. have to search for a good rom then. i will appreciate if anyone can suggest a good rom here, other than villian rom suggested by Lennyuk above. but i will give villian rom a go first.. hope this will solve my problem..
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Though there was no laggy on my DZ with stock ROM, I have just still installed the Villian ROM 30 minutes ago and the ROM was really fine. If you are going to flash a custom ROM, I will suggest you to try this ROM first.

latest update: i can't root my DZ using visionary!!

hi..can u enlight me how u done yr rooting? i can't do it using the visionary tool..is there any method?

nzfrio said:
Mine's the Singaporean one too, so I guess we have the same model . I can't say for sure if there's an HTC factory in China, but I'd be amazed if there wasn't (especially considering they're a Chinese company - I can't post an outside link yet, but you can check Wikipedia) - why go to all the trouble of producing a replica *this* accurate, and then **** it up with an obvious label on the back ? So yeah, I'd be stunned if they were imitation phones .
The Villision ROM is pretty good; it's fast, and it's nice to use. The only thing you should be wary of is that by default, your keymap will be messed up and the capacitive keys won't work. This is due to the keymap for our phones not being in that ROM (it's based on the G2 AOSP ROM); you can flash a small update to get them working . See the thread on it in the Desire Z Development forum for more info; someone posted the update in there.
Other than that, Cyanogen will be slick when it's out I'm sure; I'm going to wait for the final release and see how easy it is on the battery before trying it out though! I'm also hoping we get a MIUI port sometime in the future.
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hi..can u enlight me how u done yr rooting? i can't do it using the visionary tool..is there any method?

nzfrio said:
Mine's the Singaporean one too, so I guess we have the same model . I can't say for sure if there's an HTC factory in China, but I'd be amazed if there wasn't (especially considering they're a Chinese company - I can't post an outside link yet, but you can check Wikipedia)
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HTC are a Taiwanese company. I think they'd be kind of upset to be called Chinese, given the relations between Taiwan and China.

click2me said:
latest update: i can't root my DZ using visionary!!
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Check the thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=851421
There's a suggestion that the latest batch of phones (e.g. Vodafone UK-branded ones, and Asian phones) have a different serial number range and perhaps have been changed somehow that makes the current permanent rooting not work (though temp root should still work).
Work is ongoing on this, so currently we don't know for sure what the details are.

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HTC are a Taiwanese company. I think they'd be kind of upset to be called Chinese, given the relations between Taiwan and China.
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So they are; my bad .
click2me said:
hi..can u enlight me how u done yr rooting? i can't do it using the visionary tool..is there any method?
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I used the RAGE method, but I would recommend caution; the phone does behave erratically while you're typing the commands in (acore crashes repeatedly) which is pretty disconcerting. Just make sure you have the latest VISIONary .

i feel my phone is considerably slower than my brother's 'normal' desire. especially scrolling through the app drawer.
Mine is made in China (so it says on the back of the box) and on that IMEI check website it says "Note: This IMEI number might to be correct, but it is impossible to get this confirmed."
ALSO i CANNOT get permanent root using rage or Visionary

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HTC are a Taiwanese company. I think they'd be kind of upset to be called Chinese, given the relations between Taiwan and China.
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I am a Hong Kongnese but immigrated to Taiwan for 15 years than came back to HK 3 years ago and currently living in Mainland China. So, you're right. Taiwan people don't usually call themselves Mainland Chinese, but will call Taiwanese. Anyway, it's a never ending political issue between these 2 countries.....
Despite of that. Can anyone in the forum recommend me a Cyanogen ROM which can use on DZ and can enlarge the font size. Everything on DZ are good except this annoying small font which I have to use a magnifier to read the contents all the time......tragedy!