I just recently purchased an x1i for what I thought was a bargain price. At half the retail, i got the phone in perfect condition and a charger. i didn't mind back then and have been using the phone on a daily basis and it works great. I never questioned why I just got the phone, seeing how adding a box and manual can't be that hard. I wanted to update my ROM to R2A today and when I took the battery out I noticed for the first time: "Prototype build:AP1" and underneath it "Prototype not for sale". So here's my question, is this a prototype and is it in anyway inferior to a retail model?
Thats why it was so cheap
Mine not say prototype....
But you should not care about that if it works well...And have no cracks
prototypes tend to have downgraded hardware than the actual retail
do you have pics of it? please show them! i'm curious to know if yours has a button on the bottom left corner.. kinda like the camera button but instead it's on the left side. iirc the prototype models had that button and one of the reviewers said it was supposed to be made for switching between landscape/portrait.
This is not supposed to be sold! I work there at Sony Ericsson, last time somebody sold a prototype version of a phone he got fired. This guy is either stupid or careless
Depends how old the prototype is then the hardware might be inferior (less ram). One advantage you have is that your phone is most likely "Security Unlocked"
Have a look at the back, what week was it produced on?
As for the person that sold it, they shouldn't have. It's not meant for resale!
I can confirm that anything above 08W25 is good
thanks
thanks for tbe info. mine says 08W26. as for the button to switch between portrait and landscape, it doesn't exist on my x1. The phone is security unlocked. I'll post some pictures up soon.
I bought a proto p990i, didnt know it was a proto. I kept it for spare parts since the firmware couldnt be updated. When I used any function besides calling someone it would lock up on me
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Quite the opposite: SE prototypes ALWAYS have the final HW inside, it's usually the initial sw that's pre-RC - which does not effect him as his most likely been upgraded to MR1 at least...
rc3ilynt said:
I just recently purchased an x1i for what I thought was a bargain price. At half the retail, i got the phone in perfect condition and a charger. i didn't mind back then and have been using the phone on a daily basis and it works great. I never questioned why I just got the phone, seeing how adding a box and manual can't be that hard. I wanted to update my ROM to R2A today and when I took the battery out I noticed for the first time: "Prototype build:AP1" and underneath it "Prototype not for sale". So here's my question, is this a prototype and is it in anyway inferior to a retail model?
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Yes, it is a final prototype for operators to test. This means that it is probably someone outside of SE that has sold it.
It is not inferior in any way, but you can probably not upgrade firmware via SE tools. And you can forget getting help at a SE service location if needed. Some operators also disables the prototype IMEI number in their net after some time, which will make it useless as a phone.
Best thing to do: Turn it in to the nearest SE Service center with details of who sold it. You might be rewarded with a retail X1.
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Yes, it is a final prototype for operators to test. This means that it is probably someone outside of SE that has sold it.
It is not inferior in any way, but you can probably not upgrade firmware via SE tools.
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False. Login to to Emma and take a look - if you have a real proto with operator test release sw then you can upgrade it, provided you have access to Emma (you're an authorized SE service center, a SE employee or anyone with Emma login.)
And you can forget getting help at a SE service location if needed.
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False again. They will help you but it won't be free as it's not covoered by warranty - but again, any used phone you buy won't have warranty or max. one year - if it was retail - anyway.
Some operators also disables the prototype IMEI number in their net after some time, which will make it useless as a phone.
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I assume you have link or some other evidence, right?
Because if you don't have I have to call it on its name: baseless rumor, pure FUD.
Best thing to do: Turn it in to the nearest SE Service center with details of who sold it. You might be rewarded with a retail X1.
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What an utter nonsense - why would ANYONE give him this entirely malicious advice to GIVE HIS PHONE AWAY, hoping that - even bigger nonsense! - someone willl GIVE HIM A NEW PHONE FOR FREE!!!
The only thing I can't decide is that whether you're truly believe in this crap or you're just another @ss retailer trying to keep up high prices of his stuff...
goldenchild7801 said:
I bought a proto p990i, didnt know it was a proto. I kept it for spare parts since the firmware couldnt be updated. When I used any function besides calling someone it would lock up on me
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It can be updated but not by you - bring it to any authorized SE retailer and ask him to log in to Emma and update it - they will probably charge you for it but it's worth the price, trust me.
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False. Login to to Emma and take a look - if you have a real proto with operator test release sw then you can upgrade it, provided you have access to Emma (you're an authorized SE service center, a SE employee or anyone with Emma login.)
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Emma ? How archaic
Of course you can fla**** with internal SE tools, but not via Update Service. And sure you can find a service center that does not bother thats it is an AP. But not an SE one.
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False again. They will help you but it won't be free as it's not covoered by warranty - but again, any used phone you buy won't have warranty or max. one year - if it was retail - anyway.
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Again, you can find service centers that does not bother since they will get cash for the job. But not on a SE Service Center.
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I assume you have link or some other evidence, right?
Because if you don't have I have to call it on its name: baseless rumor, pure FUD.
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A link ? Some operators do, others don't. Believe it or not.
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What an utter nonsense - why would ANYONE give him this entirely malicious advice to GIVE HIS PHONE AWAY, hoping that - even bigger nonsense! - someone willl GIVE HIM A NEW PHONE FOR FREE!!!
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Not someone, SE. You know the company that pays rewards for getting help tracking down users and sellers of stolen protos.
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The only thing I can't decide is that whether you're truly believe in this crap or you're just another @ss retailer trying to keep up high prices of his stuff...
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Well I don't know anything about you, but if I discover that somthing I bought was stolen goods i'd sure as hell would contact the owner.
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It can be updated but not by you - bring it to any authorized SE retailer and ask him to log in to Emma and update it - they will probably charge you for it but it's worth the price, trust me.
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I got rid of the p990i awhile ago, Im sporting an X1 now
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thanks for tbe info. mine says 08W26. as for the button to switch between portrait and landscape, it doesn't exist on my x1. The phone is security unlocked. I'll post some pictures up soon.
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My X1i is also prototype 08W25, and it doesn't have another button, also all hardware is the same as in final device. You can update rom to any in this forum without any problems, of course it also mean you can update to official R2A rom. I had about 5 X1i different prototypes, older and newer (with extra button and without, full ram 288mb and half 128mb and all can be updated to any newest rom available. But for this which have only 128mb ram I recommend R1A rom which have less ram requaiment (ie there is some problems with running some apps on R2A roms after few hours of use on 128mb ram device becouse much ram is missing then).
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Oh, and prototype devices have much better cover/housing, I have mine more then 5 months (and it wasnt new when I bought it) and it still don't have any crack on the cover!
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Emma ? How archaic
Of course you can fla**** with internal SE tools, but not via Update Service.
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It is not *internal* at all, ask first if you have no clue - any service center with SE connections has - or can have - a login.
And sure you can find a service center that does not bother thats it is an AP. But not an SE one.
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As I said, false. Once again: why don't you ask first instead of spreading stupid rumors?
Again, you can find service centers that does not bother since they will get cash for the job. But not on a SE Service Center.
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Do you actually know WTF are you talking about? SE service centers are regualr private, authorized 3rd party shops - they are the one who have logins to EMMA.
Stop talking bull when you obviously don't know much about them, please.
A link ? Some operators do, others don't. Believe it or not.
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Thanks for confirming it's obviously a stupid rumor, nothing else.
Not someone, SE.
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Never heard of anything like this - any link?
Let me guess you don't have any...
You know the company that pays rewards for getting help tracking down users and sellers of stolen protos.
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You are truly clueless: these are most likely not stolen but sales samples, pal. Another newsflash: tracking users are borderline illegal in most countries (unless you have a criminal case and police/court/law is involved.)
Well I don't know anything about you, but if I discover that somthing I bought was stolen goods i'd sure as hell would contact the owner.
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Again: why don't you ask before you post silly assumptions as facts?
FYI: almost all protos are given away and their owners are free to sell it later. (it isn't nice to sell it when it's still new, khm. )
Once retail products are out en masse most protos end up either collect dust on a shelf or end up on eBay.
I'm sure few end up being stolen but they are just like any other phone - nobody traces them down at all unless someone requests it.
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As above, Xperia X1 for sale in the UK.
As new, only a month old.
Some of the speed increase software has been installed, but will do a factory reset. It's the HTC Factory unit, so fully unlocked and brandless.
No need for me to go through the features I hope.
£400 Posted (+Paypal charges if applicable).
Only shipped to UK and no collection agencies to send to nigeria etc.
Collection prefered, Derbyshire area.
Hope this is ok here.
Thanks,
Luke.
P.S. Pictures available, PM me with your E-Mail address.
why are you selling?
are you facing any problems with it?
i already have it and it's really a great piece of art
I want to try something else tbh ...
I've wanted to try a Symbian phone for a while, so thought no time like the present tbh.
No faults at all, it's a glorious phone and good work by SE. I just get bored of things to easily.
chrcad
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Relax on the comments you leave.
I have no issues showing you what i can "sell" you.
If you don't like the thread or postings, ignore them.
Relax buddy
Thanks Mikey1022.
alien.46.uk said:
I want to try something else tbh ...
I've wanted to try a Symbian phone for a while, so thought no time like the present tbh.
No faults at all, it's a glorious phone and good work by SE. I just get bored of things to easily.
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Try an E90 out, best piece of hardware i've ever owned! It's a little large, but the keyboard is brilliant and the build quality is top-notch!
I'm sad to see it go, but it was never my phone to begin with
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As above, Xperia X1 for sale in the UK.
As new, only a month old.
Some of the speed increase software has been installed, but will do a factory reset. It's the HTC Factory unit, so fully unlocked and brandless.
No need for me to go through the features I hope.
£400 Posted (+Paypal charges if applicable).
Only shipped to UK and no collection agencies to send to nigeria etc.
Collection prefered, Derbyshire area.
Hope this is ok here.
Thanks,
Luke.
P.S. Pictures available, PM me with your E-Mail address.
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still have xperia for sale?
LOL
my experience with them is not good..
i need to change
- battery cover ( faded )
- casing ( cracks )
My camera button is crazy
Keyboard is wierd
sigh
Best of luck mate....tell me when that keyboard gets better because mine is fcked too
My spacebar is quite unresponsive, have two cracks, and my slider is wobbly as well
how long have you guys had your phones' for?
i'm just starting an 18month contract so this doesnt bode well.
anyone with an launch month x1 that is still in full working order?
GL man. SE sucks.
GL
@deepmenace
I had my phone since christmas and its working very well no cracks, no troubles
me too
ive had man just over a month and no cracks or build quality issues.
The signal is still garbage compared with my k800i and i already have the latest firmware.
back ..
they changed my battery over and the horror begins!!!
keyboard, camera button, NO STOCK
cracks in cover, will be charged around 60 usd NO WAY
i think this IS my last SE phone.. will try to jump ship to touch hd or something asap
leobox1 said:
i think this IS my last SE phone.. will try to jump ship to touch hd or something asap
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Don't forgot X1 is made by HTC...
yah but its SE service
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My spacebar is quite unresponsive, have two cracks, and my slider is wobbly as well
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Wobbly is standard and I am used to it. But the rest are unacceptable.
dadeadman, I am also Singaporean. Wanna go Service Centre or Small Claims Trbunal together? The SE support most likely won't give us much help. ALso, even if they did, the problems will come back again. I am really not fond of this crap.
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back ..
they changed my battery over and the horror begins!!!
keyboard, camera button, NO STOCK
cracks in cover, will be charged around 60 usd NO WAY
i think this IS my last SE phone.. will try to jump ship to touch hd or something asap
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Force them to give you a exchange.
Mopral said:
Don't forgot X1 is made by HTC...
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So? HTC was making the phone for SE. Anyone else think that HTC was trying to mess with Sony Ericsson? All the delays even though a prototype was available very early on? And now after the phone is launched, so many problems.
Nah, the above is just pure speculation.
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yah but its SE service
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Soon countries have better service, such as those in Europeran countries I believe.
it is so tough to find a good phone !
leobox1 said:
it is so tough to find a good phone !
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Word! I'm so fraid that my phone is going to be fcked up soon as well...
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Wobbly is standard and I am used to it. But the rest are unacceptable.
dadeadman, I am also Singaporean. Wanna go Service Centre or Small Claims Trbunal together? The SE support most likely won't give us much help. ALso, even if they did, the problems will come back again. I am really not fond of this crap.
Force them to give you a exchange.
So? HTC was making the phone for SE. Anyone else think that HTC was trying to mess with Sony Ericsson? All the delays even though a prototype was available very early on? And now after the phone is launched, so many problems.
Nah, the above is just pure speculation.
Soon countries have better service, such as those in Europeran countries I believe.
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How many times has your X1 cracked? Won't Small Claims Tribunals cause lots of hassle?
is the touch hd good btw??? anyone knows.. if not what is the best keyboard winmo?
Every phone will have its own prb
superweijie said:
dadeadman, I am also Singaporean. Wanna go Service Centre or Small Claims Trbunal together? The SE support most likely won't give us much help. ALso, even if they did, the problems will come back again. I am really not fond of this crap.
Force them to give you a exchange.
Soon countries have better service, such as those in Europeran countries I believe.
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Small Claims Tribunal!? That's a little exaggerated, right? Doubt you're gonna get anything out of this. Ain't exactly illogical of them to be claiming any exterior physical defects to be due to wear & tear. After all, not everyone who bought the phone has gone back to them to complain. We're probably just the unlucky ones (my X1's more or less ok except for the wobbly slider and paint chips on the battery cover).
As for better service in other countries, well, think it all depends. After all, the service centre here is outsourced.
ipporek, got yours fixed?
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ipporek, got yours fixed?
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Went to the service centre (both Wisma and Junction 8) a couple of times with regards to the wobbliness and always got the same answer that it is normal. As for battery cover, got it replaced once cos of a 'hump' in the middle when I first got it, but even with the new cover, I'm still getting the paint peel. Am considering buying an extra battery cover.
what? they gave u a new one and it peels again???????
I have just got off the phone with a very nice gentlemen from HTC customer services.
He informed me that Vodafone are at current flatly refusing to support the HTC HD2 handset. They have NO plans to release a firmware update for the HD2.
He has had this confirmed by his management team as he gets a number of calls on a daily basis regarding the issue.
I opened a thread on the Vodafone forums informing their customers and am doing the same here on XDA: http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=49175
Feel free to comment in either thread.
*edit* update for those that would like to help: contact [email protected] with the subject line "Vodafone UK and the HTC HD2" explaining your own frustrations.
link to my open letter: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5429219&postcount=41
LATEST UPDATE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5472361&postcount=75
Wow, that sucks. Is this because of the iphone launch?
Apple is meddling in isn't it?
Fooking unts..!!! so VF have just been giving us BS all this time.!!!! i can promise that if this is true i will NEVER go with Vodafone agian..!!!
That's pretty shocking really. I wonder if this constitutes some sort of breach of contract that you could use to get out of your contract without having to pay it out? If not then it should.
It was almost certain from the start.
What is a big deal anyway? Just get a goldcard/SSPL/HSPL and flash any ROM you want.
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It was almost certain from the start.
What is a big deal anyway? Just get a goldcard/SSPL/HSPL and flash any ROM you want.
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cus it breaks the warranty
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Wow, that sucks. Is this because of the iphone launch?
Apple is meddling in isn't it?
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Indeed, apparently they said VF had to drop the HD2 to get the iPhone...
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It was almost certain from the start.
What is a big deal anyway? Just get a goldcard/SSPL/HSPL and flash any ROM you want.
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The issue lies with warranty and insurance! Quite a large issue if you are a Vodafone customer.
It shouldnt matter whether or not they are actually stocking the device any longer. After having the HD2 on their books for only two months and it being a new device to market, they must continue to support any firmware updates/fixes for the duration of the contracts of all their customers that have an HD2. This is surely a given?!
If they supply you with hardware that is necessary to use the services they also provide to you then it must be legally binding that they support any fixes (ie firmware updates) for the hardware supplied to ensure that it functions as the manufacturer intended.
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cus it breaks the warranty
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How? You can always revert to the 'original version' and if device is so badly broken that you can't revert, HTC staff wouldn't be able to check ROM version as well.
Besides, if there is some clear hardware problem with your device (like broken button or speaker, screen not responding etc) I don't think HTC service is going to complain about ROM version, this would be just idiotic.. Has anyone any experience with HTC service and non-official ROMS? Frankly I don't think HTC cares, software modding is the whole point of getting HTC device in the first place for many, many people. I am also sure they are aware that many operators provide atrocious support for new ROMs and customers don't have any options.
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The issue lies with warranty and insurance! Quite a large issue if you are a Vodafone customer.
It shouldnt matter whether or not they are actually stocking the device any longer. After having the HD2 on their books for only two months and it being a new device to market, they must continue to support any firmware updates/fixes for the duration of the contracts of all their customers that have an HD2. This is surely a given?!
If they supply you with hardware that is necessary to use the services they also provide to you then it must be legally binding that they support any fixes (ie firmware updates) for the hardware supplied to ensure that it functions as the manufacturer intended.
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Thats sounds like it should be, can we get out of our contracts though???
i dont want them to offer a **** iphone 3gs, thats for sure! 4G maybe, but thats not out till may/june..
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How? You can always revert to the 'original version' and if device is so badly broken that you can't revert, HTC staff wouldn't be able to check ROM version as well.
Besides, if there is some clear hardware problem with your device (like broken button or speaker, screen not responding etc) I don't think HTC service is going to complain about ROM version, this would be just idiotic.. Has anyone any experience with HTC service and non-official ROMS? Frankly I don't think HTC cares, software modding is the whole point of getting HTC device in the first place for many, many people. I am also sure they are aware that many operators provide atrocious support for new ROMs..
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Speak to Vofdafone..!
Why don't all the vodafone customers make a letter of protest and send it to them? I know it won't do much (because i'm sure apple is paying vodafone), but you can try.
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Why don't all the vodafone customers make a letter of protest and send it to them? I know it won't do much (because i'm sure apple is paying vodafone), but you can try.
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Actually there could be enough of us to get on BBC watchdog..!!
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Speak to Vofdafone..!
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Vodafone has nothing do to with this, it is HTC who services/fixes these devices. Vodafone may say many things, but ultimately phone goes to HTC service for repair and this whole 'custom ROM voids warranty' babbling is completely up to them.
Again - it would be just idiotic if HTC refused to fix obvious hardware problem because of 'custom ROM'.
It is like getting PC from DELL with Win XP preinstalled, then installing Linux on it and when i.e motherboard of disk fails, claiming warranty from Dell - nothing wrong with it.
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Vodafone has nothing do to with this, it is HTC who services/fixes these devices. Vodafone may say many things, but ultimately phone goes to HTC service for repair and this whole 'custom ROM voids warranty' babbling is completely up to them.
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really, who told you that???
Heres the watchdog link. at the very least, even the threat of going to watchdog should get things moving..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/
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Vodafone has nothing do to with this, it is HTC who services/fixes these devices. Vodafone may say many things, but ultimately phone goes to HTC service for repair
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This is true... the phone WILL go to HTC for repair. But that is not the issue. It is an entirely seperate issue that is somehow intertwined. Its all a bit of a mess really.
As a Vodafone customer for more then ten years from both consumer and business side i have never seen such a debacle.
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Vodafone has nothing do to with this, it is HTC who services/fixes these devices. Vodafone may say many things, but ultimately phone goes to HTC service for repair and this whole 'custom ROM voids warranty' babbling is completely up to them.
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When you take out a contract with Vodafone they supply you with a phone that has a vodafone ROM on it. That's basically a stock ROM with some changes, either cosmetic, programmatic, or both. They are then perfectly within their rights to tell you that you will void the warrantly if you modify that ROM or replace it with someone else's. It's like getting a car under warranty and expecting to get it fixed for free, even though you've put a new engine in it.
It has NOTHING to do with HTC. This is part of your agreement with Vodafone.
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When you take out a contract with Vodafone they supply you with a phone that has a vodafone ROM on it. That's basically a stock ROM with some changes, either cosmetic, programmatic, or both. They are then perfectly within their rights to tell you that you will void the warrantly if you modify that ROM or replace it with someone else's. It's like getting a car under warranty and expecting to get it fixed for free, even though you've put a new engine in it.
It has NOTHING to do with HTC. This is part of your agreement with Vodafone.
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Correct, one size does not fit all. All opperators customise the ROM to suit their needs. Installing a generic ROM from HTC on Vodafone or any other operator for that matter would not only void the warranty but would cause all manner of problems for the support department of each operator. Can you imagine how many customers would brick their device trying to upgrade? Even the most simple of instructions are not often followed correctly.
The Vodafone forum moderators now review all my posts before they display them!! All cus i posted a watchdog link!!
Hi all,
I recently bought a samsung focus through ebay but the phone was stuck in demo mode and I wanted to get rid of the demo.
What I have done is: I flashed the phone with the XENJK1 rom for omnia 7.
now the phone works perfect except these problems:
"down" volume button increases the volume instead of decreasing it.
"up" volume button does not do anything at all.
back button sometimes does not work
start button is not working at all
the accelerometer orientation of the screen is opposite than it should be!
any one got any idea how to fix these?! please!
Sounds very much like flashing i9000 Galaxy ROM to AT&T Captivate.The hardware of these two phones are slightlydifferent. There is no way unless you can hack the ROM to fix those issues. On Captivate (Android), ppl needs to mod the ROM (called re-orientation) before apply to the phone. Hope you're good at modding WP7 ROMs.
I have no experience in hacking wp7 roms but I will give it a shot if you could tell me what tools I need for it.
I don't know how to either. I don't believe anyone knows how to (check the Focus Dev forum and you will see). So, basically means you're SOL.
FYI: demo mode = stolen AT&T display phone.
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FYI: demo mode = stolen AT&T display phone.
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Many people spent $200 at least to get demo mode focus but had no idea of demo mode. Don't tell me they should return their phone to AT&T.
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Many people spent $200 at least to get demo mode focus but had no idea of demo mode. Don't tell me they should return their phone to AT&T.
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yes and that was their stupidity.... ebay... id returned it and gave the seller horrible feedback plus reported it to ebay as stolen... craigslist...their stupidity of not making a call with it before you bought it period..... and as for they should return it... well if it ever by chance got caught by at&t...they could and i guarantee would prosecute... it is stolen property... im no goody goody but i wouldnt chance my reputation over a freakin cell phone... i mean if someone stole your phone wouldnt you want it back? someone walks through my door and says i found this or i got this from someone and saw your info in it ...id give them the benefit... if i found it in someone's posession and it was mine...im prosecuting to the fullest extent... plus this is federal... its a fcc licensed device.... so stupidity is no excuse for keeping something you either knew when you bought it was stolen or just found out and said well i paid 200 for it its mine... sorry its the property of at&t... hope you go to jail... over a cell phone.. that would be embarrassing...
ps who knows at&t might give you a reward...
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Many people spent $200 at least to get demo mode focus but had no idea of demo mode. Don't tell me they should return their phone to AT&T.
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In many places, buying a stolen good is illegal as well. I have no sympathy for those who purchase stolen goods, knowingly or not.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
I am returning the phone and already opened a case on ebay. Hope there will be no problem because I installed an other rom to the phone in order to try and get it work properly. I haven't realised that it was stolen obviously since now! I also requested a full refund. any other suggestions what I should do?
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I am returning the phone and already opened a case on ebay. Hope there will be no problem because I installed an other rom to the phone in order to try and get it work properly. I haven't realised that it was stolen obviously since now! I also requested a full refund. any other suggestions what I should do?
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yeah..thats the best way to solve the problem.
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yeah..thats the best way to solve the problem.
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then what is your solution... your best way????
Stolen phone
You guys totally went off track on what the op was asking and gave him no useful advice, he didn't ask for your sympathy, he asked about what to do. The commentor about I hope you get prosecuted blah blah blah, you have no clue about law and it is not a federal offense because it is FCC approved, car radios, iPods and all electronics that have radios or receive signals are FCC approved and are not federal offenses if you are in possession of them if they are stolen, go back to law school. In regards to editing the rom, good luck at this point wait for the update and flash with Odin. Now that's a Canadian answer some advice on his question, not some ignorant American answer about guns, laws and whatever else you guys could throw in.
I like the guys anamocity towards anyone talking about the demo mode phones. I buy and flip phones on ebay and craigslist, have gotten demo mode phones before, and am offended that you would go so far as to insult anyone for making the mistake of buying one. You do not have to flame to express your strict opinion of the law and what one should do with something they spent lots of money on. Just my two cents kawgi.
What a gem!
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Now that's a Canadian answer some advice on his question, not some ignorant American answer about guns, laws and whatever else you guys could throw in.
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Wow. Canadian, huh?
Priceless...
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any one got any idea how to fix these?! please!
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Does the Zune software see your device as a Focus or Omnia 7? If there's a registry key that identifies your device that can be changed, you might be able to get the next Focus ROM flashed on your phone through the update process.
At least your phone works. That's a far better situation than most people conned into buying demo phones.
zune recognise it as OMNIA 7 unfortunately.. and I don't have the required software knowledge to mess into the registry so I have the phone dusting in my office..
Worth trying
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zune recognise it as OMNIA 7 unfortunately.. and I don't have the required software knowledge to mess into the registry so I have the phone dusting in my office..
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Actually, it may be a good thing.
It might be worth trying to find a reg key that can be changed to identify your device to Zune as a Focus. Assuming the Nodo update is a complete flash followed by a sync (which I believe it is, though, I'm not certain) you may be able to get the Nodo update for the Focus.
Probably a long shot, but not too much work and nothing to lose?
I will give it a try then.. but I doubt that the nodo update is a complete flash so even if I manage to make zune recognise my phone as a Focus (still no idea how to do that) it won't do a thing..
This is funny as hell, I suppose you guys have never used a copy of Microsoft Windows as well, right? some friend gave it to you (maybe even a relative), Gosh I sure hope you ratted on your sister for that copy of Windows!
This is the problem with America today, its turning into a society of rats! You cant even have cheats on console games anymore , you can have achievements ,whoopty do , not the same thing , I suppose if you open the xbox ,the FBI will be searching for you! Yes this topic got way off base!
Good luck finding a rom for your phone!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982626
That would be why folks are coming down on this thread about using a Focus that was in "DEMO" mode.
I am no expert at phone hacks and such, but it seems completely logical that you could perform some things in diagnostic mode + registry changes to fix all of these problems. Just dig to find and learn how to do these and i believe you can do it.
Too much for too little?
Or, a good training partner updating from Motorola Motoactv?
This review says it's a reskinned Android 4.1.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/19/adidas-micoach-smart-run-review/
Upside: heart rate monitor included.
Downside: only 3gb of free space.
i'd call 400$ a downside too...
JarlSX said:
i'd call 400$ a downside too...
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AHAHAH 400$ :=0
i already think i was crazy when i bought motoactv for 200, now i dont regret it but, 400 its almost the price of a great phone,
do the Adidas micoach take coffes or do your bed in the morning?
otherwise....
crazy price. who will buy this?
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AHAHAH 400$ :=0
i already think i was crazy when i bought motoactv for 200, now i dont regret it but, 400 its almost the price of a great phone,
do the Adidas micoach take coffes or do your bed in the morning?
otherwise....
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Can it be rooted
no dev to expect? ill check mine out.
That article is from two years ago.
i heared, there will be a next gen this fall. But im interessted, so maybe ill give it private a try... as soon as i get in stuff!
Did anyone find a jailbreak or a Windows driver to get access to the watch. Support will be closed very soon, seems to be there is no possibility to download GPX tracks from the watch directly.
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Did anyone find a jailbreak or a Windows driver to get access to the watch. Support will be closed very soon, seems to be there is no possibility to download GPX tracks from the watch directly.
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Hi forandy, any new about the acess to Smart Run?
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Did anyone find a jailbreak or a Windows driver to get access to the watch. Support will be closed very soon, seems to be there is no possibility to download GPX tracks from the watch directly.
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Also want to know!
I've been talking to Adidas, and they say that my warranty has void, so they cannot do anything about it!!! So annoying...
I threatened them about writing all over the internet the good service they provide! Anybody can help me out? Sites, places to talk real bad about this issue?
It is a shame that a super brand like Adidas don't ensure the usability of their own and expensive products, don't you guys agree?
sorry for the revival - any one know how to bypass the activation on these devices ? had my device reset and now cannot activate - since unable to get token /login...FFS!! So for folks that are still using this - don't reset device or else you'll have a nice paper weight.
haven't found anyway to put the device in debugging mode to maybe at least bypass activation so I can just use the core features (mp3/gps/HRM).
if you remove the rear cover - there is pads for UART/SPI not to sure at this stage - will have to do some digging...
Flash CHIP (4GB) is SAMSUNG KLM4G1YE4C-B001.
Just to keep everybody informed!
After many, many, but many complains on Adidas, and with the good help of the resolver . com, i got my money back after sending the watch to Germany.
The only bad thing was that had to wait for 2 months after they got the watch there, but...
Bastards
Stopping the support before the announced date - thats disgusting!
Never will buy Adidas products again!
I've used mine for several years and now its not the question of money! Still use them as HRM monitor, hoping to find the solution to download other info some day!
Crake said:
Just to keep everybody informed!
After many, many, but many complains on Adidas, and with the good help of the resolver . com, i got my money back after sending the watch to Germany.
The only bad thing was that had to wait for 2 months after they got the watch there, but...
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Could you please provide more details on how you got your money back? I was just talking to the support today and they told me to speak with Runtastic (why ever, since I doubt that they took over the software development for the watch).
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Could you please provide more details on how you got your money back? I was just talking to the support today and they told me to speak with Runtastic (why ever, since I doubt that they took over the software development for the watch).
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Yeah, they also told me that, but i fought against that argument because i bought it on Adidas (had a proof of that with me) and not on Runtastic, whatever that companies sells, so my complaint was against Adidas.
Also opened a case on Resolver.co.uk, which did help.
And threatened them al the time to spread the news about this nasty behaviour of Adidas All Over the Internet!
Much efforts, but they did compensate at the end.
Hope this can help you
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Yeah, they also told me that, but i fought against that argument because i bought it on Adidas (had a proof of that with me) and not on Runtastic, whatever that companies sells, so my complaint was against Adidas.
Also opened a case on Resolver.co.uk, which did help.
And threatened them al the time to spread the news about this nasty behaviour of Adidas All Over the Internet!
Much efforts, but they did compensate at the end.
Hope this can help you
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Thanks a lot for sharing. Spoke with the support a few days ago - they told me, they cannot give me an answer right away but want to come back to me via mail. Still waiting for that to happen...
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Thanks a lot for sharing. Spoke with the support a few days ago - they told me, they cannot give me an answer right away but want to come back to me via mail. Still waiting for that to happen...
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Ok, then i wish you luck my friend, and a tots of patience.
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Ok, then i wish you luck my friend, and a tots of patience.
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Thanks a lot - guess that's the only thing I can do right now.
From a technical point of view I'm still wondering, why they didn't publish a possibility, to let the issue get fixed by the community (of course I'd expect a company like Adidas to fix it by themselves, but that oviously didn't happen). I'd assume that they change shouldn't be that big, since only the upload target has to be changed - or am I mistaken? And even in the case, that they don't want to publish any details on the watch OS or the app running ontop, it should have been possible to just create a website that accepts MiCoach logins that are trying to publish acitivites and just forward them to the Runtastic site.
Either approch would be better than just pissing off all the people who payed a lot of money for the watch.
Still noone found a possbility to download GPX (or any different format) files? Think this is the only thing which is missing to run standalone ... meanwhile I've many unsynced runs on my(our) watch(es).